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9-21-70
TELCON
5 am - - 1 10 am
Mr. Kissinger
The President
(and Haig )
9/21/7,C19702
about 645 am
K:
Mr. President.
P:
Yes.
K:
I have Haig on the line because he has listened in on most of the
other conversations - in case you have any questions and in case
I am not exactly accurate, he can correct me.
P:
Okay.
K:
I have been talking to the Secretary of State and to Mr. Laird.
Laird is basically with the decision. He just wanted to check some
of the Defense Department Intelligence to make sure that the
situation is as bad as we believe it is. Bill has two views:
(1) he feels we ought to have a meeting of your principal advisers
and (20) he raises a number of objections such as if the Israelis
are/going to move before tomorrow morning anyway, why do they
have to know now? Why don't we wait until during the day to make
our final decision? Well, the answer to that is that they are
committed once they start mobilizing. They have to mobilize
in order to do this. And if we put it to them on this basis - of
course if things happen during the day, we can always go back
to them but -- (interrupted by P)
P:
That doesn't mean anything. It is alright for him to raise it.
We can always go back to him. But I understand - that is just
a delaying tactic.
K:
Exactly. And (interrupted by P)
P:
Just putting off until tomorrow what you have to decide today.
K:
Then he says there is no evidence that the Syrians are moving
south. This is true but the estimate now is 300 tanks. We
just checked recent intelligence. There is also another indication
and I don't know how reliable that intelligence is. A1, do you
know how reliable this information is?
H:
This is an Israeli report.
K:
That the Iraqis are getting ready to move and we have had a
new appeal from the King which says that we have his advice
DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958, as amended, Sect 3.5
NLN 05-03/9 pa ltr 19 Dec 2007
By CIM NARA, Date I Apr 2009 [p. 1if3]
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