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- 3 - TELCON The President/Mr. Kissinger P: Right. K: So they are going back at it again today. P: To get a Resolution that they can all approve. K: Right, which will be impossible unless it's anti-Pakistan because the Russians will veto it. P: see. K: If it's anti-Pakistan, the Chinese will veto it. P: (Laughter) You know, this, Oh, Boy. But anyway, you feel a little better about what our position is. K: Right. Now, what the Russians this morning have launched a blistering attack on Pakistan in TASS and in affect, have warned the Chinese against getting involved. What we are seeing here is a Soviet-Indian power play to humiliate the Chinese and also somewhat us. P: Yeah, yeah. K: I think we ought to have a meeting of some of your key advisors tomorrow. I know you've got your day pretty full with the television taping. The reason I mention it is because Rogers has been talking about how we are sacrificing; he's on this Chinese kick again. P: Sacrificing what? K: Well, our position to China and he wants a careful consideration; what good do all these moves do. Of course, the opposite -- P: What move would he make then himself? K: I asked exactly this question. He says he is just raising questions, he's not giving answers; these are questions he wants to have considered. P: Okay, I'll consider them. K: I think if we don't, there will be leakages that we just acted impetuously. P: Well, let's see we could do something around -- K: You've got him on the schedule at 2:30 anyway.

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