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On March 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 410-010 of the White House Tapes. Topics include: The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. Prisoners of war [POWs] - Pride - Amnesty issue - Raising of flag - Claudia A. ("Lady Bird") Johnson - Daughters Press relations - Ziegler's briefing - Hijacking agreement with Cuba - William P. Rogers - Normalization of relations - Switzerland, Czechoslovakia - Vessels - Small boats - Cuban- American community - Large ships - Haig's uniform - President's statement - Taping - Reading - Ziegler's report to President - Telephone call Ziegler left at 3:05 pm. Vietnam settlement - Henry A. Kissinger's trip to North Vietnam - Cable from President - Laos and Cambodia - Tone - Negotiations - Economic aid - Military activities - North Vietnam's presence in Laos and Cambodia - Cut off of economic aid - Congress - US military options - Effect on North Vietnam - Laos - Cease- Fire - December 1972 bombing - Factories - Cambodia - Gen. Lon Nol - Position - Health - North Vietnam - Kissinger's cable - People's Republic of China [PRC] POWs - Meeting with President - Capt. Jeremiah A. Denton, Jr. - Col. Robinson Risner - Capt. James A. Mulligan, Jr. - Denton - Neil Armstrong - Reception of POWs - Heroism - Consequences of withdrawal - President's telephone call to Milligan's wife - Sign of support of US President - President's Vietnam policies - Success - Congress members - Press - Chicago Tribune - Buffalo Evening News - References to President - Commander- In- Chief - Foreign policy - Enemies - Allies - Support of American people - Press - Soviet Union - Secret negotiations - Vietnam settlement - December 1972 bombing - President's possible television [TV] appearance - Kissinger - Rally US population - North Vietnam - Negotiating position - Secret negotiations [?] - Polish diplomats - Hospital bombing - President's intentions - Kissinger's cable - B-52s - Losses - Melvin R. Laird - Compared to World War II - Air Force - Bombing success - Nagasaki - Morale - Navy - Morale - Army - South Vietnam - Bombing - Navy, Air Force - Impact - Vietnamization - Effect on Nguyen Van Thieu Stephen B. Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm. Desk drawer Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 3:50 pm. Vietnam settlement - Bombing - Effect - Public support Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm. Refreshment Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:50 pm. Vietnam settlement - Public support for President's position - Press, intellectuals, bureaucracy - Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. - Gen. William C. Westmoreland - Letter to Haig - North Carolina - Support for President - POWs - Abrams - Attitudes - President's actions - South Asia - Effect on PRC India- Pakistan war of 1971 - President's actions - Naval fleet - Criticism of President - PRC Vietnam - Haig's talk with Abrams - Army, Navy -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II - Captain of ship State Department - Policy Planning Board - Kissinger treatment - Morale - Haig's conversation with Elliot L. Richardson - NSC Foreign policy - North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] strategy - Southeast Asia - US position - Unilateral disarmament - Threat of nuclear war - Conventional forces - Robert S. McNamara - Naval power - Spiro T. Agnew's trip - Thailand - Aid - Cambodia - Lee Kuan Yew - Ferdinand Marcos - Lt. Gen. T. N. J. Suharto - Adam Malik - Requests for US assistance - Australia, New Zealand, Canada - Military leaders in US - Compared to Winston Churchill's World War I analysis - Education - War college - Compared to State Department - Policy Planning Board - Quality of staff - Adm. Thomas H. Moorer - Joint Chiefs - Consensus reports - Depth - Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] - Meetings with President - Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr. - Kissinger - Honesty - David Eisenhower - Military opinions, ideas - Quality - State Department Policy Planning Board - Kissinger - Power - Advice for President - Cambodia - Troops - Aid to South East Asia - Advice for President - Interest in military services - Budget