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Dean Rusk
Secretary Kissinger
1/8/74; 10:10 a. m.
R: How are you?
K:
Okay, Dean
R:
Hope you won't mind two very quick gratuitous remarks.
One--have you been down to the 9:00 Wednesday morning session of
the House of Representatives yet?
K:
No, but I'm planning to do it.
R:
That to me is a great opportunity to build up a constituency that could
be very valuable to you. And in general, my experience has been with
them that if you tell them that something should be held privately, the
the record in the House is pretty good on that.
K:
That's been my experience when I met with them--the leadership
and with the foreign affairs committee which I've done severaltimes.
R:
Well, I used to go down to that Wednesday morning meeting two or three
times a session, but under the present circumstances in Washington
these days, you might want to consider going maybe every six or eight
weeks or so, because it is really a very important constituency to nurse
and I just pass that along for what's it is worth.
K:
I'll do it as soon as they get back.
R:
Now the other point, I don;t want you to comment in any way on the phon
certainly, but I heard on the radio news just a few minutes ago that the
XXX Washington Post was saying that we had submarines within the
3 mile limit in the SUnion. I would hope if there is any possibility that
sort of thing happened, it would be scrubbed and not run the risk of ano-
ther U-2 incident. When suggestions like that came to me during the
I
vetoed them because on the grounds that the President, the
Secretary of State, arethe principal customers for that sort of informatic
and we have less interest in the information to be derived than we had in
the policy involved and methods used to get it.
Don't let another U-2 incident occur.
K:
To the best of my information, Dean--but I'm looking into it, we are
doing nothing that was not done in the previous administration as far as
distances are concerned. But SO any restrictions you put on, I think
would still be valid. But I would like to talk to you about it.
R:
I coming up next week for the Law of the Sea Conference advisory
Committee.
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