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TELECON (tape)
Mr. Kissinger/Mr. Yoshida
Late evening, November 24, 1970
Y:
I'm sorry to disturb you. Have you.
K:
Well, I've had a very preliminary talk and we haven't had
a final talk yet which we'll have in the morning. But I can tell you
what my recommendation is going to be. I think we should break
off the negotiations. It isn't worth it. I don't think this is an
acceptable proposal and I don't think we want to undermine the
domestic position of your friend any further. I don't see.
I don't
the proposal does us any good, and it won't do him any good.
Y:
Yes, I understand that this is your recommendation, but also
I'm thinking of the prestige of your friend.
K:
Well, that's all right now, but this proposal won't help the
prestige of my friend, and the alternative proposal is going to over-
throw your friend, SO there isn't any sense in it.
Y:
Yes.
K:
So I think
Well, I will see, maybe my colleagues believe
we should accept your proposal. I think it's a mistake but.
Y:
I am going to see my friend probably for the very, very final
decision whether we should, from our side, make major concessions
to meet your needs on how you feel. At any rate, I share your feeling
to break off with minimum
K:
I think at this point all the negotiations do is irritate both sides
and weaken the domestic position of both sides.
Y.
That's right.
K:
And I don't see any sense in it, myself, any more. So I'm
going to see, maybe, if my colleagues would accept it (which I doubt)
but that still is not going to help my friend any.
Y:
That's right.
K:
If they objected, it would be to have an excuse to do something
about the trade bill for the wrong reasons. But I will decide that
tomorrow and why don't you call me at the end of the morning tomorrow.
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