- Parte de Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Papers, Diaries of Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
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OCR Page 1 of 2DIARY
Book 475
December 19 - 21, 1941
Regraded Unclassified
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Book Page
Air Raid Protection of Treasury
See Treasury Building
Appointments and Resignations
Edwards, B. M.: Consulting Expert status from
December 20, 1941
475
238
Argentina
See Latin America
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Barth, Alan
Editorial Opinion on Foreign Affairs: Meeting the
Issue - 12/19/41
114
Budget Message, 1943
Smith and HMJr discuss tax and fiscal policy
features - 12/19/41
35
a) Smith's message to FDR
34
b) Smith's message as reviewed by Bell -
12/20/41
202
c) Ezekiel (Mordecai) transmits memorandum on
Federal Reserve Board meeting called by
Hansen on "tax policy end budget message";
present: economists from Budget, Office of
Production Management, and Office of Price
Administration - 12/19/41
31
(See also Book 477, page 81)
1) HMJr-Ransom conversation: Book 477,
pages 7 and 42 - 12/23/41
2) HMJris letter to Vallace acknowledging
Zzekiel outline: Book 478, page 64 -
12/26/41
3) Richard V. Gilbert's notes on
discussion of 1942 tax program:
Book 479, page 164
Conference of Treasury people: Book 476, page 37 -
12/22/41
a) Goldenweiser and Currie asked to advise
Treasury: Book 476, page 83
b) Henderson consulted: Book 476, page 85
(See also Book 477, page 212)
Conference: present: HKJr, White, Haae, Viner, and
Bell: Book 476, page 88
Conference: present: HMJr, Viner, Paul, Haes, Morris,
Hell, and White: Book 477, page 46 - 12/23/41
Conference: present: Treasury group, Ranson,
Goldenweiser, Currie, and Gilbert: Book 477, page 213 -
12/24/41
Conference; present: Treasury group: Book 477, nage 266
Recommendations to FDR: Book 477, page 289
"Victory program can not be included in this Budget
Message"; discussion at conference of Treasury
personnel: Book 480, page 4 - 12/30/41
Actual message: Book 483, page 1 - 1/7/42
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Book Page
Censorship, Office of
Executive Order establishing - 12/19/41
475
82
a) $100,000 made available from "Imergency Fund
for President"
81
b) Gaston to represent Treasury: See Book 477,
page 103 - 12/23/41
o) Communications to enemy: Memorandum to FDR on
administration by Treasury: Book 477, page 346 -
12/24/41
China
Stalin's message to Chiang Kai-shek: "Do not ask us to
declare war against Japan at this time" - 12/19/41.
131
Stabilization Board: Taylor and Frese - plans to
evacuate discussed by Treasury and State - 12/19/41
135
Soong, T. V.: Appointed Foreign Minister - 12/21/41
308
Correspondence
Mrs. Forbush's resume' - 12/19/41
99
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Defense Savings Bonds
See Financing, Government
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Edwards, B. M.
See Appointments and Resignations
Exchange Market
Resume's - 12/19/41, 12/20/41
151,281
Exports
Exports to Russia, China, Burma, Hong Kong, Japan,
France, and other blocked countries, week ending
December 13, 1941 - White memorandum.
124
Esekiel, Mordecai
See Budget Message, 1943
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Financing, Government
Defense Savings Bonds:
Tipping by Defense Savings Stamps discussed by Early.
Hogate's Restaurant manager, HMJr, and Graves -
12/19/41
22
Progress report - - 12/19/41
24-A
Field Organization News Letter, No. 31 - 12/20/41
221
United States Savings Bonds, Series 3, Type A - stock
reports of December 20, 1941, and December 21, 1941
222,311
Foley, Edward H., Jr.
Sce Press Room
Foreign Funds Control
Knudsen (William S.) and HMJr discuss problem of Knudsen's
sisters in Copenhagen - 12/20/41
192
a) Foley memoranda: Book 476, pages 248 and 251 - 12/22/41
b) HMJr's note to Knudsen: Book 476, page 253
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Book Page
Gaston, Herbert E.
See Press Room
Gold
See U.S.S.R.
Graves, Harold N.
See Press Room
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Hawaii
Destruction by burning there and the re-issuance
in United States of checks, currency, and
public and private securities - proposed procedure
sent to FDR 12/19/41
475
84
Hogate's Restaurant
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds
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Inflation
See Budget Message, 1943
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Knudsen, William S.
See Foreign Funds Control
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Latin America
Argentina:
Finance Minister Irigoyen--White conversation -
12/20/41
263,264
Lend-Lease
See also Procurement Division
Allocations and obligations - - 12/20/41
254
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Manufacturers, Small
See Speeches by HMJr
Military Reports
Reports from London transmitted by Halifax -
12/19-20/41
153,282
Summary by Kamarck - - 12/20/41
286
War Department bulletin: German Armored Car
Reconnaissance 12/20/41
290
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Book Page
Office of Production Management
See Procurement Division
011
Latin American operations by Standard 011 Company
of New Jersey - 12/20/41
475
261
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Philippine Islands
Destruction by burning there and the re-issuance
in United States of checks, currency, and public
and private securities - proposed procedure
sent to FDR - 12/19/41
84
Press Room
Rumors of plot against Gaston by Foley and Graves
discussed by HMJr at group meeting - - 12/20/41
161
Procurement Division
For HMJr's radio address to small manufacturers,
see Speeches by HMJr
Non-military purchasing (machine tools, chemicals,
non-military trucks and oil) discussed by Cox
and HMJr - 12/19/41
6
a) FDR and HMJr had already discussed
situation
b) Draft of proposed order signed by HMJr:
See Book 480, page 75 - 12/30/41
1) Sent to FDR: Book 480, page 261 -
12/31/41
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Quinine
Report on available supplies - - 12/19/41
94
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Revenue Revision
See also Budget Message, 1943
British joint taxation of husband and wife as a
possible deterrent to the employment of married
women - White memorandum - 12/19/41
79
Roosevelt, Betsy Cushing
Residence in Astor building staffed by Germans
reported to HMJr by Gaston - 12/19/41
98
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Schwarz, Charles
Thompson report on preliminary investigation - 12/20/41.
160
Small Manufacturers
See Speeches by HMJr
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Book Page
Soong, T. V.
See China
Speeches by HMJr
Small Manufacturers - radio address to: Discussion
by HMJr, Foley, and Kuhn - 12/19/41
475
17
a) Draft - speech cancelled - 12/20/41
239
Standard 011 Company of New Jersey
See 011
Switzerland
Representation of United States interests in Europe
and Asia discussed in cables to American Legation,
Bern - 12/20/41
276
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Treasury Building
Air Raid Protection for Treasury Personnel
Safety Order No. 1 - - 12/20/41
249
Deasy recommendations: See Book 477, page 336 -
12/24/41
Shatter-proof glass estimates: Book 479, page 143 -
12/29/41
Brigadier-General Ferguson's detail to Treasury
asked of War Department: Book 480, page 228 -
12/31/41
Air Raid Wardens Training School: Book 483,
page 295 - 1/8/42
Turkey
First requisitions reported by Procurement -
12/20/41
259
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U.S.S.R.
Stalin's message to Chiang Kai-shek: "Do not ask
us to declare war against Japan at this time" -
12/19/41
131
Gold: Status of purchases - 12/19/41
140,142
United Kingdom
See Revenue Revision
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War Powers Bill
Summers (Hatton W.; Chairmon, House Committee on
the Judiciary) thanked by HMJr for assistance -
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12/19/41
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
FOR RELEASE, MORNING NEWSPAPERS,
Washington
Friday, December 19, 1941.
The Secretary of the Treasury, by this public notice, in-
vitee tenders for $150,000,000, or thereabouts, of 82-day
Treasury bills, to be issued on a discount basis under competi-
tive bidding. The bills of this series will be dated December 24,
1941, and will mature March 16, 1942, when the face amount will
be payable without interest. They will be issued in bearer form
only, and in denominations of $1,000, $5,000, $10,000, $100,000,
$500,000, and $1,000,000 (maturity value),
Tenders will be received at Federal Reserve Banks and
Branches up to the closing hour, two c'clock p. m., Eastern Stan-
dard time, Monday, December 22, 1941. Tenders will not be
received at the Treasury Department, Washington. Each tender
must be for an even multiple of $1,000, and the price offered
must be expressed on the basis of 100, with not more than three
decimals, e. E., 99.925. Fractions may not be used. It is urged
that tenders be made on the printed forms and forwarded in the
special envelopes which will be supplied by Federal Reserve Banks
or Branches on application therefor.
Tenders will be received without deposit from incorporated
banks and trust companies and from responsible and recognized
dealers in investment securities. Tenders from others must be
accompanied by payment of 10 percent of the face amount of
Treasury bills applied for, unless the tenders are accompanied
by an express guaranty of payment by an incorporated bank or
trust company.
Immediately after the closing hour, tenders will be opened
at the Federal Reserve Banks and Branches, following which public
announcement will be made by the Secretary of the Treasury of the
amount and price range of accepted bids. Those submitting tenders
will be advised of the acceptance or rejection thereof. The
Secretary of the Treasury expressly reserves the right to accept
or reject any or all tenders, in whole or in part, and his action
in any such respect shall be final. Payment of accepted tenders
at the prices offered must be made or completed at the Federal
Reserve Bank in cash or other immediately available funds on
December 24, 1941, provided, however, any qualified depositary
will be permitted to make payment by credit for Treasury bills
allotted to it for itself and its customers up to any amount for
which it shall be qualified in excess of existing deposits when
50 notified by the Federal Reserve Bank of its district,
The income derived from Treasury bills, whether interest or
gain from the sale or other disposition of the bills, shall not
have any exemption, as such, and loss from the sale or other
disposition of Treasury bills shall not have any special treat-
ment, as such, under Federal tax Acte now or hereafter enacted,
The bills shall be subject to estate, inheritance, gift, or other
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excise taxes, whether Federal or State, but shall be exempt from
all taxation now or hereafter imposed on the principal or interest
thereof by any State, or any of the possessions of the United
States, or by any local taxing authority. For purposes of taxa-
tion the amount of discount at which Treasury bills are originally
sold by the United States shall be considered to be interest,
Under Sections 42 and 117 (a) (1) of the Internal Revenue Code,
as amended by Section 115 of the Revenue Act of 1941, the amount
of discount at which bills issued hereunder are sold shall not be
considered to accrue until such bills shall be sold, redeemed or
otherwise disposed of, and such bills are excluded from considera-
tion as capital assets. Accordingly, the owner of Treasury bills
(other than life insurance companies) issued hereunder need
include in his income tax return only the difference between the
price paid for such bills, whether on original issue or on subse-
quent purchase, and the amount actually received either upon sale
or redemption at maturity during the taxable year for which the
return 18 made, as ordinary gain or loss.
Treasury Department Circular No. 418, as amended, and this
notice, prescribe the terms of the Treasury bills and govern the
conditions of their issue. Copies of the circular may be
obtained from any Federal Reserve Bank or Branch.
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December 19, 1941
10:56
RE ALIEN PROPERTY CUSTODIANSHIP
Present:
Mr. Foley
Mrs. Klotz
H.M.Jr:
Now, the President said did we know how many
foreigners own securities and property in this
country under dummy names. I said I didn't
know, I didn't know whether it was our job or
FBI but I would look into it. He said, "Well,
now, you take the Queen of the Netherlands."
She is no enemy, but he said, "I would like to
know does she or doesn't she own property up
on the top of the hill, there." He said, "Look
into it for me." I said I would.
Now, where Jimmie Byrnes is on this, I don't
know. Do you? Is he with us or against us?
Foley:
Well, I haven't talked with him. Oscar
indicated he would be with us.
H.M.Jr:
You had better find out. Hopkins said as
soon as he got through he would call me on the
phone, but I have got to go on the Mill. That
is the way it is done.
Foley:
All right. There is an Executive Order, you
know, to set up this procedure.
H.M.Jr:
Well, what happened - I am past due on the
Hill. Now, what happened last night?
Foley:
The Justice people came over. Swidler, who
is with Townsend, and we had a little talk, and then
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we want back to our respective offices to
draft orders and we are going to have a
meeting today.
H.M.Jr:
Well, can't you find out from Oscar where
the thing stands? Shall I call him up?
Foley:
No, I can call him up. I understood from
Oscar that he and Harry Hopkins and Jimmie
Byrnes thought it ought to be in one place
and that it all ought to be in the Treasury;
in other words, that the APC should be a
part of the Treasury rather than a part of
Justice.
H.M.Jr:
Well, it was a lucky break I got to the
President before. I don't think he would do
anything after that without first saying
something to me, but you never know.
O.K., Ed, I have got to move. I thought I
would give you that.
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December 19, 1941
10:58 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Cox.
HMJr:
Go ahead. Hello.
Oscar
Cox:
Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Go ahead.
C:
Can I bother you about several things? One,
in working on the next war powers bill
HMJr:
Yes.
C:
it occurred to me that one of the things
that might be done is to cover all the fiscal
powers that you might need.
HMJr:
Yes.
C:
Marriner Ecoles had one minor one on this
authorization of the Federal Reserve Banks to
buy outside the open market.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
Now, I wondered if
HMJr:
That was my okay.
C:
Yeah. Now how about having your legislative
fellows - 18 it all right if I talk to them in
digging up any other fiscal legislation?
HMJr:
Yes. Of course, the Attorney General, in my
presence, agreed to put young Spingarn on that
committee.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
But I don't know why he hasn't done it, and I
haven't had time to call him up.
C:
All right.
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HMJr:
He wrote me about it.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
But you talk with Ed. That'll be all right.
C:
All right, fine. Now, the other thing is this.
The Army is very interested in terms of the
future appropriations to have them made to the
Army instead of to Lend-Lease. Now, that presents
a problem along the lines that you were interested
in six months ago on this Department of Supply.
HMJr:
That's right.
C:
Now, here's the question I'd like to put up to
you.
HMJr:
Go ahead.
C:
On stuff like machine tools, chemicals, non-
military trucks and oil.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
Would you see any reason, if it can be worked out,
why the Treasury shouldn't handle that?
HMJr:
Well, the situation 18 this way. Do you know
McKeachie?
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well, McKeachie came to me last week and said
that they'd been studying this at OPM for a
long time and they now want us to buy all non-
military supplies.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
That 18, beginning with the departments. They
started in by asking us to buy 150,000 desks.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And I just talked to the President - just left
there - - and said what would he think of my -
in the first instance - going on the air and
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explaining to the people that the Treasury's
going to do this - no matter how small a manu-
facturer he was, we'd want to give him first
consideration.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And he was crazy about the idea.
C:
Wonderful.
HMJr:
And, of course, he gave me some of his own ideas.
C:
Fine.
HMJr:
He said, "When you're talking about woodworking",
he said, "that's down my alley."
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Then right away he wanted me to also say on the
air that if anybody had any extra lathes, they
should turn them in to the Government. Well, I
said, "Now wait a minute, Mr. President, I don't
know how OPM is going to like that." But he said,
"Well, think about 1t." He said, "I wanted some-
body to do that for a long time."
C:
Yeah. There are a lot of them around loose, you
know.
HMJr:
He's right, but I don't want OPM thinking I'm
crowding them. My attitude 18, they've got to
ask me 'pretty please" to do this.
C:
Right. I think you're smart.
HMJr:
And I said we'd do one thing at a time.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
So
C:
Well, I have the feeling that if you take on
more of these, that you can do more efficiently
than the Army can in any event.
HMJr:
Well, that's no competition.
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C:
(Laughs) Well.....
HMJr:
But the way I feel is this. This would be
again something that I'd want the President
to feel that he was pushing at me.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
I didn't seek out McKeachie; he sought me out.
C:
Right. Well, suppose we get it up until the
President asks you to take this on.
HMJr:
Well, if he does, we'll be glad to do it.
C:
All right.
HMJr:
Now, can I ask you one?
C:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
What is this? It's now one minute past eleven,
and where do we stand at one minute past eleven
on the alien property custodianship?
C:
Well, your fellows, 8.6 you know, are over
talking to
HMJr:
Yeah, I know about my fellows; but what about
you and Jimmie Byrnes and Harry Hopkins?
C:
Well, can I tell you something completely off
the record?
HMJr:
Absolutely.
C:
Jimmie feels as I do, that without any suggestion
on your part, that it doesn't make any sense to
split these functions - that you've got a con-
tinuous process there, which in many cases the
freezing control 18 more important than the
vesting control.
HMJr:
Yes.
C:
And that to take the half dollar and try to cut
it in half, this 16 crazy
HMJr:
Yeah.
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HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
particularly where the only rational basis
for it 18 that Justice some 20 years ago handled
something called alien property.
HMJr:
That's right.
C:
The whole world has moved on.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
And secondly, Jimmie feels the way I do, that
Justice 1s not an administrative agency and he
thinks it either ought to be in the Treasury or
an independent office.
HMJr:
Why don't you put it under Byron Price, the Censor?
C:
(Laughs) I'm afraid it would just be beyond his
depth, and my own personal thought 18 that it ought
definitely to be in the Treasury and
HMJr:
Well, Oscar, this 18 the way I feel. I can't -
the thing that really shocks me - I can talk
completely off the record to you.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
I have a luncheon, at which the Attorney General
and Leo Crowley sit down with us. We're in com-
plete agreement that we'll try this thing and
see how it works, you see? Hello.
C:
Yes.
HMJr:
Everybody agrees.
C:
Right.
HMJr:
And then somebody gets hold of the Attorney General
and he begins to wiggle.
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well, in these times, that's no way to do business.
C:
Well, I think that just proves the point doesn't
it?
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HMJr:
Well, I mean, if I changedmy mind, I'd call
up Francis and say, "Look, Francis, on Saturday
I told you 80 and BO but on Monday I feel this
way and Tuesday I feel this way."
C:
Yeah. Well, I think it proves the point for
this reason. Francis has got people in that
office that are 80 emotional about this business,
that if it's going to take you three weeks to
work out an order splitting it up, then you've
got as good proof as you want that the damn thing
won't work on a split basis; because the top
fellows can sit there at lunch and agree.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
but there are & hell of a lot of other
people involved in this thing who are like kids
playing with a lollypop.
HMJr:
Well, and then - I agree with you entirely,
Oscar. Then there's another thing. There
are not many as good organizations B.8 this fund-
freezing organization are. They're really a
top organization.
C:
Well, this - there 1sn't any organization
administrative-wise that' 8 as good as the
Treasury under you. We've seen it in this
thing very
HMJr:
Thank you, sweetheart.
C:
That's the honest truth.
HMJr:
Yeah. Well, I got my training under you.
C:
(Laughs) Ha Ha.
HMJr:
Ha Ha.
C:
I learned it the other way around.
HMJr:
Well, anyway - thanks for the flowers - but
the point 1s, here is a good, well-run, highly
efficient organization. Now, why destroy it
because there are two or three whipper-snappers
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over there in the Department of Justice would
like to have it.
C:
Well, we all agree - I mean, Jimmie Byrnes and
I are in a hundred per cent agreement on that.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
And the only reason that he suggested a possibility
of an independent agency was, not knowing what
the President had in mind on Crowley; but I think
his recommendation will be that even though
theoretically it might be better for Crowley to
take over the freezing control staff, as a practical
administrative matter, he ought to be put in the
Treasury.
HMJr:
Don't have any more independent agencies, Oscar.
C:
No, sir. It's no good. I mean, even on the
sheer problem of space and pencils, for example.
HMJr:
Well, look at Export Control what happened with
that.
C:
Oh, sure.
HMJr:
What?
C:
It's no good.
HMJr:
Don't have any more independent agencies.
C:
It means the waste of an organization like the
Treasury to do this job.
HMJr:
I agree with you. I mean, an independent -
Crowley will be glad to come over with us.
C:
I don't think there's any question about it.
HMJr:
See?
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Crowley'd be glad to come with us. If it's a
matter that centers around Crowley, he'd be
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glad to come with us.
C:
Well, I would be reasonably sure of that.
HMJr:
Where does Harry stand?
C:
We haven't talked to him very much in detail
about it. I think Jimmie told him this morning.
not to have the President sign any orders on
it until we got a chance to talk to him about
it.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
I mean, he didn't want one of these Justice
orders sort of elip through under the wire.
HMJr:
I see.
C:
And Jimmie feels strongly that certainly in these
times you ought to do the Job B.B honestly and as
efficiently as you think it ought to be done
HMJr:
Yes.
C:
instead of compromising.
HMJr:
Right.
C:
There's just no use compromising.
HMJr:
Right. Well
C:
I'll let you know what happens on it.
HMJr:
Will you? Because, Oscar, this is one of the
things I'm really interested in.
C:
Well, I think it's damned important.
HMJr:
And - well, it's the human relationship. I
don't want to see men that have put what they
have into this thing just have their - after
the months and months of days and nights
actually sleeping there with this thing 88
they have - and have these boys just kicked
in the gutter.
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C:
No, I think you're right; particularly since
they've done a wonderful job.
HMJr:
Yeah. I mean - and - that's not right.
C:
The only criticism the boys down below in
Justice had was that maybe this statute gave
the President and the Government a little too
much power, which 1s & unique complaint coming
from such an agency.
HMJr:
Yeah. Well, I'm glad you're over there helping
him, because God knows he needs some help.
C:
Well, all right. We'll try, anyway.
HMJr:
Okay.
C:
All right, sir.
HMJr:
All right.
C:
Good-bye.
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DEC 19 1941
Dear Judge Summers:
Mr. Spingarn has told me how generous
you were with your time and energies in
connection with the war powers bill. I
would be remiss, indeed, if I did not
send you, as I do, my warmest thanks and
grateful appreciation for the grand work
you did in piloting this vital legislation
to enactment.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) 1. Korgentham, 12,
Secretary of the Treasury.
Honorable Ratton 1. Summers,
Chairman, Committee on the Judiciary,
House of Representatives.
By Messenger Manur
SJS:mfw
12:55
12/19/41
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[PUBLIC LAW 354-77m CONGRESS)
[CHAPTER 593-1er SESSION]
(H. R. 6233)
AN ACT
To espedite the prosecution of the war effort.
Be it enneted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the
United States of America in Congress assembled,
TITLE I-COORDINATION OF EXECUTIVE BUREAUS IN
THE INTEREST OF THE MORE EFFICIENT CONCEN-
TRATION OF THE GOVERNMENT
SECTION 1. That for the national security and defense, for the suc-
cessful prosecution of the war, for the support and maintenance of
the Army und Navy, for the better utilization of resources and indus-
tries, and for the more effective exercise and more efficient adminis-
tration by the President of his powers as Commander in Chief of
the Army and Navy, the President is hereby authorized to make such
redistribution of functions among executive agencies ILS he may deem
necessary, including any functions, duties, and powers hitherto by
law conferred upon any executive department, commission, bureau,
agency, governmental corporation, office, or officer, in such mannet
as in his judgment shall seem best litted to carry out the purposes
of this title, and to this end is authorized to make such regulations
and to issue such orders as he may deem necessary, which regulations
and orders shall be in writing and shall be published in accordance
with the Federal Register Act of 1935: Provided, That the termina-
tion of this title shall not affect any act done or any right or obliga-
tion accruing or accrued pursuant to this title and during the time
that this title is in force: Provided further, That the authority by
this title granted shall be exercised only in matters relating to the
conduct of the present war: Provided further, That no redistribution
of functions shall provide for the transfer, consolidation, or abolition
of the whole or any part of the General Accounting Office or of all or
any part of its functions.
