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The President -- March 21, 1971, 10:00 a. m.
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they just must do it and they've got to go through with that; that is, that I
strongly urge that they do it. Now, let's find a way to do it -- go in with a
thousand men even, or whatever they are going to do.
K:
That's right.
P:
Now, can that be
Can you tell them how strongly I feel that they
must do it. Put it not on the basis of the situation here, but on the basis of his
own
XXXXXXX political situation that the news here will eventually filter back
there and that that will make his people think that they suffered defeat. So the
thing you've got to do is to give them another whap.
K:
Right; it would totally confuse our critics here, and it would give the
other side a shock, Mr. President.
P:
HELL, YES. They've moved a lot of stuff there.
K:
Oh, yes; that's where they should have gone to begin with, but that was
probably a mistake for them to head for Tchepone. That's where they should have
headed; it would have given them more debts, but that's all water over the dam.
P:
Yeah, yeah. But Abrams
Now, how does Abrams actually feel about.
How does he personally feel?
K:
Moorer's view is Abrams feels very confident. He asked him is there any
panic; is there any defeatism; has the combat capability
all the questions you
asked me to put yesterday, and that I had already put to Bunker. He said none --
that the morale is very high; they haven't the slightest sign of defeatism. He said
he was worried about our end here.
P:
God, there's none here. It's only the crap that comes out of there.
K:
Exactly. And so,
P:
But he knows these stories are pouring back in here about running and
panic.
K:
Oh, yeah. Moorer has kept him.
That's what he was referring to.
He wasn't referring to the leadership here. He mentioned a number of units
that they had moved back during the day (their day, our night), and he said
everything had gone in good order. So as of 8:15 this morning, he seemed
very confident. And actually the news stories aren't running so badly.
P:
That's all we want to know. Well, these news stories go up and down.
Television will be taking a whapping, but nevertheless, Henry, it's how it
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