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Van der Beugal/Kissinger
9:26 a. m.
9/22/70
-2-
V: If that is the pinnacle of our hope, where are we going?
K: It look S a little better and we have acted strongly.
V: We are moving from a complete overestimation to a complete underestimation
and now possibly to normalcy on this country.
K: We have taken some strong actions in the last few weeks and the President
isn't easy to be pushed off course. We have quieted down the VN outcry.
V: It isn't even in the news. I always met a lot of political bastards here and
it's striking how different the atmosphere is. It's a completely different atmos-
phere. They don't love Washington but they see it more
now.
In
May we had the feeling of a country falling apart but XXXX no longer.
K: After all, Cambodia has worked. VN is out of the news. Soft policies on the
M. E. have been discredited.
V: The only thing that is an absolute non-entity is Europe.
K: We will turn to that after we are above water.
V: I cannot give you any hopeful prediction about Europe. It's a parocchial
non-existing community. Led by dopes or operators.
K: How about the new British Government?
V: I have great confidence in Heath but he is not on the map. Maybe that's his
style. A man of enourmous integrity, brass takks and courage.
K: Maybe just not a little.
V: How is Nancy?
K: Fine.
V: And you are in good shape. You are coming to Europe with the President?
K: If it comes off.
V: That's only the South.
K: Yes but London, October 3.
V: That's a rush visit. I will be here in December and I will come down.
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