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December 18th, 1928.
Mr. H. M. Armstrong,
The Radium Extension Service,
185 N. Wabash Ave.,
Chicago, Ill.
Dear Mr. Armstrong:
Your letter of December 13th, together with
clipping and photostatic copy has been received.
In order to bring you up to date on the so called
"Radium Poisoning" cases, it seems to me that I had better look back
and briefly outline the history of this matter. The first case
came to our attention in 1925, and we at that time had a survey made
of the luminous material industry to ascertain whether or not there
was any hazard existing. This survey was, in our opinion, very super-
ficial, and did not cover the ground as thoroughly as we had anticip-
ated. Conclusions were based on negative evidence only that there
apparently was a hazard in this industry, and due to the fact that
there was nothing else to ascribe it to we should look upon radium with
suspicion.
After this survey we engabed other parties to make
a more thorough and complete survey, and as their work progressed
they were unable to agree with the conclusions drawn by the first
survey, and in our opinion it seemed that their survey was based upon
more genuine investigations than upon hearsay. For this reason we
felt that while there was something about the entire matter which we
did not understand, that radium was not necessarily to blame. Shortly
after this second survey was completed there was a so called "Radiug
case" in the New England states, which a man close to us had an
opportunity to follow and study. This case was fatal, and while it
was not definitely established that death was due to "Radium Poisoning"
still it was reasonable to believe that it could have been a contribu-
tory cause. After this case there were one or two other which
appeared on the horizon. The history of the cases were very much
the same - one has died and the other is still living.
Às you are aware, the five cases at issue were brought
to our attention in June 1927, and from what data we were able to
collect we were very much inclined to doubt that their condition could
in any way be connected with their work while employed by us. Their
side of the case was presented in court, and then settlement was
effected, with the understanding that their condition would be studied
by a Commission of medical men - one to be appointed by us, one by
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their attorney and the third by the other two.
We have felt that it would be very unwise for us to make any
public statements regarding the condition of these girls under such
circumstances. In other words if We were to make statements we might
possibly have to retract them, for it is only after this Commission
has completed its investigation that the true condition of these girls
be generally known. There is nothing to be gained by speculation or
expressing a personal opinion when a thorough investigation is under
way. Within the past two or three weeks we have had some indication
from this Commission as to what they are finding, and it is our
belief that they are go ng to report that these girls are in all
probability suffering, to some extent, as a result of their employment
by us. However, they are also going to state that the girls
conditions are not accute, and that with proper care it is quite probab-
le that they will live the normal span of life, so far as any injuries
sustained while working for us are concerned.
Now a few words, as to the guilt or radium versus mesothorium:
Our contention has been all along, that if either one was guilty, the
other was equally guilty. The contention which we still hold today,
and which all evidence points toward as being the truth.
The article occuring in the Chicago Herald and Examiner, under
date of February 28th, 1926, resulted from propaganda sproad by our
competitors that mesothorium was to blame for this reported condition,
and they used this to undermine our accounts. At that time we were
using some mesothorium, while they were not, and it was their conten-
tion that it was only luminous material containing mesothorium
that was hazardous. As a matter of fact two of the five girls involved
in the recent litigation worked for us at a time when we had no
mesothorium in our plant, while the other three were there at a time
when we were using both mesothorium and radiun.
It the present time we are disposed to recognize that there is
a distinct hazard in the application of luminous material, but that
that hazard can be controlled by properly controlling the conditions
under which the work is carried out. I have repeatedly discussed this
matter with the medical profession, as to whether or not the hazard
found here was common to the intrevenous use of radium chloride, and
while I find some difference of opinion, the concensus of opinion
seems to be that under controlled medical condtions there is probably
no hazard in the intravenous line. However, I appreciate that there
is always the mental reservation that possibly after the material has
been administered for a sufficiently long period of time, the effects
may become manifest. It is true that there hever has been an
untoward effect reported in the literature, so far as we have been
able to find in connections with the intravenous use of radium - but
those who are particularly averse to this type of medication claim
that such cases have never come to light. Personally I don't believe
that the two are at all comparable, and that radium can be administered
under medical supervision with safety. However, I am not a medical
man, and my thoughts do not carry much weight in this line.
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I have given you this fairly complete picture of the
situation so that you may appreciate why we have made no statements
in the past, and while even at the present time we are not in a
position to do so, it is questionable in my mind if there will ever
be a time when it will be possible, or advisable for us to deny that
the condition of these various cases is in no way ascribably to their
work in the application of luminous material.
