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Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nH. Withdrawn and returned non-historical material.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential | ibrary\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nDECLASSIFIED 0; 1989-235-084/00024\nNA 14021 (4-85)\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\n9:45 a. m., January 2, 1974\nK:\nLarry, I wonder whether you should talk to Rush about Sisco.\nE:\nI think that should be done, yes.\nK:\nWould you do it?\nE:\nYeah.\nK:\nAnd tell him also that I've all but cleared Porter for Canada.\nE:\nOkay.\nK:\nNow, what did you mean that Jerry Jones wants to make the announcement\nat the White House. You had no authority to discuss that with him. I've\nalready settled that with Ziegler.\nV\nE:\nWell, there was a misinterpretation.\nK:\nJerry Jones is not giving me orders!\nE:\nI know. There is a misinterpretation in my message. My message to\nyou was I thought probably you would want it from the White House but I\nK:\nYeah, I've already taken care of that.\nE:\nOkay. That's all I wanted to know. Jerry Jones has not said anything\nabout it.\nK:\nNow, Catto is okay then.\nE:\nAs far as Jerry is concerned -- Jerry has checked his system, everything\nis fine. Jerry's suggestion is that the President might want to meet with\nboth Catto and his wife. That's the only comment he had.\nK:\nWell, since the President has not indicated their desire, do you think\nwe can let it go?\nE:\nYeah.\nK:\nSince we've met every demand of the President now.\nI'm\nE:\nYes, sir. Simply a transmission belt.\nK:\nOkay.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\n2\nE:\nDid you know that when Moshe Dayan saw Mr. Clements the last time\nhe gave him a copy of a certain map? I learned that this morning.\nwhen I was in the Defense Department.\nK:\nOf what map?\nE:\nThe disengagement map that he also gave you.'\nK:\nYou mean that one kilometer map?\nE:\nYeah. Not only did they discuss it but he gave him the map.\nK:\nYeah, but if that's considered progress, what good is it? Well, what\nwas the point of the conversation?\nE:\nNo, the only point I'm making --\nK:\nNo, I mean why did Schlesinger raise it?\nE::\nSchlesinger did not raise it with me. Bob Hill, whom I saw afterwards,\nsaid that Clements -- Well, he went through a long story, which I think\nyou know about Clements really kicking over the traces after he heard\nfrom Dayan. It was just at that point that he said that he gave him a map\nand I pleaded ignorant to the whole thing but it was very clear it was the\nsame map he gave you. And all I'm saying is Dayan apparently just bled\nhis guts to Clements.\nK:\nWell, then he's a bigger fool than I assumed.\nE:\nI don't know where else Hill could have gotten all this.\nK:\nWell, do you want to discuss that -- Well, I gave Schlesinger the story.\nHe could have gotten it from Schlesinger.\nE:\nOkay. Fine.\nK:\nWould you tell that to Dinitz?\nE:\nYes, I will. I will.\nK:\nDid Schlesinger offer you the ISA job?\nE:\nYeah. I said no. So then we spent the rest of the time talking about how\nit might be reorganized and made into an effective operation.\nK:\nWell, I think it's an outrage for him though to approach -- You know, I\nhad already talked to you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\n3\nE:\nYeah, I know. But when he called, I didn't --\nK:\nNo, you had to go but I think it is an outrage that he invites staff members\nof mine to a meeting and offers them a job.\nE:\nI think from what I gathered he's unhappy as hell about this Cooper\nbusiness.\nK:\nBut Cooper is another staff member of mine !!!!\nE:\nI know, I know.\nK:\nI mean, we're living in a nuthouse!\nE:\nI know that too. (laughter) Oh, boy. But I must say, he did not push\nhard. He said would you consider it? I said no, I would not; I think\nthat message has already been transmitted. He said, fine, then let's\ntalk about how the place might be reorganized. So he didn't push me hard\nat all.\nK:\nYeah.\nE:\nBetter get back here before everybody steals everything.\nK:\nBefore what?\nE:\nI'm just kidding.\nK:\nListen, this is not our biggest problem. Okay, fine.\nE:\nOkay, I'll take care of the Rush thing right away.\nK:\nAnd call me to tell me what his comments are.\nE:\nI will, sir.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHal Sonnenfeldt/Secy Kissinger\n9:50 a. m., January 2, 1974\nK:\nHal, how are you?\nS:\nI'm fine. I just wanted to wish you a happy new year and tell you that\nI was back.\nK:\nOh, good.\nS:\nAt your disposal whenever you want me.\nK:\nGood. We 11, we've got to swear you in next week.\nS:\nYeah. Well, that would be very nice. I look forward to that. They're\nhammering together some office which is some place on some floor\nup there if it's all right with you.\nK:\nThat's all right with me. In fact, I don't get into these things.\nS:\nNo, no, I think it will be fine.\nK:\nOkay. Now, Hal, have you seen the letter that Heath wrote to the\nPresident.\nS:\nNo.\nK:\nWell, would you draft a reply to it?\nS:\nYes. Does Brent have it here?\nK:\nHe must have it. Will you draft a reply and don't let him off too\neasily. He explains again how everything went beautifully and how\nS:\nregrettable it is that they couldn't get anything about energy into the\nstatement of the Nine. And I think we should just tell him we are\ngetting sort of tired of being told it's regrettable, that things don't\nhappen that are within their power to do. You know, I wouldn't put\nit that way.\nS:\nYeah.\nK:\nThen Jobert wrote a long letter on the energy thing.\nS:\nI saw that. I'm trying to make sense of it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nHal Sonnenfeldt/Secy Kissinger\n2\nK:\nWell, I think we can go ahead and make a proposal.\nS:\nWell, have you got this package out there?\nK:\nYeah.\nS:\nOf messages to heads of governments.\nK:\nYeah, I rather like it.\nS:\nYeah. I've only heard about it. I haven't had a chance to look at it.\nThat seems to me is the thing for us to do is to just follow up on\nthe thing. Otherwise, it will just languish.\nK:\nRight. Well, I agree with that but I had some concern about the letter.\nIt shouldn't be geared to the price rises, it should be put on its own\nmerit.\nS:\nYeah. I think if it's geared to that and the boycott, it will scare people\noff.\nK:\nNo, I think it should be done on its own merit and the price rises should\nbe used only as an example of the problem we face. So could you work\nwith Donaldson to get that letter redrafted?\nS:\nI will.\nK:\nGood.\nS:\nI've been catching up with the SALT stuff and I think the stuff we sent\nyou to Geneva was something of a breakthrough and I take it that -\nK:\nThat what?\nS:\nThe SALT stuff we sent you to Geneva I think was something of a break-\nthrough and I think we can build on that now.\nK:\nRight.\nS:\nThere's a Verification Panel meeting for next week I guess.\nK:\nRight.\nS:\nOkay.\nK:\nGood, thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER\n1\nON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\n10:50 a. m., January 2, 1974\nE:\nSir, I've talked to George Bush. He is highly enthusiastic about\nCatto. Thinks he would do a first-class job. Okay.\nK:\nOkay.\nE:\nSaid he pushed him earlier. Thinks he's\nK:\nWell, SO I will tell the President and we'll proceed.\nE:\nAll right.\nK:\nSo all we need then is Japan, right?\nE:\nYeah. I've talked to Peter Flanigan and he's going to get back\nK:\nWell, the President doesn't want Walter Haas. He thinks he's too old.\nE:\nI understand also that Haas is unpopular with Reagan.\nK:\nIs not popular with whom?\nE:\nReagan. He's the guy from California.\nK:\nYeah.\nAnd he's Jewish.\nE:\n(laughs) All right. We can send him to Jordan.\nK:\nI'll tell you these guys are really infiltrating.\nE:\n(laughs)\nK:\nThat means I need somebody for Jordan.\nabout\nE:\nYes, sir, it does. Did you get to talk / Bob Blake for Cambodia?\nK:\nI told it to Haig. I thought it would be better if Haig floated that one.\nWe can't send Blake to Jordan, can we?\nE:\nNo, I don't think so. Too tall.\nK:\nThat's true. What do we do with Dean? Can he do PM?\nE:\nSANITIZED\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\n2\nK:\nWhat do you think about Pickering for the Inspector General?\nE:\nThe IGA job.\nK:\nYeah.\nE:\nI think it's a waster of a lot of talent. I think he's Direc or General\nK:\nNo, no, that's what I meant -- Director General.\nE:\nDirector General by all means. I've just dictated a note to you, for\nwhen you get back, in which I say I think Pickering would give all the\nright signals to the Foreign Service.\nK:\nSome of these guys have been complaining to Charles Bartlett.\nE:\nI've also written you a note on that. Henry, these guys -- Don't let that\nbother you.\nK:\nNo, no. I know one of them who has complained is Funkhouser because\nhe mentioned that to me.\nE:\nWell, Funkhouser has gotten nothing out of this as far as I'm concerned.\nSANITIZED\nK:\nWhere?\nE:\nSANITIZED\nK:\nAnd I suspect Unger has complained too. Because he said others in that\ncategory.\nE:\nBut the answer is the Assistant Secretaries. If they can't make the\nmorale better in their bureaus, it's their concern.\nK:\nWell, but that's why I would like to get these new Assistant Secretaries in.\nE:\nThey will all be back by the middle of January. All of them.\nK:\nAnd all sworn in?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\n3\nE:\nNo, they can't all be sworn in until Congress until the Senate\napproves them. All of those that have been confirmed, yes. They\nwill all be sworn in. Buffum and Easum will have to have interim\nappointments.\nK:\nYou know that Sisco has decided to stay.\nE:\nNo.\nK:\nYeah. Well, you still think that's the right thing.\nE:\nYes, sir. I said I thought you ought to take another crack at Sisco.\nK:\nWell, he's agreed.\nE:\nOkay.\nK:\nSo I've now got to find something for Porter. Maybe Ambassador to\nCanada.\nE:\nThat's not a bad idea. Say, do you want me to go ahead and start\nputting papers together on Bill Hyland for I&R?\nK:\nYes.\nE:\nIt's not a Presidential appointment.\nK:\nYes. And then I want to move Pickering -- I want to get this thing.\nAnd I want to get Nat Davis appointed next week too.\nE:\nI assume I know the way\nK:\nDon't you think?\nE:\nI'd go on that; I'd go on Springsteen, Pickering and -- -\nK:\nYeah, but they're all interconnected.\nE:\nYeah, I know they are. And then Sisco will do the other. I think that's\ngood. Powers of persuasion have always been known to be great.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger - Guido Goldman\nJanuary 2, 1973\n11:00 a.m.\nK: Hello.\nG: Hi, Henry. Happy new year.\nK: Happy New Year to you, Guido.