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    "ocrText": "Page 4\nR:\nGood, could you do that, because the other part I just don't want\nyou to have to worry about--there are number of little things that\nshould be fairly important\nK:\nAnother thing I want to talk to you about--you know that all say you\nare the chairman of the establishment, it may not be exactly true,\nbut that you are the chairman of the trilateral commission\nR\n[laughs]\nK:\nI really think we must take a look at our relation with XXX Europe.\nWe are now seeing on the energy issue exactly as we did on the Atlantic\ndeclaration and nobody can say we are not consulting with them\nthat we are not cooperating - we are offering them things for nothing.\nWe want nothing from them except cooperative efforts.\nR:\nI really think this may be one area where I could be helpful.\nK:\nI\ntell you if this conference next week goes the way Deckexixskex the\nFrench\nare trying to steer it, and the other 8 have again caved to the French,\nthen we have to reassess our policy. We cannot go on this way.\nR:\nI am very disturbed by it.\nK:\nBecause in the energy field, we want nothing from them, except\nnot to pursue bxxxtrx thy neighbor policies. They can do next to nothing\nfor us. If the French bought all the oil that they need at present prices\nthat wouldn t cut into our needs and they would be bankrupt in 15 months\nSO there isn't anything that bothers us, but we would then be in 1947 after\n25 years of effort.\nR:\nI just cannot imagine why they are doing it. One reason I wantedto\ncall you was that I saw Walter Levy at the Council and he is apparently\nworking with Bill Donaldson--will be down there--he is not happy that\nthe papers are being prepared and I thought you should know he is concerne\nabout our position.\nK:\nOur position is too soft in his view.\nR:\nYou might want to talk with him--he is really good.\nK:\nHe is outstanding-\nR:\nHe told me he was really rather unhappy with what was but--\nK:\nOkay, let me talk to him today--\nR:\nI think if you have a chance--at least to find out the nature of his concern"
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