allocations - Strategy discussions - Recruitment of talent Policy planning - Trends from the 1960s - Compared to Kissinger's style - Talent - Rejuvenation - State Department - Defense Department - Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] - James R. Schlesinger - Informal sessions with President - Avoidance of press, publicity - Coordination - Kissinger - Crises - President's conversation with Edward R. G. Heath - Europe - Criticism of December 1972 bombing - Press - Talent - David Eisenhower's advice - Utilization Europe - Haig's view - Dealings with US - Japan - Great Britain - France - Germany - Support for the president - President's policies - Haig's speech - Engagement with US - Benefits to relations - Reliability of US - West Germany - Willy Brandt US- India relations - Ambassador - Triloki Nath Kaul BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 10/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W001] [Duration: 36s] INTELLIGENCE END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 US- India relations - Kaul BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 10/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W004] [Duration: 23s] US- INDIA RELATIONS END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 US foreign policy and military strategies - Communications - Pentagon - Courts martial - Abrams - Policy planning - Utilization of talent - Rank - Field- Grade officers - Effect on creative thinking - Quality staffing - State Department - Kissinger - President's example - Bombing halt [?] - Telegrams - Col. Richard T> Kennedy - Camp David - Balanced view - Navy - David Eisenhower - Styx missile - Concerns - Soviet Union - Egypt - Israeli destroyer - Future wars - Scale - Soviet Union - Submarines - Pearl Harbor - Losses - Significance - Future wars - Tactical Air Force - Latin America - John A. Scali - Panama Canal settlement - State Department - Military diplomacy - Weapons sales - Kissinger - Frank F. Church - France - US role - JCS - Weapons sales - US role - France - Military involvement - State Department involvement - New perspectives - Europe BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 [National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment excluded under the Atomic Energy Act on 08/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W005] [Duration: 8s] NUCLEAR WEAPONS END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 Middle East - Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo - Oil - Israel - Golda Meir - Kissinger's advice - Election - Solution to problems - Israel - US support - Oil - Saudi Arabia -[Shah of Iran] Mohammed Reza Pahlavi - Pipelines - Soviet Union Soviet Union - Relations with PRC - Import - Possible future actions - Europe, US - Attack on PRC [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment declassified on 08/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W006] [Duration: 7s] Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] - Relations with People's Republic of China [PRC] - Import - Possible future actions PRC - Taiwan - Relations with US Ziegler entered at 3:50 pm. POWs - Raising of flag for Lyndon B. Johnson's mourning - Ziegler's conversation with Claudia Johnson - Daughters - Change in statement - News summary - President's telephone cal to Claudia Johnson - Rose Mary Woods - Flying of flag for POW welcome Press relations - President's statement - Taping Ziegler left at 3:55 pm. Kissinger - Policy planning - Attitude - Second Soviet Union summit - Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] - Middle East - Europe - Dealings with subordinates - Staff - Intelligence - Loyalty - Intellectuals in government - Europe - Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR] - Security conference - Economic issues - George P. Shultz - Qualities - John B. Connally - May 8, 1972 decision -1972 Moscow summit - Bombing Policy planning - Use of military - Richardson - State Department - Military personnel - Perspective - War colleges - World strategy - Mistakes - Kissinger - Pride - Successes - PRC, Soviet Union, Vietnam - Compared to President - Vietnam settlement - Bombing - Poker analogy Haig left at 4:00 pm. Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, Manolo.