\nG: Thank you. I'm calling mainly about the Glucksnick question just to see what\nyour preference is. Do you still feel that it would be valuable if they were to\nmeet and ask you to join them for a meeting in Washington?\nK: Well, let me wait until I have seen Dayan. I've gotten a lot of static about\nKlucksnick and I just want to make sure I'm not making my life harder.\nG: I see. You know, he's pro-Israeli but ündependent. You know he only\nwants to be constructive.\nK: Oh, I know that. He's a fine man. I liked him very much when I met him.\nG: The group is very high level and the others are willing to fly back from a\nholiday they take it very seriously. And I think the main point that I\nwant to say is that if you think it is inoportune for you to set a date in the near\nfuture, I think perhaps you would want to keep this as an option for later on.\nK: No, I will do it within the next two weeks almost for certain.\nG: I see. The thing is, do you think there would be any value in --if you don't\nwant to set a firm date soon to call Klutchsnick or would you want to call\nhim\nK: I'll call him early next week.\nG: OK, I think he would appreciate it--not just for himself- but to be sure that\nhe is helpful to you.\nK: I understand that.\nG: He's aware of all the politics.\nK: I've never seen the list that he wanted to put together.\nGus\nG: I can give it to you. It's Exed Levy, Fred Lazareth, Raymond Nasher,\nWalter Hass, Ed Gabromski, Marver Berstein, Alex Shindler, Gershin Cohen,\nand probably Henry Lasoshski.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n2\nK: Well, now that I've met with the Fischer group, I don't see any reason not\nto meet with other Jewish groups.\nG: Right, that would be my feeling but I don't---I want to be sure that this is helpful\nto you.\nK: No, I will do it in the next two weeks.\nG: Very good. Until the beginning of next week, he will be in Europe. So if\nthere were communication, it would have to be done before the weekend or after\nnext week. I don't want to pressure you in any way but I just sort of read him\nas being unclear that he may be doing something that may be awkward for\nyou and he must let his people know. He thought if he could communicate with\nhim this week that it might be helpful.\nK: No, I'll call him before Friday night.\nG: I'll be down in Washington on Friday and a little bit on Saturday if you would\nlike to see me.\nK: Why don't you leave you number at my office where I can reach you.\nI'm now on the West Coast but I'm planning to be back tomorrow night. I may\nhave a dinner with Nancy and a few other on Friday night. Why don't you keep\nthat open.\nThat xwork\nG: That would be lovely. I certainly will do that. Good, Henry. And I hope\nthe year is a very, very good one for you.\nK: I hope the same for you.\nG: It certainly is a difficult one. Anything that I can do to help at any stage I\nwould be happy to do.\nK: Well, I appreciże that. The Israeli election is not helping any.\nG: No, I realize that. I mean, you are really remarkable. So many things to\nconfront at one time. But, I'm hoping for you.\nK: Thank you.\nG: Hoping to see you Friday.\nK: OK, bye.\nG: Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nHAK/Eagleburger\n2 Jan 1974\n11:02 a.m.\n(section missed)\nK: I hope to God not, I'll be broke. [Laughter] You'll have massive\ncharges of corruption. Okay. What time is the funeral?\nE: It's at 10:30.\nKL Well, then we better, what do we do with the Israelis? Maybe we\nshould start at lunch and do it in the afternoon.\nE: Okay.\nK: How many are they bringing?\nE: I don't know.\nK: Will you find out?\nE: Yup.\nK: But I think I owe it to the foreign Service to go to that funeral.\nE: I didn't know that you had known him personally. I think it makes\ngood sense. Okay. I'll take care of that and I'll let you know how\nmany are coming.\nK: Good.\nE: Okay. Bye\nK: Bye\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nDP\nMr. Phillip Klutsnick/Secy Kissinger\n12:10 p.m., January 2, 1973\nPK:\nHello, Mr. Secretary. Happy New Year.\nHK:\nHappy New Year to you.\nPK:\nThank you.\nHK:\nMr. Klutsnick, I'm sorry we've had so much trouble getting together\nbecause I've been away.\nPK:\nI know and you're doing more important things.\nHK:\nNo, but I would like to get together with that group you suggested.\nPK:\nI understand some of the things that have happened and I think they\nare for the better. So, when would you like to do it?\nHK:\nWhy are they for the better?\nPK:\nWell, I think the meeting you had was an essential meeting. I'm glad\nyou had it.\nHK:\nOh, you mean with the Leadership Group?\nPK:\nYes, I'm happy you had it. If I had known that you were willing to take\nthat kind of meeting, I would have urged you to do it long ago.\nHK:\nYeah, it makes it easier than to meet with other Jewish leaders.\nPK:\nOf course. But on top of that, they all feel very sensitive and you know\nthere's no way you can keep a complete secret in this world. Except\nin your office. So what date would you suggest?\nHK:\nHow about some time the week after this. Say the week of the 14th.\nPK:\nThe week of the 14th. Could it be just as well the following? I'm\nthinking of a couple of fellows that are out of the country.\nHK:\nSure.\nPK:\nIf it could be just as well the following, it would be better.\nHK:\nOkay, let's do it the following.\nPK:\nWhich day would you prefer?\nHK:\nWhat are the dates?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPhillip Klutsnick/Secy Kissinger\n2\nPK:\nFrom the week of the 21st.\nHK:\nWell, let's say the 22nd.\nPK:\nThe 22nd.\nHK:\nYeah.\nPK:\nThe 22nd is all right.\nHK:\nAll right.\nPK:\nAnd what time would you like it? The same arrangement or would you\nrather have it in your office?\nIn light of --\nHK:\nIn light of the fact that I saw the others in my office.\nPK:\nYes.\nHK:\nWhy don't we do it in my office?\nPK:\nAt what time?\nHK:\nLet's say at 5 o'clock. Or six, whichever is easier for your schedule.\nPK:\nIt doesn't make a wit of difference, 5 or 6, whichever is best for you.\nHK:\nLet's say at 5\nPK:\nAt 5:00 and I will immediately contact them and confirm it with\nMr. Campbell.\nHK:\nThat's right. 22nd at 5:00.\nPK:\n22nd at 5:00.\nHK:\nGood, look forward to that.\nPK:\nLikewise and thank you very much.\nHK:\nAnd thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Rush/Secy Kissinger\n12:15 p.m., January 2, 1974\nR:\nI just had a talk with Bill Porter and he has taken this very well.\nWhether he wants to go to Canada, he wants to talk over with Eleanor,\nhis wife, tonight.\nK:\nI think that's a good post.\nR:\nI think it would be a wonderful post for him. And I certainly would like\nto see Bill get a good post. He deserves it. He seemed attracted to it,\nHenry, which is a bit contrary to what he had told me sometime earlier.\nK:\nYeah.\nR:\nAnd I think he's going to take it.\nK:\nGood.\nR:\nNow, it would be a good thing -- If he does take it, he would very much\nlike to have that announced at the same time that Joe's appointment is\nannounced on Monday.\nK:\nWell, can we get it cleared that fast?\nR:\nI would hope so. Can you clear it with the President?\nK:\nWell, I have it cleared with the President but don't we need an agrement?\nR:\nWe need the agrement. We need for security clearance.\nK:\nWell, the hell with the security clearance.\nR:\nForget that. And we have to call Smith. Let me see what I can do about it.\nK:\nI'd be strongly in favor of it.\nR:\nI would too. Let me see what I can do.\nK:\nGood. And also I think I'm going to make Nat Davis Congressional.\nR:\nOkay.\nK:\nAnd probably Pickering then into Davis' job.\nR:\nThat would be all right.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSecy Rush/Secy Kissinger\n2\nK:\nAnd then Springsteen into Pickering's job.\nR:\nI think that would be fine.\nK:\nBut that we can discuss tomorrow.\nR:\nI think all of those would be good.\nK:\nGood. Wonderful.\nR:\nWell, fine, Henry. I'll see you tomorrow.\nK:\nGood. Thank you, Ken.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nNorm Kempster, Wash-Star News\nSecretary Kissinger\n12:25 p.m., January 2, 1975\nNK:\nHello, this is Norm Kempster of the Washington-Star News.\nHK:\nYeah.\nNK:\nI was wondering if there would be a chance to see Dr. Kissinger today.\nHK:\nI am Mr. Kissinger.\nNK:\nOh, yes, indeed you are, sir.\nHK:\nI'm holding a press conference tomorrow.\nNK:\nOkay, I hadn't heard about that. That's fine.\nHK:\nI think that will give you --\nNK:\nOh, sure, that will be more than adequate. I didn't realize that.\nWhat time, sir?\nHK:\nAt 10 or 11, I don't know.\nNK:\nOkay, fine. Thank you very much. I'll see you tomorrow then.\nHK:\nGood. Thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nHAK/Eagleburger\n2 Jan 1974\n1:50 p.m.\nK: Larry?\nE: Yes, sir.\nK: I know it's very unusual but this is Wednesday. Do you think you\ncould get me a lunch schedule for next week? There would be a lot\nmore excitément if we did it on Friday and Saturday.\nE: All right, sir. I'll take a look at your schedule right away.\nK: I'm sure it doesn't exist.\nE: Okay.\nK: But I think I ought to see McNaca McNamara for example\nnext week.\nE: Okay. Are there any others?\nK: You know, just a little creativity. Within the n ext hour.\nE: Okay, sir.\nK: Good. Thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSECRETARY KISSI NGER - PETER FLANIGAN\nJanuary 2, 1973\n2:45 p.m.\nH\nK: Hello.\nF: Hello, Henry.\nK: How are you? Pete, I was talking with the President. You are looking\nfor people for Japan for me.\nF: That's correct.\nK: And you mentioned the former head of Sears? Who are you talking about?\nF: The former head is a fellow by the name of Gordon Metcals. A very able\nguy. We thought that William--and his nickname is Mill Batten, who the\nPresident knows, is better.\nK: OK.\nF: He is a former head of JC Penney. You want to hear the rest of the list?\nK: And can you get it over to Eagleburger so that he can LDX it out here?\nF: Sure, it has already gone to Eagleburger. Now, Howard Clark, of Amer.\nExpress---he's supposed to retire in a few years. Several of these men might\nbe on the edge of retirement so they might be available.\nK: Good.\nF: Well, I'll read them to you quickly. In order of ability and the fact that\nthey are close to retirement. Mill Batten, of JC Penney. A fellow by the name\nof Bob Ullman of National Cash Register, Gordon Metcalf of Sears, a wonderful\nfellow, Jim Binger of Honeywell, he's only 57. I doubt that he would be available.\nBill Hewitt of Dear & Co. and Howard Clark. But the first three would be\nmy recommendations.\nK: OK. Good.\nF: Good, Henry.\nK: Now, Firestone won't take Canada. And I would like to give it to Bill Porter\nwho is moving.\nF: at's fine.