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Mr. Kissinger/McGeorge Bundy
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12:12 p.m., August 13, 1971
K:
I have come to the same conclusion. I was talking to the
President this morning about it but not that concretely. One maddening
thing is the pro-Indians in the State Department won't let us do a
God-damn thing -- they are fighting a guerrilla war even on relief.
They don't know the best way to help the Indians is to stop the refugee
flow.
B:
It has to be equally energetic on both dides and it has to be
through U Thant in the sense that they would be UN teams. In order
to raise hundreds of millions of dollars
Nobody with the skill in
Washington has the time -- the Secretary of State can't make the
phone calls, and you certainly don't have the time. It has to be
a guy for a 24-hour-a-day job.
K:
Have you thought of anyone?
B:
Franklin Murphy -- to the President he is well-known. He
could leave the LA TIMES job for two or three months.
K:
He talks incessantly.
B:
Cy Vance could do it, but I don't think the President would like
that. Jim Perkins could do it.
K:
That is a good idea. It would be good to rehabilitate him and
he deserves rehabilitation. I like Franklin Murphy also as an idea.
He is well thought of by the President, but he is a trial with his talking
and he's time-consuming. But we must do something.
B:
Another guy the President knows is William Eberley.
K:
We know him and think well of him.
B:
It has to be a sufficiently deep executive team.
K:
This has been tremendously helpful. I had come to the same
conclusion but really to the negative side of the conclusion. But if
you pick somebody like Eberley who has no past.
or even Roy Ash.
B:
Right -- who has no record.
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