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TELCON Johnson/Kissinger morning 9/8/71 J: On the NSDM, the textile business is confused. I spoke with the Secy. this morning. Dave Kennedy is on his way to Williamsburg to talk to -- K: I tried to turn it off. J: What's your understanding of where you stand? K: The President will talk with Fukudo about it. See what can be arranged. We will tell them it's a serious problem and we might have to do some unilateral steps. J: That's what it says in here. If the NSDM comes out it's addressed to everybody. Stans and Kennedy talking from this. K: I will put out a memo that except for Dave Kennedy's discussion today, the textile issue will be discussed by no one except the Secy. J: That's fine. What will Kennedy do? K: Peterson tried to IXIX turn it off. Fukuda requested the meeting as an old associate. And Kennedy only plans to say ? ? ? . I will see Ushiba this afternoon at his urgent request and I will call you. J: What is his reading of what Fukuda plans to bring up with the President? K: Shall I try that? J: Why don't you? K: Who will put together the Japanese side? Fukuda alone? J: He asked for Fukuda without cabinet colleagues. Whether Ushiba, I don't know. K: I recommended that you, Bill and I represent our side. Do you think that's too heavy? J: Let's see what Ushiba says of Fukuda's desires. Not necessarily. K: I think the Secy. should sit in. J: Only question of whether I should be there. In some ways I would like to be. K: You decide. You are invited. Whatever your judgment of the situation is.

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