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TELCON Secretary Peterson/Mr. Kissinger 9:14 a. m., November 29, 1972 K: Are you in the car? P: No, I'm at home, Henry. K: Oh, you're at home. P: Right. K: I see. Pete, I was thinking that on your problem somebody who knows really how that NATO works is Bob Ellsworth, who is at Lazar (sp?) Brothers. P: Yeah, I have talked to Bob, Henry. But I didn't tell him about the job. I just asked him what he thought -- K: But, for example, the things that concern Sally. P: Yeah. K: I mean, he knows what the house is like. P: Yeah. Okay. That's a good thought. K: And what the town is like. a. P: Yeah. K: And also he was in an analogous position in the sense that he moved from Washington to Brussels. P: Yeah. Right. K: And I've found him to be a fairly reliable guy. P: Well, I think his point of view was that it depends entirely on the relationship with you, you know. K: Yeah P: Because the State row can get very, very frustrating he said. K: Oh, no question. Well, you know your relationship with me.