\nh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n2\nK: And the President asked me just to call me to ask if you have a deserving\nnon-contributing supporter but I hope you will say no.\nF: I don't. Let' me ask you a question, though.\nBill Porter is a very able\ndiplomat and certainly knows his business. I have felt that we have missed the\nboat in Canada because we had that fellow you had been with the bank, whose\nname I forget and then we had Adolph Schmit, and this is ayoung, energetic\nnation. And it's a young, energetic government- Trudeau is young, John Turner\nis young relatively young, and their sort of feisty in some ways. Certainly\nTurner is. Bill Porter, while he can be feisty, seems to me less sort of tough.\nMaybe I'm reading him wrong. I don't know him all that well. We really need\nto get close to those people and we certainly haven't with out last two appointments.\nK: Well, whom do we have to be realistic. Porter is tough, all right. He is\nnot the most sociable guy in the world. But he is tough.\nF: But is he a bit prissy?\nK: Prissy? No,wI feel it biggest drawback is that he tends to get abrasive.\nF: That doesn't bother me a bit up there.\nK: No, prissy isn't his problem.\nF: Well, then I can't think of an alternative.\nK: OK, because it would help me if when I'm moving him it doesn't kixxex look\nas if I'm throwing him in the ash can.\nF: Sure. No, I think he is an improvement on what we've got up there. I hope\nyou are not thinking of Schmit for the OECD and I don't see why we owe Adolph\nSchmit anything.\nK: Well the White House is pushing like crazy for him and I ran it past the\nPresident on that basis and he is willing to do it, but I don't have any interest\nin Adolph Schmidt.\nF: The White House is pushing like crszy for him? I wonder who that can be.\nI've been talking with Jerry Jones and he denied it. He said you were.\nK: Look, I'd be delighted to put a hold on Schmidt. Who do you want?\nF: I'll find you some good people. I don't think he is good enough.\nK: Look, I have no i nterest in Schmidt.\nF: OK, I'll go to Jones and come back to you with 3 or 4 good people.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n3\nK: Good.\nF: I will go along with Porter.\nK: Fine, thank you.\nF: Thanks.\nK: Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nJerry Warren/Secy Kissinger\n3:20 p. m., January 2, 1973\nW:\nI'm sorry to bother you but I wondered if you wanted to do this\nfor film tomorrow morning, the TV cameras?\nK:\nIt's up to you. But I thought we'd do it very informally. No opening\nstatement.\nW:\nRight.\nK:\nDon't you think?\nW:\nI think that would be fine. Unless you have some point you want to\nmake. I don't know what you and Ron have talked about but if you\nhave a point you want to make in an opening statement, that would be\nfine. But as far as film is concerned --\nK:\nDo you think I should make an opening statement?\nW:\nI don't think it's necessary, Henry.\nK:\nWe'll just do it informally.\nW:\nRight. When we do it informally, maybe we should just do it for\nsound radio and no cameras.\nK:\nWhy don't you let -- They might want cameras.\nW:\nI think they will want cameras.\nK:\nWell, why don't you do it?\nW:\nOkay. It's entirely up to you as far as we are concerned.\nK:\nLet's do it.\nW:\nAll right, well do it with cameras.\nK:\nGood.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\nJanuary 2, 1973 [1974]\nK:\nI want to attend the Bohlen funeral.\nE:\nAll right, sir.\nK:\nWhat time is it?\nE:\nI'll have to find out sir. It's in the morning, I don't think they've got\na firm time yet. I'll call that back to you as soon as I get it.\nK:\nI think we should put out a statement today.\nE:\nI've got a letter which I just cleared and they're now typing up in a\ntelegram from you to Mrs. Bohlen, which I don't have in front of me\nbut which says how terribly sorry you are that this great --\nK:\nAnd also a good friend.\nE:\nGood friend and great Foreign Service Officer and SO forth.\nK:\nYeah, but I think we should issue an statement from the State Department\nand soon.\nE:\nIn addition to the letter?\nK:\nWould we publish the letter?\nE:\nYeah, we would publish the letter. I think that's better.\nK:\nNo, that's fine.\nE:\nOkay, we'll publish. I'm getting that off right away and get George\nto release it. Here it is right here. Let me read it to you: The\ndeath of your husband has filled all of his friends and associates in\nthe Department of State and Foreign Service with a deep sense of loss.\nI share this sorrow knowing as I do how much he contributed to the\nForeign Service and how much I share this sorrow knowing as I do\nhow much the Foreign Service meant to him and how much he contributed\nto his country. He was a good friend. Chip Bohlen will be remembered\nnot only as an outstanding --\nK:\nWhat did I say And in addition I have a deep sense of personal loss\nbecause I considered him a good friend.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLarry Eagleburger/ Secy Kissinger\n2\nE:\nChip Bohlen will be remembered not only as an outstanding expert\non the Soviet Union as a respected counselor to the Presidents but as\na distinguished Ambassador.\nK:\nTo Presidents and Secretaries of State.\nE:\nOkay. But above all, as a warm human being whose charm and integrity\nwon him the affection and loyalty of all those who knew him.\nK:\nPut integrity first.\nE:\nOkay. He both represented and helped to create the best traditions\nof the Foreign Service. Your husband's memory will be with us always\nand serve as an inspiration and example to those who follow him in the\nAmerican Diplomatic Service. You and your children have my deepest\nsympathy. Sincerely, Henry A. Kissinger.\nK:\nAnd warmest good wishes.\nE:\nOkay, we'll get that released right away.\nAnd I'll get back to Jerry\nwith the time for the funeral.\nK:\nOkay. Now, on the personnel things, I do not want you to check with\nVolpe. Why should you check with Volpe if he isn't Volpe's candidate?\nE:\nI meant if he had any candidates.\nK:\nI don't want him to give us candidates.\nE:\nAll right.\nK:\nNow, also the President will take Catto if Bush doesn't veto him.\nE:\nDo you want me to pursue that?\nK:\nYeah.\nE:\nAnything else?\nK:\nNo, that's all.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLarry Eagleburger/Secy Kissinger\nAfternoon, January 2, 1974\nK:\nLarry, can you hold up on the Schmidt appointment?\nE:\nYeah, I haven't sent it over yet anyway.\nK:\nOkay. And almost certainly we'll make Porter Ambassador to Canada.\nE:\nFine. Do you want us to go ahead with Safer (sp?).\nK:\nNow, he wants you to run one more check by Jerry Jones on Catto.\nE:\nAll right.\nK:\nCan you do that tomorrow morning?\nE:\nSure. Just to find out whether he has any problems, is that it?\nK:\nYeah.\nE:\nOkay. I'm sure he doesn't but I'll double-check it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger - Mr. Sisco\nJanuary 2, 1973\n2:58 p.m.\nK: Hello.\nS: Hello.\nK: Joe, what I think I should do is a brief reply to Fahmy.\nS: That's what we're doing for you--a brief one.\nK: I think he need it more than Sakaff.\nS: Yeah, but not too much because if you begin to engage him substantially\nthen it begins to carry it out- but it would be soothing, don't you think?\nK: Well,\nwe can do something that was similar to the Sakaff letter.\nS: Right.\nK: That explains my reasoning. But not too long.\nS: Right. Along those lines. OK.\nK: Now, secondly, I think we should keep P open the possibility of Sakaff\ncoming over here. It is pure domestic politics - - so that we can give the\nPresident some credit.\nS: We just tell Aiken to temporize on the thing.\nK: Good.\nS: All right. Thank you very much.\nK: Good Joe. Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nJoe Sisco/Secy Kissinger\nAfternoon, January 2, 1974\nK:\nJoe, I think I should do a brief reply to Fahmi.\nS:\nYes, that's what we're doing for you -- a brief one.\nK:\nI think he needs it more than Saqqaf.\nS:\nWell, but not too much because if you begin to engage him substantively,\nthen it kind of carries it out. But one that's soothing, don't you think?\nK:\nWell, what you can do is something similar to the Saqqaf letter.\nS:\nRight.\nK:\nThat explains my reasoning. But not too long.\nS:\nAlong those lines.\nK:\nYeah. But not too long and not too apologetic.\nS:\nAll right. (laughter) Okay.\nK:\nNow, secondly, I think we should keep open the possibility of Saqqaf coming\nover here. It's pure domestic politics. So that we can give the President\nsome credit.\nS:\nWhy don't we just tell Akin to temporarize on the thing.\nK:\nGood.\nS:\nAll right. Okay. Thank you very much.\nK:\nGood, Joe.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nGen Scowcroft/Secy Kissinger\nJanuary 2, 1973\n4\nK:\nBrent, did we let the State Department know about that Dayan message?\nS:\nYeah.\nK:\nAnd what did they say?\nS:\nOh, excuse me, I thought you meant the announcement.\nK:\nThe announcement, that's what I mean. So that they can cover it at\ntheir briefing. But I hope that we gave them different questions and\nanswers.\nS:\nWell, we gave them our questions and answers just for background.\nK:\nThe fact that I disapprove most of them, would that bother anybody?\nS:\nI hadn't heard that. I didn't know that. I didn't know that.\nK:\nWould you kindly reclaim them and get them made consistent?\nS:\nYes, I sure will. I will do it immediately.\nK:\nI mean, they were not violently different but I gave it a slightly different\nfocus.\nS:\nI'll get on it immediately.\nK:\nThank you.\nS:\nRight.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nJoe Sisco/Secy Kissinger\n11:02 a.m., January 3, 1973\nS:\nMr. Secretary, we have gotten\nK:\nAll I want you to know is I do appreciate the honor that you get on the\nphone first to me now.\nS:\nThat's what I tried to do this time.\nK:\nI just don't want you to think I don't appreciate it.\nS:\nI figured you would. I'll try to do better in the future. We've had another\nletter from Fahmi and this one is a complaint that the Israelis are not\npermitting the convoys to pass to the East side of the Canal. Now, I\ndon't know whether this is the fact to the matter or not.\nK:\nWell, why don't we take it up with Dayan tomorrow?\nS:\nAll right, we can. In the meantime if there's anything I can find out\nby way of facts from someone such as [Irvkot - sp? for example, will\nknow what the story is. And then we can answer the Egyptians after\nwe've talked to Dayan.\nK:\nJoe, I have edited that message to Akins to make a little stronger.\nI don't know whether you've got it already.\nS:\nNo, I haven't as yet. This is the one on the Saqqat thing - - I've got it\nin front of me as I sent it to you.