Sec. 2. That in carrying out the purposes of this title the President
is authorized to otilize, coordinate, or consolidate any executive or
administrative commissions, bureaus, agencies, governmental corpora-
tions, offices, or officers now existing by law, to transfer any duties or
powers from one existing department, commission, bureau, agency,
governmental corporation, office, or officer to another, to transfer the
personnel thereof or any part of it either by detail or assignment,
together with the whole or any part of the records and public prop-
erty belonging thereto.
Sec. 3. That for the purpose of carrying out the provisions of this
title, any moneys heretofore and hereafter appropriated for the use
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2
IPva.
LAW
3
(Peo.
of any executive department, commission, burean, agency, govern.
"(A) investigate, regulate, or prohibit, any transactions in
mental corporation, office, or officer shall be expended only for the
foreign exchange, transfers of credit or payments between, by,
purposes for which it was appropriated under the direction of such
through, or to any banking institution, and the importing, export-
other agency as may be directed by the President hereunder to per-
ing, hoarding, melting, or earmarking of gold or gilver eoin or
form and execute said functions, except to the extent hereafter
bullion, currency or securities, and
authorized by the Congress in appropriation Acts OF otherwise.
(B) investigate, regulate, direct and compel, nullify, void,
Sec. 4. That should the President, in redistributing the functions
prevent or prohibit, any acquisition holding, withholding, use,
among the executive agencies ns provided in this title, conclude that
transfer, withdrawal, transportation, importation or exportation
any bureau should be abolished and it or their duties and functions
of, or dealing in, or exercising any right, power, or privilege with
conferred upon some other department or bureau or eliminated
respect to, or transactions involving, any property in which any
entirely, he shall report his conclusions to Congress with such recom-
foreign country OF a national thereof has any interest,
mendations as he may deem proper.
by any person, or with respect to any property, subject to the juris-
SEC. 5, That all laws or parts of laws conflicting with the provisions
diction of the United States: and any property or interest of any
of this title are to the extent of such conflict suspended while this
foreign country or national thereof shall vust, when, as, and upon
title is in force.
the terms, directed by the President, in such agency or person us
Upon the termination of this title all exécutivo or administrative
may be designated from time to time by the President, and upon such
agencies, governmental corporations, departments, commissions,
terms and conditions as the President may prescribe such interest
burwans, offices, or officers shall exercise the same functions, duties,
or property shall be held, used, administered, liquidated, sold, or
and powers de heretofore of us herenfter by law may be provided,
otherwise dealt with in the interest of and for the benefit of the United
any authorization of the President under this title to the contrary
States, and such designated agency of person may perform any and
notwithstanding.
all acts incident to the accomplishment or furtherance of these pur-
poses; and the President shall, in the manner hereinabove provided,
TITLE II-CONTRACTS
require any person to keep a full record of, and to furnish under
onth, in the form of reports or otherwise, complete information relative
Src. 201, The President may authorize any department or agency
to any net or transaction referred to in this subdivision either before,
of the Government exercising functions in connection with the prose-
during, or after the completion thereof, or relative to any interest
ention of the war effort, in accordance with regulations prescribed by
in foreign property, or relative to any property in which any foreign
the President for the protection of the interests of the Government,
to enter into contracts and into amendments or modifications of con-
be otherwise necessary to enforce the provisions of this subdivision,
country or any national thereof has or has had any interest. or ns may
tracts heretofore or hereafter made and to make advance, progress
and in any case in which a report could be required, the President may,
and other payments thereon, without regard to the provisions of law
in the manner hereinabove provided, require the production, or if
relating to the making, performance, amendment, or modification of
necessary to the national security or defense, the seizure, of any books in
contracts whenever he deems such action would facilitate the prosecu-
of account, records, contracts, letters, memoranda, or other papers,
tion of the war Provided, That nothing herein shall be construed to
the custody or control of such person; and the President may, in the
authorize the use of the cost-phus-a-percentage-of-cost system of
manner hereinabove provided, take other and further measures not
contracting: Provided further, That nothing herein shall be construed
inconsistent herewith for the enforcement of this subdivision.
to authorize any contencts in violation of existing law relating to
"(2) Any payment, conveyance, transfer, assignment, or delivery
limitation of profits: Provided further, That all acts under the
of property or interest therein. made to or for the account of the
authority of this section shall be made a matter of public record under
United States, of ns otherwise directed, pursuant to this subdivision
regulations prescribed by the President and when deemed by him not
or any rule, regulation, instruction, or direction issued hereunder
to be incompatible with the public interest.
shall to the extent thereof be a full acquittance and discharge for
all purposes of the obligation of the person making the same; and
TITLE III-TRADING WITH THE ENEMY
no person shall be held liable in any court for or in respect to
anything done or omitted in good faith in connection with the admin-
Sw. 301. The first sentence of subdivision (b) of section 5 of the
istration of, or in pursuance of and in reliance on, this subdivision.
Trading With the Enemy Act of October 6, 1917 (40 Stat. 411), as
or any rule, regulation, instruction, or direction issued hereunder.
amended, is hereby amended to read A9 follows:
the United States and any place subject to the jurisdiction thereof,
4(3) As used in this subdivision the term United States' means
"(1) During the time of war or during Any other period of national
including the Philippine Islands, and the several courts of have first
emergency declared by the President. the President may, through any
instance of the Commonwealth of the Philippine Islands shall
agency that he may designate, or otherwise, and under such rules
jurisdiction in all cases, civil or criminal, arising under this subdivision
or otherwise-
and regulations as he may prescribe, by means of instructions, licenses,
in the Philippine Islands and concurrent jurisdiction with the district
courts of the United States of all enses, civil or criminal, arising upon
Regraded Unclassified
4
[Pon.
the high seax: Provided however, That the foregoing shall not be
construed as a limitation upon the power of the President, which is
hereby conferred, to prescribe from time to time, definitions, not
inconsistent with the purposes of this subdivision, for any or all of
the terms used in this subdivision."
SEC. 302. All acts, actions, regulations, rules, orders, and proclams.
tions heretofore taken, promulgated, made, or issued by, or presuant
to the direction of, the President or the Secretary of the Treasury
under the Trading With the Enemy Act of October 6, 1917 (40 Stat.
411), as amended. which would have been authorized if the provisions
of this Act and the amendments made by it had been in effect, are
hereby approved, ratified, and confirmed.
SEC, 203. Whenever, during the present war, the President shell
deem that the public safety demands it, he may enuse to be censored
under such rules and regulations as he may from time to time estab.
lish, communications by mail, cable, rudio, OF other means of trans-
mission passing between the United States and any foreign country
he may from time to time specify, or which may be carried by any
vissol or other means of transportation touching at any port, place,
or Territory of the United States and bound to or from any foreign
country. Any person who willfully evades or attempts to evade the
submission of any such communication to such consorship or willfully
uses or attempts to tiso any code or other device for the purpose of
concealing from such consorship the intended meaning of such com-
numication shall, upon conviction, be fined not more than $10,000, or,
if a natural person, imprisoned for not more than ten years, or both:
and the officer, director, or agent of any corporation who knowingly
participates in such violation shall lie punished by a like fine, imprison-
ment, OF both, and any proporty, funds, securities, papers, or other
articles OF documents, or any vessel, together with her tackle, apparel,
furniture. and equipment, concerned in such violation shall be forfeited
to the United States.
TITLE IV-TIME LIMIT AND SHORT TITLE
Ste. 401. Titles I and Il of this Act shall remain in force during the
continumente of the present war and for six months after the termina-
tion of the war, or until such earlier time ns the Congress by concurrent
resolution or the President may designate.
1941". Sto. 402. This Act may be cited as the "First War Powers Act,
Approved, December 18, 1941.
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December 19, 1941
11:00 a.m.
RE RADIO ADDRESS TO SMALL MANUFACTURERS
Present:
Mr. Kuhn
Mrs. Klotz
Mr. Foley
M.M.Jr:
Ferdie, if you don't mind listening, you make
notes. I am an hour late on the Hill. I
spoke to the President about my going on the
air about these desks. The reason I spoke
to the President was that I didn't want to
have somebody running to the President that
I was trying to step out.
He said, "Now, when you talk about woodworking,
that is right down my alley." He says, "I
think it is a swell idea. He is crazy about
it. Then he said, "Can't you fix the price
in advance and tell these people that the
Government is willing to pay such and such 8.
price which they have figured out would keep
a small woodworking shop going?"
(Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Oscar Cox.)
S.M.Jr:
He called me.
Foley:
Yes, I gathered he did.
H.M.Jr:
Just stay here a minute and hear the rest of
this, Ed.
Now, the President on this woodworking thing -
it is sort of hard to get back to it. What
had I told you?
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Kuhn:
You said if anyone had any extra lathes they
should turn them over and that the Government
should pay such a price 8.8 would keep the
small woodworker going.
H.M.Jr:
Set the price in advance. Now, I don't know
whether that is good or not. I don't see
how we could fix a price in advance for the
desks. You might not get any bids.
Kuhn:
Then you have to come up to specifications
set by the Government. If you go on the air,
you have to specify--
H.M.Jr:
By sections, and we are doing it by districts,
and, for instance, in the Northwest where they
are close to the wood, they might be able to
bid one price and in another section where
they didn't have access to the wood, they
couldn't, and the hardwood workers of New
Hampshire and Vermont might go way below the
fellows who had to work with pine in Georgia.
Kuhn:
Don't you have to state your specifications
on the air when you go on the air?
H.M.Jr:
You ask them to write me - either ask for a
copy of the speech or to go to the nearest
Procurement Office. There are only seven of
them. I will have to list them on the air.
Kuhn:
When you have finished, I have got one ques-
tion that has been bothering me. That is,
the Local Defense Councils in each of the
forty-eight states exist for the purpose of
putting the Government in touch with the
small manufacturers.
H.M.Jr:
Don't make me laugh. I haven't got time. We
will use them as well.
Kuhn:
That is what I mean.
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H.M.Jr:
But I, Henry Morgenthau, Jr., with the Presi-
dent's hearty approval, am going to go on the
air and say, "Now, we are in this business
and we want to reach the small manufacturers."
Kuhn:
That is right, but I meant use the Defense
Councilsand direct some of your--
H.M.Jr:
Te will use everybody. They will send them
copies of my speech. I have got to go on the
Hill. Have you started on this?
Kuhn:
Yes, I have, and I want to talk to the radio
people about it. I have not yet talked to
them about it, and I also wasn't clear whether
you wanted to do this yourself or--
H.M.Jr:
I do.
Kuhn:
... have announcers all over the country--
H.M.Jr:
No, I want to do it. I want to talk to the
small manufacturers of the United States.
Kuhn:
O.K.
H.M.Jr:
I want something after Cabinet on this thing.
You ought to see Cliff Mack and get the technique.
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20
December 19, 1941
11:17 a.m.
Senator
Byrd:
..explained it to me.
HMJr:
Well, I just got back this second from the
White House.
B:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
And I wanted to know whether there's still time
to come up.
B:
No. You see, the House members had a very 1m-
portant meeting of all the Appropriations Com-
mittee, and they had to leave at eleven o'clock.
HMJr:
Oh.
B:
They've adjourned now.
HMJr:
Well, I'm sorry.
B:
I told - 80 I told Dan what we were able to do
on the farm business - not as much as I would
have liked to have seen done. It'll recommend
the abolition of the farm tenancy and the farm
commodity, together with the loans.
HMJr:
Oh, yes,
B:
And then a hundred million dollar reduction in
the exportation and domestic consumption of agri-
cultural products, and that the overhead expense
of the Department of Agri - I mean, the elimination
of these Soil Conservation payments - those hundred
thousand committeemen he out out at a saving of
forty-four million; the elimination of all land
purchases during the period of the emergency;
that the Federal Crop Insurance be made actuarily
sound; and that the Rural Electrification all be
deferred.
HMJr:
I see.
B:
I did the very best I could with them. That was
a ticklish thing, and they had Wickard up here
yesterday for two hours.
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HMJr:
8o I heard.
B:
And he argued and argued and wouldn't agree to
make a single dollar reduction.
HMJr:
I see.
B:
So I thought - would it be satisfactory to you,
Henry, if Dan Bell and I would work over this
report and then send it up to you tomorrow?
HMJr:
Absolutely.
B:
Fine. Well, he's coming down this evening.
HMJr:
Thank you.
B:
You've been a great help." I tell you, if it
hadn't been for you, we couldn't have done any-
thing.
HMJr:
Well, that's very nice of you. I'm sorry I - - but
I've been in Chicago and I've been - well, I
haven't been loafing.
B:
No. I know what a terrible strain you're under,
but you've been invaluable.
HMJr:
Well, thank you.
B:
Thank you very much; and I'll get hold of Danny
this evening and we'll submit it to you then.
HMJr:
Thank you, Harry.
B:
Good-bye.
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December 19, 1941
11:39 a.m.
HMJr:
Harold.
Harold
Graves:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Well, how's the great sales manager?
G:
Oh, I'm fine, thank you, sir. How are you?
HMJr:
I'm alive.
G:
(Laughs)
HMJr:
That was a good meeting. All the after-taste
was good.
G:
Yes, I thought it was good.
HMJr:
Harold, this is just a little chore which is
descriptive of you.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
While waiting to see the President, Steve Early
informed me that he'd had lunch down at Hogates
Restaurant.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
And that the manager of the restaurant told him
that the restaurants in Washington do ten million
dollars a month.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
He's a member either of the local or national
Restaurant Tariff Association.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
And that they would like to have their patrons
do all the tipping with Defense Savings Stamps.
G:
Fine.
HMJr:
Now, I didn't let on that I didn't think this was
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an original idea
G:
Yeah.
HMJr:
.....but I think it's good business to contact
the manager of Hogates
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
and tell him you're doing it at Mr. Steve
Early's suggestion.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
We'd like his cooperation - if he's a go-getter -
he runs a good restaurant - maybe he can get all
the restaurant people in the country and handle
that for us.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
And then when you get the thing done, fix up a
little letter for me to Steve Early, giving him
a report what we've done.
G:
Yes.
HMJr:
And thanking him for making the suggestion.
G:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Have you got it?
G:
I have it.
HMJr:
Now don't let that slip.
G:
No, I won't. I'll take care of it right away.
HMJr:
Then will you organize a meeting to be in my
office at four-thirty.....
G:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
between yourself and Bell and Broughton and
Hall.
G:
Yes.
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HMJr:
I want a report on what's happened in the
last twenty-four hours on manufacturing and
what's gone out.
G:
Fine. We'll be there - four-thirty today.
HMJr:
And anybody else that has anything to do with
it.
G:
Yes. Very good, sir.
HMJr:
But at four-thirty I want a report. I'm going
to get 8 daily report from now on until that
gets on its feet.
G:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Thank you.
G:
I'll take care of it. You're welcome. Good-bye.
24.A
December 19, 1941
TO:
HAROLD N. GRAVES
SUBJECT: PROGRESS REPORT FROM DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF
SALE OF BONDS
Actual cash receipts from the sale of E, F and G
Bonds for the first sixteen working days of December
were $223,610,000, an increase of 33.4 per cent over
the same period in November. Actual sales for the same
period in November were $167,587,000.
Actual cash receipts from the sale of Series E
Bonds for the first sixteen working days in December
were $128,588,000, an increase of 65.8 per cent over
the same period in November.
SPECIAL REPORTS ON SALE OF BONDS
The Federal Home Loan Bank Board reports an increase
of 376 per cent in the sale of Bonds for the week,
December 8 to 13, as compared with the week, December
1 to 6. of the 120 cities, the highest increase was in
the Los Angeles, California area, which was 1400 per cent;
the lowest, in the Des Moines, Towa area, showed an
increase of 104 per cent.
5/19/41
EWG
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24-B
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SPECIAL REPORTS ON SALE OF BONDS (Continued)
Reports from 89 major post offices showed an increase
of 95 per cent in the sale of Defense Savings Stamps for
the week, December 8 to 13, as compared with the week,
December 1 to 6. The actual figures were:
December 1 to 6 - $1,145,118.90
December 8 to 13 - $2,236,431.04
This is an increase of $1,091,312.14. Percentages ranged
from a loss in some cities to more than a thousand per cent
increase at Atlanta, Georgia.
CHICAGO MEETING
Those who read this report are generally familier with
the successful meeting held in Chicago; however, a special
detailed report is being prepared and will be ready next week.
This report is being made in the form of a four-page news-
paper, copies of which will be distributed to all employees
of the Defense Savings Staff in Washington and elsewhere,
as well as volunteer workers.
Regraded Unclassified
24.C
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COOPERATION
Telegrams and letters are pouring into the Defense
Savings Staff from movie, radio and stage stars, individual
business men, corporations and numerous organizations offer-
ing assistance in the Bond and Stamp Campaign.
Among the stars are Dorothy Lemour, Ronald Coleman,
Jack Benny, Lily Pons, Andre Kostelanetz, and Brian Donlevy.
NATION'S ENTERTAINERS PLAN AID
Leading representatives of the amusement industry have
offered the aid of 165,000 entertainers and have promised that
they will launch 8 plan immediately to get Defense Savings
speeches, skits, songs and mention into every show, concert
and other amusement acts given in the country. This is on 8
continuing basis. Plans were completed at a meeting in New
York today, Friday, December 19. These plans are being put
into operation by the following: Paul Dulzell, Executive
Secretary of Actors' Equity; Leo Cluesmann, essistant to the
president of the American Federation of Musicians; Gerald
Griffin, Executive Secretary of the American Guild of Veriety
Artists; and Blanche Witherspoon, Executive Secretary of the
American Guild of Musical Artists.
Regraded Unclassified
24-D
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RADIO
The Rudy Vallee show on Christmas night will be
dedicated to Defense Bonds and Stamps, with Lionel Barry-
more reading Dicken's Christmas Carol.
The Columbia Broadcasting System has turned over seven
one-half hour late evening dance programs to the promotion
of Bonds and Stamps. These will be broadcast on coast-to-
coast networks and will include such band leaders as Bennie
Goodman, Jinmy Dorsey, Harry James, Cab Calloway, Guy
Lombardo, end Glenn Miller. The band leaders will personally
read Bond and Stamp announcements,
All radio stations have been contacted and asked to sell
Bonds and Stamps directly to the public, following up the
plan used by Station WFVA in Fredericksburg, Virginia.
David Sarnoff, president of the Radio Corporation of
America, has been named chairman of E committee to organize
MINUTE MEN speakers throughout the United States. These
speakers will include nationally known men and women who will
speak over the networks, and prominent people in local
communities who will speak over local stations. MINUTE MEN
speakers will also be furnished over stations broadcasting
in foreign languages.
24.E
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RADIO (Continued)
For use ten days before Christmas special ennouncements
were prepared urging people to give Bonds and Stamps 8.8
Christmas presents. (Samples of these announcements attached).
Special Pay Roll Allotment Programs of approximately
three minutes are being used in the next week on fifty-one
network programs.
RADIO DAILY, trade newspeper of the radio industry, is
carrying e two-column box daily, showing what stations are
doing individually to promote the sale of Bonds and Stamps.
This is in addition to the material furnished by the Treasury
Department. (Sample copy attached).
Every network children's program is promoting the sele
of Defense Bonds and Stamps as follows:
American School of the Air - Mondey through
Friday, on CBS (Direct to Classrooms)
Supermen - Monday through Friday - 500 stations
Tom Mix - Monday through Friday - NBC-Blue
Walter Damrosch Music Appreciation Hour -
every Friday over NBC-Blue
Jack Armstrong - every week
The Lone Ranger - every week
Captain Midnight - three times a week
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29.F
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MAGAZINES
The Saturday Evening Post, Newsweek, and the Heart's
magazines are using Defense Savings emblems on either the
front cover or inside pages. Attached is 8 copy of The
Saturday Evening Post issue of December 20, 1941.
Pay Roll Allotment advertisements are running in
December and January in 575 business and trade publications.
The combined circulation is 5,900,000. Attached are sample
copies of advertisements appearing in Business Week and
Printers' Ink.
More than 550 house organs are publishing one column
feature entitled "Defense Bonds buy ....".
A special Pay Roll Allotment advertisement was mailed
to 550 labor papers this week. (Copy attached).
PRESS
Cooperation from newspapers continues in a most
spectacular way. Editorials, cartoons, special boxes, news
stories and clippings of cartoons are coming into the Defense
Savings Staff by the hundreds.
Special cartoons by twenty-five of the country's leading
cartoonists have been made for the Defense Savings Staff and
these are being matted and sent to daily newspapers.
Regraded Unclassified
24-G
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PRESS (Continued)
Attached is a copy of e series of boxes which have
been sent out to all newspapers. These boxes will supplant
the feature "WAR NEEDS MONEY" sent out & week ago. Attached
are a few selected clippings, particularly from Chicago and
the Chicago meeting.
A full page advertisement of Defense Bonds was carried
in the Journal American of Monday, December 15. (Clipping
attached).
LABOR PRESS
Attached are the picture and cartoon sent out to labor
newspapers.
PLEDGES
Plans are being made in connection with the campaign to
get 35 million American citizens to subscribe to a pledge to
buy Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps on a regular basis.
These plans will be given in detail in a later report.
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RETAILERS FOR DEFENSE
The F. W. Woolworth Company announced that on January
2, 1942 they will give to each of eighty thousand employees
a twenty-five cent Defense Stamp in an album at a store
meeting, at which time all employees will be urged to buy
Defense Stamps on a regular basis each pay day from a
cashier in the store. In every major store, an employee
has been placed in a booth full time to sell stamps during
the Christmas period. Sales in New York City in major stores
are running more than $600 daily.
Sears, Roebuck & Company announced the inauguration of
a pay roll allotment plan for all employees in their 900
stores. Starting January 1, 1942 a Defense Window will be
established in all stores for the sale of Defense Bonds and
Stamps.
Retailers for Defense Committees are asking local and
national advertisers to use the small Minute Man out in all
advertisements in newspapers and magazines.
MOTION PICTURES
Walt Disney has offered his personal services and the
services of his entire organization to make movie shorts.
Plans to accomplish this are being worked out.
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SPECIAL ACTIVITIES
Joe Williams, noted sports writer, has been named
chairman of a committee to promote Bonds and Stamps through
sports activities. Mr. Williams is coming to Washington on
Monday, December 22, to work out plans.
Irving Berlin is writing a new patter for the song
ANY BONDS TODAY.
The print of Leon Schlesinger's cartoon has been
received and will be screened.
Defense Houses are being operated in Los Angeles,
California and Oklahoma City, Oklahoma.
Des Moines, Iowa; Sarasota, Florida; and Hagerstown,
Maryland have formed committees patterned after the Buffalo
committee and are buying planes and tanks for the Army.
