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    "ocrText": "Telcon\nGeo. Shultz\nDec. 18, 1971; 9:10 a. m.\nK: I'm on my way to a funeral. Can we get together Tuesday or\nWednesday morning?\nS: That's lawfully late for us.\nK: I realize that. I have had the Indian-Pak thing to run with an absent\nPresident and public relations upset in the White House. I am not upset\nwith you George. I am working a 15-hour day.\nover into\nS: Our problem is we need to get a decision from you/mx the Defense\nDepartment so that we can work effectively with them on the basis of\nan understanding of what the overall total was going to be.\nK: Laird said he would hold off until we know and he wouldn't do anything\nuntil then. The issue isn't between you and me. Laird now says if\n78.5 he will want the Chiefs to appeal to the President. The President\nwill not overrule the Chiefs. The President wants at least 79 billion.\nHe is going to talk to you to put the rap on me. I was willing to go\nwith the 78. 5. Laird says 200 million he wants. I think it is good to\nshow the Russians.\nS: This was included in our estimates.\nK: He will pull forces out if we don't give it to him. The only problem\nI will guarantee the President will settle for 79.5 or 79. He will dance\naround and try to stick me with giving you the bad news about pretending\nI am the guy who wants it. But I haven't got time for these games now\nbut if you want to know the real situation, that is the situation.\nS: We are in an impossible situation with the public because the more\nmoney that is spent on things of no use, subh as the F-111 or this new\nmethod of buying 747's. I sent you a note with the facts on those things\nthe less money there is for anything X else. We just have to make\nsome decisions on these things. Ehrlichman has his research initiatives\nthat will just go by the boards.\nK: Will the $500 million make that much difference?\nS: Yes. We have already squeezed out of the budget all of the President's\nenacted domestic issues.\nK: I was content to go along with 78.5. I can't tell you we have just\ndiscovered great strategic needs. think in terms of foreign policy it\nalways helps to have somewhat more in defense, but I have to tell you\nthe President's motives are entirely political in this. He doesn't want"
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