\nK:\nYeah. Well, I want to add a sentence at the end saying that unless\n--\nyou know, I'm surrounded by maniacs here -- I don't know what they\ndo with cables that I -- But the point is that at the end I think we should\nsay to him explicitly -- there's no sense in his coming if his being here\nif not followed fairly soon by the lifting of the embargo.\nS:\nSure, sure.\nK:\nSo that he should plan his visit to precede the lifting of the embargo\nby a week or two.\nS:\nAnd connected with it.\nK:\nThat's right.\nS:\nWell, I'll have a look at the change. Anything that says, that's precisely\nthe way we feel on this end on that one.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nJoe Sisco/Secy Kissinger\n2\nK:\nI think that's the only way to do it.\nS:\nYeah.\nK:\nNow, I like the approach of Akins to Faisal about the oil question and\nhe ought to do that.\nS:\nI see. The --\nK:\nThe bilateral deal.\nS:\nThe bilateral deal. Well, I've taken it up here this morning. I like\nit too. But what I've asked -- Apparently there are a lot of complications\nto this one.\nK:\nListen, anything that is touched by EB has complications.\nS:\n(laughter) Well, that's with whom I spoke this morning.\nK:\nOne complication is that we're doing something. Now, what's the\ncomplication?\nS:\nThe question is: One, I think you've got to have the lawyers look at this\nto see whether it's possible to make this kind of bilateral agreement.\nBut, secondly, can we really produce as a government to government\non this kind of situation?\nK:\nAt this point, I'm not assuming.\nS:\nYeah.\nK:\nIf we don't, then we're going to turn it all over to the French, British\nand Japs.\nS:\nWell, in any event, I've got a couple of people looking at it. As soon as\nI can --\nK:\nAlso talk to Donaldson. But I would like to authorize Akins by early\nnext week to do this.\nS:\nAll right. I've asked that all the pros and cons be done for you on this --\nK:\nYeah, but as long as they all know that I'm going to be for it.\nS:\nYeah. All right.\nK:\nIt would take some overwhelming reasons to get me against it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nJoe Sisco/Secy Kissinger\n3\nS:\nI've been for this idea for 2 years but I haven't been able to convince\nanybody.\nK:\nWell, I'm convinced. And tomorrow evening a cable is going out.\nS:\nWell, give it another day but I'll talk --\nK:\nTomorrow evening!\nS:\nYeah, okay. I'll talk to as many people as I can.\nK:\nWell, talk to Donaldson. But by tomorrow evening I want it done.\nS:\nOkay. Well, I'll pass this along to him.\nK:\nGood.\nS:\nThank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMr. Donaldson/Secy Kissinger\n11:32 m., January 3, 1974\nK:\nBill, two things. One, Akins has sent in a cable about a possible\nbilateral approach to the Saudis. Have you seen it?\nD:\nI've seen it, yeah.\nK:\nWell, I'm in favor of at least opening the discussion. So will you work\nwith Sisco on how to do it?\nY\nD:\neah. You want to prepare a contingency thing or do you want him\nactually --\nK:\nI want him to begin talking to Faisal. Nothing can come of it anyway\nvery quickly. But I don't want us to be the only country that is not\ntalking to him bilaterally.\nD:\nOkay. We'll start to work on that. You want the pros and cons on that?\nK:\nI want the pros and cons but I'll tell you right now which way I'm going\nto go unless the cons are overwhelming.\nD:\nOkay.\nK:\nWe can't be the only ones insisting on multi-lateralism when no one else\ndoes it. We can always go to a multilateral solution. Opening the\ndiscussion isn't going to get us anywhere very quickly.\nD:\nOkay. Sisco just mentioned that to me and I will try and put something\ntogether that's positive but also, you know, includes everybody's negatives.\nK:\nYeah, what are the negatives?\nD:\nWell, I guess maybe it could upset the embargo lifting thing.\nK:\nWhy?\nD:\nWell, if he thinks we're being squeezed so much that we've got to make\na unilateral deal with them, maybe he thinks he ought to keep it on a little\nlonger\nK:\nNonsense. That I don't believe.\nD:\nOkay.\nK:\nI think the embargo lifting has next to nothing to do with this; that depends\nentirely on the Israeli talks.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nBill Donaldson/Secy Kissinger\n2\nD:\nOkay. It's not just the embargo but just the idea that, you know, finally\nnow with all the pressure they put on, even the United States is now\ntrying to make a deal with them. It just makes them feel that the whole\nstrategy is brighter than maybe\nI'm not questioning that we\nshouldn't have a contingency plan.\nK:\nA contingency plan won't do us any good if we haven't opened the\ndiscussion.\nD:\nRight. Okay. I guess I would want to haul out the contingency plan\nthe minute we see that these other guys don't go along with us; in case\nthey don't go along.\nK:\nYeah, but why is that better to open the discussion and then let it drag\nuntil the other guys don't go along with us?\nD:\nI just think he might interpret it as a sign of weakness. Your judgment\nK:\nWell, I'd like to see By the time the others have sewed up large\nchunks of this thing, it doesn't do us much good to open the discussion.\nD:\nSo far, you know, those deals are pretty small. I mean, 200 thousand\nbarrels a day to the French is nothing. And the British haven't even\nK:\nWell, we don't have to go that way. I think it will be a better pressure\nthough if we have an option to go this way.\nD:\nRight.\nK:\nI have never seen the advantage in not getting yourself an option.\nD:\nRight.\nK:\nSecondly, I had a press conference this morning and I announced that the\nPresident was going to make an initiative next week.\nD:\nOh, you did.\nK:\nYeah.\nD:\nGood. Well, that brings me to the second reason why I was going to call\nyou. And, that is, first of all, I talked to both the Germans and the\nBritish Ambassadors. The British, you know, were very forthcoming\nand he said he would go back to them and he was all very friendly. The\nGerman guy was a little more guarded in the sense he felt they were in a\nsort of a special position now because they now share the EC thing.\nK:\nOh, bull!\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nBill Donaldson/Secy Kissinger\n3\nD:\nAnd I told him, I said we weren't asking you to be forthcoming\non some program you know nothing about but we're just - - you know,\neverybody else has said something and all we want you to do is say\nthat you think the idea of everybody getting together is a good idea and\nthe Kissinger proposal is one that merits a good hard look and that we\nknow the details.\nK:\nYeah.\nD:\nHe came over here and I had a long conversation. But he was balking\na little bit.\nK:\nWell, the Europeans are almost impossible right now.\nD:\nYeah. Along that line, the British have sent out a cable to all their\nEmbassies and have sent us a copy of the thing and the net of it is\nthat they want their Embassies to go into the OPEC people before their\nmeeting on Monday and tell them how bad we think the price rise is,\nyou know, that they've got to do something about it, roll it back. And\nV\nthey've come to us and I guess they are going to all the other OECD\ncountries and asking for some help on it. Basically, if you remember,\nwe made kind of an eleventh hour attempt at this OPIC meeting.\nK:\nYeah. I would not do any more.\nD:\nYou would not do any more?\nK:\nNo. Our position is now clear.\nD:\nWould you absolutelyh -- the only reason I'd do something would be\nto sort of forthcoming to the British.\nK:\nNo, we've made it pretty clear. We've made it clear to the Saudis,\nwe've made it clear to Iran, made it clear to Venezuela.\nD:\nYeah.\nK:\nOur views by now are known.\nD:\nOkay.\nK:\nGood. Thank you, Bill. I'll see you tomorrow..\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nThe President/Secy Kissinger\n12:45 p.m., January 3, 1973\nK:\nMr. President.\nP:\nHi, Henry. Everybody tells me you did a fine job at your press\nconference.\nK:\nWell, I laid into them.\nP:\nGood.\nK:\nActually, they asked our sort of question. What about this story that\nyou're conducting an independent foreign policy? So this gave me a chance\nto say how often we meet, how you give me directions before I go, how\nI am in touch every evening, how I am on top of it in touch with Scowcroft\nwhom you see regularly and Haig. And I said, but moreover I don't like\nthe idea of a government of independent fiefdoms wasn't run by feudal\nbarrons. The President is in charge of foreign policy. That's the way\nthe constitution provides it; that's the way it is; that's the way it will\nalways be as long as I'm in the Department and the President is in the\nWhite House.\nP:\nThat's good, Henry.\nK:\nYou know, that was --\nP:\nGreat!\nK:\nThen they said: How can the President conduct foreign policy when he's\nbeing impeached? I said: Well, you've got one thing wrong. He's\nisn't being impeached. And they said: Well, as long as there's a threat\nof impeachment. I said: You read the President's annual Foreign Policy\nReport. He has designed a strategy; he is pursuing it. He is pursuing\nit for the sake of the peace of the world and he is in no way influenced\nby any of the domestic considerations which you imply and he will do what\nis right and only what is right.\nP:\nThat's very good.\nK:\nAnd I also indicated at great length that you were spending a lot of time\non the energy problem and I said you were going to approach various heads\nof government next week. We're spelling out these proposals and that\ngave me a chance to give them your approach to it., which is more than\nwe could have done We couldn't release the letter so we would have had\nto have had Ziegler just say it.\nP:\nSure, much better for you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nThe President/Secy Kissinger\n2\nK:\nNo, much better for you.\nP:\nMuch better for you to say it though.\nK:\nIt gives a much better ride to the story.\nP:\nOf course.\nK:\nSo I thought it was a pretty good press --\nP:\nOh, everybody thought so, yeah. Ron and Al both called me and said\nthey thought it was great.\nK:\nAl told you about that letter I had from the Saudis --\nP:\nYeah.\nK:\nA fellow called McMullin going around there saying that on behalf of\nFord that you're going to be impeached in two months.\nP:\nThat's a curious thing. Have you ever met him?\nK;\nI don't even know who he is. Do you know who he is ?\nP:\nNo, never heard of him.\nK:\nProbably one of these goddamn oil executives.\nP:\nNo, but we know most of those. Hummm. But we'll run it down.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Schlesinger - Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n2:50 p.m.