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K:
That if they go, they should lean in the first instance toward
air. That if air is insufficient, (that's principle 4) then ground action
would have our support. (5) That ground action, however, to be
effective
that ground action must be strictly limited to Jordan.
It cannot expand to Syria or, even less, into other countries. However,
air action in Syria would be understood.
P:
Yeah, they have our support. You missed one -- the second
there, where I said that the
State the first principle; then, the second
one is
K:
The first principle is it must succeed. The second principle is
it must succeed not only militarily but also politically and diplomatically.
P:
That's right.
K:
And then, the third is air action is preferred.
P:
Air action alone is preferred from all standpoints, if it will work
militarily.
K:
Right; if that is not sufficient, ground action would be supported;
and the fifth principle is that it should be
P:
that ground action should be confined to Jordan alone.
K:
Exactly.
P:
See, this is the problem that I had with Joe Sisco's principle
of where they just go up that road and cut off the bastards. See, that
road involves an invasion of Syria, so
K:
Mr. President, I couldn't agree more.
P:
You see, it puts Israel in the same position. Let me say, I just
assume
these things I raised for you myself.
they'd go to Damascus.
For Christ's sake, if they start doing that, the Russians then have a real
cause. They want this deserter to be Jordan to help
K:
then resisting the invading army in Jordan.
P:
Yeah, yeah. Now, I don't mean that we have a Yalu River
concept or anything of that sort. And I understand the other, but in
other words, this puts it all in the terms of what it is; the first principle
so give him that and five principles. I've decided it. Don't ask anybody
else. Tell him "go. 11
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