MAIL ORDER DIVISIONS
The mail order division reports the total sales as of
December 18 - $11,053,091. This total has been obtained as
follows:
First Industrial mailing - $3,191,441 in 86 days
Second Industrial Mailing - $1,382,722 in 29 days
First Customer Mailing - $3,833,036 in 76 days
24.J
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MAIL ORDER DIVISIONS (Continued)
Regular Purchase Distribution - $304,598
in 34 days
Acknowledgement Distribution - $144,337
in 41 days
Enclosures to Outside Advertisers - $12,563
Second Customer Mailing - $341,898 - in 9
days with 894,000 new names
available
First Prospect Mailing - $1,441,532 - in
22 days
A large early mailing for 1942, starting December 30,
to customers and prospects totalling 12,000,000 is in prospect.
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December 19, 1941
11:41 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Colonel
Smith:
Yes. Smith, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Look, Colonel, I'd like to make a couple little
suggestions after my inspection yesterday, see?
Hello.
S:
Yes, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
And I'm making them to you and to nobody else.
I didn't say anything to the President, I didn't
say anything to General Watson, see?
S:
All right, sir. Let me get a pencil here &
minute. I have one.
HMJr:
I feel this way, that for the Army's sake first
and for the defense of the President - or let's
say the defense of the President first and the
Army second - if I had that responsibility of
that battery, I would send each group
S:
Yes,
HMJr:
at once, without fail, to some place where
they could fire one of those guns. There 1en't
one of those men, including their officers, that's
ever fired a 90 millimeter gun.
S:
That's right, sir.
HMJr:
And I certainly wouldn't sleep until I had sent
each man and the battery, including their officers,
to some place - somebody said Indian Head - I
don't know if it's Indian Head or where it is
S;
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
BO that they had experience and knew how to
fire that gun and óidn't wait to experiment on
any enemy.
B:
Yes, sir. Well, that's being taken care of,
Mr. Secretary.
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HMJr:
Well, I gathered it wasn't going to be done
in any great hurry.
S:
Well, it will be done by instruments 88 rapidly
as it can be.
HMJr:
Yeah. Well
S:
They go down to Norfolk, to the Coast Artillery
School down there where there are those guns,
and they go down by detachments and will fire
them.
HMJr:
But I gathered, the way the thing was being
handled, that it might be weeks.
S:
Well, I'll find out. I don't know how long it
will take, eir.
HMJr:
Well, I'm bringing it to your attention and to
nobody else's, see?
S:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
And the other thing, I also gathered that with
these ears that they have there - these mechanical
eare - they don't get - it's "a matter of only a
few seconds' notice that they have until they get
up this electrical device.
S:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
And I'd also like to suggest that somebody put
some heat on them to get up what in the Navy
they call a raid-eye - I don't know what you call
it in the Army.
S:
Yes. Those are the ones that they said they
hadn't yet received.
HMJr:
No, pardon me. They said they'd received them
S:
Oh, they had to fix them up, that was right.
HMJr:
but they didn't seem to know just how to
fix them up.
8:
That's right, sir.
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HMJr:
And 80 I just want to make those two sug-
gestions.
S:
Yes, indeed, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Because until the men know how to fire the
gun or they know how to detect a plane at least
more than a - what is it, four or five seconds,
I think, is all the warning they have now - it
must be more than that, isn't it?
B:
Well, they said five miles. I don't know how
many seconds that will give them; that won't
give them very much.
HMJr:
Five miles at 300 miles an hour isn't - well,
it's only a couple of seconds.
S:
Yes, I get your point, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
You see? And until they have those electrical
raid-eyes up, the batteries are ornamental.
S:
Yes, sir. Well, General Jarman will be down,
I think, tomorrow or next day, and I'll take
this up with him then.
HMJr:
Are you going to wait that long?
S:
Well, no, I can telephone him, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
That's better. Thank you.
S:
Yes, sir. You're quite welcome, sir.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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December 19, 1941
live P.M..
Memorandum for the Secretary:
Colonel Smith telephoned and asked me to give you
the following message from him:
"I have taken up the points you mentioned in
connection with your inspection of anti-
aircraft installations yesterday. The Deputy
Chief of Staff, General Bryden, and the Chief
of Coast Artillery are in conference now
making immediate arrangements to put your
suggestions into effect."
Mrs. McHugh
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December 19, 1941
1:05 p.m.
HWr:
This is Secretary Morgenthau.
Secy. to
Sen. Walsh: Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Mr. Walsh promised me yesterday when I saw him
at four that he would call me before I went to
Cabinet.
S:
Yes, sir. What time do you go to Cabinet, sir?
HMJr:
Well, I go at two c'clock.
S:
Two o'clock. Well, he's either on the Floor,
eir, or he went to early luncheon. I can reach
him before two o'clock, and I'll have him call
you.
HMJr:
Well, he promised me faithfully he'd call me
before I went to Cabinet.
S:
If he promised you that, he will call you, sir.
HMJr:
I hope 80,
S:
I know 80,
HMJr:
All right.
S:
Okay.
1:48 p.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Yes, sir.
HMJr:
Go ahead.
Operator:
I have to get him on. He hung up.
HMJr:
Hello.
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Senator
Walsh:
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Henry speaking.
W:
Yes, I'm sorry I've had to delay. I've been
downtown. Just got back this moment.
HMJr:
Right.
W:
I rushed back 80 8.8 to get here before two
o'clock.
HMJr:
Right.
W:
I am not prepared to give my consent today,
and I'll have to ask you to let that go until
next week. I'll just say this to you. In the
meantime, I talked to Representative Dies and
asked him about the conduct of that Bridges
case by Mr. Landis. He said he would publicly
state that he was most unfair and showed marked
prejudice in favor of Bridges during the whole
hearing. I want to look into that more. I'm
just telling you what he said.
HMJr:
Yeah.
W:
I don't know whether Dies - - I don't know him
personally at all, or whether his judgment is
worth relying upon at all; but it's apparent -
it looks to me as if that issue would be raised.
I suggest you let the matter go for a few days
until I get back from Massachusetts the first of
next week.
HMJr:
Well, it's very disappointing.
W:
Yes, well I'm sorry too. I appreciate your
position. It's very troublesome to me. It's
been a source of very great trouble.
HMJr:
Yes. Well
W:
I'll take it up with you as soon 8.8 I come back
on Tuesday of next week.
HMJr:
You'll be back Tuesday.
W:
Yes.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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December 19, 1941
To#
The Secretary
From:
Mordecai Seekiel
Subject: Tax Policy and the Budget Measage
Yesterday Dr. Hansen of the Federal Reserve Board staff called a meeting
to consider tax policy and the coming budget message in relation to inflation
prospects. Economists from the Budget Bureau, OPM, and OPA were also present,
among others.
A review of the existing situation led to agreement thate
(1) The price increase had slowed down markedly since September, reflecting
increased supplies and a cessation of stocking-up.
(2) Future increases in defense employment will be partially offset by
priority unexployment, leaving only slight net gain in consumer buying
power.
(3) Quantities of food, clothing, and services available for domestic
consumers can continue to expand throughout our war effort. At the
same time, defense expenditures themselves will provide food, clothing,
and shelter for - rising proportion of the population.
(4) Reduction or elimination of consumers' durables will not divert an
equal amount of buying power to food and other perishables (a) because
these durables are usually bought on installment credit and with the
cessation of their sale the credit will contract, and (b) because
durables are bought largely by middle- and upper-income groups which
already buy about as much food as they need.
These facts led to a conclusion that consumer buying power is not likely to
rise very much faster than the quantity of commodities and services available
for sale to consumers for quite a period ahead.
In view of these facts, it was the general consensus of the group that:
(1) Inflationary pressures toward a continuing upward price sovement were
less marked now than had seened likely several months ago, and the
said
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6 Positives given to Mr. Bell today
in accordance with Mrs. Klotz's
instructions.
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
December 19, 1941.
MEMORANDUM FOR
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
I enclose memorandum from
Harold Smith and have asked him
to cooperate with you in letting
me have a general outline of the
tax policy or program for in-
clusion in my Budget Message.
F. D. R.
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EXECUTIVE OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT
BUREAU OF THE BUDGET
WASHINGTON, D.C.
ing
FICE OF
DIRECTOR
December 17, 1941
MEMORANDUM TO THE PRESIDENT:
RECEIVED
The proposed Indget Message for 1943 has gone
through several drafts here in the office. It seems
quite clear that the Budget Mossage should be used as
a vehicle to set forth a more comprehensive statement
of the fiscal situation and of fiscal policy than has
ever been done before.
The Budget picture is affected by price control,
priorities and allocations, credit control, ec well as
the obvious expenditure and revenue aspects. In view
of a possible deficit of 38 billion dollars for 1943,
based on present revenue measures, I feel that an in-
tegrated financial program should be incorporated in
the !ludget Message. I believe that it will give the
country a feeling of confidence that - such a program
is being formulated for adoption.
Tre have already drafted the liessage tentatively
to include what ne believe to be the general outline
of the Treasury tax program. If you agree that there
is advantage in B. rather comprehensive statement of
the fiscal situation, I will be glad to try to iron
out the text with the Treasury in advance of presenta-
tion to you, in order to conserve your time.
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December 19, 1941
4:45 p.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Harold Smith.
HMJr:
Hello,
Harold
Smith:
Hello.
HMJr:
Henry Morgenthau.
:-
Yeeh.
HVJr:
I've juet gotten this note from the President
in regard to his message, and he spoke to me
about it this morning.
8:
Yeah.
9MJr:
Also, he enclosed your note to him.
::
I Just BAW it right this minute, myself.
4MJr:
Pardon?
01
This ie the first time - I see I have a copy
of it here. I hadn't seen it until this minute.
HMJr:
Yes. Well, any time that you want to sit down
with our people, they're available.
St.
Yeah.
HMJr:
I'm available.
St.
well, I think that we'll have to make some - we've
got a tentative draft of a Budget message
HMJr:
Yes.
9;
and my general feeling 18 that the Budget
message ought to be more comprehensive then
it's been in the past because of this particular
situation. You remember what I said in the
memorandum to him-
HMJr:
Yes.
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S:
And that was the point I had in mind, and we're
running against time on it; and let me see where
the draft stands and then I'll get in touch with
you or shall I get in touch with Bell
HMJr:
Either one of us.
S:
and see what the next move - I think possibly
you and I ought to sit down and talk about it a
little.
HMJr:
I think you and I should.
S:
Yeah.
HMJr:
But if there's going to be anything in there
about taxes, why I want to be sure it'
S:
Yeah.
HMJr:
in agreement with what we here in the
Treasury feel.
S:
Yes. Yes.
HMJr:
And 80 any time you're ready, if you'll just
give me a little notice I'd like to sit down
S:
Yeah, I'll do that.
HMJr:
I'd like to sit down with you myself.
S:
Yeah. Well, I'd like to talk to you about it.
Now, let me remind you - maybe you don't need
to be reminded - about that speech in New York.
Have you got it all written?
HMJr:
No. Now, let's see, what night 18 that?
S:
That's Sunday night, as I recall; I think
that's about the twenty-eighth of December.
HMJr:
Yes. No, but we've made a start on it.
S:
Good. Good.
The radio time, I understand, is fixed up.
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HMJr:
That's right.
S:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Now, there'll be some people from the Treasury
that would like to go.
9:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Do you suppose there could be 8 Treasury table?
S:
Why, I would think 80, yes.
HMJr:
What?
S:
Well, I would think so. Now, I don't know the
arrangement of the hall.
HMJr:
Well, who takes care of
S:
It's not a dinner meeting, you know.
HMJr:
Oh, I thought it was a dinner meeting.
8:
No, no.
HMJr:
Oh.
S:
It's a big assembly of the two organizations.
HMJr:
Oh.
S:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Well
S:
Do you recall the radio time, whether it's
HMJr:
I think it's eight-thirty.
S:
Yeah. Well, that's what I was thinking.
HMJr:
Well, if anybody at the Treasury wants to go,
how will they get in?
S:
Oh, easy enough. There are no limitations.
HMJr:
Well, I mean, how - do they have to have tickets
or what?
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S:
I don't think so.
HMJr:
I see.
8:
One of the groups, I don't think, 1s even
registering people.
HMJr:
I see.
S:
No, this is pretty much of an open meeting.
HMJr:
Oh.
S:
But I'll check into that and get the arrange-
ments to somebody over - over to your secretary
80 they can take care of it.
HMJr:
Right. And if you - now, on this thing, I'm
ready any time if you'll just give me a little
notice.
S:
Yeah. Well, what I was thinking of, of course,
we're running into the Christmas and these other
responsibilities.
HMJr:
Well, if your draft 18 ready on the fiscal
part and the tax part, why we're ready to dis-
cuss it.
8:
Yeah. Fine. All right, I'll get in touch with
you.
HMJr:
Thank you.
S:
Good-bye.
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December 19, 1941
4:55 p.m.
RE DEFENSE SAVINGS BONDS
Present:
Mrs. Klotz
Mr. Bell
Mr. Graves
Mr. Broughton
Mr. Haas
Mr. Kilby
Mr. Hall
H.M.Jr:
Well, I see we are still selling them. This
last day's is the biggest, isn't it?
Graves:
The best day was really Monday, looking at
the E Bond column. Eighteen million E Bonds
Monday, as I recall it, and thirteen million
yesterday.
H.M.Jr:
But the total is --
Haas:
The total is the biggest yesterday.
H.M.Jr:
It doesn't give the total. Yes, it is all
right. Now, how many did you produce?
Hall:
We turned out one hundred twenty thousand
already and they were delivered today.
H.M.Jr:
Now, have you got`a sheet for me like you gave
me yesterday?
Hall:
Mr. Broughton submitted that this morning.
Broughton:
You have got that report, haven't you? That
is it. Here is what the Bureau plans for
the next three days.
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H.M.Jr:
Well, what did they do?
Ilall:
We did that today.
H.M.Jr:
Well, how many have you sent out?
Broughton:
I haven't got the figures, but it is about
two hundred and fifty thousand in round
numbers, two hundred fifty thousand pieces
in round numbers.
H.W.Jr:
How can you do that?
Broughton:
Well, we shift in our stock, you see.
H.M.Jr:
Well, you have only got nine thousand --
Broughton:
That is the --
H.M.Jr:
But how many of the one hundred twenty
thousand is twenty-five dollars?
Hall:
All twenty-five's.
H.M.Jr:
A hundred and twenty thousand?
Broughton:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
Then you shifted.
Hall:
No, that figure shows all twenty-fives. It
comes under that column, you see.
H.M.Jr:
Oh, I thought you said you didn't have the
plates.
Hall:
No, I didn't say that.
H.M.Jr:
I understood you didn't have the plates.
Hall:
No, I never said anything about not having
plates. We have got plenty of plates.
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Bell:
Mr. Secretary, he is on a production basis
today of how many?
Hall:
Five hundred fifty thousand bonds are being
plate burned by the day.
H.ll.Jr:
What does that mean?
Hall:
That means they are being actually printed.
The finishing operations is where we will be
having the bottlenecks.
S.M.Jr:
I understood you said you had only so many
master plates. Now, you used that twenty-five
dollar plates - I mean, you couldn't increase
them because you were limited in the number
of plates that you had. We were talking about
going up to four hundred thousand,
Hell:
No, I don't recall saying --
H.M.Jr:
I wouldn't know what a master plate was.
Hall:
Well, we don't print with a master plate.
I don't know how that came into the conversation.
H.M.Jr:
You said you made twenty-five dollar plates.
Hall:
I think I know what you are referring to
now. We have master plates in the bath,
depositing plates, and we are taking them out
in one day rather than allowing them to
deposit for two days, cutting down the time.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I won't argue with you. I got the
impression you were limited --
Hall:
Our plates are in excellent shape, Mr. Secretary.
We are in excellent shape on plates.
H.M.Jr:
But these you are going to concentrate on that?
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Hall:
There are hundreds now being called for, so
we will have to get twenty-five, fifty and
one hundreds.
H.M.Jr:
Let me ask you, George, if-they - just take
your pencil. How much is a hundred and fifty
times twenty-five dollars.
Bell:
A hundred and fifty what, thousand?
H.M.Jr:
A hundred and fifty thousand times twenty-five
dollars. You have got to take off a quarter.
Then you have got to deduct a quarter.
Haas:
Thirty-seven fifty.
H.M.Jr:
Thirty-seven fifty what?
Haas:
Well, you have got thousands up here, have you?
H.M.Jr:
A hundred and fifty thousand at eighteen-seventy-
five.
Bell:
Three million seven hundred fifty thousand
dollars.
Graves:
Now take a quarter off, George.
Haas:
One quarter of that amount?
Graves:
Yes, because that is face value.
Bell:
You want the cash value?
H.M.Jr:
And then if you do fifty thousand --
Haas:
It is about two, six.
H.M.Jr:
Then fifty thousand, fifty dollars. That
is
two and a half million, isn't it? And
you take a quarter off that and it makes it
two million, roughly. So how much is that -
I am getting at it --
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43
Haas:
About five, now.
H.M.Jr:
You are producing about five million dollars
worth of bonds a day and you are selling
twenty-five million.
Graves:
No - well, that is correct, but the point is
that the production in the high denominations
isn't in that calculation.
Bell:
That is all bonds, you are selling twenty-
five million.
H.M.Jr:
But Harold, he has got down here on Friday
he produced a hundred and twenty thousand
twenty-five dollar bonds. Saturday he is
going to produce a hundred and fifty and fifty.
The next time a hundred and seventy-five and
seventy-five. I was trying to get the
monetary value of that.
Graves:
And relate it to this actual da ily receipt.
Hall:
There are two other denominations, Mr.
Secretary, of which they have stock in the
banks.
Graves:
Sixty percent of our dollar volume, Mr. Morgenthau,
comes or has been coming in thousand and
five hundred dollar bonds.
Here is 8. table showing the percentage of
dollar volume by denominations in twenty-five
and fifty in relation to the total sales of the
E Bond. You see, the twenty-five dollar bond
is only ten percent.
H.M.Jr:
Well, Harold, how many complaints are you
getting from people that haven't been getting
them?
Graves:
Well, we get our complaints pretty well
channelized through the Post Office Department
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here and through the Federal Reserve Banks,
and I guess all of them are complaining.
Dan will know that better than I because he
contacted them, the twelve banks, the
other day.
Bell:
No, Kilby did, but he said that they all
thought that the situation was pretty well
in hand, and they were satisfied, as I understand
it, when he talked to all of them.
Kilby:
That is right.
Broughton:
Two days ago the Post Office called up and
their urgent requirements were three hundred
thousand twenty-fives and sixty thousand
twenty-fives. A lot of the requisitions are in
hand and the Federal gets us on the wire, on
the telephone, when they are out, and it is
all twenty-fives and fifty's at the moment.
H.M.Jr:
Who gave the order to Hall to stop printing?
Did you?
Bell:
There was no order given.
Hall:
Mr. Secretary, let me explain.
Broughton:
Never heard of it.
Hall:
There must have been a misinterpretation of
what I said.
H.M.Jr:
There is no misinterpretation. If you want
some witnesses I can bring in Kuhn and Buffington.
Hall:
Well, I wish they would come in because --
H.M.Jr:
No, my word --
Hall:
I would like to relate what I said. This is
the point I was making. I made the point that
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we were misled on the production program.
We hadn't any idea of what was ahead of us.
We had an order for five million bonds to
be delivered before Christmas, for the
Christmas rush. That order was well in
hand in the early part of December. As a
matter of fact, I related the same thing in
these talks that I made before the four groups.
The first part of September we completed
that order on the first operation, wound it
up.
There were five or six operations that followed.
Before we took the plates off the press, we
called up either Spencer Thompson or Mr.
Broughton - someone in his office, Spencer
Thompson, I guess, who is handling the matter
for you (Broughton) and asked him whether
another order was coming through to keep the
presses going, so we wouldn't have to take the
plates off. He said, "No, there is nothing
in the making." So we took the plates off
and put other work - presses on the first
operation.
Bell:
Up to that time the requisitions hadn't begun
to flow in.
Hall:
No, there was no sign of any --
H.M.Jr:
But you stopped printing them.
Hall:
On the first operation. It didn't hurt our
program. I am explaining how it misled us.
H.M.Jr:
But if you stopped on the first operation
you stopped printing bonds.
Hall:
No, the first operation runs about four or
five times as fast as the other operation, so
it is a matter of catching up.
H.M.Jr:
You didn't say anything about the first
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operation. You said you had stopped printing.
You simply said that you had been told to
complete five million bonds and you told me
sometime after the first of December you did it.
You filled the orders you got and you were told
to get that many and so you stopped.
Hall:
I am sorry that you misunderstood me, Mr.
Secretary. I meant the first operation --
H.M.Jr:
Well, you never mentioned the word "first
operation." I never heard it before.
Hall:
...because following the first operation is
the most important printing operation.
H.M.Jr:
Well, you didn't - you most likely thought I
knew what the first operation was, but you left
the impression with me that the orders were to
get out five million b onds and you got those
out and then you stopped.
Hall:
Well, I couldn't make that - if I made that
statement I didn't know what I was talking
about, because there are so many operations -
printing operations that follow that
operation. The plate printing operation
was next.
Bell:
Then there was a requisition put in on the
third. It went astray, however, in the Printing
Division.
H.M.Jr:
That is the impression I had and that is
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why I told you to go to four hundred
thousand & day and buy enough machinery
80 you could go to eight hundred thousand.
I told you to send a telegram out.
Hall:
I did send a telegram out.
Bell:
But he is on a production basis today of
five hundred fifty thousand in bonds 8
day.
H.M.Jr:
I can't help it. I got the impression from
him that he stopped. He didn't say anything
more about first operations - I said, "Can
you go up to eight hundred thousand now?"
He said, "I can't make any more twenty-five
dollar plates because I haven't got enough
master plates.
Bell:
Mr. Secretary, all these orders in here,
these requisitions, don't mean that they
are out of bonds.
It means that they are sending them in ahead
of time. Now, some of them are out of
bonds.
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H.M.Jr:
Now, Dan, this is a meeting for what? So
that we don't get caught in this same posi-
tion again, see.
Bell:
That is right, I agree with that.
H.M.Jr:
That is the whole purpose. I am not trying
to - I am not creating an alibi for myself
because if Hall is criticized, who comes to
his defense? I do, publicly, but I don't
want - I don't care whether you have got
ten operations or five operations. We ought
to have enough stuff on hand and that is
where somebody, I think, fell down, and I
don't care what anybody says. In this room,
somebody fell down. We should have had
enough stock on hand for three months.
Hall:
We have. We have three months' stock in the
banks.
H.M.Jr:
Now, Hall, I am going to begin to get irri-
tated, because you told me you only were told
to have enough for two months. Now, you are
telling me an entirely different story here
than you told me in my room on the train.
Don't drive me, because I have got--
Hall:
Mr. Secretary--
H.M.Jr:
Look, these men who work for me every day
never try to trip me up on my memory. They
know my memory. Now, there is something wrong
here and this comes under Bell, and I want -
I mean, don't - on these things, the men that
work with me every day, they know my memory.
I have got & lot of weak points, but one of
the things isn't B. conversation that I had two
nights ago.
Now, Bell, please build this thing up, will
you, so that each denomination - in the first
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place, the stuff so it can cure.
Bell:
Now let me explain to you & little what
position we are in.
H.M.Jr:
There should be three months' stock in.