\nK: I am going to send Dayan off in a few minutes. We have made\nsome very ggood progress. We are not all the way, not yet, but\n90% of the way. They are psycopathic, though that this be kept only\nto you. I have to meet with him again tomorrow. I am fairly op-\ntimistic, though. They want some assurances of longer term supplies\nso I thought you could.\nS: Well, that's a politicalthing. You understand we have now\ncommitted 1.3 billion. After we pass 1.5 billion it has to be a\nPresidential determination.\nK: Under these conditions we will be able to do that though. I think\nyou could tell them its no problem and be willing to discuss a long\nterm supply proposal with them.\nS: This is what the administration wants?\nK: Yes.\nS: Okay. The P\nK: The President wants to do this if they are helpful in the political\nthing. Moreover, if. I think we will have less trouble from the Arabs\nif we do it clearly related to getting them to make concessions. We\nwouldn't be delivering these things until they have delivered a part of it\nanyway. If they could see some positive tone as a result of their\npositive thinking.\nS: We will give them positive tone. The things we will not be too\npositive about are the following: (1) There are certain advanced items\nwe just don't have in our inventory. They are asking for C\nwhich, you knowis still in R&D. This sophisticated stuff just isn't\navailable. (2) We can do the A-4s, we can go ahead with Skyhawks\nand 50 million dollars worth of choppers they want.\nK: I'd be pretty good on Skyhawks and choppers.\nS: The A-4s and othe r advanced to a lesser extent, though.\nK: They are getting walleye's aren't they.\nS: We have walleyes but what they want is the advanced walleyes,\nthe extended long range walleyes. We just don't have those available.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n2.\nS: They seem to have gotten their requests from the manufacturers\nxlex dream board.\nK: They do seem to be extremely well informed.\nS: We'll be forthcoming.\nK: I'll get back to you after talking to him again tomorrow.\nS: Would you want to have somebody here for the meeting?\nK: At the meeting. Is Brent going to be theere? No, no. I will\ntake your word. You are nice to even suggest it, though. Thank\nyou Jim.\nS: OK Henry.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nGeneral Haig/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1973\n3:35 pm\nK: How are you ? I wanted to check one thing to get your personal\njudgement. I have had a very good talk with Dayan. They have\nbasically bought our concept. It is a tremendous advance. Really\nincredible. But there are enough wrinkles in it for them so it\nis hard to handle through diplomatic channels. If I talk to Sadat I could\nget the\naccomplished. But I know what our leader would think\nif I was to go out there. I would just go to Cairo and Tel Aviv.\nH: Yeah.\nK: I can have our Ambassadors present it to him but the explanations\nwould have to be so complex.\nH: What are you telling me?\nK: If I do it I should do it next week. some time if you are that\neager to get it settled.\nH: Sure. Would you go to Cairo?\nK: If we present this in Geneva and let the Russians hack at it we\nmay get a stalemate\nH: Is Dayan speaking for her?\nK: yes. This thing is now for the first time within manageable\nrange but still not acceptable to the Egyptians. The Egyptians want\nthem to withdraw to the Mitla Pass.\nthe Egyptians watn.\ntwo kilometers\nat the Suez Canal. They are willing to give them two battalions. They\nhave given up the idea of tanks east of the Canal. if they are willing\nto have\nbut if every concession becomes the result of a cable.\ndo you\nsee what I mean?\nH: I understand.\nK: I don't want to present it to him because he will go into orbit.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nH: I think we ought to do what will get this thing settled.\nK: I got him good publicity yesterday.\nH: Excellent, excellent. That problem is manageable.\nK: I am not so eager to take another trip out there\nif this is\nthe last Israeli position.\nH: That's right.\nK: I would go to Cairo and Tel Aviv and I may hop to Damascus to keep\nthem quiet -- but essentially it will be Cairo and Tel Aviv for three\nor four days\nMy worry is we put it into Geneva and the Egyptians\nwill\nand I may have to get to break a deadlock.\nH: That's a traditional problem, but the basic problem is if you go\nthere and get caught up in a vice\nI would hate to think, if you should\ngo and get caught in a stalemate, I mean you are included in it.\nK: He WO uld like it and then he could get rid of me.\nHow is our frame of mind?\nH: Fine, much better than yesterday.\nK: I left San Clemente very depressed. I am beginning to wonder\nhow long this is manageable.\nH: It is\nin the Los Angeles Times.\nK: That part is manageable. I think we have it won. What may not be\nis our\nH: No, that is manageable.\nthe question is that this thing will rise\nor fall on what is accomplished. I think if there is opposition and it\nis real and now and not a situation where you are rendered inoperative then we\nought to take it.\nK: Let us analyze the plan and find out if the Israelis mean this is\nthere final position because ithen there will be a deadlock.\nI may be able\nto bring about a meeting with Dayan and their top man but let me\nthink about it. You think you can manage it if I find it desirable to go.\nH: We can manage whatever is necessary.\nK: OK, fine.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmbassador Dobrynin - Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n3:46 p.m.\nD:\nabout the time of your arrival in Moscow. You remember\nwe discussed with you about 7 through 10\none or two days, really.\nK: Right. Let's definitely set it for that.\nD: 7-10 of March?\nK: Right. That is I think better from my point of view.\nD: We think it will give more time to work on some major problems\nto be discussed at a summit meeting. It will give chance to discuss with\nyou when we have a proper opportunity.\nK: Let's do it on Monday or Tuesday.\nD: Do you have a lunch date of shall we just talk\n?\nK: Well, let me see what my schedule is.\nD: Okay. I'll call you on Monday to see.\nK: Good. I am going to upgrade the representation at the European\nSecurity Council.\nD: You are?\nK: Yes.\nD: Anything new on the Middle East after your conference with Dayan. ?\nK: Not yet. I'm going to meet with him again tomorrow morning. Can I\ncall you? I think we are making some progress. Its not yet good, but\nit isn't as bad as I was afraid it might be.\nD:\n.\nnot very useful in the political area. Okay, Henry. I'll\nbe in touch with you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMr. Hyland/ Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n4:25\nK: How are you?\nH: I'm fine.\nK: Have you made a decision on what you want?\nH: I would still rather take the State Department job.\nK: OK, then I'll appoint you on Monday.\nH: When do you want me to come on?\nK: After we get your security clearance -- in about 2 weeks.\nH: Fine. It will be announced on Monday ?\nK: Does that surprise you?\nH: Well, I have been getting strange phone calls from the Department\nof State.\nK: About what?\nH: Oh, my biography and security clearance.\nK: We'll announce on Monday. I don't want you to administer that\nplace. I want you to shape it.\nH: Are you going to be at the White House tomorrow.\nK: May be.\nH: Well, if you have a couple minutes I would like to talk with you.\nK: Why don't we aim for about 11:30\nH: OK.\nK: I'll need intelligence that is , that will give me a feeling for the\nForeign press and what the mood is in the country.\nH: We'll do that immediately.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nK: I have confidence in you and want to get you involved.\nH: I have been looking over the organization and think we can\ngive you exactly what you need in terms of\ninformation.\nI'll see you tomorrow.\nK: Good, let's aim for it.\nH: Good, thank you, I appreciate it.\nK: Not at all. I am being selfish. I don't do these things as a favor.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nGeneral Scowcroft/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n6:02 PM\n(Missed the first part)\nK: They can wait a week, I'm not all that definite.\nS: I told him to press on as fast as they can.\nK: I talked to Fulbright.\nS: I think one of the main ones is the FBI check.\nK: He was just appointed as Director General when he\nhad a full check.\nS: With him, I don't know. I think a good part of the\nproblem is Timmons. A lot of other things are\n.\nK: They do nothing but push papers around. We can't make\nthe announcement on M\n.\nS: Not necessarily. I don't know about Davis.\nK: If I can't announce Davis, I can't announce the Assistant\nSecretary either.\nS: That's true too. Let me check. Let me see.\nK: I've had Abshire looking at it. I had everyone here\nlooking at it.\nS: I'm going to call Timmons.\nK: As soon as I can I'm getting him on the phone.\nS: There isn't any FBI problem on it.\nK: And for\n, get him off my back.\nS: I don't know if there's a problem with the Sisco, Porter\nthing. With Davis, I understand. Somebody said you wanted\nDean on Monday.\nK: No, not at all. But I did want Dean soon. What is the\nproblem?\nS: Schlesinger wants me to pull\nout now.\n.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nK: They say Dean is very good.\nS:\nit may be at the end of the dry season.\nK: I can't wait that long.\nS:\nis more important than the country.\nK: That's nonsense. You know L is running around Israel\nsaying we don't\n.\nS: It sounds like something he'd say. Did you mention it\nto Dayan?\nK: See what you can do about the Davis thing.\nS: OK.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nGeorge Vest/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n6:12 PM\nK: What is that thing Donaldson is telling me.\nV: The story they have is the President is following up on\nthe energy action\nforeign minister meeting called\ntomorrow. That is the story he has.\nK: Just when were in the progress of formulating our program.\nWhere do you think he got it?\nV: I'll see if I can find out any more.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMarvin Kalb/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n6:42 PM\nK: I have every reason to get you off the air, now.\nMK: Get me off the air? On the morning news?\nI don't believe it.\nK: What was the story?\nMK: We both wanted to do the\n.\nK: That's what I figured would happen.\nMK: Wonderful conference I had with my boss. I'll be\nworking all of next week. Give me two months off to work\non my book.\nK: I'll see you Sunday.\nMK: Thank you so much. Goodby.