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-2- K. That is right. Then we could at least point to something that we have managed to achieve in the I must tell you that you are perfectly free to play it your way and see what happens. Maybe the Egyptians will be SO desperate they will accept your proposal. It is not my judgment. It is inconceivable that the Soviets will permit the destruction of the Egyptian army and that the Egyptians will withdraw their army. It will bring down Sadat. It is not something he will agree to. D. I am not authorized or feel competent to give advise. But why can't I answer that Israel offers to let this army go intact with all side arms but cannot have 200 tanks go with these people SO they can go back on us. K. The agreement was ceasefire in place. Now they won't accept losing all that equipment and giving it to you. D. They can blow it up. K. You are asking them to destroy 200 tanks and pull their army out. They will never to it and the Soviets won't take that. Why don't you bluff for a day and see if you can get it. D. That is what we tried to do. K. If that is going to be your formal answer we will of course transmit it. It can be under no D. Mr. Secretary, if I asked my government to transfer to you the military plans we were able to obtain about the defenses of this army, will it make any difference. What is their operational plan? K. Right now I don't think they have any plans. D. They do as of today. We have it on tape. K. That is their way of breaking out. D. If they want to break out and go home we could help them. They don't have to kill our people. Their plan is to cut us and fortify themselves with tanks and missiles. It is suicidal for us in either way. K. It is.

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