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TELCON Packard/Kissinger 8/12/71 10:03 a. m. K: That was some set of presentations the other day. I will be damned if the Preaident had askedth e AF what they wanted I wouldn't have know on what issue. P: We will put that in context but that Navy K: That was so crooked. It wasn't fair to the other chiefs. P: It wasn't and we will have to work it out. I have just talked with Anaconda Co on Chile. They can't get anywhere with State. I was wondering if you could see them. Mr. Place and Mr. Quigley. K: Have their officexadxx call Coleman Hicks, my assistant. P: A time at your convenience. They will come down at your convenience. Six Within the next week or SO. Things moving fast. A deadline of 90 days on expropriation. Ambassador is a lame duck. It's a mess. K: As long as I have you on the phone, what the President would like to do is on the Defense budget he will not make a decision tomorrow. He would like you, Shultz and I to get together next week and tell you what he wants in capabilities and you work it out. If army can get two divisions out of 500 million and if they are important if we can get more divisions by other things. P: The air sorties level to the requirements. On presentation, yesterday Mel and I talked and he thinks he should make the presentation tomorrow. Broader strokes then I outlines to you. If you and George and I could get together after that. We can lower figures after force level. Budget scrub and shifting we can do from first of year to ? ? ? ? ? . We ought to come out at the level XXX we start from in terms of planning for (about) 79.6. Get it below. Not 75 but perhpas 77. K: I think the President will go along with 79. 6. With George has of 2 billion he can move from one year to the other. P: Where we should come out in terms of force levels or 79. 6 or 80 or 81. Make adjustments with 79. 6. K: OK. Let's get together on Tuesday. P: I will have Mr. Place call Hicks for an appoitnment.

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