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K: This does not stop ABM but just stops going beyond what we have.
P: I know, just limits where it is.
negotiate on command.
K: Command. We have not and should not. They will yield on that.
P: On the freeze thing.
K: We are working that out now Mr. President. We do not need a full
position at this moment.
P: Sell something to Smith SO that he won't say anything and will buy
this. What objections would he or Rogers raise?
K: I don't think we would have any problems in substance with Smith.
ONly ego. Nitze will raise that there should be no distinction between
ABM and IBM. He thinks they should be the same degree of formality.
One is agreement and the other is understanding.
P: Not in the public statement though.
K: No. The only difference is one will go to the Senate. It does not
worry me. ABM goes to the Senate and IBM will not.
P: Smith would not argue for that?
K: On substnace I can see no problem at all. I don't know if they will
want to fly speck it. Could conceivably find a problem with discuss and
agree.
P: That is not in the public announcement. I am not going to show the
letter to Rogers. I am only going to show him the announcement.
K: But Mr. President, I think you will have to show Secretary Rogers
the letter. At least you must tell them that there is a letter or they
will think we are running on the vagueness of Vienna. You do not have to
show them the letter. I will show it to Smith and get it to Rogers.
P: Letter from them to us and us to them?
K: Yes.
P: OK. Do we have the January proposal or was that oral? I do want to
have something to show him that we sent in January.
K: It was oral.
P: Well that's all right. I could say here is the message I sent them
in January.
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