Bell:
We get the best estimates we can on the re-
quirements, and we get that from Mr. Graves'
section, Gene Sloan, who gives the best esti-
mate he can on what we need for a year. Now,
that has been changed two or three times
since we put in our estimate last spring.
At the present time we are on an eighteen
million dollar bond program for the year.
H.M.Jr:
Eighteen--
Bell:
Eighteen million pieces. Sixteen million of
those are twenty-five dollar pieces - Series
E, I should say, Series E Bonds.
Now, Harold tellsus--
H.V.Jr:
You see, I don't know pieces. If you talk
to me in terms of billions of dollars--
Bell:
Well, you can't because they are different
denominations.
H.M.Jr:
Well, give me B. percentage of the thing. I
mean, talk to me - if you are going to sell
five billion or ten billion - I mean, trans-
late it. Here are your percentages.
Bell:
Well, it is et little difficult to translate it
as I go along.
Graves:
I think the fact is that what I told Dan is not
to be found there because we are expecting a
complete shift.
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50
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H.M.Jr:
Let's put it this way, Dan. What is the
best guess for the first six months? How
many billions of dollars of bonds are we
going to sell from January to July l?
Bell:
Harold says that we are going to sell - the
goal is now to sell four hundred million
dollars a month.
Graves:
At least, E Bonds.
Bell:
Now, Mr. Secretary, on the average that is
fifty million pieces a year.
H.M.Jr:
Now, may I make it - instead of four, will
you make it five hundred million? I am
raising it.
Broughton:
Five hundred million?
Graves:
Yes.
Bell:
We have got to have some more money, immediately.
H.M.Jr:
All right, then, something will come out of
me. Let's make it five hundred million. Now,
how many--
Graves:
We will give the distribution by denominations
in pieces.
Bell:
That is right, yes, that is what we have got
here.
H.M.Jr:
But I would say the way the thing is going
now that is low.
Bell:
Well, I am sure in & week - in five days we
will have the full situation clear.
H.M.Jr:
That is low.
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Broughton:
Well, do you think it would be safe to
assume dollars. an average denomination of & hundred
H.M.Jr:
Now, I am no good at that.
Broughton:
You are not?
H.M.Jr:
I am no good at that.
Graves:
We can give that distribution.
H.M.Jr:
But I certainly would do this. I am going
to put down, until they tell me I am crazy,
and then if we get too many, that is all
right, see. I am going to give you a figure
of seven hundred fifty million dollars.
Bell:
On E Bonds alone?
Graves:
E Bonds?
H.M.Jr:
Yes, sir.
Bell:
We can build up the stock.
Graves:
On that basis?
Bell:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Now, I want seven hundred fifty million.
Broughton:
A month?
H.M.Jr:
A month, and when you have enough on hand
for three months' supply, then, Hall, come
around and see Papa, and in writing I will
tell you to slow down.
Hall:
It will be in writing, you can make up your
mind to that.
H.M.Jr:
In writing, see, in writing. Then you and I
Regraded Unclassified
52
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won't have any misunderstandings.
Hall:
I am sorry about it.
H.M.Jr:
That is all right. You go on another trip with
me anyway.
Hall:
I enjoyed that.
H.M.Jr:
You are talking technical printing language
and I am talking dollars, but I would aim for
seven hundred fifty million dollar E Bonds
and cut your cloth to suit that, and then
after you have got three months' supply on
hand, then you can begin to slow down. Will
you do that, Dan?
Broughton:
Yes, sir.
Bell:
It is done. We will get the money later.
Graves:
Don't you think we had better talk & little
to the Secretary about money or do you want
to do that later?
Klotz:
They are talking together about it. I love
that. You are not supposed to be listening
to that Mr. Secretary.
H.M.Jr:
I know.
Bell:
We have got to go get money, and we might as
well make up our minds to get it now. I
think that is right.
Graves:
Get it quick.
H.M.Jr:
That is what I - I don't know now many pieces
that is.
Hall:
I just made an inquiry. How many pieces?
Yes, sir.
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H.M.Jr:
I may be crazy but--
Broughton:
No.
H.M.Jr:
Old Lloyd George, he asked his whole general
staff to give him estimates. The story is an
old one. And then he said, "The amount of
ammunition they need," he said, "I multiply
it by four," and he gave it to them during
the World War and then they were short. He
just multiplied it by four and then they
were short. I am saying seven hundred fifty
until we get three months supply.
Broughton:
Right.
H.M.Jr:
And the stuff ought to cure anyway.
Gosh, when I came in here they told me a
dollar bill had to cure six months before
you could use it.
Broughton:
That is our old bond.
Bell:
That is a little different.
Graves:
You can do that.
Haas:
What?
Bell:
You see, this is & new process we have got
out here. We are really in a better position
because of this new program than we otherwise
would be.
Kilby:
We have got three million more bonds than we
otherwise would have had.
Hall:
You have got to match the numbers up with the
bond. That is what slows us up.
Bell:
And it has to be checked in Loans and Currency
54
- 16 -
before it is shipped out.
H.M.Jr:
All right, it was a good meeting. Good
night.
Hall:
Good night.
Kilby:
Good night, sir.
(Mr. Broughton, Mr. Kilby, and Mr. Hall left
the conference.)
Haas:
We have had several different plans, and I
think the most satisfactory procedure is to
get it direct from the corporations, the
statistics you want. Here would be the
information you get from each corporation
which is using the plan.
H.M.Jr:
Total number of employees, amount of payroll,
number of employees pledged, amount of aggre-
gate, amount of bonds purchased by employees
on the payroll.
Have any of you gentlemen seen this?
Graves:
Yes, I have seen it.
H.M.Jr:
Do you approve of it?
Graves:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Do you approve of it?
Bell:
George just told me about it, and I have the
general idea. It sounded all right. I don't
think you could put that on the agency system.
Haas:
The agency does not have--
Graves:
This is a short cut.
Regraded Unclassified
55
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Bell:
That is right.
Graves:
This is more direct to the employers.
Haas:
And then, Mr. Secretary, the question of - I
don't think we could get this unless we use
your signature addressing the corporations.
If that is agreeable to you, I could - I
would go over the draft of a letter with
Kuhn and with Harold Graves and so on.
H.M.Jr:
Well, look, one, two, three, anything the
three of you agree to suits me, as long as I
get it.
Haas:
The other thing was your particular thing.
You wanted weekly - I am inclinded to think
it is impractical except monthly.
H.M.Jr:
O.K.
Haas:
O.K., all right, fine. Thank you very much.
Regraded Unclassified
56
TO:
Secretary Morgenthau
DATE December 19, 1941.
FROM:
George Buffington
Walt Disney agrees to produce and deliver
on or before February 15, 1942, 700 to 800 feet of
film in technicolor with 8. tentative title "The New
Spirit" at a cost not to exceed $40,000. The Walt
Disney production will consist of one negative and
one print. The production cost will include only
out of pocket expense and does not include anything
for Mr. Disney's personal services.
Mr. Disney 1e particularly anxious to
produce a picture that will be a credit to his name
and will make every effort to keep the cost below
$40,000.
In order to cover the key motion picture
theatres as promptly 8.8 possible, Mr. Disney suggests
that we will need 1,000 extra printe. The regular
cost of producing this number would be $40,000 in
addition to Mr. Disney's charges, making 8. total cost
of $80,000. Mr. Dieney believes he can reduce the
cost of prints somewhat.
He pointe out also that with very little
added expense he believes this picture can later be
adapted for Defense Savinge Bond purposes.
Regraded Unclassified
57
LIITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS
Commarative Statement of Sales During
First Sixteen Business Days of December, November and October, 1941
(October 1-18, November 1-21, December 1-18)
On Basis of Issue Price
(Amounts in thousands of dollars)
:
:
Amount of Increase
:
Percentage of Increase
Sales
:
:
or Decrease (-)
:
or Decrease (-)
Item
:
:
:
:
December
:
November
:
December
:
November
:
December
:
November
:
October
:
over
:
over
:
over
:
over
:
:
:
:
November
:
October
:
November
:
October
Series E - Post Offices
$ 44,197
$ 27,551
$ 25,006
$16,646
$ 2,545
60.4%
10.2%
Series E - Banks
84,391
50,003
48,107
34,388
1,896
68.8
3.9
Series 3 - Total
128,588
77.555
73,113
51,033
4,442
65.8
6.1
Series Fn - Banks
13,856
13,007
13,804
849
-
797
6.5
- 5.8
Series G - Banks
81,166
77.025
75,024
4,141
2,001
5.4
2.7
Total
$223,610
$167,587
$161,942
$56,023
$ 5.645
33.4%
3.5%
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
December 19, 1941.
Source: All figures are deposite with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds
of sales of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.
Regraded Unclassified
58
UNITED STATES SAVINGS BONDS
CONFIL
Daily Sales - December 1941
On Basis of Issue Price
(In thousands of dollars)
Post Office
Bond Sales
Bank Bond Sales
All Bond Sales
Date
Series E
Series E
Series F
Series G
Total
Series E
Series F
Series G
Total
December 1941
1
$ 2,976
$ 3,904
$ 1,333
$ 7,220
$ 12,458
$ 6,880
$ 1,333
s 7,220
$ 15,434
2
1,229
2,592
623
5.750
8,964
3,821
623
5.750
10,193
3
1,510
2,734
870
5,289
8,893
4,244
870
5,289
10,403
4
2,411
4,036
726
7,530
12,292
6,447
726
7.530
14,703
5
2,015
4,805
1,152
12,357
18,314
6,820
1,152
12,357
20,329
6
1,001
2,293
656
2,776
5.725
3,294
656
2.776
6,726
8
3,282
4,764
1,011
3,810
9.585
8,046
1,011
3,810
12,866
9
1,828
3,877
601
4,996
9.475
5,706
601
4,996
11,304
10
1,651
3.566
491
2,612
6,668
5,217
491
2,612
8,320
11
1,909
4.763
719
3.423
8,905
6,672
719
3,423
10,814
12
2,773
5,012
658
3.768
9.437
7.785
658
3.768
12,211
13
2,767
5,030
584
2,120
7.734
7.798
584
2,120
10,501
15
7,185
11,679
1,022
4,462
17,162
15,864
1,022
4,462
24,347
16
2,113
3,956
893
1,901
6,750
6,069
693
1,901
8,863
17
4,164
9.750
1,180
6,327
17,257
13,914
1,180
6,327
21,421
18
5,382
11,630
1,337
6,826
19,793
17,012
1,337
6,826
25,175
Total
$ 44,197
$ 84,391
$ 13,856
$ 81,166
$179,413
$128,588
$ 13,856
$ 81,166
$223,610
Office of the Secretary of the Treasury, Division of Research and Statistics.
December 19, 1941.
Source: All figures are deposits with the Treasurer of the United States on account of proceeds of sales
of United States savings bonds.
Note: Figures have been rounded to nearest thousand and will not necessarily add to totals.
Regraded Unclassified
59
25,
U. S.SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES E, TYPE A
STOCK ACCOUNT OF LOANS AND CURRENCY VAULT
Report for December 19, 1941
Total
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Pieces
On hand c.o.b. Dec. 18
9,653
9,722
102,126
45,149
128,181
294,831
Received from Bureau Dec. 19
120,000
120,000
.....
Total
129,653
9,722
102,126
45,149
128,181
414,831
Shipments
123,640
1,460
59.955
22,167
23,211
230.433
On hand c.o.b. Dec. 19
6,013
8,262
42,171
22,982
104,970
184,398
Estimated deliveries to be received from Bureau of Engraving and Printing:
Saturday, Dec. 20
150,000
50,000
200,000
Sunday,
Dec. 21
....
175,000
75.000
250,000
Monday,
Dec. 22
....
150,000
75,000
25,000
250,000
Regraded Unclassified
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 1, TYPE & 60
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF ISSUING AGENTS
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pisces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18
Federal Reserve Banks
324,040
254,060
204,655
45,037
45,061
872.853
P. 0. Department
706,000
305,000
275,000
30,000
30,000
1,346,000
Others
Total
1,030,040
559,060
479,655
75,037
75,061
2,218,853
Requisitions received Dec. 19
Federal Reserve Banks
110,600
68,400
66,300
31,130
35,150
311,580
P. 0. Department
Others
800
200
100
8
1,120
Total
111,400
68,600
66,400
31,150
35,150
312,700
Totals -
Federal Reserve Banks
434,640
322,460
270,955
76,167
80,211
1,184,433
P. o. Department
706,000
305,000
275,000
30,000
30,000
1,346,000
Others
800
200
100
20
1,120
Total
1,141,440
627,660
546,055
106,187
110,211
2,531,553
Shipments Dec. 19
Federal Reserve Banks.
63,640
1,460
39.955
17,167
18,211
140,433
P. O. Department
60,000
20,000
5,000
5,000
90,000
Others
Total
123,640
1,460
59,955
22,167
23,211
230,433
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
Federal Reserve Banks
371,000
321,000
231,000
59,000
62,000
1,044,000
P. 0. Department
646,000
305,000
255,000
25,000
25,000
1,256,000
Others
800
200
100
20
1,120
Total
1,017,500
626,200
486,100
84,020
87,000
2,301,120
Regraded Unclas
61
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES E, TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF BOSTON
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$100
$1,000
Total
$50
$500
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18
22,000
....
10,000
....
....
32,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
....
....
....
....
....
Total
22,000
....
10,000
....
32,000
Shipments Dec. 19
5,000
....
5,000
....
10,000
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
17,000
....
5,000
....
....
22,000
Regraded Uncla
62
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES E, TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18
110,000
72,000
115,000
35,000
40,000
372,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
....
....
....
....
....
Total
110,000
72,000
115,000
35,000
40,000
372,000
Shipments Dec. 19
15,000
....
10,000
5,000
10,000
40,000
due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
95,000
72,000
105,000
30,000
30,000
332,000
Regraded Unclass
63
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES E, TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF PHILADELPHIA
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18
3,000
10,000
....
....
....
13,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
25,000
25,000
25,000
15,000
25,000
115,000
Total
28,000
35,000
25,000
15,000
25,000
128,000
Shipments Dec. 19
....
....
....
....
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19.....
28,000
35,000
25,000
15,000
25,000
128,000
Regraded Unclassi
64
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES E, TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF Cleveland
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18
35,000
20,000
....
....
55,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
50,000
25,000
25,000
10,000
5,000
115,000
Total
85,000
45,000
25,000
10,000
5,000
170,000
Shipments Dec. 19
5,000
....
5,000
ae on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
50,000
45,000
25,000
10,000
5,000
165,000
Regraded Unclassifie
65
U. 8, SAVINGS BONDS, SHRIES 1, TIPS A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE , TV BANK OF RICHMOND
Report of December 19. 1941
Total
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Pieces
he ⑉ requisitions c.o.b. Bee. 18
23,040
9,060
655
37
61
32,853
Requisitions received Des. 19
600
400
300
130
150
1,900
Total
23,640
9,460
955
167
all
34,433
Shipped Doe. 19
7,640
1,460
955
167
211
10,433
es requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
16,000
5,000
...
...
...
24,000
66
U. 8. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 3, TIPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATLANTA
Report of December 19, 1941
Total
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Pisces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18.....
8,000
10,000
5,000
...
...
23,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
Total
8,000
10,000
5,000
...
...
23,000
Shipped Dec. 19
2.000
2,000
on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19.....
6,000
10,000
5,000
...
...
21,000
Regraded Uncla
67
U. 8. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES B. TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF ATTANTA, NEW ORLEANS BRANCH
Report of December 19. 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18
13,000
5,000
...
...
...
18,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
...
...
...
...
...
Total
13,000
5,000
...
...
...
18,000
Shipped Dec. 19
2,000
...
...
2,000
las on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
11,000
5,000
...
...
16,000
Regraded Unclass
68
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 3, TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF CHICAGO
Report of Becember 19, 1941
#25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due 62 requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18.....
10,000
15,000
...
5,000
...
30,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
...
...
...
...
Total
10,000
15,000
...
5,000
...
30,000
Shipped Dec. 19
5,000
...
...
5,000
...
10,000
02 requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
5,000
15,000
...
...
...
20,000
Regraded Unclassi
69
U.S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 3. TIPE &
ENQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THER your beloing DATE OF ST. LOUIS
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due as requisitions c.a.b. Dec. 18.....
9,000
13,000
4,000
...
...
26,000
Requisitions reseived Dec. 19
15,000
8,000
8,000
4,000
3,000
38,000
Total
24,000
21,000
12,000
4,000
3,000
64,000
Shipments Dec. 19
2,000
...
4,000
2,000
3,000
11,000
on requisitions c.o.b. Des. 19.....
22,000
21,000
8,000
2,000
...
53,000
Regraded Unclass
70
U. 8. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 1. TIPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF THE Federal RESERVE RAME OF MEMITAPOLIS
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due OR requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18.....
15,000
15,000
10,000
...
...
40,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
...
...
...
...
...
...
Total
25,000
15,000
10,000
...
...
40,000
Shipments Dec. 19
5,000
...
5,000
...
...
10,000
as on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
10,000
15,000
5,000
...
...
30,000
Regraded Uncla
71
U.S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 1. TIPS A
ERQUISITION ACCOUNT OF M RAWK OF KANSAS CITY
Report of December 19. 1941
$25
$50
$1.00
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Des. 18.....
7,000
10,000
5,000
...
...
Requisitions received Des. 19
20,000
10,000
8,000
2,000
2,000
42,000
Total.
27,000
20,000
13,000
2,000
2,000
Ch,coo
Shipments Des, 19
2,000
...
you
...
...
2,000
a requisitions c.o.b. Des. 19....
25,000
20,000
13,000
2,000
2,000
62,000
72
U. 8. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 1, TIPS A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF TXA maing BANK OF DALLAS
Report of December 19, 1941
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Total
Pieces
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 18.....
29,000
25,000
15,000
...
...
69,000
Requisitions received Dec. 19
...
...
...
...
...
...
Total
29,000
25,000
15,000
...
...
69,000
Shipments Dec. 19
5,000
...
5,000
...
...
10,000
20 on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
24,000
25,000
10,000
...
...
59,000
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73
U. S. SAVINGS BONDS, SERIES 1, TYPE A
REQUISITION ACCOUNT OF FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO
Report of December 19, 1941
Total
$25
$50
$100
$500
$1,000
Pieces
Due on requisitions e.e.b. Dec. 18
40,000
50,000
40,000
5,000
5,000
140,000
Requisitiens received Dec. 19
Total
40,000
50,000
40,000
5,000
5,000
140,000
Shipped December 19
8,000
10,000
5,000
5,000
28,000
Due on requisitions c.o.b. Dec. 19
......
32,000
50,000
30,000
.....
112,000
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74
Henry m.
Cabinet
Loc 19th
1941
74
12/19/41
Given to HM, Jr at Cabinet today by
Secretary Wickard.
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
Henry
you weren't
here just now
when I announeed
that we are selling
government wheat
since last Monday,
Futures only Hucluate
a fraction of ant a
day now. Claude W.
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75
December 19, 1941
Dear Claude:
Dan Bell has told me of the stato-
ment made by Sen. Nye at yesterday's hear-
ing before Sen. Byrd. I understand that
Sen. Nye indicated I had made the state-
ment that larger savings could be made in
the Department of Agriculture.
In order to keep the record straight,
I would like you to know it was my sugges-
tion that you be invited to appear before
the Committee before any action was taken
on your appropriations, and that you be
asked to show where specific cuts could
be made on a basis of saving $500,000,000
or more.
Yours sincerely,
Henry.
Honorable Claude R. Wickard,
The Secretary of Agriculture,
Washington, D.C.
By messinger 11:40A.M.M.-
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76
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON
December 19, 1941
Dan Bell has trea me
indicated
of the statement at made
by Sen Trye
That I the had statement
Dear Claude:
made that largr coungs
could be
I have just read the minutes of
made
-
yesterday's hearing before Sen. Byrd.
I notice that Sen. Nye tried to give The Dept
you the impression that it was his
44 Ford
suggestion that you appear before the
2
agre.
Committee and explain how much money
you could save. In order to keep the
record straight, I would like you to
know it was my suggestion that you be
invited to appear before the Committee
and not Sen. Nye's.
Yours sincerely,
A
of W / &
before say
a
action was
Taken on your
Honorable Claude R. Wickard,
Secretary of Agriculture, affrabriations
Washington, D.C.
and that your he
assed To show
Could he made on * have
whome cuts)
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77
MEMORANDUM
20:
Secretary Morgenthau
December 19, 1941.
FROM:
Mr. Sullivan
TLS
For your Information re State Taxation of Defense Activities.
The War and Navy Departments are proposing that legislation be
enacted relieving defense activities from State sales taxation. This
would in effect reverse the result of the Supreme Court's decision in
the King & Boozer et al. case, which subjected such defense activities
to State sales taxation (with the exception of the situation in which
the State sales tax was on the purchaser and the United States was
the purchaser).
The Treasury Department has reported to the Bureau of the Budget
that it 18 opposed to such legislation on the ground that it would
deprive the States of needed revenues and interfere with our position
respecting tax exempt State securities.
In order to eliminate administrative problems that may arise in
this field, because of the difficulty of ascertaining whether or not a
State sales tax is applicable, some legislation may be necessary to
clarify the situation. You will recall that after the above decision
was rendered the President asked you to study the type of legislation
which would be desirable, It is my suggestion that this could be
done by having the Federal Government consent to State sales taxation
in all cases, regardless of the legal incidence of the tax and regard-
less of whether the United States or the defense contractor is the
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78
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purchaser of the commodities in question. Since at present defense
activities are subject to State sales taxation in all cases except
where the tax 1s on the purchaser and the United States is the pur-
chaser, the additional burden would not be significant. By thus
making all transactions taxable, the legal questions that now arise
as to the scope of State sales taxes would be eliminated.
The policy question, therefore, is whether to clarify the situation
by subjecting defense activities to State sales taxation as is suggested
above or by withdrawing such activities from State taxation as the
War and Navy Departments recommend. After a conference in the Burean
of the Budget yesterday, it was decided that the Bureau Director would
submit the above question of policy to the President.
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Treasury Department
79
Division of Monetary Research
Date December 20,
19
41
To:
Secretary Morgenthau
H. D. White
From:
British joint taxation of husband and wife
as possible deterrent to employment of
married women.
Reports from Mr. Casaday reveal
Parliamentary and press criticism that
joint taxation deters married women from
working outside the home, alleging that
the additional tax plus extra expenses
(due to the wife's absence from home) may
exceed the wife's contribution to the
family income.
In reply to this criticism, the Chan-
cellor of the Exchequer says the tax paid
by 8 married couple is often less under
joint taxation than it would be under
sparate assessment, due to the exemption
NI nine-tenths of the wife's earned income
up to stipulated limits.
Some sections at least of the finan-
cial press are not satisfied with the
Chancellor's reply, and urge him to "take
fresh advice on this really urgent question".
Copies to: Mr. Bell
Mr. Foley
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Paul
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
80
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 19,1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
H. D. White
PROM
subject: British Joint taxation of husband and wife 28 a
possible deterrent to the employment of married
women.
