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On December 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Daniel P. Moynihan, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:05 pm to 6:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 631-008 of the White House Tapes. Topics include: The President met with Daniel P. ("Pat") Moynihan and John D. Ehrlichman. United Nations [UN] - Ambassador - India/Pakistan - Israel India–Pakistan - War [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2012-003. Segment declassified on 04/16/2015. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [631-008- W001] [Duration: 17s] India–Pakistan - War - Daniel P. ("Pat") Moynihan's opinion - The President's opinion on Indian desire for war India–Pakistan - War - Withdrawal - Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan - Talks with East Pakistani leader - Location - Calcutta - Indira Gandhi - Trip [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2012-003. Segment declassified on 04/16/2015. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [631-008- W004] [Duration: 27s] India–Pakistan - War - Destruction of ships - East Pakistan - West Pakistan India–Pakistan - War - East Pakistan - Refugees - Military operations - Possible duration - Cleanup in East - Duration - UN - Indian elections [?] - East Pakistan - Partition [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2012-003. Segment declassified on 04/16/2015. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [631-008- W005] [Duration: 1m] India–Pakistan - War - Movement of forces into West Pakistan - East Pakistan - Bengal - Ability of Indians to conquer West Pakistan - Possible length of war - People's Republic of China [PRC] - Pressure on West Pakistan United Nations [UN] - George G.W. Bush - Praise from Moynihan - Unknown Stalinist - PRC representatives -[Forename unknown] Jackson [?] - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] - Moynihan's schedule - Secretary General [U Thant] - Max Jacobson - Agha Sadruddin Khan - Maurice Strong - Canada - Environment concerns - Chances to become Secretary General - Jacobson - Background - Jewish descent - USSR - Arabs Arab- Israeli dispute - Unknown person - Background - Saudi Arabia Secretary General - President's view - U Thant - Possible asylum - Burma - Unable to return - Bush - Moynihan's upcoming conversation with Bush - Agha Sadruddin Khan - Youth - Friendly to the Administration - Yahya Khan's brother - Iranian passport - Zanzibar - Education - Harvard University - Qualifications - Jacobson - USSR - Arabs - Importance of selecting the Secretary General - Type - Strong - Support from the President - People's Republic of China [PRC] - USSR - Sadruddin Khan - Security council - Refugee reports Busing issue - Politics - Constitutional amendment - Civil rights issue - James S. Coleman - Effects on children - North compared to South - Moynihan's view - Civil rights movement - Consequences - Possible damage to race relations - William H. Rehnquist - Constitutional amendment - Possible perception by Blacks - Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education - January 1969 - State of the nation - Decline in confidence - Whites - Majority - Degree of wellness individually - Discouragement over the future - Large percentage believe country is "worse off" - Studies - Brown decision - President's accomplishments - Integration - Supreme Court - Dual school systems in the South after Brown decision - Percentage - Percentage during the Nixon Administration - North - Dual school system - Non- Existent - Ethnic community schools - Neutral - Ethnic pockets in the North - Court decisions - Learning about the education process - Courts are usually proven wrong - Brown decision - Difficult to prove in court - President's message to Congress on education, March 1970 - Style of messages - Timing - Cambodia - Congressional action - Moynihan's previous telephone conversation with John W. Gardner - Dual school system - National requirements - Schools' performance - Lower class students - More choice - Expenditures - South - National Institute of Education [NIE] - Education bill - Progress - Possible results - Dual school system - Possible elimination Particular methods tried - New York Times - H.L. Mencken quote - Race relations - Hostility in schools - Elementary and secondary - Blacks - Jews - Local control - New York City - Tax brackets - John V. Lindsay - Re- Election chances - Public schools - Parochial schools - Financing - Domestic Council - British - Dutch - French - Canadians - Australians - Consequences - Possible Constitutional amendment - End of the dual school system - Alexander M. Bickel paper - John N. Mitchell - New York Times - Increase in elementary and secondary school population during the 1970s - Teachers - Increase - President's instructions - Education bill - Possible Congressional action - Moynihan- Ehrlichman meeting - Comparison to revenue- Sharing - Senate - Tax bill - Wilbur D. Mills - Check off - Bickel letter - New era of education - National Primary and Secondary School Educational Opportunities Act of 1972 - Busing and desegregation - California and Michigan decision - Compared to the President's People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative -1967 - Neil H. McElroy Commission -[Forename unknown] Serrano [sp?] - Congressional action - President's instructions to Moynihan - Bickel letter - New era - Possible support from Blacks - Race relations - Potential speech from the President - Leadership - Reassurance - Desegregation - Progress since 1969 - Dual school system - Congress - McElroy Commission - Duration - Moynihan's suggestions - National institute [?] - March 1970 - Emergency school aid - Finances - School vouchers - Opportunity for children - Experiments - California - Legal decision - Florida - Possible changes - Property tax and value added tax - Private schools - Blacks - Reassurance - Symbolic gesture by the President - John N. Mitchell quote - Ideal school system - Choices - Legislation - Bickel arguments - Busing is symbolic - New era of education - Busing and desegregation - Declare peace - Federal money - Equality of education - Inequality in educational opportunities - California decision - Serrano [sp?] - Intelligence Quotient [IQ] scale - Comparison - Asians, Europeans, Blacks, and the Irish - Unknown person - Education bill - Preamble - Equality of educational opportunity - Moynihan's suggestions - Measure of outputs - Property tax bill - Education bill - Special interests - National Education Association [NEA] - Private compared to public schools - Moynihan's suggestions - Moynihan's talk with Ehrlichman - Bickel - Brown decision - How to present - Brown brief - Tax system comparison - Change - Idealistic overtones - Honesty - Parochial schools - Segregation and busing - New era - Bringing people together - Choices - No inferior education - Right of every American to a superior education - Presidential leadership - Generosity - Dual school system - George C. Wallace - Polls - Articles - Letters - Moynihan - Note to H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman - Jews - Chinese - Work ethic - Richard Herrnstein - The President reads from a letter - Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew] - Mitchell - Herrnstein's article - Nathan Glazer - Further discussion - Allegation - Coleman Economy - Taxes - Unknown person - Money supply BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/11/2019. Segment will remain closed.] [Personal Returnable] [631-008- W002] [Duration: 49s] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 Moynihan left at 6:08 pm. Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] legislation - Veto - Votes - Number - Child care - Gerald R. Ford - Ronald L. Ziegler - Timing - Veto - Continuing resolution - Conservatives - Seeking credit BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/11/2019. Segment will remain closed.] [Personal Returnable] [631-008- W003] [Duration: 34s] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 Busing - Alexander P. Butterfield - Moynihan - Position - Compared to Bickel - Idealism - Comparison to Vietnam - Revenue sharing - Tax bill Ehrlichman left at 6:10 pm. Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Moynihan, Daniel P.; Ehrlichman, John D.

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On December 7, 1971, President Richard M. Nixon, Daniel P. Moynihan, and John D. Ehrlichman met in the Oval Office of the White House from 5:05 pm to 6:16 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 631-008 of the White House Tapes. Topics include: The President met with Daniel P. ("Pat") Moynihan and John D. Ehrlichman. United Nations [UN] - Ambassador - India/Pakistan - Israel India–Pakistan - War [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2012-003. Segment declassified on 04/16/2015. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [631-008- W001] [Duration: 17s] India–Pakistan - War - Daniel P. ("Pat") Moynihan's opinion - The President's opinion on Indian desire for war India–Pakistan - War - Withdrawal - Agha Muhammad Yahya Khan - Talks with East Pakistani leader - Location - Calcutta - Indira Gandhi - Trip [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2012-003. Segment declassified on 04/16/2015. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [631-008- W004] [Duration: 27s] India–Pakistan - War - Destruction of ships - East Pakistan - West Pakistan India–Pakistan - War - East Pakistan - Refugees - Military operations - Possible duration - Cleanup in East - Duration - UN - Indian elections [?] - East Pakistan - Partition [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2012-003. Segment declassified on 04/16/2015. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [631-008- W005] [Duration: 1m] India–Pakistan - War - Movement of forces into West Pakistan - East Pakistan - Bengal - Ability of Indians to conquer West Pakistan - Possible length of war - People's Republic of China [PRC] - Pressure on West Pakistan United Nations [UN] - George G.W. Bush - Praise from Moynihan - Unknown Stalinist - PRC representatives -[Forename unknown] Jackson [?] - Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] - Moynihan's schedule - Secretary General [U Thant] - Max Jacobson - Agha Sadruddin Khan - Maurice Strong - Canada - Environment concerns - Chances to become Secretary General - Jacobson - Background - Jewish descent - USSR - Arabs Arab- Israeli dispute - Unknown person - Background - Saudi Arabia Secretary General - President's view - U Thant - Possible asylum - Burma - Unable to return - Bush - Moynihan's upcoming conversation with Bush - Agha Sadruddin Khan - Youth - Friendly to the Administration - Yahya Khan's brother - Iranian passport - Zanzibar - Education - Harvard University - Qualifications - Jacobson - USSR - Arabs - Importance of selecting the Secretary General - Type - Strong - Support from the President - People's Republic of China [PRC] - USSR - Sadruddin Khan - Security council - Refugee reports Busing issue - Politics - Constitutional amendment - Civil rights issue - James S. Coleman - Effects on children - North compared to South - Moynihan's view - Civil rights movement - Consequences - Possible damage to race relations - William H. Rehnquist - Constitutional amendment - Possible perception by Blacks - Brown vs. Topeka Board of Education - January 1969 - State of the nation - Decline in confidence - Whites - Majority - Degree of wellness individually - Discouragement over the future - Large percentage believe country is "worse off" - Studies - Brown decision - President's accomplishments - Integration - Supreme Court - Dual school systems in the South after Brown decision - Percentage - Percentage during the Nixon Administration - North - Dual school system - Non- Existent - Ethnic community schools - Neutral - Ethnic pockets in the North - Court decisions - Learning about the education process - Courts are usually proven wrong - Brown decision - Difficult to prove in court - President's message to Congress on education, March 1970 - Style of messages - Timing - Cambodia - Congressional action - Moynihan's previous telephone conversation with John W. Gardner - Dual school system - National requirements - Schools' performance - Lower class students - More choice - Expenditures - South - National Institute of Education [NIE] - Education bill - Progress - Possible results - Dual school system - Possible elimination Particular methods tried - New York Times - H.L. Mencken quote - Race relations - Hostility in schools - Elementary and secondary - Blacks - Jews - Local control - New York City - Tax brackets - John V. Lindsay - Re- Election chances - Public schools - Parochial schools - Financing - Domestic Council - British - Dutch - French - Canadians - Australians - Consequences - Possible Constitutional amendment - End of the dual school system - Alexander M. Bickel paper - John N. Mitchell - New York Times - Increase in elementary and secondary school population during the 1970s - Teachers - Increase - President's instructions - Education bill - Possible Congressional action - Moynihan- Ehrlichman meeting - Comparison to revenue- Sharing - Senate - Tax bill - Wilbur D. Mills - Check off - Bickel letter - New era of education - National Primary and Secondary School Educational Opportunities Act of 1972 - Busing and desegregation - California and Michigan decision - Compared to the President's People's Republic of China [PRC] initiative -1967 - Neil H. McElroy Commission -[Forename unknown] Serrano [sp?] - Congressional action - President's instructions to Moynihan - Bickel letter - New era - Possible support from Blacks - Race relations - Potential speech from the President - Leadership - Reassurance - Desegregation - Progress since 1969 - Dual school system - Congress - McElroy Commission - Duration - Moynihan's suggestions - National institute [?] - March 1970 - Emergency school aid - Finances - School vouchers - Opportunity for children - Experiments - California - Legal decision - Florida - Possible changes - Property tax and value added tax - Private schools - Blacks - Reassurance - Symbolic gesture by the President - John N. Mitchell quote - Ideal school system - Choices - Legislation - Bickel arguments - Busing is symbolic - New era of education - Busing and desegregation - Declare peace - Federal money - Equality of education - Inequality in educational opportunities - California decision - Serrano [sp?] - Intelligence Quotient [IQ] scale - Comparison - Asians, Europeans, Blacks, and the Irish - Unknown person - Education bill - Preamble - Equality of educational opportunity - Moynihan's suggestions - Measure of outputs - Property tax bill - Education bill - Special interests - National Education Association [NEA] - Private compared to public schools - Moynihan's suggestions - Moynihan's talk with Ehrlichman - Bickel - Brown decision - How to present - Brown brief - Tax system comparison - Change - Idealistic overtones - Honesty - Parochial schools - Segregation and busing - New era - Bringing people together - Choices - No inferior education - Right of every American to a superior education - Presidential leadership - Generosity - Dual school system - George C. Wallace - Polls - Articles - Letters - Moynihan - Note to H. R. ("Bob") Haldeman - Jews - Chinese - Work ethic - Richard Herrnstein - The President reads from a letter - Vice President [Spiro T. Agnew] - Mitchell - Herrnstein's article - Nathan Glazer - Further discussion - Allegation - Coleman Economy - Taxes - Unknown person - Money supply BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/11/2019. Segment will remain closed.] [Personal Returnable] [631-008- W002] [Duration: 49s] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 2 Moynihan left at 6:08 pm. Office of Economic Opportunity [OEO] legislation - Veto - Votes - Number - Child care - Gerald R. Ford - Ronald L. Ziegler - Timing - Veto - Continuing resolution - Conservatives - Seeking credit BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 07/11/2019. Segment will remain closed.] [Personal Returnable] [631-008- W003] [Duration: 34s] END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 3 Busing - Alexander P. Butterfield - Moynihan - Position - Compared to Bickel - Idealism - Comparison to Vietnam - Revenue sharing - Tax bill Ehrlichman left at 6:10 pm. Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Moynihan, Daniel P.; Ehrlichman, John D.
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