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K:
I think that would be excellent.
J:
You see what I mean?
K:
Yeah.
J:
And a few other friendly guys around the world.
K:
I think you should do that.
J:
You see, frankly, I wouldn't mind if the French, either through Pompidou
or the Foreign Minister, made even an adverse comment because I think
it livens the thing up.
K:
Yeah, but they won't dare defuse it.
J:
I don't think so but nonetheless it was Pompidou who gave me the guy
who is on the Committee. He did it himself.
K:
You know I talked to him. about it.
J:
I know you did, that's what I say what I do. And this fellow turned out
to join in the report, though he'll have some reservations he did join
the rest of us.
K:
Well, I look forward -- No, you stick to that and I would support it.
J :
Well, why don't you look it over. You may find that this is a very
good handle for you in everything you want to do.
K:
Let me read the whole text of it.
J:
Now the important thing I would like to leave with you though is that many
of the things that are in the report were decided on very close votes
with the following line-up: France, Norway, Netherlands, Italy versus
the U.K., Canada and the U.S. where it was adverse. Where it was for
my point of view, it was generally solely with the exclusion of either
Italy and France or Italy and Norway and generally decided by the votes
of the others versus those two. Germany, Halstein (sp ?) ) my man
is over there now -- because Halstein is having serious trouble with
his eyes -- and going over the whole thing with Halstein today and I'll
be able to reflect the German's. position to you but the Social Democrat
man who is there for Germany, a man named Dr. Palmer (?) --
K:
He's good!
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