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    "ocrText": "TELECON (Tape)\nThe President -- March 21, 1971, 10:00 a. m.\nBrought in 3/22, page 5\ncomes out. I just\nIf Abrams feels confident, then I'll be a little more\nconfident tomorrow night. You see my point?\nK:\nI think you should give an impression of confidence and serenity,\nMr. President.\nP:\nWell, I'll do that, but I mean if I know it's going to come off pretty\nwell\n-- let me put it this way: the thing that we always forget here is that\nwe are so God-damned honest -- Johnson, of course, just lied, deliberately\nlied about the whole thing. And McNamara lied at Johnson's direction. Now,\nwe have never lied. I will never lie; I can't live with that. On the other hand,\nI know psychology and, therefore, we've got to look ahead and point out this\nthing. And we've also got to knock down the lies of the other side. They are\nlying all the time about this.\nK:\nAbsolutely. I think that Abrams believes, Moorer believes that this\noperation in total was a considerable success for us and I think we ought to\nstress that. Even that New York Times writer says it set the other side back\nby several months.\nP:\nThat might be a good\nXIXIXgX thing to quote, 'as so and so wrote in the\nNew York Times, and he's probably correct, XXXXXXXX that it set the other\nside back several months.\nK:\nI'11 get you the correct quote. I'll get you the right reference.\nP:\nGet the name of the fellow -- as he said in the New York Times.\nQuoting the New York Times is a real slap in the face at the leftists.\nK:\nRight. I'll get that typed up for you and send it.\nP:\nIf it's any good, we'll use it. All right, now, as far as anything else\nis concerned, the main thing is I think the psychological -- Thieu has a\npsychological victory to win. He's got to give them one more whap -- you know,\nanother whack. And Abrams does not foresee a debacle this week then?\nK:\nAbsolutely not. As of this morning, absolutely not, but I'll make triply\nsure\nP:\nBefore Monday.\nK:\nbefore Monday evening."
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