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Mr. Kissinger/Ambassador Dobrynin
6:35 p. m., July 30, 1971
- 4 -
D:
Without an agreement on ABM, you won't accept anything?
K:
I don't want to be in the position where one agreement is
completed. But they can go a few more weeks on ABM. If we can
have an understanding that after a few weeks, they will begin discussing
offensive weapons.
D:
It's a question of substantial things triggering it.
K:
As long as we have it understood it will not be after the conclusion
of an ABM agreement, but once we have decided some of the sites.
D:
I am not in a position to say what is first or second. I will
send to Moscow this notification. We should go through now agreement
government to government. And there will be progress simultaneously.
I will put it this way.
K:
That's right. One other piece of information, strictly for your
information. The British have told us they would slightly prefer to
suspend Berlin negotiations for the month of August for a vacation.
We have told them we want to continue and we believe X they will accept
our recommendation. Our position is we want to continue the talks.
D:
I understand.
K:
It is the White House position which will prevail. And I have
communicated this to Bahr. I wanted you to know that. We are
sticking to the schedule.
D:
Thank you very much.
K:
That last point treat with special confidence.
D:
All right. Thank you.
lds
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