On January 31, 1972, President Richard M. Nixon, Stewart B. McKinney, John D. Ehrlichman, and Ronald L. Ziegler met in the Oval Office of the White House from 4:04 pm to 5:05 pm. The Oval Office taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 661-009 of the White House Tapes. Topics include: The President talked with Stewart B. McKinney. [Conversation No. 661-9A] [See Conversation No. 20-9] John D. Ehrlichman entered at 4:05 pm. Ronald L. Ziegler entered at 4:06 pm. [End of telephone conversation] Press relations - Representation on People's Republic of China [PRC] trip - Joseph C. Kraft, William F. Buckley, Jr. - Telephone calls from Henry A. Kissinger - Ziegler - Conservatives, liberals - Timing - Announcement of the President's telephone call to Abraham A. Ribicoff - Elliot L. Richardson - Ehrlichman - Russell B. Long - The President's support for welfare reform - The President talks with Long and Wallace F. Bennett - Need for common ground - Ehrlichman - Richardson Ziegler left at 4:10 pm. Welfare reform - The President's previous telephone call to Ribicoff - Content - Reference to working paper - Ribicoff amendments - Elderly - Ehrlichman's forthcoming telephone call to Ribicoff - Status of welfare reform bill - Ribicoff view - House Resolution [HR] 1 - Senate - Testing - Medicare, Medicaid - Drawbacks of bill - Daniel P. ("Pat") Moynihan - Richardson - Size of welfare rolls - Medicare - Medicaid Mall renovation - Picture of model - Lincoln Memorial - Reflecting Pool - Proposed facilities - Dining, shopping - Pool - Parking - Trains - Boats, canals, lakes - Ampitheatre - Children's park - Lake - Cost - Finishing date - Bicentennial - Benefits - Museums - Needs of visitors - Restrooms - Food - Night activities - Thelma C. ("Pat") Nixon - Rogers C.B. Morton - Visit to see model - Possible ideas - Model - Confidentiality - Interior Department - Architect - Morton's view - Congress - Capital Planning Commission - Highway plan - Spending - Needs - Tourism - Concessions - Types - Food services - Family orientation - J. Willard Marriott - Transportation - Lake size and depth - Other uses - Exhibits - Japanese art - Nathaniel A. Owings - Plans Environment - The President's conversation with Laurance S. Rockefeller - Julie Nixon Eisenhower as salesperson - New York - Houston - Florida - Proposed conference - Location - Camp David - San Clemente - Russell E. Train - William D. Ruckelshaus role - Rockefeller's associates - Gala to focus attention - Options - Camp David constructions - Laurel - Open house - Problems - Press - San Clemente - Key Biscayne - San Clemente - Benefits - San Francisco park at Point Reyes - Possible visit by the President - Quality - Possible meeting - Daniel L. Schorr job - Attendance - Timing - Moscow trip - Location - San Clemente - Patio - Air Force One trip to Point Reyes - Television use - Documentary - Compared to comments by President - Train role - Ruckelshaus role - Rockefeller role - Mrs. Nixon, Tricia Nixon Cox and Julie Nixon Eisenhower role - The President's schedule - California - Camp David - Benefits - Camp Hoover - Press - Centennial of national park system - Morton's view of the President's schedule - Morton - Forthcoming talk with Ehrlichman - Rockefeller's role - Environmentalists in attendance - Republicans - Edmund S. Muskie's supporters - Environmental accomplishments - Parks for the people - Public relations - Unknown person - William L. Safire Mall renovation - Likeness to Tivoli Gardens - Environmentalists' view - Grass removal - Underground parking - Effect on watertable - Peripheral parking - Trams - Mrs. Nixon - Viewing of mall model - Decision on original model - Viewing of mall model - The President - Owings - Need for necessities - Restroom, facilities - Old world - Disneyland [and Disneyworld] - Facilities - Miami Beach - Jews - Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo view Modern entertainment - Children - Old entertainment - Amos n' Andy - Fred Allen - State of television - The President's viewing habits - News shows - Reading - Television specials - Camp David - Television compared to reading Ehrlichman's reading - Zimmerman Telegram -[Thomas] Woodrow Wilson - Barbara Tuchman - Henry A. Kissinger - Wilson Wilson's foreign policy - Mexico - Francisco ("Pancho") Villa - Winston Churchill description in the Search for World Order - Versailles - Wilson's political experience - Compared to British politicians - Irony - Record - World War I - British casualties, March 21, 1918 - Effort at mediation - Lack of realism - Henry Cabot Lodge - Theodore Roosevelt - League of Nations - Congressional fights - Partisanship - Republicans - Wilson speeches - First inaugural address - Wilson writings - Fourteen points - Speeches The President's speeches - Quality - Press - Inaugural address - The President's Vietnam peace proposal speech, January 25, 1972 - Preparation - November 3, 1969 speech - State of the Union address, 1970, 1972 - Eloquence - Written compared to spoken word - Abraham Lincoln - Gettysburg address - Second inaugural address - Speechwriters - Douglas L. Hallett - Raymond K. Price, Jr. - Patrick J. Buchanan - Radio speeches - Price - Time to prepare - The President's efforts at writing - Cambodia - Vietnam - Time consumed - Effect - Inaugural address - Value compared to time consumed in preparation - Effect - Toasts - Extemporaneous talks - The President's talk to Cabinet - Abraham Lincoln - Congress - Repetition of speeches - Lincoln's A House Divided speech - Cross of Gold speech by William Jennings Bryan - Congressman or Senate - Compared to presidential candidate - Stump speech Narcotics appointment - Myles J. Ambrose - Prospects for success - Local police problems - Corruption - Resentment of federal officials - Overall benefit Law enforcement - Changing of Earl Warren court - Effect - Restoration of balance - Changes - Process - Average person's desires - Federal role - Effect on urban areas Busing - Constitutional amendment - Ehrlichman trip to Camp David - Complications - Timing - Previous Supreme Court decisions - Hearings - Timing - John N. Mitchell - Elliot L. Richardson - Vernon E. Jordan, Jr. view - Urban League - Communications with Ehrlichman - Welfare reform testimony - View of allies [Previous PRMPA Personal Returnable (G) withdrawal reviewed under deed of gift 08/05/2022. Segment cleared for release.] [Personal Returnable] [661-009- W005] [Duration: 5m 55s] Busing - Vernon E. Jordan, Jr. view - Political outlook - Democrats' view - George S. McGovern - Edmund S. Muskie - Stand with the President Domestic politics - Democratic Party caucuses - Iowa - Arizona - Edmund S Muskie showing - Delegates - Action compared to substance - Loss of support - Young people and minorities - John V. Lindsay showing - Chicanos - Edmund S. Muskie prospects - George S. McGovern prospects - Delegates won - Caucus - New York Democratic Party organization - Eugene J. McCarthy prospects - Fourth- Party candidate - John V. Lindsay - Edmund S. Muskie - Political strategy - Running mate - Moderate southerner - Southern states - George C. Wallace - George C. Wallace's plans - Stay a Democrat - Fourth- Party run - Edmund S. Muskie strategy - Running mate - Liberal - John V. Lindsay - George S. McGovern - Challenges facing Democrats - John V. Lindsay on ticket - Problems - Nelson A. Rockefeller view John B. Connally - Health - Telephone call to Ehrlichman - Classification meeting - Governors' meeting - Property tax - Briefing Aid to private schools - Amendment - Tax credits - Neil H. McElroy Commission - Use by administration - Politics - Briefings - Administration line - Possible solutions - Effect on taxes - Burden shift - Value added tax [VAT] - Opponents - Public relations - Use by administration - Briefings, panels, national publicity - Congressional votes - Muskie's advisory commission - Use Congressional relations - State of the Union address - Administration program - Defense - Need for identify - L. Richard Guylay - Congressional action record - Wilson's accomplishments - Federal Reserve system - House Republican meeting - George P. Shultz - Upcoming Senate meeting - Contact between the White House and Congressional staff - Perception - House Administrative Assistants meeting - Briefings - Subcabinet and wives - Congressional wives - Lincoln Day recess - Handouts - Details - Goals of administration - Economy - John F. Kennedy handouts in 1960 - Issues - Effect - Six goals of administration - Topics - Environment, health - Details - Telephone call to Ribicoff - Telephone call to George H. Mahon Ehrlichman left at 5:05 pm. Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); McKinney, Stewart B.; Ehrlichman, John D.; Ziegler, Ronald L.
- Part of White House Tapes: Sound Recordings of Meetings and Telephone Conversations of the Nixon Administration, Oval Office Sound Recordings