Information received from Mr. Casaday reveals that
allegations have been made in Parliament and the press,
and by Inland Revenue experts, that joint taxation 1s a
merious obstacle to the Government's plan to attract women
into industry. These critics hold that in many cases the
present tax penalizes married women who work outside the
home, alleging that the additional income tax olus extra
expenses (due to the wife's absence from home) may exceed
the wife's contribution to the family income.
In reply to this criticism, the Chancellor of the Ex-
chequer states that, in many cases, the tax burden ie less
under joint taxation than it would be under separate 888898-
ment, In support of this statement, he points out that,
under the present law, a married couple 1s allowed an exemp-
tion of $560, if the husband alone receives an income. But
if the wife 18 working this exemption may be increased to a
taximum of 8740 (by nine-tenths of the wife's earned income,
but not more than $180. $560 4 $150 - $740). On the other
hand, if each were assessed 8.6 a single person with 8320
exemption, their combined exemption would amount to only
$640.
Some sections at least of the financial press are not
satisfied with the Chancellor's reply. An editorial in the
Financial News states that the Tressury has always refused
to treat married women's incomes separately on the grounde
that the Exchequer cannot afford the financial sacrifice,
rejects the Chancellor's statement that joint assessment
is not a deterrent to production, and urges the Chancellor
to *take fresh advice on this really urgent question".
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81
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
December 19, 1941
My dear Mr. Secretary:
By virtue of the authority vested in - by the pro-
visions of the appropriation entitled "Emergency Fund for the
President" contained in the Independent Offices Appropriation
Act, 1942, approved April 5, 1941, I hereby allocate from the
fund of $100,000,000 provided by the said appropriation as
follows:
To
Amount
The Director of Censorship
$100,000
to be expended by the Director of Censorship, or such officer
or employee as he may designate for the purpose, for carrying
out the functions and duties prescribed in the Executive order
establishing the Office of Censorship and prescribing its
functions and duties, issued by the President December 19, 1941.
The funds hereby allocated shall be available for all
necessary expenses of the Director of Censorship in carrying out
the above-described activities, including not to exceed $20,000
for the temporary employment of persons or organizations by
contract or otherwise without regard to section 3709 of the
Revised Statues, or the classification laws; travel expenses,
including actual transportation expenses, and not to exceed $10
per diem in lieu of subsistence and other expenses of persons
serving as advisers while away from their homes without other
compensation from the United States; printing and binding; the
purchase of one automobile, law books, books of reference, and
newspapers and periodicals.
Very sincerely yours,
The Honorable,
The Secretary of the Treasury.
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82
THE ATTORNEY GENERAL
WASHINGTON
December 19, 1941
diary
My dear Mr. Secretary:
I an inclosing you herewith a
copy of an Executive order signed today
by the President, with reference to the
Office of Censorship. I am also sending
a copy to the other members of the Censorship
Policy Board.
Sincerely trincisional yours,
The Honorable,
The Secretary of the Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
83
EXECUTIVE ORDER
ESTABLISHING THE OFFICE OF CENSORSHIP AND PRESCRIB-
ING ITS FUNCTIONS AND DUTIES
By virtue of the authority vested in ne by the Constitution and the statutes of
the United States, and particularly by section 303, Title III of the act of December 18,
1941, Public Law 354, 77th Congress, 1st Session, and deeming that the public safety demands
it, I hereby order as follows:
1, There 18 hereby established the Office of Censorship, at the head of which
shall be a Director of Censorship. The Director of Censorship shall cause to be censored,
in his absolute discretion, communications by mail, cable, radio, or other means of trans.
atssion passing between the United States and any foreign country or which may be carried
by any vessel or other means of transportation touching at any port, place, or Territory of
the United States and bound to or from any foreign country, in accordance with such rules
me regulations as the Fresident shall from time to time prescribe. The establishment of
rules and regulations in addition to the provisions of this order shall not be a condition
to the exercise of the powers herein granted or the censorship by this order directed. The
scope of this order shall include all foreign countries except such as may hereafter be ex-
pressly excluded by regulation.
2, There is hereby created a Censorship Polloy Bourd, which shall consist of the
Vice-President of the United States, the Secretary of the Treasury, the Secretary of War, the
Attorney General, the Postmaster General, the Secretary of the Navy, the Director of the
Office of Government Reports, and the Director of the Office of Pacts and Figures. The
Postmaster General shall act as Chairman of the Board. The Censcrship Policy Board shall
advise the Director of Censorship with respect to policy and the coordination and integra-
tion of the consorship herein directed.
3. The Director of Censorship shall establish a Censorship Operating Board, which
unall consist of representatives of such departments and agencies of the Government as the
Director shall specify. Each representative shall be designated by the head of the depart-
bent or agency which he represents, The Censorship Operating Board shall, under the super-
vision of the Director, perform such duties with respect to operations as the Director shall
determine.
4. The Director of Censorship is authorized to take all such measures as may be
necessary or expedient to administer the powers hereby conferred, and, in addition to the
utilization of existing personnel of any department or agency available therefor, to employ,
or authorize the employment of. such additional personnel as he may deem requisite.
5, As used in this order the term "United States" shall be construed to include
the Territories and possessions of the United States, including the Philippine Islands.
The WHITE HOUSE,
December 19, 1942
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84
DEC 19 1941
emorandum for the President
Attached are draft cables to the High Commissioner
of the Philippines and the Covernor of Hawaii providing
A. procedure for the destruction by burning there, and
the reissuence hers, of checks, currency and public and
private securities. The destruction would take place in
the presence of a Destruction Committee of United States
Government officials In the event the military situation
makes such action necessary.
The procedure has been worked out jointly by the
Jureau of Insular Affairs, the Department of the Interior,
and the Treasury Department, and has the approval of
Secretary Ickes and myself.
If you approve, the necessary instructions to set
up the procedure will be sent to the respective High
Commissioner and the Governor today.
(Signed) 8. Corgenthau, so.
Approved
Delivered by Secret Jemes
2:45
Attachments.
EHF:mp 12/19/41
Regraded Unclassified
85
DRAFT OF CABLE TO BE TRANSMITTED
TO THE GOVERNOR OF HAWAII
Re my radio of December 19 . President directs that you
make adequate arrangements in cooporation with the military
authorities, if necessary, for complete destruction by burning of
all securities, cheeks and surrency deposited if, in your judgment,
the military situation 00 requires and that you or your designated
agent immediately thereupon certify to the Treasury Department all
securities, checks and currency which are listed on affidavite
previously filed with the Treasury Department that have been ⑉
destroyed. For this purpose you should designate a group of
United States Government officials to act as a special destruction
committee and such committee, if pessible, should also certify to
the destruction.
FEmrd - 12/18/41.
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86
DRAFT or CABLE TO ME TRANSMITTED
to THE GOVERNOR OF MAWALI
In order to proteet the interests of owners or holders of United States
Government securities, checks and currency in Hawaii the Treasury Department
has approved the following procedure for deposit and safekeeping of such securities,
checks and currendy during the national energency declared by the President on
May 27, 1941. This procedure applies to al. United States Government securities,
cheeks and currency, even though blocked countries of nationale thereof have an
interest therein or such securities have stamped thereon or otherwise attached
ther to any tax or other stamp or notarial or similar seal of any blooked country.
This procedure is to be administered by you and such members of your staff or agents
:- you may designate.
A. The owner or holder of United States Government securities, sheeks or
currency to be deposited should prepare an effidavit in six counterparts
setting forths
de Name, address and citizenship of affient and of all persons having
any interest in securities, checks or currency listed and nature of
such interests.
2. List of securities by title, loan, interest rate, denomination,
serial number, form of registration if registered, number and dates
of coupons of coupon securities, and a description of any tax or
other stamp or noturial or similar real of a blocked country which
may appear on such securities.
3. Date and source of acquisition of coupon securities by present
owner or holder.
4. In the case of currency, - 11st of such currancy by kinds and
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87
demominations, and, in the care of Federal Become motoo, the name
Regraded Unclassified
of the bank of issue.
5. In the case of Government cheeks, that is Government checks drawn on
the Treasurer of the United States or other authorised depositery,
a list of such checks by dates, amounts, name of payee, name of drawer,
symbol number (If any), and names of indorsers (if any).
6. À request that the securition, checks or currency be accepted for safekeep-
ing during the national emergency dellared by the President on Day 27, 1941.
7. A request that, in the event of destruction of such securities, ebeeks or
curreney, substitute securities, checks or currency or check in payment be
issued by the Treasury Department and be held for the account of the
depositer or delivered to a designated bank, corporation or individual
in the continental United States.
All of the foregoing ifformation 1a susential.
B. The affient should execute sach counterpart of the affidavit, which shall be
numbered 1 to 6, under eath in the presence of # designated officer or agent.
The list of securities, checks and currency shall be checked against the Items
deposited and the designated officer or agent shall certify under official
seal on each counterpart na to the deposit and verification. Counterparts
numbered 1 through 3 shall be forwarded by separate mouns to "Treasury Do-
partment, Rashington, D.C."; counterpart numbered 4 shall be retained by
the designated officer of agents counterpart numbered 5 shall be delivered
to the depositor; counterpart numbered 6 shall be placed with the securities,
checks and currency in a sealed envelope which shall be properly identified.
C. In the event of destruction of securities, cheeks or currency so deposited,
If the ovidence is satisfactory and acceptable to the secretary of the Treasury,
and subject to all applicable law, substitute securities, checks or surrency or
88
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check in payment will be issued by the Treasury Department and be held
for the account of the depositor of delivered to the designated bank,
corporation or individual in the continental United States.
You my also accept for safekesping, under a procedure similar to
that outlined above, securities other than those of the United States
Government, provided it is understood by the depositor that neither you
nor the United States.Covernment assume any responsibility.
The President approves this procedure and, unless there are strong
reasons which in your spendon could make this action inadvisable, desires
that you put it into effect immediately and that you make arrangements,
with the silitary authorities, if necessary, for the safekeeping of such
securities and currency at such place as you may dees advisable.
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89
The Secretary of the Interior
Seal)
Washington
December 18, 1941.
Dear llenry:
The proposed cablegram to the High Commissioner of the
Philippine Islands and the Governor of Hawaii regarding the
safekeeping of securities and currency during the national
emergency, which has been drafted jointly by members of
your staff and mine, meets with my approval. If you also
approve the draft, I will appreciate it if you will discuss
it with the President when you see him tomorrow morning,
as I do not expect to have an early appointment with him.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ HAROLD L. ICKES
Secretary of the Interior
Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury.
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90
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
WASHINGTON
DEC 19 NM
Memorandum for the President
Attached are draft cables to the High Commissioner
of the Philippines and the Governor of Hawaii providing
a procedure for the destruction by burning there, and
the reissuance here, of checks, currency and public and
private securities. The destruction would take place in
the presence of a Destruction Committee of United States
Government officials in the event the military situation
makes such action necessary.
The procedure has been worked out jointly by the
Bureau of Insular Affairs, the Department of the Interior,
and the Treasury Department, and has the approval of
Secretary Ickes and myself.
If you approve, the necessary instructions to set
up the procedure will be sent to the respective High
Commissioner and the Governor today.
Approved
Firshten Massiveh
Attachments.
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31
TransIation of Radiogram in Code Sent December 19, 1941.
deb
ALTERY NITA.
Secember 19 - So. 719.
In order to protect the interests of owners or holders of United States
Avvernment securities, checks end currency in Philippines the Treasury De-
pertnedt he e negroved the following procedure for deposit and mafekeeping
such securities. checks and currency during the national emergency de-
plared by the President on May 27, 1941. This procedure annlies to all
lited States Government securities, checks and currency, even though blocked
countries or nationals thereof have an interest therein or such securities
LIFE stemped thereon or otherwise attached thereto any tax or other stamp
or anterial or similar seal of any blocked country. This procedure is to be
administered by you end such members of your staff or agents as you may
declarate.
he The owner or holder of United States Government securities, checks
or currency to be deposited should prepare an affidavit in six
counterparts setting forth:
1. Name, address and citizenship of affient and of all persons
having any interest in securities, checke or currency listed
end nature of such interests.
3. List of securities by title, loan, interest rate, denomination,
serial number, form of registration if registered, number end
dates of coupons of coupon securities, end , description of
any tex or other stemp or notarial or similar seal of a
blocked country which may avyeer on such securities.
3. Date and source of acquisition of coupon securities by present
owner or holder.
it. In the case of currency, B list of such currency by kinds and
denominations, end, in the case of Federal Reserve notes, the
name of the bank of issue.
5-
In the case of Government checks, that is, Government checks
drewn on the Treasurer of the United States or other authorized
decositary. a list of such checks by dates, emounts, name of
payee, name of drawer, symbol number (If any), and names of
indorsers (if eny).
E.
A request that the securities, checks or currency be accepted
for safekeeping during the national emergency declared by the
President on May 27. 1941.
7. A request that, in the event of destruction of such securities,
checks or currency, substitute securities. checks, or DIFFERENCY
or check in payment be issued by the Treasury Department and
be held for the account of the depositor or delivered to n.
designated bank, corporation or individual in the continental
United States.
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92
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All of the foregoing information 1s mosential.
B. The affiant should execute each counterpart of the affidavit,
which shall be numbered 1 to 6, under oath in the presence of a
designated officer or agent. The liet of securities, checks and
currency shall be checked against the items deposited and the
designated officer or agent shall certify under official seal
on each counterpart as to the deposit and verification. Counter-
parts numbered 1 through 3 shall be forwarded by separate means
to "Treasury Department, Weshington, D. C."; counterpart numbered
4 shall be retained by the designated officer or agent; counter-
part numbered 5 shall be delivered to the depositor: counterpart
numbered 6 shell be placed with the securities, checke and cur-
rency in el sealed envelope which shell be properly identified.
C. In the event of destruction of securities, checks or currency so
deposited, if the evidence is setisfactory and acceptable to the
Secretary of the Treasury, and subject to all applicable law,
substitute securities, checke or currency or check in payment will
be issued by the Treasury Department and be held for the account
of the depositor or delivered to the designated bank, corporation
or individual in the continental United States.
You may also accept for safekeeping, under a procedure similar
to that outlined above, securities other then those of the United
States Government, provided it ie understood by the depositor that
neither you nor the United States Government assume any responsibility.
The President approves this procedure and, unless there are
strong reasons which in your opinion would make this action in-
advisable, desires that you put it into effect immediately and
that you meice arrangements with the militery authorities for the
sufekeeping of such securities and currency at Corregidor. Harold
L. Ickes.
SWOPE.
the copy
1-3-43
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0
93
P
I
Translation of Radiogram in Code Sent December 19, 1941.
deb.
SATRE, MANILA.
December 19 - No. 720.
3e my radio of December 19, President directs that you make adequate
arrangements in cooperation with military authorities for complete destruction
by burning of all securities, checks and currency deposited if, in your judgment.
the military situation so requires and that you or your designated agent 1m-
mediately thereupon certify to the Treasury Department all securities, checks
and currency which are listed on affidavits previously filed with the Treasury
Department that have been so destroyed. For this purpose you should designate
a group of United States Government officials to act as a special destruction
committee and such committee, if possible. should also certify to the destruction.
Harold L. Ickes.
SWOPE.
Copy:1c:1/5/42
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94
OFFICE OF PRODUCTION MANAGEMENT
SOCIAL SECURITY BUILDING
WASHINGTON, D.C.
OFFICE OF
DOUGLAS C, MACKEACHIE
DIRECTOR - PURCHASES
December 19, 1941
Monorable Henry Morgenthau
Secretary of the Treasury
weahington, D. C.
Desr b. Lorgenthau:
You mentioned quinine the other night and I am happy
to call to your attention the attached report which I believe
indicates that we are reasonably well supplied with this
important product.
Very truly yours,
Douglas C. MacKeachie
attachment
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95
C
0
F
Y
Room 2615, Social Security Bldg.
December 16, 1941
EMPRAYDUM
TO:
Mr. Douglas C. mackeachie
Director of Purchases
Room 5027, Social Security Bldg.
Birth
William M. Bristol, Jr.
SUBJECT:
Quinine
in response to your telephone call of today, i am pleased to give you
the following information:
By Executive Order, the Treasury Department established a stockpile
of 7,200,000 ounces of quine. This is frozen and cannot be removed
except by Government order. Collaborating with the Defense Supplies
Corporation, there has been authorized an additional stockpile of 2
million ounces, of which 500,000 ounces are afloat. In the meantime,
there have been additional quantities coming in regularly, which
have been permitted to flow through the usual trade channels.
The estimated annual consumption amounts to from 3 to 32 million ounces.
Therefore, we believe we have more than three years' available supply
in the country or afloat at the present time.
It is my intention to bring this matter up before the Technical Council
at its next meeting, to determine whether restrictive orders should
to issuei.
/s/ WILLIA L. BRISTOL, Jr.
Assistant Director of Purchases
In charge of Health Supplies Branch
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96
December 19, 1941.
The Honorable,
The Secretary of War.
Dear Mr. Secretary:
I have your letter of December 17, 1941, relating
to the requested closing agreement covering the Pan-
American Airways matter.
I have asked Mr. John L. Sullivan, Assistant
Secretary of the Treasury, to represent me in resolving
this problem. Mr. Sullivan will telephone Mr. Amberg
and arrange for a conference at which I hope this matter
can be settled.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) n. Mergenthan, in
Secretary of the Treasury.
CLK:gmb 12/18/41
By Messanger Sturges pm 6:40
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76.
war DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
CONFIDENTIAL
10
580,82 (11-25-41)MC-D
DEC 17 1941
the Honorable,
The Secretary of the Treasury.
Dear lbr. Secretary:
As a result of the outbreak of hostilities in-
welving the United States, the necessity for expediting the
development of air fields in the Caribbean and South American
areas as mentioned in your letter of November 25, 1941 has as-
sumed new importance. The interests of National Defense de-
mand the earliest possible execution of the proposed supplement
to the War Department - Pan American Airports Corporation con-
tract of November 2, 1940.
I regret that the existing state of War places such
demands upon us both as to preclude the possibility of our
conferring together with respect to the extension to the modi-
fied contract of the tax indemnification features of the
original contract.
As an alternative method of responding to the request
in the closing paragraph of your letter of November 25, 1941, I
- designating Mr. Julius H. Amberg, Special Assistant to the
Secretary of War, as my authorised representative to present to
your authorized representative my views on this subject.
If this arrangement meets with your approval, I
would suggest that your representative communicate with Mr.
Amberg and arrange a meeting at the earliest possible date.
Sincerely yours,
Henry < Shinson
Secretary of War.
CONFIDENTIAL
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98
December 19, 1941.
MEMORANDUM
TO: Secretary Morgenthau
FROM: Mr. Gaston
Mrs. Betsy Cushing Roosevelt
and her two children live at 520 East
86th Street, New York, in Yorkville.
This building and two connecting
buildings, operated as a unit by the
Astor estate, are staffed largely by
men of German origin. Some are sus-
pected Nazis. Secret Service has re-
ported observations about them to
F.B.I. and Chief Wilson has suggested
to Captain James Roosevelt that it
would be better if the family moved
to another locality. I have the re-
port of the agents if you would care
to see it.
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99
MEMORANDUM FOR THE SECRETARY.
December 19, 1941.
Mail Report
Reading the mail as it has come in this week, it
has proved difficult not to put aside most of it for
quotations on the abstract. The whole tenor has changed
from that of sharp criticism to the heartiest support.
The great majority of the letters speak of Defense
sonds and Stamps. Report after report tells of increased
sales, and the only complaints are those of the mechanics
of handling the bonds; insufficient force at Post Office
windows: insufficient supply of bonds on hand at banks, etc.
The suggestion which appears most often is that the
name be changed from Defense Bonds to Victory Bonds. The
next most frequent term is, "Remember Pearl Harbor".
There are all sorts of suggestions for stamps, buttons,
windshield stickers, with the "Remember Pearl Harbor"
alogan, to be sold at anywhere from 8. cent to fifty-cents
a piece. A number of firms and individuals have asked
for permission to issue such souvenirs, the proceeds to
De turned over to the Government.
Cash contributions have been coming in every mail.
Some "sample" letters transmitting money are included,
but here again, it is hard to pick and choose. Amounts
vary from 10d to $1,000. There are a great many Bonds
and Defense Stamps sent in to be cancelled. A tabulation
of gifts received the first four days of this week will
be found at the end of the report.
Abusive mail has practically ceased, although there
have been one or two nasty anonymous letters.
Tax mail has also practically ceased to exist, al-
Inough the few letters that do come in, contain pledges
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Memorandum for the Secretary.
December 19, 1941.
of willingness to pay or suggestions as to raising
money. The economy note continues to run through these
letters, even though it is mentioned less often and
less urgently.
get orbush
Holiday Note: The soldiers quartered on the fourth floor
have hopefully hung B. large spray of mistletoe over the
door entering their quarters. Come up and see them sometime!
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Comments from Letters OFFERING SUPPORT in
Present Emergency
David Higuers, Barre, Vermont. In the heart of this city
there is 8. Spanish Club. The members of this Club for the
Dast five years have been active against our enemy, Hitler.
We have been giving money to different organizations. Now
more than ever we want to destroy Hitler and his servants
by giving direct aid to our Government. I would like to
know if the Treasury Department would accept money as &
gift. If not, which national organization will accept
money.
Virgil H. Frazier, President, Aga Aviation Corp., Willow
Grove, Pa.
In line with the timely and worthy sug-
gestion of Drew and Allen we discussed that proposal in
our fifteen minute meeting of the entire personnel. Each
and every person agreed to give New Year's Day to the
Government. We will all work that day, and the checks for
that day's wages will be endorsed by the workers and sent
to the Treasury of the United States. The Company will
donete its profit for that day and send this to the Treasury.
Every person here wants to help. We are making er-
rangements to purchase Defense Bonds and Stamps. The workers
themselves are arranging to put aside 8 certain amount of
their overtime to purchase Bonds and Stemps.
0. A. Crain, Fort Worth, Texas.
I was retired from
actual duty 8.5 a railroad fireman on account of having lost
my eyesight and hearing: have since (by an operation) ne-
gained my sight, but not my hearing. I was placed on the
Railroad Pension Rolls for the amount of $25 per month, to
receive that amount for life. This, and $2 per month that
I receive from my Masonic Lodge is my entire income.
collar per month from my pension check, and this letter will
Like the widow who gave her mite, I went you to deduct one
be authority for the Railroad Retirement Board to deduct, and
pay over to you, one dollar per month from my pension check,
for the entire duration; and please understand that I want
to ive this amount to my Country - don't want any stamps or
nything.
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Offers of Support Accompanied by ACTUAL CONTRIBUTIONS
Felix Brunner, N.Y.C. As 6. Czechoslovak and as an immigrant
who is happy to have found shelter in this country for his
family, and for himself, I was deeply impressed by Hitler's
declaration of war against the United States. Feeling that
en all out effort is necessary to crush Hitlerism, I beg
to accept my enclosed check per $100 as a modest and whole-
hearted contribution to America's great task of arming
against all her enemies.
Aline Rather, Principal, San Antonio Independent School
District, San Antonio, Texas. I am enclosing 8. check in
the amount of $50 which is B. contribution from the children
and the P.T.A. of the John J. Pershing Elementary School
to our Government to aid the National Defense Fund. We are
sending this with great pleasure, and in honor of General
John J. Pershing, for whom our school was named.
