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    "ocrText": "-4-\nD: But I wanted SO much to get across to you. We are not\nstubborn on this. But the prisoners will become pawns and\nhostages.\nK : But now we have a little movement. Can you -- when\nyou're not a Marxist, you can be very ingenious. Get your\ngeniuses there -- seriously -- if you can get the number,\nyou have something. I don't know whether I want to be in\nthe position of passing on the merit. That worries me a bit.\nD: Yes. May I correct it a bit and say this -- that you get\nthe number, you pass us the number, then Dayan comes here,\nthen he gives you the proposal but doesn't authorize you to\ntransmit. Once he does it, before you pass it on, you get\nfrom the Syrians a promise for the Red Cross visits and then\nyou pass them the proposal. What the people in Israel are\nafraid of is that once we will pass the proposal to you, then\nthe Syrians will use our prisoners as a leverage on us.\nK: I will have a proposal?\nD: You will have a proposal which will bait them.\nK:\nThe only thing that I then require is that you make the\nSO that if I pass it on, I won't be totally dis-\ncredited. Make it as serious\nD: I think we will make a serious proposal, but it won't be\nanything like the Syrian proposal.\nK:\nlimit of your endurance. I'm not even going to\ndiscuss the Syrian proposal. Not even a provision for a UNEF\nin Syria -- you need a UNEF. You couldn't have the Syrians\nwithin artillery range of the Galilee.\nD: I tell you the truth. At this stage our concrete thinking\non the matter -- because my Government doesn't even trust me.\nK :\nI have a theory.\nD:\nWhat?\nK: My theory is that they don't have a proposal.\nD: That could be -- but they will have. It may take about\ntwo weeks -- it won't be overnight. Well, we have to get the\nO.K. from the Government. I want to tell you the mood there\nis very very bad -- the families -- it's a Jewish state, let's\nface it."
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