All this publicity has been very hard on the general use of
radium for medical purposes, even where deep ray therapy is concerned,
for the general public are not able to differentiate between the
different ways in which radium can be administered. There is only
one word in all of this work which stands out, and that is the word
radium, and anything associated with it must necessarily carry all
the evils claimed in the opinion of the general public.
Sincerely yours,
Vice President.
HHBarker RH
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"ocrText": "December 18th, 1928.\nMr. H. M. Armstrong,\nThe Radium Extension Service,\n185 N. Wabash Ave.,\nChicago, Ill.\nDear Mr. Armstrong:\nYour letter of December 13th, together with\nclipping and photostatic copy has been received.\nIn order to bring you up to date on the so called\n\"Radium Poisoning\" cases, it seems to me that I had better look back\nand briefly outline the history of this matter. The first case\ncame to our attention in 1925, and we at that time had a survey made\nof the luminous material industry to ascertain whether or not there\nwas any hazard existing. This survey was, in our opinion, very super-\nficial, and did not cover the ground as thoroughly as we had anticip-\nated. 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This case was fatal, and while it\nwas not definitely established that death was due to \"Radium Poisoning\"\nstill it was reasonable to believe that it could have been a contribu-\ntory cause. After this case there were one or two other which\nappeared on the horizon. The history of the cases were very much\nthe same - one has died and the other is still living.\nÀs you are aware, the five cases at issue were brought\nto our attention in June 1927, and from what data we were able to\ncollect we were very much inclined to doubt that their condition could\nin any way be connected with their work while employed by us. 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Within the past two or three weeks we have had some indication\nfrom this Commission as to what they are finding, and it is our\nbelief that they are go ng to report that these girls are in all\nprobability suffering, to some extent, as a result of their employment\nby us. However, they are also going to state that the girls\nconditions are not accute, and that with proper care it is quite probab-\nle that they will live the normal span of life, so far as any injuries\nsustained while working for us are concerned.\nNow a few words, as to the guilt or radium versus mesothorium:\nOur contention has been all along, that if either one was guilty, the\nother was equally guilty. The contention which we still hold today,\nand which all evidence points toward as being the truth.\nThe article occuring in the Chicago Herald and Examiner, under\ndate of February 28th, 1926, resulted from propaganda sproad by our\ncompetitors that mesothorium was to blame for this reported condition,\nand they used this to undermine our accounts. At that time we were\nusing some mesothorium, while they were not, and it was their conten-\ntion that it was only luminous material containing mesothorium\nthat was hazardous. As a matter of fact two of the five girls involved\nin the recent litigation worked for us at a time when we had no\nmesothorium in our plant, while the other three were there at a time\nwhen we were using both mesothorium and radiun.\nIt the present time we are disposed to recognize that there is\na distinct hazard in the application of luminous material, but that\nthat hazard can be controlled by properly controlling the conditions\nunder which the work is carried out. I have repeatedly discussed this\nmatter with the medical profession, as to whether or not the hazard\nfound here was common to the intrevenous use of radium chloride, and\nwhile I find some difference of opinion, the concensus of opinion\nseems to be that under controlled medical condtions there is probably\nno hazard in the intravenous line. However, I appreciate that there\nis always the mental reservation that possibly after the material has\nbeen administered for a sufficiently long period of time, the effects\nmay become manifest. It is true that there hever has been an\nuntoward effect reported in the literature, so far as we have been\nable to find in connections with the intravenous use of radium - but\nthose who are particularly averse to this type of medication claim\nthat such cases have never come to light. Personally I don't believe\nthat the two are at all comparable, and that radium can be administered\nunder medical supervision with safety. However, I am not a medical\nman, and my thoughts do not carry much weight in this line.\n-3-\nI have given you this fairly complete picture of the\nsituation so that you may appreciate why we have made no statements\nin the past, and while even at the present time we are not in a\nposition to do so, it is questionable in my mind if there will ever\nbe a time when it will be possible, or advisable for us to deny that\nthe condition of these various cases is in no way ascribably to their\nwork in the application of luminous material.\nAll this publicity has been very hard on the general use of\nradium for medical purposes, even where deep ray therapy is concerned,\nfor the general public are not able to differentiate between the\ndifferent ways in which radium can be administered. There is only\none word in all of this work which stands out, and that is the word\nradium, and anything associated with it must necessarily carry all\nthe evils claimed in the opinion of the general public.\nSincerely yours,\nVice President.\nHHBarker RH"
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