Dr. Anson Hoyt, Pasadena, Calif., sends his check for $125,
the difference between the issue price and the maturity value
of 8. $500 Defense Bond, which he has just purchased, and
surgests that individuals be urged to buy such bonds at the
Issue price, and in addition, donate to the U. S. Government
the difference between the purchase price and the maturity
value. This would amount to a ten-year loan to the Govern-
ment, without interest, which would help in the present crisis,
es well as reduce future interest payments.
:rank L. Frazin, Chicago, Ill. # + In memory of my dad,
who immigrated from Russia some 60 years ago, I Am enclosing
n. cashier's check in the amount of $250, payable to "WINGS
FOR AMERICA - U. S. Treasury Department". * * * Good luck
pass on this great and noble heritage to our children and
to you, Mr. Secretary. "LET'S KEEP 'EM FLYING", so we may
their children's children.
John K. Collings, President, The Turbine Engineering Corp.,
Hoboken, N. J. Please accept this check in the amount of
be $2,000, It made occurred which sometime to is the made in writer, the in future the that national to in the addition, wer many interest of an us appeal the who and emergency, may might effort. be
50 to refund to the Government, during "Series
interest disposed checks which accrue to the holders from the
G" bonds which they may hold.
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Hon. John H. Folger, House of Representatives, Washington,
D. C. I have just finished my day's work. I calculate
my day's pay is $33.34 and herewith enclose check for that
amount - for defense - B. voluntary contribution. I do
remember this injunction: "Do noble things; not dream them
all day long; and thus make life and that grand forever one
sweet song. With great respect - John H. Folger.
Anton J. Klemm, Camden, N. J. I have just made the final
payment on a $25 Defense Savings Bond at the RCA Victor
plant in Camden, where I work as a tool maker on radio
equipment for the National Defense. Last Monday all of
the workers at RCA Victor assembled in Johnson Park, op-
posite the plant, and there they stood with their hats off
and their hands raised and pledged allegiance to the Flag.
It was B. wonderful meeting. There were more than 12, 000
of us. # # * Mr. Morgenthau, I am & naturalized citizen of
our great country. I came here after I was old enough to
understand the freedoms and liberties we enjoy in America that
people in many foreign countries do not have. I want you to
accept the return of my Defense Bond 50 that it can be sold
again and the money used for our national defense.
Paul Sounnaire, Pittsburgh, Pa. (Letter addressed to the
President) Enclose check for $1,000 for Secretary's entire
disposition to the benefit of the nation. French American
have been waiting to do such gift - since gangster Hitler
and his companions have invaded his mother country. Please
accept sincere consideration and full esteem to U. S. May
the French Ambassador (Gaston Henri Haye) at Washington will
take notice.
Elizabeth Archer, Norristown, Pa. You have protected me for
seventy years. At long last I em glad to contribute for
defense. Enclosed herewith is a check for $10.00.
Brice Bowie, Clerk of the Circuit Court of Prince George's Co.,
Md. Enclosed find check for $50 toward the purchase of a
bomber to help to set the "Rising Sun". # 5 * The Clerk and
the clerks in the office, following an old custom, usually
exchange the gifts decided that WG would derive much national more pleasure
small at Christmas time, and after hearing
out broadcast, this small contribution to the cause-of
defense. of We wish no publicity 8.8 a result of this action, to our
but idea of making this small donation follow.
Government do think would the be an excellent plan for others to
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G. B. Williams, Geneva Daily Times, Geneva, N.Y. A couple
of nights ago we were discussing Defense Savings Stamps
and I asked our young son, aged 5, if he wanted to invest
in some. He did not, but wanted to give some money to the
Government "for keeps". (The printed letter from Master
Samuel Williams, accompanied by 15¢, was evidently 8. real
one, and not a fake as some of the letters, supposedly
written by children, are.)
Mr. and Mrs. F. D. Snell, Lansdowne, Pa. Instead of our
usual $2 Christmas tree, we offer these Defense Stamps
for cancellation. We hope this small donation will help
"Beat those Japs".
Henry J. Abrahams, Omaha, Neb. Enclosed to you please
find Treasury Check #42047 for $50 recently received from
you in payment of interest on U. S. Savings Bonds. In
view of the extraordinary emergency now existing and in
the realization that the best efforts and unified action
by each one of us is of vital necessity in prosecuting this
war to complete victory, I wish to return this check to
you. I ask only that its proceeds be used for our defense,
and am pleased to make this contribution. God Bless America.
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DISAGREEABLE Comments on the Present Emergency
Philip E. Hamilton, Attorney at Law, Beaver Falls, Pa.
(Sends copy of letter addressed to Senator Barkley.) This
day I took the money saved for my daughter's education in college
and placed it in the hands of the U. S. Treasury, and I stand
ready to make any sacrifice necessary, but, for God's sake,
out out the damnable politics of this Administration and its
infernal logrolling. We are sick and tired of a Perkins, a
Hillman, a Lewis, a Phillips, & Murray and the contemptible
pack of radicals who have been converting this Government in-
to a hopeless mess. If we had 8. man in the President's
chair who had the guts to be an American to the bone, we would
not tolerate these conditions for a minute. Procrastination,
evasion and politics are taking a terrible toll. Think not
that you and other Administration officials will escape the
final accounting if we go down to defeat, due to incompetence
or negligence. This is an all out war and it will take an
all out effort to win, whether or not you men in Washington
believe it. A Government which hesitates to control in such
B. grave crisis is already well on the way to its downfall,
and I never believed that I would live to see the day when
such things could be. Take those appropriation bills and out
out the useless and wasteful appropriations for non-defense
essentials. Etc., etc.
Louis H. Kohn, Chicago, Ill. You are on the right track when
you suggested that the Government reduce its expense, not to
pay out any money unless necessary. *** I can do no better
than enclose an extract from the Chicago Sun written by Phil
S. Hanna, and unless the Government will follow business prin-
ciples, I believe you will be inclined to resign, and I think
you should, because the responsibility is placed on you.
If our President attempts to do everything himself, our War
policy will not be a success. # No man can play politics
in every one of his actions and forget, if he wants to be suo-
cessful, that he must be an executive and not keep his nose
80 close to the grindstone that he overlooks 80 much that he
must be responsible for. The impression is that no one has
before action is taken. That resulted in disaster to our fleet
any authority, and that everything must be referred to him
in Hawaii, and will result in disaster to union labor as he is
handling it.
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FAVORABLE Comments on Bonds
Hugo H. Doyen (Formerly Hugo Tomenotti), West Los Angeles,
Calif. I can assure you that every penny that I can
spare will go in Defense Bonds. # # The enclosed in-
significant cheque for the sum of $100 brings my best
wishes for the future of the Country. # # " Once in
Europe, I was an Attorney at Law. To keep up with my social
life I was forced to spend B. great deal of money. Now here,
I am just 8. humble servant in & private femily. I do not
need to spend money. I have made an investigation of my
own among the servant class. I can say that every servant
in this Country should be satisfied if the taxation on the
income would start for them at $500 for single persons and
at $1,000 for married couples, instead of at $800 and
$1,500 as it is now.
A. S. Amerman, The Dime Savings Institution, Newark, N.J.
As President of the New Jersey Savings Banks Association,
I am pleased to advise you that the mutual savings banks
of this State, representing over six hundred thousand
depositors with deposits of over Three Hundred Million
Dollars, pledge their full support and cooperation in our
war effort. It is my information that the sale of Defense
Bonds and Stemps by our member banks during the last four
days has been three times over that of any previous like
period. This is at some sacrifice on the part of the banks,
8.3 the labor involved is tremendous and about forty per cent
of the sales represent withdrawals from deposits. However,
we will "keep them flying" and are determined to 368 this
thing through.
Sam Ongar, Marietta, Ohio. I am in receipt of your letter
of the 19th instant for which I wish to thank you. After
receipt of your letter I purchased this morning two hundred
dollars more in U. S. Defense Bonds, which I hope will help
win the war against Adolph Hitler. At the same time, with
this letter, I apply for & position with the Government as
a tailor to be sent any place that I may be of help to win
this war - without pay. I am 8. reputable tailor all through.
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C. N. Waldron, Secretary, Graduate Council, Union College,
Schenectady, N. Y. I have just read your splendid cir-
cular letter to the purchasers of war saving bonds. My
whole family will buy what they can of these securities.
As soon as I know what my taxes will be, I shall put the
balance, if there is any, into these same bonds. It is 8
satisfaction to do this, particularly for older people
like myself, whose personal services in the behalf of the
country are limited.
Donald Setele, Cleveland, Ohio. Mother is writing this
letter to you from me. I was 3 years old November 20th,
and did I enjoy that letter you had written to me personally
about buying United States Savings Bonds.
John Hoven, Mayor of Three Oaks, Mich. This town beat the
United States in the Dewey Cannon contest in 1898. We now
challenge the cities and towns of the United States in the
per capita sale of Defense Bonds and Stamps.
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UNFAVORABLE Comments on Bonds
Alexander Henry Carver, Philadelphia, Pa. (Lawyer).
Thank you for your very politic letter courteously
acknowledging my purchase of United States Savings
Bonds. You urge me to continue buying them periodically.
*** I would gladly do so, and 80 would practically
all of my friends to whom I have spoken, were we not
deterred by the fact that we cannot borrow on the bonds
nor can we transfer them by sale, and this makes abso-
lutely frozen assets that may well be needed to keep in
liquid form.
Den V. Richmond, Ewing, Va. I have been Postmaster of
Ewing, Va., for more than 27 years. NEVER have I seen
B. certain class of people treat the matter of U. S. Bonds
SO lightly. 42 * Something should be done about this
matter, and immediately. I am in a position to know that
those who are able to purchase bonds are not the least
bit interested.
Harold J. Bowen, Lieut. Comdr., USNR, Charleston, S. C.
For the past three years I have been systematically in-
vesting in U. S. Defense Bonds. On Oct. 23, 1941, I
spplied to the Post Office, Charleston, S.C., for 3-$100
end 1-$50 Defense Bonds. The Postal clerk serving me BC-
cepted $262.50 in cash and then told me that she could not
then give me the Bonds as they were locked in a safe to
which she did not have access, but would mail the Bonds
in question to me that same afternoon. To date, I have
received no satisfaction from the Postal authorities or
from the Treasury Department, to whom this matter was re-
ferred. I have 8. cash receipt from the Charleston Post
Office to the amount of $262.50. Since I have never had
the Bonds in my possession, I feel that it is up to the
Postal Department to either return my money, as they refuse
to do, or to have the Treasury Dept. cancel the lost Bonds
and issue new ones. Being on active duty with the Navy at
the present moment, I do not have the time to spend in
fruitless appeal to the two Departments involved. I would
be very obliged to you if you could attend to this matter
for me. onr The delay of two months certainly discourages
one in the matter of purchasing Defense Bonds.
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109
John Doe, N.Y.C. I would like to call your attention
to a practice of New York and New Jersey banks which
I believe, from discussion with others, is preventing
the purchase of Defense Bonds to the fullest extent.
I refer to the various charges on checking accounts
introduced during 1932 and 1933 to sustain bank divi-
dends when loan revenue was low, and continued ever
since.
* If I draw out $500 to buy B. Defense Bond,
the charges for handling my reduced balance will be
considerably increased beyond the revenue obtained from
the Bond. In other words, I am actually paying to the
bank, not only the Bond interest, but more for the
privilege of buying 8. Defense Bond. I am perfectly will-
ing to go without Bond interest in the interest of general
welfare of the country, but I am decidedly not willing to
sustain bank dividends in this manner.
Dr. Thomas H. Bowne, Jr., Chester, Pa.
Please In-
vestigate your mailing department. I keep getting three
letters or ads every time they are sent out. This is 8.
needless cost in time and paper and at 8. time like this,
when every penny counts, I feel that "Wilful waste makes
woeful want".
Harold W. Gould, N.Y.C. May I call to your attention the
first paragraph in the enclosed letter bearing your signa-
ture, which I and several of my friends criticize on the
grounds of poor taste. No one wants to be thanked
for doing his duty, particularly when combined with a re-
quest for a further demonstration of loyalty. Nor may a
mimeographed letter be classified as "personal".
Wm. H. Taylor, Yonkers, N. Y.
Like thousands of
others, I went to my bank Monday morning and arranged 8.
purchase of Defense Bonds. We don't propose to let you
down. But we have our moments, if not our hours, of dis-
couragement. Why should we save, scrimp and sacrifice to
buy Bonds if the funds so supplied are often spent with
reckless abandon and in some cases, even squandered?
Should frugality be reserved exclusively for the private
individual? Consider the spectacle of a nation seeking
the dimes from little children for Defense Stamps, and at
who, to satisfy his whims, is reputed to have flung a cold
that very moment tolerating on its payroll 8. labor boss
helf million dollars to the winds by ordering rejection of
the Currier Company low bid.
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Howard K. Woolverton, Philadelphia, Pa. On Friday evening,
December 12th, I tried to purchase 15 Fifty Dollar Defense
Bonds. I was told by the Teller of the Philadelphia
Saving Fund, 11th and Lehigh Ave. Branch, that they could
not give me 15 Fifty Dollar Defense Bonds because it would
take an hour or more to write them up. I then suggested
that I could come around sometime during the day when they
were not so busy, but he still said that I would have to
take Bonds of the largest denomination in relation to the
amount of money I wished to invest.
Charles T. Hathaway, Rocky River, Ohio. I am a boy of 13.
I would like to know why the United States does not issue
small denomination Defense Savings Bonds, such as $5 or
$10 Bonds. These would more easily fit the pocket of boys
and girls like me and adults who can't afford the higher
denomination Bonds. I know from experience that it is very
discouraging to try to save the $18.75 for even 8. $25 Bond
and not feel that you must spend it on something else,
usually something very trivial, but seemingly important at
the time.
James W. Batchelor, Durant, Okla. Relief clients and old
age pensioners desire to purchase Defense Stamps with
savings from relief funds. They fear regulations will
force their removal from rolls if they save anything. Sug-
gest promulgation of regulations that any Defense Stamps
or Bonds purchased with funds saved from relief payments
will be disregarded in determining clients' participation
in relief funds.
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GENERAL COMMENTS
Kingsley K. Lyu, Duke University, Divinity School,
Durhem, N. C. I W8.5 informed by the Citizens National
Bank, in Durham, N.C., 8. few days ago that my bank
account had been blocked under the regulation issued by
the Treasury Department on the 8th of this month. #
I am neither 8. Japanese national, or a Japanese business
man, but 8. Chinese-Korean student now studying here at
the Duke University Divinity School where I am 8 senior.
I do not think it is the intention of the United States
Government to freeze the schooling expenses of the Korean
students who are in exile here in this country. No
Korean student has ever liked or cooperated with the
Japanese imperialistic aggression, Koreans have always
been eager to seize even 8. small chance to break the
bondage of the Japanese imperialism. *** I wish you
would be kind and thoughtful enough to save the Korean
students from starvation here in this country by not
freezing their schooling funds and expenses. Your kind
instruction to the bank in Durham would be greatly ap-
preciated. My bank account is not much, but you will
thereby save my life and give me 8. chance to finish my
study here. At this time, I am re-assuring you of my
loyalty to this country.
W. W. Housewright, Vice President, The San Benito Bank &
Trust Co., San Benito, Texas. One of our customers today
withdrew her entire balance of $11,000.00. So far as we
can learn, the funds were not needed, and apparently were
withdrawn for the purpose of hoarding. In order to try
and curtail such withdrawals where we believe the money
will be hoarded, we are wondering if you have any sugges-
tions to make that would be of benefit to us in refusing
to cash such checks. If 80, please write us fully. If
there is no way to stop such withdrawals, then maybe you
would be interested in this bank furnishing you with the
names and amounts of such withdrawals.
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J. J. Williams, Pasadena, Calif. I am wondering
if the manufacturers of phonograph records could be
asked to make, free of charge, thousands of transcriptions
of the memorable "War Declaration Message to Congress"
delivered by our President. If this could be done, of course
with the approval of the President, the records could be
sold through the Post Offices of the country. They
would be eagerly sought -- one should be in every home,
school and college in the entire country, making 8. prize
souvenir of the voice of the most popular and grandest man
who was ever in the Presidency.
There have been several letters from bank officials
and banking associations speaking of the newspaper clipping
which indicated that the Treasury would "tap the nation's
current savings", and thus gave depositors the impression
that the Government might impound their savings, either
with or without some form of security in exchange. Most
of these letters ask for B statement through the press or
in the form of 8. letter which may be used to counteract
this impression. Among those who reported anxiety on the
part of their depositors are members of the American In-
dustrial Bankers Association, whose Executive Secretary
urged that the matter be clarified.
J. F. Connelly, Cashier, The Thurmont Bank, Thurmont, Md.
*** There is being circulated B. rumor that the Government
will "freeze" bank deposits - or require each depositor to
take a percentage of his deposit in Government Bonds. ***
Money is beginning to go into hiding. If something is not
done to check the rumor, it could easily reach alarming pro-
portions and result in increased difficulties for the Govern-
ment. 4b # We are inclined to believe recent ill-advised
radio and newspaper comments have contributed to the existing
fear.
C. H. Crandon, Chairman, Finance & Budget Division, Defense
Council of Dade County, Fla. Did you know that millions
of dollars are now being withdrawn from the banks, and
hidden away in secret places, or in safety deposit vaults?
Most certainly this has been reported to you. Unless some
curb is put on this withdrawal of funds, as above outlined,
billions of dollars will find their way into hidden places.
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SUMMARY OF GIFTS RECEIVED MONDAY, DECEMBER 15TH
THROUGH THURSDAY, DECEMBER 18TH
In checks
$6,393.29
In cash
$ 141.25
Bonds to be cancelled $ 850.00
Also 400 shares in the Lincoln Building
and Loan, made over to the Secretary.
Please note that this includes only mail addressed
to the Secretary. It does not include that addressed
to the Treasury Department, or to other officials, nor
does it include mail sent to the White House. In one
envelope from the White House, received this week, there
wes a gold wedding ring, and other remittances have been
in cash, checks, money orders, etc.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
114
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 19, 1941
Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
TO
FROM Alan Barth
EDITORIAL OPINION
ON FOREIGN AFFAIRS:
MEETING THE ISSUE
Confidence
The first feeling of shock and fright engendered by the Japanese
attack has disappeared. The press now reflects an attitude of
reassurance and determination.
Newspaper headlines during the past week have been markedly
encouraging in tone. Their tendency has been to underscore minor
American triumphs. They have proclaimed that the Japanese navy fled
from 8 test of strength against the American Pacific fleet, that the
bend of marines on Wake Island is resolutely maintaining its position,
that landing attempts have been severely repulsed in the Philippines.
Air raid threats to the American continent have not materialized and
are no longer so prominently 8 subject of newspaper speculation.
The most effective restorant to confidence was the report made
by Secretary Knox upon his return from Hawaii. Editorial commentators
found in it 8 full and frank account of the war's first blow. They
liked the candor of his confession that the Navy was not on the alert.
The losses which he detailed were less than had been feared. And,
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while there was some tendency to wonder about the damage undis-
closed by the Knox catalogue, the emphasis in news stories and
in editorial comment was placed mainly on the heroism of American
sailors and officers. The Secretary seems to have succeeded to a
very high degree in restoring the confidence of the American public
in its first line of defense.
Secretary Knox's report succeeded also in abating criticism
of the Government's policy on the release of war information. There
is still, of course, a good deal of impatience for news on the part
of editors. But there now seems to be 8. higher degree of reliance
on official releases than existed in the first days of fighting,
although foreign sources are still quoted extensively. The appoint-
ment of Byron Price to the role of censor was received, in the main,
with tentative approval, based on respect for his standing as a
newspaperman.
It is possible that the current confidence promoted by the
press will degenerate into 8. fresh complacency. Despite numerous
editorial warnings that the war in the Pacific may be a long and
difficult one, there is an undercurrent of anticipation that Japan,
having failed in its initial coup, can be quickly broken by blockade
and bombing attack. The traditional American contempt for the
Japanese is not easily overcome.
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Strategy
with attention focussed on the Pacific, the magnitude of the
Nazi setback in Russia has been partially eclipsed from the American
point of view. Repulse of the invaders at Luzon has taken precedence
over the steady German retreat on the long Russian front.
The American press is, nevertheless, acutely aware of the import-
ance of Russia to the interests of the United States. The pledge of
Ambassador Litvinoff that the Soviet Union would negotiate no separate
peace with Germany was greeted here with considerable relief. Although
8. number of newspapers feel aggrieved that the Russians have not
declared war upon Japan and made Siberian bases available to American
air forces, the bulk of the press takes a remarkably tolerant view of
the Soviet position. The prevailing attitude is expressed by The
New York Herald-Tribune, not usually an apologist for Communism.
The pressure exerted by the Red Army on German land and air forces,
it points out, "is a mighty service to the common cause. If it
demands so much of an already strained Russian economy that the
Siberian troops can only stand on the defensive, it may be B. cause
for regret, but it is not one for recrimination."
Among the more influential newspapers, there is almost unanimous
insistence that Lend-Lease aid to Russia, as well as to Britain, be
accelerated and increased. The President's latest report on shipments
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of war materiel was received with some disappointment, but without
serious criticism. The theme of almost all comment is that our
performance as the arsenal of democracy has been woefully inadequate
to date and must be greatly improved. There seems to be a wide-
spread recognition that American equipment can most usefully be
employed at the fighting fronts.
A good deal of disagreement prevails 8.8 to the particular
fighting front at which American strength can now best be concen-
trated. Some journalistic strategists urge that everything we can
spare be rushed to the defense of Singapore; others see North Africa
or Russia as the essential points to be bolstered. Few editorial
voices have been raised, however, to suggest that our armaments
should be hoarded for purely defensive purposes at home.
Awakening
The Bill of Rights celebration on December 15 seems to have
fostered, at least in editorial minds, 8. heightened awareness of
the genuine issues over which the war is being waged. In a great
many editorial comments on this occasion, and particularly in ref-
erence to the President's speech, the press gave signs of 8. maturing
recognition of the global character of the conflict. The narrow
sense of outrage against the Japanese onslaught has given way, in
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- 5 -
118
part, to 8 broader understanding that it is totalitarianism as 8.
whole which must be relentlessly destroyed.
But this enlarged grasp of the war's meaning does not conceal
certain developing fissures in the domestic scene. Enthusiasm for
protecting the Bill of Rights has not prevented sporadic violations
of its spirit, sometimes reported in the press, sometimes reflected
in the temper of editorials. However closely they may be bound by
8 common desire for victory, management and labor still have 8.
dangerous gap between them; the press, representing the viewpoint
of the former, demands an ironbound no-strike agreement out of the
current conferences, with no apparent recognition that employers,
AS well as employes, may be responsible for strikes. Finally, there
is an undertone of fear and suspicion in the press -- suspicion that
the war may be used to mask 8. continued social revolution under the
New Deal, fear that the costs of war may undermine the existing social
structure.
These divergent interests were temporarily joined by 8. sense of
common danger. They seem likely to be welded "for the duration"
only by continuing joint participation in directed action under firm
leadership.
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
119
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
December 19, 1941
Ferdinand Kuhn, Jr.