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER IA\nON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nBill Timmons/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n7:50 PM\nK: Bill, how are you? Bill, I want to talk to you about\nthe man I want to appoint as Assistant Secretary for Congressional\nRelations.\nT: I've some concern about him. I understand he's a career\nman.\nK:\nT: I don't know what Congressional background or experience\nhe has.\nK: He's probably the best Foreign Service officer I've got.\nHe wants the job. He's extremely intellectual. Probably the\nbest Foreign Service officer around. I think he would learn\nthe job very well. If Marshall Wright could do it, for\nGod sake.\nT:\nSANITIZED\nWe're familiar with some of the career people.\nThere's an awful lot of technicalities on who can\nand\nwho can't. I just question whether he can do the job properly.\nNaturally I hope to work closely with your Congressional guys.\nK: In that respect you would have no problem at all.\nT: Of course I never heard of him. Jerry Jones called me\ntoday to clear him. I asked if he was career.\nK: Only because I couldn't find anyone else. I spent 4\nmonths looking for someone.\nT: You're entitled to somebody that can get along with you.\nK: I would say good. If I tell Nat Davis he's got to take\nhis marching orders from you, there's no question that\nhe'll do that.\nT: All those guys on the Congressional\ntry to do\n.\nK: That I can guarantee you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nT: I'd like to meet him. Have him or have Larry Eagleburger\ncall me and come over for a cup of coffee.\nK: Tonight or tomorrow morning?\nT: Tomorrow morning would be best.\nK: I'll have him give you a call.\nT: OK, thanks.\nK: OK, Bill.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nNat Davis/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n7:58 PM\nK: I'm running into a little static at the White House.\nI forgot to clear you with Timmons. Would you mind going\nto see him in the morning. Would you call him tomorrow?\nD: Certainly, I'll do my best to do what he wants. As long\nas it's what you want.\nK: Make him think that you're taking him seriously and\ntaking me seriously. That you're the President's man.\nD: Yes sir.\nK: If you'll call him in the morning, I'll appreciate it.\nD: Call him about 9:00?\nK: What?\nD: Should I call him about 9:00 in the morning?\nK: Yes.\nD: Yes sir.\nEND.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nPresident Nixon/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 4, 1974\n8:12 PM\nN: Hello, Henry.\nK: Mr. President. I just wanted to bring you up to date on\nthe meeting with Dayan. We spoke about Israel .\nWe're\n75% of the way at last. We made very good progress. Have\nto the depth of the zone. I haven't talked to the\nIsraelis. The Israelis are willing to be at the West end\nand the Egyptians want them at the East end. That's a\ndifficulty that\n.\nWe're now talking about the same\nplan with just different numbers.\nN: Good, Henry. That's very good.\nK: I think we have a chance now of making some progress.\nI'll report to you after the meeting tomorrow.\nN: You're meeting with him again?\nK: Yes. So we know what's happening, when and where.\nN: That's fine, Henry, just fine.\nK: Every paper including the Star has a headline that you're\nin full control of Foreign policy.\nN: Eventually, they have to write it.\nK: We never could get it printed.\nN: Why do you think they're printing it now. It's a curious\nthing, isn't it.\nK: The Washington Post has a separate story on the first\npage, with a big headline \"Kissinger says Nixon in full charge\".\nThe New York Times had a big print of it's story on the subject.\nN: The main thing is that it's all working.\n.\nK: I think we can handle that.\nN: I followed that one in those reports.\nK: We think you should have it.\nN: I know. I wouldn't both you with it. You will let me\nknow. I'm just thinking of you. It's still in the dry\nseason. They hung on this long.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nK: We can already begin to\nif they got to the middle\nof May they could make it.\nN: The make slow progress here. The energy\n.\nK: We can get some other equipment in there and\nN: Part 2 of the energy thing played well. A lot of people\nare asking, \"What is the President planning\".\nK: I think we would make your proposal thing next week on\nthe energy action group. We want those letters out so we\ncan release them.\nN: You got out just in time. It's going to rain here for\nthe next few days.\nK: I'll call you tomorrow to report to you.\nN: You're feeling all right?\nK: I feel fine, Mr. President. Those four days did me a\nworld of good.\nN: Now if we can find time to get you back out here.\n.\nDon't let them corrupt you again.\nK: I'm going to a Chinese Restaurant with Nancy and let them\ncorrupt me.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nScowcroft/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 5, 1974\n3:40\nK: After telling me he would, that is just no way of doing.\nS: That is his way of getting his pound of flesh.\nK: That may be but now I can't make the announcement.\nS: Yes,\nis meeting with Davis is off til Monday.\nK: That's right\nS: I'll see if he can meet with him and then we can make the\nannouncement.\nK: How can we? I have to tell.\nS: That's right, one other thing. Have you talked to Colby about\nHyland?\nK: Why?\nS: Well, for two reasons. Hyland belongs to him and secondly,\nit is one of the major intelligence jobs.\nK: Well, the let's just hold up all of the appointments til Tuesday.\nS: Colby is a decent guy.\nK: Well, it has been known for two weeks that I was to ma ke these\nappointments.\nS: I don't think so.\nK: Well, it has been known here and I am sick and tired of it.\nS: Well,\nK: You give me two reasons why Marshall Wright was acceptable\nand not Nat Davis.\nS: Well one reason is the way Marshall Wright turned out.\nK: But they still haven't come up with anyone in four months.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nNLN09-16/12512 Per Hr. 11/20/2012\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library By 114/H NARA, Date 11/4/2016\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n- 2 -\nS: I have seen what he has and I am not enamored with any.\nI'll see what I can do but if they are not going to get together til\nMonday, then we can't announce it.\nK: So it is out except for Sisco and Porter.\nS: Yes, and Pickering.\nK: How, because Pickering gets Davis's job and Springsteen's getting\nPickering's job.\nS: Yes, well you may be better off waiting til Tuesday for all of\nthem.\nK: Yes.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nC05830312-\nSANITIZED COPY\nTelcon\nSANITIZED\nBill Colby, CIA/Secy Kissinger\nEO 13526 3.3(b)(1)>25Yrs\nJanuary 6, 1974; 11:25 a.m.\nEO 13526 3.5(c)\nK: Hello, Bill, I wanted to talk to you about\nI would like to\nappoint him as head of INR.\nC: Sounds fine.\nK: And I don't assume this would give you any heartaches.\nC: No, I think that would be great. He's a natural choice.\nK: He knows you very well.\nC: Yeah.\nK: He knows the Agency very well.\nC: I think it would be great.\nK: Good.\nC: Any others?\nK: No.\nC: Scowcroft is looking at one of our fellows to come down and help\nhim on the Intelligence function for him.\nK: Who is that?\nC: A fellow named\nwho has been working on\nHe's a very good fellow.\nK: Good.\nC: I think Scowcroft is sort of considering whether he wants the job or\nnot.\nK:\nis considering it.\nC: No, Scowcroft.\nK: Oh, Scowcroft is considering whether he wants the fellow.\nC: Whether he wants to have the job or not, I think.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 13526, Section 3.5\nBy R) NARA, Date 11/30/2016\nReproduced at the Richard COPY Library\nSANITIZED\nDECLASSIFIED\n12513\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nC05830312\nCU5UY8167\nSANITIZED COPY\n-2-\nK: Yeah.\nC: But anyway, that's all right. And I have designs on one of your people.\nK: Who?\nSANITIZED\nC:\n3.3(b)(1); 3.5(c)\nK: My God, no. We've got him tied up in a new assignment. What do\nyou want him for?\nC: Well, I wanted to make him the Economic National Intelligence\nOfficer. He would organize the whole community for us.\nK: I've just had a brawl with Schlesinger on him.\nC: Oh, really?\nK: No, we're making him Joint Deputy to me and to Flanigan.\nC: Scowcroft told me you were thinking of that.\nK: Yeah.\nC: Well, otherwise.\nK: Well, I'm impressed that my associates share my judgment of\nmy people.\nC: [laughs] Well, he's first-class. I worked with him on Vietnam.\nK: He is outstanding.\nC: He has the brilliant capability of talking about economics without\ntalking about economics - which I think is pretty critical.\nK: Okay.\nC: Well, I think that's great.\nK: Nice to talk to you. Bye.\nSANITIZED COPY\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nBill Timmons/HAK\n11:31; 1/6/74\nK:\nBill.\nT:\nYes.\nK:\nI thought you were going to see Nat Davis yesterday.\nT:\nWell, I got tied up, Henry, and I scheduled a meeting with him at\n9:00 in the morning on Monday.\nK:\nO.K. Good, because I.\nT:\nWe're going to get together and have coffee and\nK:\nBecause I would like, want to announce him tomorrow. I can slip\ntoday.\nT:\nWell, I got tied up on something for\nK:\nThat's alright.\nT:\nOn the West Coast and we chatted on the phone a bit and\nK:\nNo, no, that's fine. But I want you to know that his strict instructions\nfrom me are going to be in the closest association with you and the\nreason I'm picking him is, I was thinking of him as Under Secretary to\ntell you how highly I thought of him. As Under Secretary for Political\nAffairs. And I wanted to pick my highest type fellow who's going to\nbe good on substance. His instructions will be to get his strategy from\nyou, but I will need your advice anyway because this isn't a field in\nwhich I know a hell of a lot.\nT:\nHenry, have you done any consultations on the Hill about Nat?\nK:\nWell, the only thing I've done is with Fulbright.\nT:\nUh huh. He's not curious about Aiken and Frelinghuysen and some of\nthose, but they probably know of him if they don't know him personally.\nK:\nWell, should I call them do you think?\nT:\nWell, let's wait till tomorrow.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nK:\nWell, why don't we put it off until Tuesday, then, Bill.\nT:\nO.K., I understand this is part of a package so you have to do them\nall\nK:\nWell, that's my problem, that I have somebody that I want to move out\nof the Executive Secretary's job to take his place, and then I have\nsomebody out of another job into the Executive Secretary's place.\nT:\nYeah, a kind of dominoes.\nK:\nThat's right. So I have to hold up all the other appointments.\nT:\nWell, I'll call you after I talk to him in the morning.