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I mean the very people who were accusing us of being warmongers,
insensitive, immoral, and 5 thousand other things, now think we are
not tough enough on the Russians.
G:
Absolutely, but this is what it's all about.
K:
The people who thought we were too tough on the North Vietnamese
say we are too soft on the Russians.
G:
That's right. But, Henry, how do you get anywhere in this country
how do you get any of these things said?
K:
I think we are heading into a third republic state. We are going to
become ungovernable. The press is going to be our parliament.
G:
What can be done?
K:
I don't know.
G:
But this is it.
torn
K:
You know, they're not going to rest until they've/ me down.
G:
Well, again, and you know some people imagine that I write this
way because of a personal relation with you. It has nothing to do
with you.
K:
I know a clash with Europe won't do it because the Europeans are
going to collapse on us before it's done. They haven't got the nerve
to continue it.
G:
Again, who is going to collapse first there?
K:
The Germans, the Dutch. You know, we're going to kill the Davignon
committee and nobody1s going to make a decision anymore without
checking with us.
G:
Yeah, but the bigger thing, Henry, is that there is one kind of theme
that is coming through from the left all the way over to the right.
I
mean not all the way over to the right, whatever the right is, but
it is one kind of opinion and you cannot get another thing said. And
again one thinks of trying to start something new, but what do you do -
you can't start a new newspaper, you can't start a new journal. It
would take years to build it up. But there is simply no outlet for a
certain kind of opinion. What you just said about whether it's Third
Republic or not, that's another matter.
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