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Page 2 TELCON HAK: An Loc looks 50/50 and Hue hasn't reallystarted yet. DK: Do you expect it to before you go off to Moscow? HAK Around that time, yes. DK: And the outlook is still as you indicated last week. - - some uncertainity HAK: Yes, but I think the whole ball game is different now. Because of the action the President took. You know the nature of panic in SVN is much less. They have to consider much more what they will do DK: And whatever the President's motive was, seems to be working. HAK: Yeh, but we don't usually move without careful preparation in foreign policy. Yes. It seems to be working. DK: They seem to be taking it HAK: I wouldn't put it that way-ethat is in the neutral interest. new DK: Are the alternate supply routes going to thex very effective (inaudible) HAK: There are going to be alternate supply the first decision everyone has to make is whether they are going to crank up a tremendous new effort. If there is some alternative open to them. That is the first decision. Because the alternative route couldn't even begin to operating for two months. That is a big decision. And then our judgment is that they be as effective as the present one. Two million tons came in through Haiphong--300, came on the railways. Now I don't care how you calculate theoretical capacity, that is a tremendous amount of stuff to re-route. DK: 2 million a year? That would be mostly petroleum wouldn't it HAK: No about 1/3 petroleum; secondly we are knocking down these bridges. Thirdly, even when we were bombing Haiphong, they made no effort to re-route it in previous Administration, although then they W&X were a little less dependent on this stuff. But of course they can make it up to some extent, but it depends if it is really in the Soviet and Chinese interest to keep this war going at all costs.

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