\nK:\nNow, Bill, I don't want to impose this on you, but if you want to call\na few of these Congressmen yourself, just to show your relationship\nto it but also to give me a feel, I'd be glad to divide it up with you.\nT:\nYeah. The thing that worries me a little bit is that the Republicans that\nwe have to count on when the crunch gets going on the Hill, rather than\nthe Democrats, I'm afraid they are going to be a little reluctant because\nof Nat having served as Sergeant Shriver's deputy and got most of his\npromotions in Lyndon Johnson's White House, and I think he's going\nto be suspect to them, certainly in the early days.\nK:\nHad he been Sergeant Shriver's deputy? No, he was on the staff of\nthe Peace Corps.\nT:\nWell, I haven't talked to Nat directly but I understand that he\nover\nto the Sergeant's deputy, now he might have had several deputies. At\nleast I think that's going to give some of our Republicans some concern.\nWell, we'll chat after I talk to him in the morning.\nK:\nGood. O.K.\nT:\nBye, bye.\nK:\nBye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nSen. Javits/HAK\nJanuary 6, 1974 ( 11:40 a.m.\nK:\nHello.\nJ:\nGood morning, Henry.\nK:\nJack, welcome home.\nJ:\nAnd a Happy New Year to you.\nK:\nHappy New Year. Sorry I missed you in Acapulco.\nJ:\nWhat a shame. Everybody was expecting you The Escadangs were\ndevastated.\nK:\nWell, I.\nWhy were they devastated? They could use their house.\ngo\nJ:\nI know, but they were all set to/elsewhere and they'd have been so\nhonored with you.\nK:\nWell, I'll be down eventually.\nJ:\nWell, Mary had talked about it and, you know, said what arrangements\nshe was making. She was so proud that you would come down and use\nit. We missed you because we knew it would do you good.\nK:\nOh, it would have been great. But first I didn't feel well\nJ:\nOh you didn't?\nK:\nNo. I came back with the flu and\nJ:\nListen, you and I have to have a very special talk about your physical\nconditions. You know, in this respect I have the\nto dictate\nto you.\nK:\nI wish you would.\nJ:\nI'm very serious about it because you know I'm almost twenty years\nolder than you are and I think I'm in a hell of a better shape than you\nare.\nK:\nThat's right.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nJ:\nI'd like to, you know, talk to you about that because in the first\nplace you'll have more fun out of life as you go along, and in the\nsecond place you're too good a man to run yourself down the drain\nunthinkingly. On that score, you know.\nK:\nWell, I'd like to see you apart from getting advice on my physical\ncondition.\nJ:\nListen, I'm the maddest tennis player and athlete alive.\nK:\nI know it. In fact, I'm told in Acapulco that you two are trying to time\ntheir visit so that you're not there because they don't mind playing with\nyou in the morning but I understand you track them out on the tennis\ncourt in the middle of the day.\nJ:\nThat's bad. (laughter) Oh, I'm not that bad.\nK:\nI forget which Mexican told me that they were in awe of you because\nnot only did you play every day, but you played in mid-day.\nJ:\n(laughter) That's wonderful.\nWell, Henry, you've been doing lots of things. Have they been going\nwell?\nK:\nThey've been going well. You know, we're sitting on a powder keg.\nJ:\nI know we are.\nphase\nK:\nAnd in this stage now at last the Israelis have understood that we're\nsaving them rather than destroying them.\nJ:\nYes. And I think you've got a better relationship now with the people\nof the country and you know, that's very, very important.\nK:\nYou mean the Israelis or the Americans?\nJ:\nWell, the Americans. I think that's worked around very well. I\nthink you stand well and I\nYeah, I really do, I think that there are\nalways a few sign posts but politically my - as I smell the wind - it's\nvery good as it stands now and especially as ;you begin to make a team\nof the Department, which is, I think the very, very big objective, one\nof those objectives which nobody will give you a medal for but which\nwill make you a historic Secretary of State.\nK:\nWell, I agree with you.\nJ:\nYou know what I mean? If you stand on their shoulders, which they are\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-3-\nmore than willing you should do, but those shoulders have to be stout\nand strong.\nK:\nWell, you know, my problem isk has been that after I became Secretary\nI was immediately thrown into the Middle East crisis. But now I've got\nall my people appointed and Bill has been very good about confirming\nthem. So I think within two weeks of the Congress coming back all my\ntop people should be confirmed and then I have my own team in there.\nJ:\nVery good. I hear Sisco's staying.\nK:\nSisco is staying. We are going to announce him tomorrow or the day\nafter, as Under Secretary. Do you think that's a good appointment?\nJ:\nVery good. I think especially with you he will draw enormous resource\nfrom the confidence you will vest in him. He's a man who flowers and\nblossoms if confidence is vested in him. And he gets very conspirator-\nial if it's drained away.\nK:\nThat's a very sharp observation.\nYou are right.\nJ:\nYou see, it works in reverse with Joe.\nK:\nIn fact, that was one hesitation I had about appointing him because I\nhad just seen ;his conspiratorial side. But I have now recognized him,\nXX in his travels with me that if you work closely with him he is really\nvery loyal. He\nJ:\nNot only is he loyal, but you know, he isn't kidding me. He's got\ndamn good standing with the Arabs. And he's earned it, which is all\nO.K. You know what I mean? And he values it highly, too, which\nis good too.\nK:\nNow, Jack, I'm thinking of appointing somebody in charge of Congres-\nsional relations who's a bit of an off-beat appointment. It's Nat Davis.\nI don't know whether you know him.\nJ:\nI know a little bit about him.\nK:\nHe was our Ambassador in Chile. He's the youngest career minister\nwe've got. He was in the Peace Corps with Shriver and when our\nAmbassador to Guatemala was killed when LBJ was President, he\nvolunteered to go down there as Ambassador. I've had him back here\nas Director General of the Foreign Service. He's so good that if\nSisco hadn't stayed I would have made him Under Secretary. But I\nthought it would be better to have somebody with substantive knowledge\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-4-\nHe can always learn about the Congress but maybe I'm wrong there.\nJ:\nCan I be exposed to him?\nK:\nWill you be exposed to him?\nJ:\nI say, can I be exposed to him?\nK:\nSure. Are you in town tomorrow?\nJ:\nI will be tomorrow.\nK:\nWould you like to meet him?\nJ:\nYeah. Shall I just call him, or will he call\n?\nK:\nI'll ask him to call you.\nJ:\nAlright. I'll see him late in the afternoon.\nK:\nGood. Wonderful.\nJ:\nThat's great.\nAnd, Henry, do we need to talk about\nanything?\nK:\nWell, let's have breakfast. We don't need to talk except, I mean we\ndon't need to talk on an emergency basis.\nJ:\nWell, is tomorrow morning agreeable to you, because I'm coming\ndown tonight.\nK:\nIs that the only day you're in town?\nJ:\nWell, I could be in town Tuesday morning but it would interfere with\nthe doctor's appointment I have at Bethesda. I could rearrange that.\nK:\nBecause I have made an appointment which I could probably change.\nJ:\nWell, if you can change it, fine. But if you can't, if you have your\noffice leave a message on this phone I'll do it Tuesday morning and\nrearrange my appointment at Bethesda.\nK:\nO.K. Could you do it early, as we have staff meeting at 8:00.\nJ:\nOr even earlier.\nK:\nLet's do it at 7:45.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-5-\nJ:\nQuarter of eight. Where? At your office?\nK:\nYeah.\nJ:\nI'll see you then.\nK: Good.\nJ:\nNow if there is any problem just leave a message.\nK:\nIf you don't hear from me we will meet at 7:45.\nJ:\nGood. Marion sends love.\nK:\nSend her mine.\nJ:\nGood and I'll see you tomorrow.\nK:\nGood.\nJ:\nGreat.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Kissinger/Joe Sisco\n1/6/74 12:20 p.m.\nK: Joe, I already got what I called about.\nS:\nI sent it over a little after 11:30\nWas it all right?\nK:\nI had to change two paragraphs;if you don't get better than that Joe\nI'll--\nS:\nDo you suppose I'm relaxing?\nK:\nI think you are slipping a bit\nNo it's very good. I changed the end a little bit.\nS:\nYou noticed what I was trying to do- I thought I was being very subtle\nin that last paragraph.\nK:\nNo, no you did very well. I'm just spelling it out a little more.\nWhat is your thinking now that you had a chance\nS:\nI still think we've got to go and in view of the fact that Fahmi is leaving\naround Friday for Moscow I think we ought to be shooting for Wednesday\nmyself\nK:But I think Fahmi should put it off\nS:\nThat's a little embarrassing, but I bet he sends you back a message\nin the next 12 or 24 hours saying- of course we struck that sentence\nout, so he doesn't know we're\nK:\nBut I told Eilts to raise it when he gets there\nS:\nAnd he won't get there until tomorrow night and won't see Fahmi until\nTuesday so I think on Tuesday, we'll get a big scream from Fahmi that\nyou do it right away.\nK:\nYeh, Okay. Bye.\nS:\nHave a good day.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMr. Hummell/Sec. Kissinger\n12:20 p.m.\n1/6/74\nK:\nArt, your maniacal Japaneseclients have gone off the reservation\nagain. Tanaka has made a statement rejecting my criticism of\ntheir pro-Arab policy\nH:\nHm huh.\nK:\nNow, when the hell did I criticize their pro-Arab policy.\nH\nI don't know that you ever did.\nIs this a news ticker?\nK:\nYeh.\n(end of tape0)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nDean Rusk/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 6, 1974\n12:45 PM\nK: The President said he was going to call you back and he thought I\nwas going to call you. It was decided that your view was probably the\nright one and not ask you to serve.\nR: I got that view more strongly since there's a chance ru be called as\na witness.\nK: I'm trying to keep the investigation confined to allegations of domestic\nspying. That would have presented no problem.\nR: That's bound to get to me.\nK: Then it will get into areas it isn't a question legality, it's how much\nof the thing they'll pull out.\n*\nR: You mentioned something immoral. Can you tell me what you referred\nto.\nK: Some claims I made about Dominican Republic and attempts on Castro.\nR: There's xxx no problem as far as I'm concerned. I explained a\npolitical assassination was contrary to the policy of the U.S.\nK: I happen to believe it's against national interest. First to investigate\nmatters like this, I think we won't have an intelligence agency left.