TO
FROM
Joseph Melia
EDITORIAL OPINION ON
DOMESTIC AFFAIRS:
VICTORY IS PARAMOUNT
Domestic issues are subordinated by the press to the war.
Editorial writers point out that this is total war, 8 battle of
production, and victory is jeopardized by anything that hinders
the mobilization of our productive facilities at maximum effi-
ciency. They call for an end of "pushing as usual" for group
interests. And they insist that now it is more than ever essen-
tial to solve the "labor problem," either by legislation or by
& voluntary agreement between labor and management.
Announcement of the estimated cost of the Victory Program
was a signal for newspapers to hammer home the need in wartime
for effective price controls and plead for non-defense economies.
But the press is resigned to an "inevitable" increase in taxes
and the national debt.
Newspapers throughout the country are wholeheartedly
behind the Defense Bond campaign and are actively pushing sales,
both as an anti-inflation and an income-raising measure.
120
- 2 -
Victory Program
Maintaining that the war effort may seriously and perhaps
permanently affect our economy, editorial writers throughout the
country now assert, almost without any qualification, that victory
is worth whatever it may cost. In the words of the Cincinnati
Enquirer: "No tax will be too heavy, no control too drastic, if
the end is ultimate victory."
The press hopes that additional taxes and non-defense
economies will defray 8. large part of the war's expense. But
it also expects an increase in government borrowing. And many
newspapers commit what previously would have been considered
editorial heresy in reminding their readers that there is, in
the words of the New Yorker, a fate worse than debt.
Commenting on the Victory Program, editorial writers were
quick to point out that the mere appropriation of money can not
bring victory, that dollars are not a. criteria of production.
They warned against smugly accepting the quick passage of the
Third Supplemental Appropriation Bill as evidence that our war
effort is complete. Many newspapers are again marshalling the
arguments for having an over-all defense head to cut red tape,
wipe out waste, and dovetail civilian and military needs for
efficient production.
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121
- 3 -
Inflation
High prices help Hitler and Hirohito, the press points out.
It fears that the dangers of inflation are heightened by our
entrance into the war. Newspapers throughout the country maintain
that effective anti-inflationary measures are now imperative to
keep the expense of the war at a minimm and the cost of living
from skyrocketing as a consequence of increased government spend-
ing and further curtailment in the production of consumer goods.
Unless anti-inflationary measures are promptly put into effect,
many editorial writers fearfully forecast a rapid decline in
national morale.
First, the press wants Congress to take immediate action
to pass 8. strong price control bill. It hopefully hails the
statement by Leon Henderson that the agricultural ceiling should
be lowered from 110 to 100 per cent of parity as an indication
that perhaps the Senate will also take advantage of the war situa-
tion to resist pressure from the farm bloc. But Mr. Henderson
is criticized for not going "far enough." The majority of the
nation's newspapers still want a provision controlling wages.
According to most editorial writers, the next step --
after price legislation -- is to increase taxes as a means of
adding to the Government's income and at the same time draining
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- 4 -
122
off some of the consumer's "surplus" cash. They expect addi-
tional taxes, but they want the new tax schedule announced as
early as possible 80 that people will be able to budget their
expenses. Some newspapers also mention enforced savings and &
sales tax as possibilities. The idea of increasing the excess-
profits tax is conspicuous only by the way it is comparatively
ignored. Along with an increase in taxes, the press calls
incessantly for 8. cut in non-defense expenditures.
Labor
The nation's newspapers seem to be pretty evenly divided
over the present need of legislation restricting organized labor.
The split is not along liberal and conservative lines. The
Chicago Tribune, one of the paperspreviously most critical of
labor, for instance, holds no legislation is now necessary and
says 8 voluntary agreement between labor and management would be
better for national morale and all concerned.
No matter what their stand on immediate anti-strike legisla-
tion, however, editorial writers almost unanimously agree that
strikes for any reason can no longer be "tolerated." Any large-
scale strike will be the signal for a demand that legislation be
promptly enacted -- in spite of any statements made by labor leaders
that organized labor is wholeheartedly behind the war effort and
against work stoppages.
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123
- 5 -
Whether we have anti-strike legislation or not, the
press wants the "labor problem settled for the duration" by
the establishment of a National War Labor Board along the lines
set in World War I. It hopes that the President's conference
between labor and management will agree on 8. program to freeze
the status quo in organization, adjust wage scales to the seven-
day week, and provide for B. rapprochement between the CIO and
AFL.
Regraded Unclassified
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
124
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
Secretary Morgenthau
TO
Mr. White
FROM
Subject: Exports to Russia, China, Burma, Hong Kong, Japan, France
and other blocked countries, 88 reported to the Treasury
Department during the week ending December 13, 1941.
1. Exports to Russia
Exports to Russia as reported to the Treasury during the
week ending December 13, 1941 amounted to more than $12,000,000,
the largest total for any single week since July 28. The principal
items were landplanes, military tanks and motor trucks. (See
Appendix C.)
2. Exports to China, Burma and Hong Kong
Exports to Free China were valued at approximately $2,340,000
as compared with $791,000 during the previous week. Cartridges,
passenger care, scout cars and automobile parts for replacement
were the main items. (See Appendix D.) Exports to Occupied China
amounted to nearly $700,000, the largest figure for any single week
during the last 3 months. (see Appendix E.)
Exports to Burma totalled only $18,000. (See Appendix F.)
No exports to Hong Kong were reported during the week under
review.
3. Exports to Japan
No exports to Japan were reported during the week under
review.
4. Exports to France
No excorts to France were reported during the week ending
December 13, 1941.
5. Exports to other blocked countries
Exports to other blocked countries are given in Appendix A.
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125
SUMMARY OF UNITED STATES
DOMESTIC EXPORTS TO SELECTED COUNTRIES
AS REPORTED TO THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT
FROM EXPORT DECLARATIONS RECEIVED
DURING THE PERIOD INDICATED 1/
July 28 to December 13, 1941
(In thousands of dollars)
July 28
to
Week ended
Week ended
Total
Nov. 29
December 6
December 13
Domestic Exports
$54,497
$ 3,609
$12,040
$70,146
1. S. S. R.
10,523
61
678
11,262
Occupied China
Free China
25,201
791
2,337
28,329
1,870
2/
5/
-
1,870
Japan
6,716
64
18
6,798
Burna 3/
-
-
6
France w
6
2
-
2
1
cupied France
1
oh
04
-
Free France
1
2,217
Spain
2,216
-
4,619
237
161
5,017
Switzerland
Sweden
10,192
188
17
10,397
17
394
French Indochina
353
24
December 17, 1941
Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research
Many of the declarations are received with & lag of several days or more. of
Therefore this export compilation does not accurately represent the actual shipment
a partibular week. The longer the period covered, the closer will these figures
come to Department of Commerce revised figures.
3/ Of this total $1,864 thousand was reported from July 28 to August 23, inclusive,
Domestic and shipped exports prior from to freezing August 23 orders. through week ending November 29, amounted to $6,053.
3/ From September 11, 1941 to date - It is presumed that a large percentage of mate-
rial listed here, consigned to Burma, is destined for Free China.
1/ Includes both occupied and Free France through week ending October 4, 1941. Occu-
pied and Free France separated thereafter.
Less than $500.
Regraded Unclassified
APPENDIX B
Exports from the U.S. to China, Burma, Hong Kong, Japan and U.S.S.R. as
reported to the Treasury Department, July 28, 1941 - December 13, 1941
(Thousands of Dollare) 1/
Exports to China
Total To Japanese
To Chinese
Exports
Exports
Exports
Exports
controlled
controlled
to
to
to
to
ports
ports
Burma
Hong Kong
Japan
U.S.S.R.
July 28 - Aug. 2
937
542
395
654
1,657
4,523
Aug. 4 - Aug. 9
2,794
2,794
-
983
159
551
Aug. 11 - Aug. 16
1,278
969
309
235
42
986
Aug. 18 - Aug. 23
1,352
1,350
2
234
6
2,735
Aug. 25 - Aug. 30
736
735
1
742
-
1,023
Sept. 2 - Sept. 6
897
693
204
634
-
4,280
Sept. OF - Sept.13
3,038
757
2,281
456
-
5,217
Sept.15 - Sept.20
3,978
156
3,822 2/
389
-
752
Sept.22 - Sept.27
462
352
110
449
810
-
2,333
Sept.29 - Oct. 4
1,305
80
1,225
684
297
-
323
Oct. 6 - Oct. 11
5,864
552
5,312
1,157
1,233
-
6,845
Oct. 13 - Oct. 18
272
267
5
35
584
-
1,924
Oct. 20 - Oct. 25
668
399
269
403
1,243
-
5,623
Oct. 27 - Nov. 1
5,210
438
4,772
58
624
-
4,484
Nov. 3 - Nov. 8
1,836
164
1,672
342
283
5
4,552
Nov. 10 - Nov. 15
3,009
158
2,851
88
303
-
2,677
Nov. 17 - Nov. 22
1,701
473
1,228
1,021
600
-
3,581
Nov. 24 - Nov. 29
3,359
120
3,239
1,364
1,325
-
2,436
Dec. 1 - Dec. 6
852
61
791
64
-
-
3,609
Dec. 8 - Dec. 13
3,025
688
2,337
18
-
-
12,040
Total
42,573
11,748
30,825
5,683
11,629
1,869
70,494
1/
These figures are in part taken from copies of shipping manifests.
2/ Figures for exports to Free China during these weeks include exports to Rangoon which are
presumed to be destined for Free Ohina.
126
3/ It is presumed that a large percentage of exports to Burma are destined for Free China.
Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research
December 1 Regraded Unclas
127
APPENDIX e
Principal Exports from U.S. to U.S.S.R.
as reported to the Treasury Department
during the week ending December 13, 1941.
(Thousands of Dollars)
TOTAL EXPORTS
$ 12,040
Principal Items:
Landplanes, powered
4,829
Military tanks and parts
1,843
Motor trucks (1 to 11 tons)
1,122
Motor trucks (1) to 21 tons)
790
Aviation gasoline
621
Boots and shoes
268
Explosive shells and projectiles
250
Sole leather
243
Other aircraft engine parts and accessories
232
Hard winter wheat
192
Coated wire of iron or steel
156
Aluminum plates, sheets, bars, strips and rods
143
Barbed wire
136
Motor trucks (under 1 ton)
134
Metallic cartridges
132
Anti-knock compounds
104
Engine lathes
95
Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research December 18,1941
128
APPENDIX D
Principal Exports from U.S. to Free China,
as reported to the Treasury Department
during the week ending December 13, 1941
(Thousands of Dollars)
TOTAL EXPORTS TO FREE CHINA
$ 2,337
Principal Items:
606
Cartridges
278
Passenger cars
254
Scout cars
Automobile parts for replacement
211
152
Cotton sheeting
139
Cotton blankets
136
Motorcycles
Steel bullet jacket cups
92
Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research December 18,1941
Regraded Unclassified
129
APPENDIX E
Principal Exports from U.S. to Occupied
China as reported to the Treasury Department
during the week ending December 13, 1941
(Thousands of Dollars)
TOTAL EXPORTS TO OCCUPIED CHINA
$ 688
Principal Items:
Vitamines and vitasterols, n.e.s.
123
Leather and tanned skins
66
45
Barbitual Other medicinal and pharmaceutical preparations
33
Fruits and preparations
23
22
Wheat flour
Other industrial chemicals
20
Dried whole and skimmed milk
20
Bicarbonate of soda
17
17
Toilet preparations
16
Bottle and container closures
Other coal-tar products
15
Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research December 18,1941
Regraded Unclassified
130
APPENDIX ,
Principal Exports from U.S. to Burma
as reported to the Treasury Department
during the week ending December 13, 1941
(Thousands of Dollars)
$ 18
TOTAL EXPORTS
Principal Items:
7
Wire nails
2
Galvanized wire
Household and personal effects
2
2
Auto replacement parts
1
Pharmaceutical preparations
1
Tires and tubes
Treasury Department, Division of Monetary Research December 18,1941
Regraded Unclassified
131
12/19/41-
Dear Dr. Soong:
Thank you very much for your letter
of December 16, 1941, enclosing a copy of
the telegram of December 12th.
I appreciate your keeping no informed
on matters of such importance and insediate
interest.
Sincerely yours,
/s/ 21. Morgethur, In
Secretary of the Treasury.
Dr. T. V. Soong,
China Defense Supplies, Inc.,
1601 V Street, N. K.,
Washington, D. C.
10/10
Return to Ren. 2143
12/19/41
Regraded Unclassified
It
white
CHINA DEFENSE SUPPLIES, INC.
132
1601 V STREET N. W.
WASHINGTON, D.C.
December 16, 1941
SECRET
Dear Mr. Morgenthau,
For your information I enclose copy of
a telegram Stalin sent to Chiang Kai-shek, dated
Moscow, the 12th of December. A copy of the same
has been given to the State Department.
Yours sincerely,
When
T. V. Soong
Enclosure
The Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.
Regraded Unclassified
133
C
o
SECRET
R
Y
TELEGRAM TO GENERAL CHIANG KAI-SHEK FROM STALIN
(Translation from Chinese)
"Your telegram only reached me yesterday. I am deeply
appreciative of your kind consideration. I am in perfect agreement
with you that the long heroic struggle China has put up against
Japen, and the present anti-Japanese front in the Pacific are part
and parcel of the general anti-Axis front. At the same time the
anti-German front assumes special significance in the anti-Axis
front, because Germany is the strongest partner of the Axis.
"Soviet Russia today has the principal burden of the
NOT against Germany. And Soviet Russian victory over Germany
constitutes a great hope of the other members of the anti-Axis
front, Great Britain, the United States and China. It is my
opinion that under the circumstances the Soviet today ought not
to divert its strength to the Far East, when it is beginning to
attack the German armies, for by dispersing our strength the
difficulties of the German armies will be lessened. I beg you
therefore not to insist that Soviet Russia at once declare war
against Japan.
"Soviet Russia must fight Japan, for Japan will surely
unconditionally break the Neutrality Pact. We are preparing to
meet that situation, but it takes time to prepare. Therefore I
again implore you not to take the lead in demanding that Soviet
Russia at once declare war against Japan.
Stalin"
Moecow, December 12, 1941.
Regraded Unclassified
134
TELEGRAM SHT
WIA
PLAIN
December 19, 1941.
HERICAN CONSUL,
HONG KONG, (CHINA).
477, nineteenth.
TO TAYLOR AND FRESE FROM Secretary morgenthau.
QUOTE If any opportunities occur to leave Hong
Kong safely, you are instructed to do so without delay.
END QUOTE
HULL
(FL)
FD:FL:ME
FE
Regraded Unclassified
135
DEC 19 1941
My dear Mr. Secretary:
This is to ask whether you nan give any help to two of
our Treasury nen who are stranded in Hong Kong. These man,
Messrs. W. y. Fress and W. H. Taylor, were there working with
the Chinese Stabilisation Board, and for some reason, which NO
do not yet understand, they were not evacuated when the Board
and some of its staff were hurriedly flown to Chungiding.
E. Prese is a Treasury employee on temporary duty in
the Far East. Mr. Taylor of our staff is the alternate to
Mr. A. II. Fox on the Chinese Stabilisation Board. In that
capacity be is an employee of the Chinese dovernment, but
since we recomeended him from our staff, W regard his as our
responsibility.
It was our thought that perhape the Consul in Shanghei
could add Frese and Taylor to his staff, so that in the event
that Hong Xong was taken by the ensuy these two men would be
able to return to the United States more quickly than would
otherwise be possible.
This procedure may be imprecticable. However, any
help which your Department can give Measrs. frese and Taylor
will be greatly appreciated.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) a. in
Secretary of the Treasury
The Monorable,
by
The Secretary of State.
VPUmsh
12/19/41
HOW
VFC
COPY
Regraded Unclassified
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
136
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 19,1941
Secretary Morgenthau
TO
Vr. White
FROM
Subject: British Press Summaries.
Press summaries received from Casaday covering
October 19 to November 9 reveal the following items of
perticular interest:
1. Expressions of dissetisfaction with the War
Cabinet on the grounds that (a) it is too large and un-
wieldy, (b) it contains numerous incompetent members,
and (o) there are many men in high office with an un-
desirable and unpopuler political outlook. The criticism
extended to Lord Halifax, based on the charge that he
lacks "the common touch" and that, for other reasons, he
is not suitable for the post he holds. There was almost
no adverse criticism of Prime Minister Churchill.
2. Announcement by the Ministry of Labor further
regulating the occupations of women in the 20 to 30 age
group, and indicating that B. much firmer policy would
be followed in assigning women to war industries.
3. Serious criticism of the alleged failure of the
British Government to give all possible aid to Russin,
especially the failure to create B. diversion for the
Nazis by B. British invasion of the continent.
There was, however, a perceptible diminution of
such criticism during the last two weeks, some papers
celling on their readers to cease *111-informed clamour"
and trust Churchill.
Regraded Unclassified
137
Treasury Department
Division of Monetary Research
0
Date Dec. 19, 194119
To:
Mrs. Klotz
I am in doubt whether to
bother the Secretary about this matter,
yet I hesitate to make a decision since
the Secretary may be particularly
interested.
If you think the Secretary
would prefer not to see this, I'll
send the appended letter.
H.D.W.
ok
MR. WHITE
Branch 2058 - Room 2141
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
Y
138
DATE December 19,1941
Secretary Morgenthau
TO
H. D. White
FROM
Casaday wrote on December 1 saying that shortage
of help was preventing him from keeping up with all his
assignments. He mentioned that he had been doing con-
siderable special work for the Ambassador. He asked
that the Treasury say which of the various lines of work
he was doing were the most useful.
Casaday's activities are roughly 8.8 follows:
1. Gathering data and preparing reports on queries
from Washington.
2. Transmitting messages between the two Treasuries.
3. A weekly financial report.
4. Dealing with problems of Americans involved in
British exchange control.
5. Clipping press items.
6. Weekly press summary.
7- Preparing reports on subjects Casaday believes
of interest.
8. Work for the Ambassador. This is likely to be
on financial matters raised by other departments, British
financial questions, internal economic issues between the
two Governments, and perhaps other economic work.
Do you still feel that you want items 5 and 6 continued?
Mr. Coe feels that if funds were available Casaday could
probably hire someone in England to help him on such work.
I have appended a letter which I think might go.
Regraded Unclassified
139
Dear Mr. Ganaday:
In your letter of December 1, 1941, you sentioned
that shortage of half was preventing you from keeping
up with all your assignments.
I an indeed glad that the Ambassador has been
able to make good use of your services. If you could
let us know about hav such time you are spending on
special work for him, it would help us to decide
whether VS ought to try to arrange for an assistant
to you.
Please let us know, by cable, if it is possible
for you to employ help in England for the elipping
of press items and preparation of press summaries.
Sincerely yours,
B. D. Unite,
Assistant to the Secretary.
Mr. L. 1. Casaday,
Attache for the treasury,
The Americen
London, Ingland.
HHabwl
12-19-41
Regraded Unclassified
Treasury Department
Division of Monetary Research
140
Date December 19, 1941
19
To:
Secretary Morgenthau
H. D. White
From:
Subject: Status of Gold Purchases from Russia
1. The Agreement of August 16 provided for
advance of $10 million against the delivery
of gold within 90 days.
2. The current Agreement of November 10 pro-
vided for the advance of $30 million
against the delivery of gold within 180
days. 39 days have elapsed and about $21
million of the $30 million has been repaid.
(Schedule of Repayments attached)
141
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE
December 18, 1941
TO
Mr. White
FROM
Mr. Southard
Status of Gold Purchases from Russia
:
Date
Dunces
Amount
:
Date of
Ounces
Amount Applied
rurchased
(000)
Value
Advanced
:
Payment
(000)
Against Advance
:
2/16/41 2/ 301
$10,535,000
$10,000,000
:
9/26/41
161
$ 5,636,423
:
10/25/41
140
4,871,938
:
:
301
$10,508,361
:
:
:
10/10/41 3/ 903
$31,605,000
$30,000,000
:
(Excess delivered under
above agreement)
$ 508,361
:
10/25/41
19
8 662,908
:
11/18/41
160
5,599,791
:
12/13/41
190
6,629,109
:
12/18/41
195
6,796,408
=
:
:
564
$20,196,577
Advance still outstanding
B 9,803,423
Full value of gold less 1/4 of 1% and less lint charges.
D
if
This purchase agreement provided for delivery within 90 days.
This purchase agreement provides for delivery within 180 days.
Regraded Unclassified
>
142
DEC 1 9 1941
W dest B.
1 vish to refer to the agreement dated October 10,
1941, relative to the purchase of 903,000 fine toog -
of gold W the Secretary of the treasury from the Government
of the Union of seriet secialist Reyablics, against which m
advance of $30,000,000 voi más a October 11, 1941.
I take pleasure is enclosing for your information
too espice d the - report of the United States Rist at
in Prencisco giving n analysis of the gold which arrived
en the # DONDASS at deposited w your - a December
5. 1941. for the assount of the secretary of the treasury.
Tou will cheerve from the enclosed report that the
z I I 1 I 1 and 1
tota 109,683.349 fine toop - of onld and to have a value
of 06,045,323.40. After the deluction of the mount of
$16,804.78 representing the Rind charge of $190.00 plus the
2/4% headling change of $16,624.78, the net value of the gold
use $6,689,100.62. this sensi of gaid has been applied w
the treasury against the - of gold agreed be be purchased
w the secretary of the Treasury under the agreement of October
10, 1941.
sincerely yours,
(Signed) 1. Mergenthan, and
secretary of the treasury.
Nie Incollency
Maria Litvissif,
% will a I r
Socialist Depublics.
By Measenger Steen 6:05
I
Regraded Unclassified
BULLION DEPOSIT . MEMO REPORT
143
Min: Form 42R
and (For BANK OF SAN
Loo 5, 1941
Memos Required
Silver Price
SOURCE DATA
Other Data
(2 sheets)
or Class
FL. QUEST JF FEDERAL accessive BANK OF NEW YORK
State
MUSSIA
7. Y SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, SPACIAL ACCOUNT.
County
Mine
Deveription
Assay
WEIGHTS
ASSAY CERTIFICATE
Before Malt
Refining
Number
After Melt
- Deposit
FINENESS
PINE o UNCES
chg-cts.
GOLD
Ounces
Dac
Ounces
Dec
Gold
Silver
SILVER
Base
per oz.
Ounces
Dec
1+2
20 8951
Ounces
7852.47
7454.82
999.9
(000
1)
Dec
7454.074
il
20
52
7057.42
8033.18
999.9
(000
1)
8032.376
-12
20
53
7863.21
7709.56
999.9
(000
1)
7708.789
13-15
20
54
7974.75
7664.38
999.8
(000
2)
7662.847
17.21
2
55
7899.54
7747.15
999.8
(000
2)
7745.600
del
20
56
7309.85
7900.37
999.9
(000
1)
7899.579
V-23
26
57
7929.26
8235-49
999.9
(000
1)
6234.666
-
20
58
7863.47
7627.84
999.9
(000
1)
7627.077
05-30
2U
59
7777.59
7848.82
999.9
(000
1)
7848.035
20
60
7804.07
8025.05
999.8
(000
2)
8024,044
20
02
7886.80
7746.29
999.5
(000
1)
7745.515
G-all
20
62
7799.96
7700.11
999.9
(000
1)
7699.339
MI BY CHECK
NOTE:- THIS REPORT IS FOR THE INFORMATION
Total
Total
FL AS NOTED
OF THE DEPOSITOR AND IS OF NO OTHER VALUE.
