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TELCON
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Mr. Kissinger/Secretary Laird
6:30 p.m., December 5, 1971
L:
On the India-Pakistan border thing, that's what I was concerned about.
K:
No, no; what I want but that isn't a criticism, is an hour by hour
breakdown so that we can figure out who started what the first day.
L:
Oh, yeah.
K:
But I have no complaint about what's been produced.
L:
Well,
DIA are getting that all lined up and by, you know,
all the
everything else and I think that will be
K:
What is your judgement of the situation as long as I've got you on
the phone.
L:
Well, I think that there's not a hell of a lot that we can do about it
right now. I think India can walk through there if they want to in a
week, you know in two or three weeks on the East.
K:
Yeah.
L:
And I think we just got to make the best kind of a case, the toughest
one we can make and that's about all we can do, Henry.
K:
But tilt it against India.
L:
Yeah, oh, sure, absolutely.
K:
Because that's what the President wants.
L:
Well, we should too. My God, we should.
K:
Because you know, if a Soviet-Indian cooperation there can just
brutalize another country, then we are going to see that in a lot.
L:
Well, you'll see it going on all over that area too and I think we have
got to make the case. I think everything's been done right so far;
we got to keep going that way.
K:
You know the President has called a meeting for 1:30 tomorrow with
the same group that handled the Middle East things but you'll be gone.
L:
You think I should wait?
K:
Well, you know, if you
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