\nR: Some things should not be confused. The Director of the CIA\nchairman of an intelligence committee and that included the FBI. I used\nto get every morning a whole series of rap ups. I have no doubt that some\ncame out of the FBI material.\nK: Some of the domestic files from CIA and are FBI reports.\nR: You have a good many in the State Department files on State Department\npeople. I think it's unwise from the Presidentis point of view to have me\non. I'm certainly going to be a witness and it's better not to have one of\nthe witnesses who might be pummeled very hard by the Congress to members\nof the panel.\nK: That was our view. I still would like to get you together with the\nPresident.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nRusk - page 2\nR: That fellow who resigned from the CIA. I never heard of the guy.\nOne thing I suspect the panel might ask of the President and the Secretar y\nof State and the Secretary Xx of Defense we should have given more to\nthe CIA. I never looked at the CIA budget. That was worked out by the\nDirector and the Director of the Budget. My guess is that 3 key members\nof the NSC should look at those things.\nK: It's clear that excessive * supervision hasn't been adequate. I\nnever knew they had a domestic branch. I never heard of Angleton. He's\nsaying I got him fired. I had no idea the guy existed.\nR: Has the announcement of the members of the panel been made?\nK: Yes.\npresent\nR: forthsome point somebody should make it clear the President that all/or and\nswxx/members of the NSC will be available to the panel for any assistance.\nThat would include all of us.\nK: I see. I really think we should separate illegal activities and domestic\nactivities and we should not have this an open season on covert activities.\nR: There's a piece of paper lying around during the Truman administration\nwhich was a treaty between the CIA and the FBI regarding their respective\njurisdictions.\nK: When are you coming through here again?\nR: Let me look and see what my present commitments are. I have to go\nand visit Lady Bird this week. I don't have anything schedules to come up\nJanuary. I could come there at the end of the (first)\nweek in February on my way to Princeton.\nK: Why don't you do that.\nR: I'll get in touch with you.\nK: OK. Do that.\nR: My best to the President.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nSecretary Kissinger\nLew Wasserman\n1/7/74; 10:37 a. m.\nK: Hello.\nW: Hello, Henry, how are you?\nK: How are you, Lew?\nW: I was just checking to see if you have any interest in seeing that\nfilm tomorrow night in Washington.\nK: Tomorrow night?\nW: Yes, sir.\nK: Let me see. Probably yes.\nW: Well, I am coming in on the afternoon plane.\nK: Wednesday isn't possible for you?\nW: Yeah, Wednesday is possible if that's when you want to see it.\nI can change it and make it Wednesday if you prefer. Tomorrow would\nbe more easier.\nK: How late in the day can I let you know?\nW; Tomorrow?\nK: No, today.\nlate as\nW: Today. As/you like, Henry. Just have your office call mine.\nK: All right. I'll call you before the end of my day.\nW: Very good, S ir.\nK: To let you know whether tomorrow or Wednesday would be better.\nW: Fine, Henry. If you like we can dine right at the Association. You\ncan bring anyone you like.\nK: Terrific.\nW: It will be very private.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nSecretary Kissinger\nLew Wasserman\n1/7/74; 10:37 a. m.\n-2-\nK: Good.\nW: So you can get an evening of relaxation.\nK: That will be great. So we will do it either tomorrow or the day\nafter.\nW: Fine, Henry.\nK: Thank you very much, Lew. It was nice to see you last week.\nW: It certainly was nice and I hope everything is going well.\nK: It is coming along fine.\nW: Good.\nK: I'll see you tomorrow or the day after.\nW: Fine, Henry.\nK: Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmb. Dinitz - Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 7, 1974\n11:55 a.m.\n(missing first part)\nD:\nthe speculation must be leakage from the government.\nK: Of course it is leakage from the government.\nD: Already this morning I have talked to people and in reading\nthe papers.\nTold them to try to stop this because this could\ncreate speculartion in the international press.\nK: Exactly, not to speak of San Clemente.\nD: I know, I didn't want to tell them this, but this is what I had\nin mind.\nK: Can you shut them up?\nD: I think so. I have already I am doing something and I will\ntry again. The point is the the speculation is already going on, it\nis difficult now to do something\nnot 100% helpful.\nK: How late in the day can I see you?\nD: At any time.\nK: Good. I will be in touch.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNIXON PRESIDENTIAL MATERIALS PROJECT\nDOCUMENT CONTROL RECORD\nITEM REMOVED FROM THIS FILE FOLDER\nSANITIZED\nA RESTRICTED DOCUMENT OR CASE FILE HAS BEEN REMOVED FROM\nTHIS FILE FOLDER. FOR A DESCRIPTION OF THE ITEM REMOVED\nAND THE REASON FOR ITS REMOVAL, CONSULT DOCUMENT ENTRY\nNUMBER 5 ON EITHER THE DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD\n(GSA FORM 7292 OR NA FORM 1421) OR NARA WITHDRAWAL SHEET\n(GSA FORM 7122) LOCATED IN THE FRONT OF THIS FILE FOLDER.\nA sanitized copy substituted for an original item which\nContains information restricted under the Privacy Act.\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION\nNLN FORM 101 (revised 6-85)\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHaig/Sec. Kissinger\nMonday, January 7, 1974\n3:05 p.m.\nK: We have got to have the Italian President come over. They\nalready know it and it will be an uproar if he does not come.\nI think it will do the President some good.\nH: I do to but he was really tough on it. I did not know it was\nalready locked in.\nK: They had already been told and they are trying to announce it\nand we told them it was difficult and they are offering us fifteen\ndays later which does not solve the basic problem.\nH: All right, I will go back in with all of the great pleasures\nI have.\nK: Secondly, you know I want to appoint Nat Davis as the\nAssistant Secretary for Congressional Relations and you know\nhow highly I think of him. Timmons at first raised holy hell.\nHe wants his guy Stan Anderson who we did not appoint once before\nbecause he is too young. He says he is withdrawing his opposition\nbut he wants to register his complaint. He says Davis knows\nnothing about Congressional relations which is true. I want\na top flight man there. He is probably one of the top five\nForeign Service Officers. He was on every list we had for\nUnder Secretary. I want the ablest guy we can find who will\norganize it. I think it is a big sacrifice for Davis to accept\nit. He can hirer some political people. I have no other\nsuggestions.\nH: I will talk to Timmons about is. He has not talked to me\nabout it.\nK: Could you get it overruled today so we could announce it\ntomorrow. Two other appointments are based on that. If I\nwant to make a change in the Ex. Secretariat I want to move him\ninto Davis' job as Director General.\nH:. O.K.\nK: It is not doing Davis a fovor but he is by far the best\nForeign Service Officer I could possible move into that job.\nThere is no political person. I don't think it is that hard to\nfind out what goes on in Congress if the man is willing to do\nthe work. Compare him to Marshall Wright for Christ's sake.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n2.\nHaig\nJan. 7\nH: Yes.\nSANITIZED\nNot really.\nK: Look. It is in my interest to have the strongest possible\nman in Congressional Relations.\nH: I am sure I know what Timmon's problem is. He wants\none of his own people.\nK: Right.\nH: And a political appointee and not an FSO. I don't know\nwhat he knows about Davis.\nK: He met him and he is very impressed with him.\nH: I will talk to him.\nK: Call me back this afternoon so we can proceed.\nH: Sure.\nK: Also get me the Italian accepted will you.\nH: I will do my best.\nK: I know you have such a tractable guy out there.\nH: If I get you an Italian it may cost you an Irishman.\nK: That is too high a price. Are you in trouble too?\nH: You mean still.\nK: Did you get my memo yesterday.\nH: Yes. It is very helpful but I have had no calls on it.\nK: I may have to trigger it tomorrow. You had better get\nready for that.\nH: I can go with Leone today.\nK: Leone and Davis. I have to make the announcement tomorrow.\nTell him it will be announced in San Clemente.\nH: O.K. Henry.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmbassador Dobrynin - Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 7, 1974\n3:50 p.m.\nD: Hello.\nK: Hellow Anatoly, how are you.\nD: Fine Henry. You are a very difficult man to reach.\nK: I've had a very hectic day.\nD: What you are doing?\nK: Well, I've had a meeting on MBFR all morning.\nD: Yes?\nK: We concluded if you abolish all FS-9s that would withdraw\nonly half your troops from Europe and we will give you MFN.\nD: Let's discuss that, how about tomorrow?\nK: Okay, I will call you first thing in the morning.\nD: You will really call?\nK: Okay, let's fix a time. Are you implying I don't, wouldn't\nsee you.\nD: No, no, Henry.\nK: 5:00 ?\nD: Tomorrow? 5:00 o'clock? Its quite all right with me.\nK: Yes.\nD: Is there anything new on the wonderful Middle East business?\nK: I think I should have something tomorrow from the Israeli\ncabinet.\nD: Tomorrow ?\nK: At least to discuss.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nD: Okay. 5:00 o'clock, at the State Department, yes ?\nK: If that's all right with you. When are you going back to Moscow ?\nD: I don't know, that's in suspense. I'm just waiting.\nK: Do you have a message from me, or do you just want to\nD: No, they just asked me to discuss with you on Middle East\nbusiness -- on the organizational\nside.\nK: Okay. Let's discuss it.\nD: 5:00?\nK: Let's have a good -- I mean let's have an hour and just review\nthe situation.\nD: Okay, that would be nice really.\nK: See you than.\nD: 5:00 o'clock, thank you very much.\nK: Bye.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nMr. Sisco/Secretary Kissinger\nJanuary 7, 1974\n6:50 PM\nK: I think you should call him or see him today and tell\nhim to let me know\n. In the discourse of my discussions\nin Cairo.\n.\nS: There's a very good chance that he's come in since.\nAt the fifth meeting the Israelis did a very good job.\nI can do it in any event. I think they had a good deal\nof talks on this in J 24 hours ago.\nK: Send me that report.\nS: I'll send the report up to you.\nK: OK, Good.\nS: I think I'll call Ghorbal in the morning. I'll send the\nnumber of the report to you wright away.\nK: Fine.\nEND\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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