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TELECON Secretary Laird/Mr. Kissinger 12:15 p. m., August 12, 1971 L: Something came up over here. I haven't cut in all the people at State -- Sullivan hasn't been briefed as far as the logistics build-up in Vietnam. Dave was in the WSAG meeting the other day and didn't think he should point out we were transferring the A-1's by September. K: You can't do that. That was not to be done! L: The President's order that I received said transfer those aircraft pr ogrammed by 1972. K: It was not the intention to take them away from Laos. L: You are sure of that? K: I am positive, but I will check. L: These are in Thailand. K: I am positive this was not his intention. L: I interpreted it. but it needs no interpretation that all those planned for delivery to South Vietnam K: I am sure the President didn't focus on this. He meant equipment in Vietnam. L: Only equipment in Vietnam? We are transferring a lot of stuff from the U. S. K: That's all right -- but not from Laos. L: I have 22 ships loading. But Dave felt he shouldn't discuss it with the WSAG group. K: That was good of Dave, but I am sure he didn't mean taking away from Laos. You had better cancel that part of it. L: We better get to the Vietnamese. I think we should sit down and go over the logistics movements I am making. K: We better do that. Let me get back to you this afternoon. lds

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