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135 TELECON V-34 Mr. Sisco/Mr. Kissinger 9:50 p.m., September 22, 1970 K: - possibility of a reply. S: What's your thoughts? K: I asked you first. S: I think that we ought to go back in the course of tomorrow and first we ought to make a judgment that we give to them -- before I say what we say, let me tell you what the problem is. The Jordanian point of view and from our point of view, we are trying to get the king to do this by himself. If not by himself, in order for the Israeli's to be responsive in order to be helpful to the King and yet with the least possible adverse repercussions to this. If the situation warrants our presence, will be nothing there on down but the Israelis or if they need help from the Jordanian point of view, minimal air strikes as a way to help Hussein do the job himself. Now from the Israeli point of view, Israelis getting the Syrians out and if need be hold on to a certain chunck of territory for a certain period of time as the best way to assure against Israel/Iraq The Jordanians are thinking much more in terms of an Israeli strike in areas. The Israelis are thinking much more in terms ??? as a way of achieving the withdrawal of forces. I have overstated both positions for obvious reasons for purposes of clarifying our own thinking. ??? have said that looking at the situation tomorrow morning and if we ??? to the Jordanians. We should continue the dialogue with the Israelis. K: How do you continue the dialogue? S: Answer their questions, keep the option and try to facilitate a get together between the Israelis and the Jordanians. We agree in principles but we ought to know before they go and we ought to know [the results]. Ought to be responsive to the Jordanian request. K: How much more clear can they be than air request? S: Read the Annenberg cable about Hussein's complaint about the fedayeen. K: It is conceivable S: It is conceivable but not certain. Are you sure in your own mind DECLASSIFIED E.O. 12958, as amended, Sect 3.5 NLN 05-03/34 pu ltr 19 Dec 2007 By CIM NARA, Date 1 Apr 2009 Ip.182]

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