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Telcon - San Clemente April 6, 1973 - Tom Jarrel-HAK 10:08 a. m. Jarrel: Good morning Henry. HAK: How are you Tom? Jarrel: Just fine. I'm calling trying to assess some information we have and frankly mainly looking for background and not for a news story. We have a correspondent in Cambodia who has fairly good and friendly contacts with them, people close to the North Vietnamese there. HAK: Are there North Vietnamese in Cambodia? I mean in Phnom Penh. or you mean North Vietnamese in the countryside. Jarrel: I'm not sure where he is in touch with them. All I know is he is based in Cambodia and had some pretty good contacts with them in the past. He is telling our people in New York that they are telling him XXXX the report he has is that the Pathet Lao,xxx because they simply did not have facilities. HAK: Now are you talking about Cambodia or about Laos. Jarrel: I'm talking about Laes. This fellow is based in and reporting from Cambodia. These are North Vietnamese contaats that he has and I'm not sure where he has them. He has relayed information to New York that the Pathet Lao in Laos did not have adequate facilities or even just rudimentary facilities for keeping prisoners. And as a matter of course over a kxxxgxexxx long period of time as prisoners would be captured in Laos, they would hold them for a few days, and then because of their transitory nature and the lack of ability to keep them as prisoners, they sort of systematically executed, he is saying several hundred. He doesn't have afigure on it. But not as a matter of genocide or a matter of but out of expediency. HAK: Well, I don't know how to answer this. There is an extraordinary disporportion between the number that is missing and the number they claim to have as prisoners. And if the percentage were anything like what it is in, what it turned out to be in North and even in South Vietnam, it should be closer to one hundred rather than the nine they claim they have. And SO all I can say is that it has a certain amount of plausibility. In fact, we have pictures that they themselves released of people that they captured who

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