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TELCON
December 4, 1973
Bill Donaldson - Secretary Kissinger
6:00 p.m.
K: I'm trying to put a speech to NATO together against everybody's
wishes. I was going to get a couple of proposals from you or Simons
on what we can propose on energy to the Europeans. My role is to get
to the outer limit of what the bureaucracy can tolerate, what could they
live with.
D: Well, what do you want to say.
K: What can be done cooperatively, I have no idea what it is, but
in the short term probably nothing, but in the middle term or the long
term. There must be something the procer nations can do to know where
the supply and demand problems are. What can we tell the Europenans
what are the advantages of concerted action.
D: Okay, I've got some definite thoughts on that.
K: Can I have it tomorrow?
D: Yah. While I've got you on the phone, you know Yamani is coming here
tomorrow, I invited him to lunch. I was going to see him after your 12
o'clock meeting.
K: You'd better cancel it. Well, at least play it absolutely cool. There
are lots of other things going on.
D: Did you see my memo yet.
K: No, they won't give it to me until 5 minutes before the meeting.
D: What I suggested is that you take. invited Bill Simons too.
K: Well, go ahead and have the lunch, just don't make any propositions,
don't give the impression of nervousness.
D: Absolutely, that's what my memo says to you.
K: Then Simons can sit in on the meeting with Yamani.
D: If you don't like what I said.
K: I will eventually find it.
D: Pickering has it in his hands right now.
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