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On March 13, 1973, President Richard M. Nixon, Ronald L. Ziegler, Alexander M. Haig, Jr., Stephen B. Bull, and Manolo Sanchez met in the President's office in the Old Executive Office Building from 3:00 pm to 4:00 pm. The Old Executive Office Building taping system captured this recording, which is known as Conversation 410-010 of the White House Tapes. Topics include: The President met with Ronald L. Ziegler and Alexander M. Haig, Jr. Prisoners of war [POWs] - Pride - Amnesty issue - Raising of flag - Claudia A. ("Lady Bird") Johnson - Daughters Press relations - Ziegler's briefing - Hijacking agreement with Cuba - William P. Rogers - Normalization of relations - Switzerland, Czechoslovakia - Vessels - Small boats - Cuban- American community - Large ships - Haig's uniform - President's statement - Taping - Reading - Ziegler's report to President - Telephone call Ziegler left at 3:05 pm. Vietnam settlement - Henry A. Kissinger's trip to North Vietnam - Cable from President - Laos and Cambodia - Tone - Negotiations - Economic aid - Military activities - North Vietnam's presence in Laos and Cambodia - Cut off of economic aid - Congress - US military options - Effect on North Vietnam - Laos - Cease- Fire - December 1972 bombing - Factories - Cambodia - Gen. Lon Nol - Position - Health - North Vietnam - Kissinger's cable - People's Republic of China [PRC] POWs - Meeting with President - Capt. Jeremiah A. Denton, Jr. - Col. Robinson Risner - Capt. James A. Mulligan, Jr. - Denton - Neil Armstrong - Reception of POWs - Heroism - Consequences of withdrawal - President's telephone call to Milligan's wife - Sign of support of US President - President's Vietnam policies - Success - Congress members - Press - Chicago Tribune - Buffalo Evening News - References to President - Commander- In- Chief - Foreign policy - Enemies - Allies - Support of American people - Press - Soviet Union - Secret negotiations - Vietnam settlement - December 1972 bombing - President's possible television [TV] appearance - Kissinger - Rally US population - North Vietnam - Negotiating position - Secret negotiations [?] - Polish diplomats - Hospital bombing - President's intentions - Kissinger's cable - B-52s - Losses - Melvin R. Laird - Compared to World War II - Air Force - Bombing success - Nagasaki - Morale - Navy - Morale - Army - South Vietnam - Bombing - Navy, Air Force - Impact - Vietnamization - Effect on Nguyen Van Thieu Stephen B. Bull [?] entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm. Desk drawer Bull [?] left at an unknown time before 3:50 pm. Vietnam settlement - Bombing - Effect - Public support Manolo Sanchez entered at an unknown time after 3:05 pm. Refreshment Sanchez left at an unknown time before 3:50 pm. Vietnam settlement - Public support for President's position - Press, intellectuals, bureaucracy - Gen. Creighton W. Abrams, Jr. - Gen. William C. Westmoreland - Letter to Haig - North Carolina - Support for President - POWs - Abrams - Attitudes - President's actions - South Asia - Effect on PRC India- Pakistan war of 1971 - President's actions - Naval fleet - Criticism of President - PRC Vietnam - Haig's talk with Abrams - Army, Navy -[Dwight] David Eisenhower, II - Captain of ship State Department - Policy Planning Board - Kissinger treatment - Morale - Haig's conversation with Elliot L. Richardson - NSC Foreign policy - North Atlantic Treaty Organization [NATO] strategy - Southeast Asia - US position - Unilateral disarmament - Threat of nuclear war - Conventional forces - Robert S. McNamara - Naval power - Spiro T. Agnew's trip - Thailand - Aid - Cambodia - Lee Kuan Yew - Ferdinand Marcos - Lt. Gen. T. N. J. Suharto - Adam Malik - Requests for US assistance - Australia, New Zealand, Canada - Military leaders in US - Compared to Winston Churchill's World War I analysis - Education - War college - Compared to State Department - Policy Planning Board - Quality of staff - Adm. Thomas H. Moorer - Joint Chiefs - Consensus reports - Depth - Joint Chiefs of Staff [JCS] - Meetings with President - Adm. Elmo R. Zumwalt, Jr. - Kissinger - Honesty - David Eisenhower - Military opinions, ideas - Quality - State Department Policy Planning Board - Kissinger - Power - Advice for President - Cambodia - Troops - Aid to South East Asia - Advice for President - Interest in military services - Budget allocations - Strategy discussions - Recruitment of talent