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the -2- tion was given him by Dr. Flinn. Dr. Flinn feels very much embarrassed over the situation, but there is little or nothing which he can do. It is a question in my mind whether or not he acted wisely in advising the family physician of so small an amount, for after all there may be some question regarding the presence of this small amount of material, or that it is sufficient to ever effect the health of the children. You probably have also noticed a squib in the press regarding the lecture which Dr. Flinn gave at Johns Hopkins, relative to results he has obtained with the use of Parathymol for the elimination of radium. Dr. Flinn states that neither he nor Dr. Seidlin delivered any lecture or paper at Johns Hopkins and he is quite at a loss to understand the origin of this newspaper article. ity reaction is that the article was not published without some good foundation for it. I give you a few of these details so that you may know the situa- tion here, and the position which Dr. Flinn has taken regarding the matter. Dr. Flinn has undoubtedly done a lot of very excellent work in this field and will continue to contribute data of importance. I am, however, convinced that he prefers to work more or less single handed in this direc- tion. In this connection I wish to present to you some reactions which I obtained from him in discussing the second paper on the "Decay and Estima- tion of Radium in Living Persons", etc. Referring to page two, paragraph 2: Dr. Flinn feels that to endeavor to deduce a co-efficient of eliminations is rather far fetched in this type of work as he feels that the elimination of any notalic poison, which a person may be subject to varies materially from day to day for each individual. He interprets your statement to mean that there is probably a co-efficient of eliminations which any be applied to this type of vork. I did not so interpret your statement, but may be wrong. I think Dr. Flinn is correct in that there probably is no constant which we may apply to all cases. He seems to feel that the medical profession is not interested in co-efficients of elimination, but the simple fact of whether or not the elimination is increased or decreased or remains a constant. Secondly - he points out that in cases of subject C and D the excreta collected in these instances was not collected from a patient under nornal conditions, that is these patients had been given specific treatment to try to increase the rate of elimination. In one case I believe the patient had had amonium chloride and in the other Parathymol. Dr. Flinn points out that from the subject matter of this paper one would be led to believe that the excreta of these subjects was collected under normal conditions. He further raised the question of whether or not we should publish the paper at all. Why he assumes this attitude I am unable to understand, and he gave no definite reason. He did not raise the point as to his not having had anything to do with the Fryer or Hussman cases, as a reason for his not desiring to be associated with the work. I am wondering whether or not he does not feel that the data with regard to subjects C & D are rather questionable to incorporate in the paper. Upon such an assump- tion my suggestion would be that we drop this part of the paper as well as Dr. Flinnds co-authorship, and proceed with the publication under lines we

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