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Ambassador Dobrynin - 4:45 p.m, May 1, 1973
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D:
Simultaneously?
K:
Yes. Simultaneous through the device of an non-circumvention
clause.
D:
Yes, I understand. But without the instruction who is first, who
is second.
K:
That's right.
D:
But does it mean that you will insist on the first one? Because up
till now you were always insisting on a first on, so?
K:
Well, this is a slight change in our position.
D:
Huh?
K:
This is an improvement in our position.
D:
So result is just leaving it open, SO to speak? But you are not
insisting anymore to be the first?
K:
That's right.
D:
Am I correct if I explain to Gromyko this way?
K:
That is correct.
D:
Yes. Then there is no specific emphasize because before it was.
K:
Right. But by means of the circumvention clause.
D:
Well, this means by means that this will be discussed too. By
means of circumstance, I agree with you. But still when you
discuss by means, you discuss what the means are really too.
So all the problems about the second part of the phrase
K:
Well, we are willing to accept the phrase as it is.
D:
Yeah.
K:
Minus -- And substitute "types of strategic offensive arms" for
other nuclear delivery systems. 11
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