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TELECON Secretary Kissinger/Ambassador Dinitz January 30, 1974, 10:33 p.m. D: I have just seen you at the Joint Session of Congress. K: How did you like my speech? D: I thought it was good, especially the part you wrote. I think he could have done without the last part. K: caused me about not listening to coercion. D: No, Mr. Secretary, I was driving back from Congress with Vivian -- and I told her the sentence about we won't be coerced was put there by the Secretary. K: Put by the Secretary is no expression. It XX took me a week until 3:00 this afternoon. Mr. Ambassador, I have been in close touch with the Egyptians about your obstinacy. D: That's not the right K: You people believe in the continued possibility of miracles. D: No. K: Let's not argue now. If the Egyptians produce for you the number of prisoners -- not the names, but the number -- would you then be willing to make some sort of proposal and with the understanding that when the negotiations start you get the list and the Red Cross? D. Some proposition to you? K: Which we would then pass on through the Egyptians to the Syrians. D: of course, I will pass it to Israel, but I would tell you what I would suggest as a matter that would be acceptable, I think. If we can say, as I am trying for the last two days to sell my Government, and I did not succeed K: I don't want to argue. I'm just filled with despair as a friend and admirer of Israel. D: Mr. Secretary, I will tell you what I have in mind, but the important thing is what I was trying to get Israel to do -- that they would authorize me to tell you that we are prepared to

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