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Mr. Ruckelshaus
8/23/71 11:55 a. m.
R: I'm calling about your employee, Mr. Sansom. I understand you
have been alerted to our interest.
K: What does that mean, "alerted to our interest?"
R: We made contact with him, specifically with the recommendation
of George Shultz because we need that kind of
K: I don't give a damn what he recommends. He's got no right to
recommend members of my staff.
R: No, he recommended we fill this kind of position on our staff,
not your man specifically.
K: What are you trying to tell me?
R: That we are very interested in him. We have talked to him about
this opening and the need for filling it in this agency. There is a very great
need
K: There's a great need on my staff too.
R: I understand that.
K: Well, look, if you have already done it there is nothing I can do,
but if you think I'm going to approve it you're wrong. The thing to dd is
to come to me first, not after it is done. I woundn'tdream of making a
suggestion of somebody on someone else's staff., without first talking to
the head of that agency.
R: I apologize for that. It first came to my attention when I was told
that it had been done by a member of my staff. If there is anyone to blame
it's my staff not him. But you have heard about it from him?
K: He hasn't talked to me.
R: I understood you were aware of it.
K: I am not.
R: You were not told by his immediate superior?
K: No I was not.
R: I was told that you were.
K: We can debate that for a while.
Okay, fine, I appreciate your
telling me, but I do not approve of it.
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