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7 K: Well, Ziegler's statement said the President has been following this hourly. At 10:30 this morning after receiving the latest report he gave the go-ahead to the State Department to take the case to the Security Council. The President is dismayed by the use of Indian troops in Pakistan and then he was asked, "Does that mean you are giving up your neutral role in this conflict? And he said it means that the Indians have said they are now on an all out invasion of East Pakistan and this we have always said that the American people would not understand. And that played very well, very strong and Sisco is playing off that. P: Now how did Sisco handle it? Did he do what you told him that I told him he was to do this? K: Exactly. Well, at first he didn't want to do it and Rogers didn't want him to do it, but then when they saw the Ziegler thing which featured your role then they decided they better get some State Department line out too. P: Is that what did it? K: Yes. Which is OK. We don't want them to. P: Of course, you got the Ziegler played, that was very good. K: Right. P: And then Sisco did give a good backgrounder? K: He did give a good ba ckgrounder citing chapter and verse of all the things the Indians have refused to do: no UN observers, no acceptance of the. P: Did he also cite what we have done - that we have given $250 million in aid and all that. K: Oh yes, oh yes. P: We're getting all that across, are we? K: Yes, and anything that needs to be done I can do Monday morning. P: I think what probably needs to be done, that Monday you may have to give - basically, rather than having a white paper put out; that what you ought to do is look over the facts very, very carefully and then go out and give a hard hitting briefing.

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