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OCR Page 1 of 92TELCON - Henry A. Kissinger Robert McNamara
September 14, 1973
K: Hello.
McN: Hello, Henry.
K: Bob, I had a note from Moynihan, now he doesn't want to do it.
McN: Well he is right here, I told him, he is listening in. I told him that in his
interest, your interest, and the country1s interest he just had to reconsider
and he had to do it.
K: That is what I think. Becuase most of his arguments are xxxxi ridiculous
except that of his family,
McN: Well he said he will call his wife and talk to her.
K: You know the fact that the president wants him to stay, the President doesn't
know what I have in mind.
McN: Yeah.
K: And between him and me we are both going to do things which the President
will regret. That is why I want him X back here.
Mcn: Yeah, I very much agree, Henry and I told him that, and I don't want to
speak for him. He is listening now and he listens and I think kt he will
reconsider.
K: H is going to give me more trouble than all of the other Assistant secretaries
puf together. [Laughter on both ends] And that is why I want him.
MCN; I agree Henry.
K: I need a few men with inspiration and faith.
McN; It builds up toward that critical mass. I toddold him it wasn't thatx just
Latin America it was the whole question of foreign policy State Department
really in the sense the government. And you just got to get a critical national
state to make this thing move forward.
K; And also that is with right and to show to the Latins that we have a man of
inspiration and to who show to our people that the dedicated people are
willing to make X sacrifices as they did in the exaction early Kennedy period.
McN; And that is what I meant by the
He contributes far beyond Latin
America. It is that latter point that is going to help you get others and help
the government get others and attract others.