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Rowland Evans/Kissinger
9:50 a. m.
12/18/71
K: I was sorry I couldn't have breakfast. I have to go to a funeral this morning.
And I don't talk with columnists who write as you do about our domestic policy.
E: Stablized on West?
K: I think SO if everyone will stay shut up.
E: What I would like to do sometime is how much involvement of the Soviets.
Help in reconnaissance. How much in Indian operation. That except for the
Soviets there would have been a political settlement.
K: If the Soviets acted as we there would have been no war. Soviets made a
treaty that obligated them in case of war to keep XIXX other countries out of
war. Holding the ring (? ). At no stage despite repeated requests from us
did they XIX undertake measures to restrain India. When the outbreak
E: Did we ask them hard?
K: Repeatedly. Here and in Moscow. President even raised it with Gromyko.
We didn't threaten but didn't want a consultation.
E: What did you get 8 from Gromyko?
K: Power of restraint but we are convinced that they were only using formal
words.
E: What's this show of detente?
K: Once it started they
Chinese and other countries that might give
arms. But in last txxxx week they weee helpful. But should an arsonist be
given credit for calling the fire dept. ?
E: What does this show about your policy?
K: It shows it's brilliant, as usual. Seriously, in the Soviet Union there's two
strands.
? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Always in conflict. They don't create xiatxx
situation in South Asia, it was there. They took maximum advantage. It
indicates hazard of govt. whose basic instincts are aggressive and who slides
into major crises and wants a
on national basis. But helpful in
ending it to preserve the detente.
E: That's why they did it. Did you see Scotty yesterday?
K: It was one of his best pieces.
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