Policy planning - Trends from the 1960s - Compared to Kissinger's style - Talent - Rejuvenation - State Department - Defense Department - Central Intelligence Agency [CIA] - James R. Schlesinger - Informal sessions with President - Avoidance of press, publicity - Coordination - Kissinger - Crises - President's conversation with Edward R. G. Heath - Europe - Criticism of December 1972 bombing - Press - Talent - David Eisenhower's advice - Utilization Europe - Haig's view - Dealings with US - Japan - Great Britain - France - Germany - Support for the president - President's policies - Haig's speech - Engagement with US - Benefits to relations - Reliability of US - West Germany - Willy Brandt US- India relations - Ambassador - Triloki Nath Kaul BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 [National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 10/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W001] [Duration: 36s] INTELLIGENCE END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 1 US- India relations - Kaul BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 [National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment exempt per Executive Order 13526, 3.3(b)(1) on 10/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W004] [Duration: 23s] US- INDIA RELATIONS END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 4 US foreign policy and military strategies - Communications - Pentagon - Courts martial - Abrams - Policy planning - Utilization of talent - Rank - Field- Grade officers - Effect on creative thinking - Quality staffing - State Department - Kissinger - President's example - Bombing halt [?] - Telegrams - Col. Richard T> Kennedy - Camp David - Balanced view - Navy - David Eisenhower - Styx missile - Concerns - Soviet Union - Egypt - Israeli destroyer - Future wars - Scale - Soviet Union - Submarines - Pearl Harbor - Losses - Significance - Future wars - Tactical Air Force - Latin America - John A. Scali - Panama Canal settlement - State Department - Military diplomacy - Weapons sales - Kissinger - Frank F. Church - France - US role - JCS - Weapons sales - US role - France - Military involvement - State Department involvement - New perspectives - Europe BEGIN WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 [National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment excluded under the Atomic Energy Act on 08/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W005] [Duration: 8s] NUCLEAR WEAPONS END WITHDRAWN ITEM NO. 5 Middle East - Charles G. ("Bebe") Rebozo - Oil - Israel - Golda Meir - Kissinger's advice - Election - Solution to problems - Israel - US support - Oil - Saudi Arabia -[Shah of Iran] Mohammed Reza Pahlavi - Pipelines - Soviet Union Soviet Union - Relations with PRC - Import - Possible future actions - Europe, US - Attack on PRC [Previous National Security (B) withdrawal reviewed under MDR guidelines case number LPRN- T- MDR-2014-008. Segment declassified on 08/17/2017. Archivist: DR] [National Security] [410-010- W006] [Duration: 7s] Union of Soviet Socialist Republics [USSR] - Relations with People's Republic of China [PRC] - Import - Possible future actions PRC - Taiwan - Relations with US Ziegler entered at 3:50 pm. POWs - Raising of flag for Lyndon B. Johnson's mourning - Ziegler's conversation with Claudia Johnson - Daughters - Change in statement - News summary - President's telephone cal to Claudia Johnson - Rose Mary Woods - Flying of flag for POW welcome Press relations - President's statement - Taping Ziegler left at 3:55 pm. Kissinger - Policy planning - Attitude - Second Soviet Union summit - Strategic Arms Limitation Talks [SALT] - Middle East - Europe - Dealings with subordinates - Staff - Intelligence - Loyalty - Intellectuals in government - Europe - Mutual and Balanced Force Reductions [MBFR] - Security conference - Economic issues - George P. Shultz - Qualities - John B. Connally - May 8, 1972 decision -1972 Moscow summit - Bombing Policy planning - Use of military - Richardson - State Department - Military personnel - Perspective - War colleges - World strategy - Mistakes - Kissinger - Pride - Successes - PRC, Soviet Union, Vietnam - Compared to President - Vietnam settlement - Bombing - Poker analogy Haig left at 4:00 pm. Participants: Nixon, Richard M. (President); Ziegler, Ronald L.; Haig, Alexander M., Jr.; Bull, Stephen B.; Sanchez, Manolo.
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