VALUES
CHARGES
GOLD
SILVER
Melting
Refining
Handling
Total
$
$
$
$
$
$
$
Bars
$
Cash
Check
NET VALUE
Regraded Unclassified
STATE MINT
BULLION DEPOSIT - MEMO REPORT
SAN FRANCISCO. CAL
Mint Form 42R
Dec 2, 1941
7806
Memos Required 6
Silver Price
SOURCE DATA
ber FEDERAL RESERVE Data BANK OF SAN FRANCISCO Other Data
by Depositor
or Class
( 2 sheets)
State
dussia
asibor For account, FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF NEW YORK
FOR CREDIT N THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, SPECIAL ACCOUNT
County
Mine
net #2
Assay
WEIGHTS
Description
ASSAY CERTIFICATE
Before Melt
Refining
Number
After Melt
FINE OUNCES
Boxes of DOFBARS
FINENESS
chg.-cts.
GOLD
Ounces
Dec
Ounces
Dec
Gold
SILVER
Silver
Base
per 02.
Ounces
Dec
Ounces
Dec
49-52
20 8963
7929.99
7835.68
999.8
(000.2)
7834.112
53-56
20
64
8003.92
8049.61
999.8
(000.2)
8048.000
57-60
20
65
7964.12
8422.82
999.9
(000.1)
8421.977
61-64
20
66
7943.78
7584.50
999.9
(000.1)
7583.741
bt 13
10-13
20
67
7447.50
7576.71
999.9
(000.1)
7575.952
14-17
20
68
7403.81
7183.65
999.9
(000.1)
7182.931
18-21
20
69
7345.80
7217.92
999,8
(000.2)
7216.476
22-25
20
70
7437.08
7189.83
999.9
(000.1)
7189.111
26-29
20
71
7507.63
7604.30
999.9
(000.)
7603.539
30-33
20
72
7534.21
7622.94
999.8
(000.2)
7621.415
34-37
20
73
7581.65
7517.76
999.9
(000.1)
7517.008
38-41
20
74
7603.75
7948.97
999.8
(000.2)
7947.380
-2-43
10
8975
3888.64
4460.55
999.8
(000.2)
4459.657
189,910.27
189,908.90
BLE BY CHECK
NOTE:- THIS REPORT IS FOR THE INFORMATION
Total
Total
PT AS NOTED
OF THE DEPOSITOR AND IS OF NO OTHER VALUE
189,883.240
VALUES
CHARGES
GOLD
SILVER
Melting
Refining
Handling
Total
$ 6,645,913.40 $
$ 190.00
$
$
$
XXX
16,614
78
16,804.78
Bars
$ 6,629,108.62
Cash
Check
NET VALUE
C
o
144
P
DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON
December 19. 1941
In reply refer to
17 F40 51 Frozen Credits/46R6A
The Secretary of State prevente his compliments to
the Monorable the Secretary of the Treasury and encloses
herewith a paraphrase of a circular telegram to all
diplomatic offices in the American republics concerning
nessures taken by the United States to control transactions
in financial, trade and business matters in which Italy or
Jerseny or blocked nationals thereof have any interest, and
for similer treatment of Japanese nationals in continental
United States, and with a view to the aioption of P program
for similar control in the Western Femisphere.
Soclceure:
Paraphrase of
circular telegram
December 15, 1941.
Copy:1c:12/22/41
Regraded Unclassified
C
0
145
P
Y
PARAPHRASE OF TELEGRAM SENT
PROM:
Secretary of State, Washington
TO:
All Diplomatic Officer in the American Republics
DATED:
December 15, 1941, 10 p.m.
NUMBER:
Circular
It is requested that you contact the officials of the
Government to which you are accredited and call their at-
tention to the administration under the present conditions
of war of blocking control measures placed in effect with
the United States in June 1941 affecting Italian and
German activities in this country. Under this freezing
order this Government exercises control of all trans-
actions in financial, trade and business in which Italy
or Germany or blocked nationals thereof have any interest
by prohibition of such transactions except by special
licenses. No payments, withdrawals or transfers are per-
mitted from any accounts in banks if Italy or Germany or
blocked nationals thereof have any interest in said accounts
except by specific authorization. There is, of course,
prohibited between this country and Italy and Germany all
financial, business or trade transactions.
These controls which are applied to the individual acti-
vities of Italian or German nationals resident in this
country and to business conducted locally by such nationals
in which neither Italy nor Germany nor any national thereof
146
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residing in Italy or Germany has any interest, are based on
the extent to which said nationals are suspected of engaging
in activities detrimental to United States defense.
This selective method is possible because this Govern-
ment possesses current information obtained by various
methods, including available information under the Alien
Registration Act which provides separation of those aliens
suspected of such activities from those under or above such
suspicion and to interne those Italian, German and Japanese
nationals whose activities seem to be detrimental to the
United States.
The treatment of Japanese nationals has been some-
what modified. Upon the outbreak of war with Japan, as you
were previously advised, all financial, trade and commercial
transactions of Japan or her nationals were stopped subject
to the granting of appropriate future licenses. Subsequently
an arrangement has been made by which any Japanese nationals
in the continental United States not now in custody are
permitted minimum living expenses from bank accounts or
salaries, and nationals of Japan participating in agricultural
pursuits considered essential to the local economy where they
operate, may with certain minor exceptions engage in any
transactions relative to normal conduct of said business.
Regraded Unclassified
147
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Italian and German banks as well as Italian and German
business enterprises owned or controlled by Italians or
Germans not residing within the Western Hamisphere have been
placed under a stringent control. Government representatives
since the outbreak of the war have taken custody of financial
and banking institutions of Germany and Italy throughout the
United States with instructions when necessary to prevent the
entrance to such premises and to avoid the removal or
destruction of their records, books or other property.
Business enterprises controlled or owned by Italians and
Germans not resident within the Western Hemisphere have been
placed under similar custody. Of these concerns many have
been denied the privilege to engage in any business trans-
action and liquidation will be necessary. In instances where
certain businesses are important to domestic economy,
permission has been given for them to engage in strictly
domestic business subject to detailed Government supervision.
No transactions, of course, are permitted which are of interest
to Italy or Germany or any national thereof residing outside
of the Western Hemisphere. Measures have been taken in such
cases to prevent Italy or Germany or nationals thereof outside
the Western Memisphere from engaging in any control whatsoever
in the affairs of such concerns and the Government in many
cases may take over the interests in the concerns of such persons.
Regraded Unclassified
148
These controls which interne Italian or German nationals
resident in this country whose activities are considered
detrimental to the United States interests, deprive them
of the right to any business activities whatsoever, are in
addition to the controls outlined earlier in this cable.
Conforming with the declarations of inter-American
solidarity in the event that the security, peace or ter-
ritorial integrity of any American republic is endangered,
particularly Recolution IV which was adopted by the second
meeting of the American Republice Ministers of Foreign
Affairs, who are requested to state to the Government to
which you are accredited, that it 1s presumed that said
Government will agree to adopt appropriate steps to pre-
vent Italian, German and Japanese activities in the
Western Hemisphere.
You should be guided by your knowledge of present
conditions in the country to which you are accredited,
including whether or not it has declared war against Italy,
Janan or Germany when Bug esting steps for adoption by
that Government which would control the financial and
economic activities of Germany, Japan and Italy and
nationals thereof. The measures which this Government would
vish adopted are considered to be measures facilitating
Regraded Unclassified
149
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the accomplishment of the following results: 1. All financial,
trade or business transactions between Italy, Japan or Germany
ená the country to which you are accredited will be prevented.
2. All financial, trade or business transactions in such
country which are participated in for the benefit of or by
persons controlled by Italy, Japan or Germany or nationals
thereof not resident within the Western hemisphere will be
prevented. 3. All financial, trade or business transactions
in such country by Italian, Japanese or Germen nationals or
their agents detrimental to the Western Hemisphere defense
will be prevented. 4. All financial, trade and business trans-
actions in such country participated in by Italian, Japanese
or Germen nationals will be subjected to supervision. 5. Such
nationals of Italy, Japan or Germany engaged in activities
dangerous to the Western Hemisphere defense will be taken
into custody.
The presentation of the Department's views must be
left to the discretion of the Chief of each mission, but
it is hoped that appropriate controls will be adopted
readily by all the Governments. It is felt that the defense
of the United States and of each of the other American republics
will be endangered if the adoption of such measures fails or
is delayed.
Regraded Unclassified
150
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Continuous study of our present procedures in policies
is being made and will be modified according to the trend of
events and experience.
You are instructed to advise all consular officers subject
to your jurisdiction.
Copy: 1c: 12/22/41
151
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 19, 1941
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM A Districh
CONFIDENTIAL
Registered sterling transactions of the reporting benks were as follows:
Sold to commercial concerns
£63,000
Purchased from commercial concerns 246,000
you market sterling remained at 4.03-3/4. end there were no reported
inasactions.
The Canadian dollar closed at a discount of 13-1/6%. The present level
compares with B. low for the year of 17-1/26 discount, reached last January, and
A 4164 DI 10-1/4%. reached early in September.
The Argentine free peso declined 25 points to close at .2365. It was re-
orted that this movement mainly reflected воше strengthening in the dollar
cuotation in Buenos Aires.
The Cuban peso, which has been offered at a premium of 1/4% during the
Inst two days, moved off to close at par today.
In Sey York, closing quotations for the foreign currencies listed below
NETO Ba follows:
Brazilian milreis (free)
.0516
Colombian peso
-5775
Mexican peso
.2065
Uruguayan peso (free)
.5310
Venezuelan bolivar
.2700
were no purchases or sales of gold effected by uo with foreign countries
16807.
Vo new gold engagements were reported.
In London. spot and forward silver were unchanged at 23-1/2d and 23-9/16d,
investivaly. The U. S. equivalents were 42.67$ and 42.764-
248 Treasury's purchase price for foreign silver wes unchanged at 354. Handy
erian's settlement price for foreign silver was also unchanged at 35-1/84.
: e cade no purchases of silver today.
Regraded Unclassified
152
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The report of December 10 received from the Federal Reserve Bank of New
York, giving foreign exchange positions of banks and bankers in its district, re-
vealed that the total position of all countries was short the equivalent of
$4,377,000. an increase of $252,000 in the short position since December 3. Net
changes were as follows:
Short Position
Short Position
Change in
Country
December 3
December 10
Short Position*
England**
$ 393,000 (Long)
$ 212,000 (Long)
+ $181,000
Europe
2,552,000
2,588,000
+ 36,000
Canada
460,000 (Long)
543,000 (Long)
- 83,000
Latin America
98,000
47,000 (Long)
- 145,000
Japan
160,000
160,000
---
Other Asia
2,246,000
2,401,000
+ 155,000
All others
78,000 (Long)
30,000
+ 108,000
Total
$4,125,000
$4,377,000
+ $252,000
*Plus sign (+) indicates increase in short position, or decrease in long position.
Minus sign(-) indicates decrease in short position, or increase in long position.
**Combined position in registered and open market sterling.
X
CONFIDENTIAL
Regraded Unclassified
153
BRITISH EMBASSY
WASHINGTON, D.C.
December 19th, 1941
PERSONAL AND SECRET
Dear Mr. Secretary,
I enclose herein for your
personal and secret information a copy
of the latest report received from
London on the military situation.
Believe me,
Dear Mr. Secretary,
Very sincerely yours,
Halifax
The Honourable
Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
United States Treasury,
Washington, D. C.
Regraded Unclassified
154
Copy No.
BRITISH MOST SECRET
(U.S. SECRET)
and No. 40
Information received up to 7 4, 18th December, 1941.
(t) TAVAL
Northern Datora. 26th November, A Russian submarine sank an
800 ton merchant ship in FUGLO SOUND (s.w. of North Cape). Between 28th November
tal 6th December another Russian mitmorine senk one 10,000 and the 6,000 ton
emorted merchant ships in the visinity of North Cope,
17th P.m. Two of H.M. minemeepers were in action with two
enetty destroyers off GORCDETSKY (entrance to UHITE SEA). One was alightly
lamged and the other has so far been unlocated,
MEDITERRANEAN. 17th, Early in the morning our aircraft 10-
cated n force of energy battleships, cruisers and destroyers Southbound escorting
4 merchant ships, to the Westward of MAVARINO. At 5.55 P.m. our light forces
were in action with the enemy 165 miles to the Southmard but lost touch at 6.47
P.S. since when no further reports have been received.
Attacks on chinning. 13th, A Spanish tanker of medium tonnage
wes runk by A G-boat off the Spanish coast to the Zest of GIBRALTAR,
15th. À Portuguese ship of medium tennage was torpedood in the
visinity of CAPE ST. VINCENT.
16th, & Dutch coastal vessel was damaged in the BRISTOL CHANNEL
by an enemy aircraft which WILD probably shot down by a Corvette.
(II) EILITARY
LIBYA. 16th. We continued to press the enemy along the whole
Tront taking about 1,000 Italians prisoner. Strong resistance une encountered
sime 12 miles South-West of GAZAIA. Neanuhile a mobile detachment had reached
DUMI astride the GAZALA-DERNA road where como enemy H.T. was destroyed. In the
afternoon our armoured forces moving from BIR HALEOH EL ALEBA (See OPTEL No. 39)
engaged the energy in the roar of his right flank North of the TRICH EL ABD,
17th. 10 the the 22 German tanks (probably remants of 15th and
21st German armoured divisions) escarting o large column were discovered with-
drawing in the direction of TUDII. Later enemy began to retreat all along the
line. Our forces followed up and by noon, Not Zealand troops had reached a
point 10 miles North West of GAZALA. The nain partion of our artoured forces
The moving from the BIR HALEGH EL AIRBA area on TUDEI,
Prontier Area. South African troops captured en enemy post
forming part of the defences of BARDIA, Following prisoners of was have reached
Regraded Unclassified
155
ALEXANDRIA up to 15th December:
German - 72 officers, 2,926 other ranks
Italian - 237 officers, 4,869 other ranks.
FDIG KONG. Enemy shelling and nortar fire have caused some
damage to our beach defence pill boxes on North shore of the Island and to one
coast defence battery. Bombing has caused BODO damage to food stores and water
mains. Our artillery fire has dispersed anemy troop concentrations and transport
on the mainland and silenoed four enemy guns, 8 17th, a further summone to aur-
render as received, The Governor replied that be was not prepared to receive any
further communication on the subject.
MALAYA. 17th, REDAH, On right enetty attacked our detachments
in GRIK area (25 miles S.S.E. of KROH) in some strongth, On left, withdrewal
from River MUDA is continuing. Our reserve formations now on line of River KRIAN
(20 niles to South).
PRIMAND. Withdrawal prosseding,
KALANTAN- We now hold position on River MAL (25 miles South of
KOTA BRARU). Enemy broke off engagement after suffering casualties, Elsewhere
nothing to report, Enemy air activity negligible. Anti-aircraft defences have
shot down 13 enemy aircraft to date, plus 5 probable.
PORTUGUESE TIMER. The Netherlands East Indies Government an-
nounce that on the morning of 17th December Portuguese Timor was occupied by Dutch
and Australian forces.
RUSSIA. Nothing additional to official communiques.
(III) AIR OPERATIONS
16th/17th. WILHELLSHAVEN (71 tons), OSTEND (35 tone), BREST
(31 tons), and DUNKIRK were attacked in fair visibility. 13 aircraft from R.C.A.V.
aquadrons took part in these reide.
17th, Our fighters destroyed a Junker 88 off KENT.
17th/18th. 137 aircraft despstabed to BREST (121) HAVRE (14)
loaflets PARIS - CRIZANS (2). At BREST, attacked by 99 aircraft a large explosion
and fires were seen, though & smoke screen hindered observation. One bember
missing. Another come down in the sea but the crew is safe.
LIBYA. 16th. Our light bombers started a large fire in dumps
near BARDTA and attacked BENINA asrodrome. In the course of contimuous fighter
patrols to the Southwest of GAZATA and frequent sweeps between GAZALA and TMBI
only two ensuy aircraft were sighted, one of which was destroyed.
Regraded Unclassified
156
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FAR EAST 17th. Six light bombers escarted by 5 fighters
?
operating from SINKAWANG (North=Nest BORNEO) unsuccessfully attacked Japanese
warships off MIRI.
(IV) ENEMY ACTIVITY
17th/18th. About 40 enemy aircraft operated against the United
Kingdom, of which 18 crossed the coast for short periods.
157
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6-2/2657-220: No. 574
M.I.D., W.D. 11:00 December 19, 1941.
SITUATION REPORT
I. Pacific Theater.
Philippines: Ground patrol activity is increasing. Heavy
enemy air raids yesterday over Iloilo (on the south coast of Panay
Island) and over the Manila area. No results reported. Hawaii: No
further reports of hostile activity have been received. Wake: The Navy
reports a Japanese bombing attack on Wake in the late morning of the 18th.
No results were given., Hong Kong: Air attacks continued en the 17th.
The press states today that the British were fighting against Japanese
troops who are attempting landings on Hong Kong Island. Malaya: Heavy
fighting continues in the north. On the west coast the British are
evacuating Penang; in the east they are holding successfully. West
Coast: There have been no further reports of enemy activity.
II. Eastern Theater.
Ground: There is no reported change in the situation along
the entire front. The Russians claim continued success. (No rituation
map will be issued today.)
III, Western Theater.
Air: According to the British Air Ministry, the SCHARNHCRET
and GNEISENAU were again attacked yesterday at Brest by a large force
of R.A.F. bombers. The British admit losing six planes and claim that
they shot down eight German planes. Raids on these battleships were
renewed last night.
A single German aircraft dropped bombs on the coast of
East Anglia, causing some damage and a number of casualties.
IV. Middle Eastern Theater.
Ground: Axis troops are withdrawing westward with great
rapidity in two bodies. One body north of the Jebel Achdar by way of
Derna has set up a rear guard southeast of Derna proper. Body with-
drawing south of the mountains has set up a rear guard at Mechili.
British are pursuing both bodies vigorously.
Air: The press reports that yesterday's bombing attacks try
the R.A.F. were the heaviest of the present campaign in Libya.
Axis aircraft, according to the press, made torpedo at-
tacks on units of the British Lediterranean fleet yesterday off eastern
Libya.
RESTRICTED
Regraded Unclassified
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158
G-2/2657-220; No. 575
L.I.D.,
W.D.
11:00 A-ll-, December 19, 1941
SITUATION REPORT
I. Pacific Theater.
Hawaii: No further reports have been received. Philippines:
Press reports that Japanese troops landed yesterday morning at Davao
in southeast Lindanao. The general situation remains the same.
Borneo: According to the press, N.E.I. planes made bombing attacks over
the Hri area yesterday, and Japanese planes made an air raid on
Pontianak (southwest coast of Borneo). Malaya: No change reported south
of Kota Bharu, In the west, the British are withdrawing to a new de-
fensive position. Hong Kong: The situation at Hong Kong seems serious.
The press reports this morning that the British garrison there is still
holding against Japanese forees which have landed on the island. West
Coast: No further reports of enemy activity have been received.
II. Eastern Theater.
Ground: The German High Command reports no change on the
Eastern Front and claims the repulse of the Russians. The Russians
claim the capture of Ruza (north of Mozhaisk), Tarussa (southwest
of Serpukhov), and Khanino (15 milos west of Dubna).
III. Western Theater.
No further reports have been received.
IV. Middle Eastern Theater.
Ground: Axis retreating westward. Germans generally north of
Jebel Achdar (Lountains), Italians south. Axis losses severe. British
advance elements have reached vicinity Cirene and passed Mechill.
Air: According to the German High Command, German bombers
successfully raided military installations in Tobruk harbor. The that Italian
High Command admitted that Derne airport is in British hands and
the British had bombed Tripoli and Benghazi. Dalta, clain the Italians,
received a series of bombing attacks by formations of the German Air
Force.
RESTRICTED
Regraded Unclassified
159
December 20, 1941
Norman Thompson
Mr. Morgenthau
By eleven o'clook, if possible, I would like a
one-page memo from you, tolling me when I originally
asked you to make an investigation of Chick Schwarz's
office. I mean what date I asked you to do this. Who
made the investigation for you? I want the men's names.
I also want to know how long it took, when the investi-
gation was finished, and a very brief summary of what
the recommendations were.
Please try to get this into Mrs. Klotz's hands
by eleven this morning so that she can give it to me.
lubmitted 17/20/11-10:50-
Regraded Unclassified
160
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 20, 1941
TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Thompson
In reply to your memorandum of today with respect to Chick Schwarz'
office, I submit the following report:
on October ó, 1941, you directed me by memorandum to be responsible
for the efficiency of Chick Schware' office. On October 23, 1941, I
sent you a memorandum in which I advised that a study was made of the
operations of Chick's office and the efficiency of his personnel. Mr.
John D. Larson of my staff made the detailed investigation, with the
assistance of Mr. William Lynch of the Procurement Division.
On November 10, 1941, Mr. Larson submitted a preliminary report
dealing with the administrative phases of the office. This report con-
templated (1) correcting immediately existing inefficiencies occurring
in disseminating the Secretary's speeches, and (2) to better organize
the clipping work where considerable duplication WEB found. This report
received the approval of Messrs. Schwarz, Kuhn, Schoeneman, Bell and
myself, and the recommendations were put into effect at once. These
functions now are being carried on efficiently.
Subsequently, I advised you that Mr. Larson was working on the
second section of his report which would cover the matter of the per-
sonnel engaged in public relations work. This report was in process
inefficient men in Chick's office. This was accomplished on December 16th,
of preparation when you gave me your instructions to get, rid of the
DE were proceeding cautiously with these more important personnel changes
inasmuch as Messrs. Kuhn, Gaston and Chick were not in agreement, whereas
I felt and the investigators under me felt that notwithstanding the
support these men were receiving, they should be displaced. In the
course of this investigation, Chick agreed in the presence of Larson,
Schoeneman and Bell that Mayl, Lampman and Barbee were not capable -
ployees. As for Mr. Stone, the fourth to be transferred, this was done
largely on the strength of your impression of Mr. Stone coupled with the
fact that Mr. Graves had earlier indicated the unsatisfactory performance
ty Dr. 3tone and had separated him from the Savings Bonds Staff.
disfied with Mr. Schwarz 25 head of this important field of work.
The remaining question in my opinion is whether or not you are
I attach the original of Mr. Larson's preliminary report to which
I referred in case you may wish to look it over.
of
Regraded Unclassified
160
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE December 20, 1941
TO Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Thompson
In reply to your memorandum of today with respect to Chick Schwarz!
office, 1 submit the following report:
On October 6, 1941, you directed me by memorandum to be responsible
for the efficiency of Chick Schwarz' office. On October 23, 1941, I
sent you 4 memorandum in which I advised that a study was made of the
operations of Chick's office and the efficiency of his personnel. Mr.
John D. Larson of my staff made the detailed investigation, with the
assistance of Mr. William Lynch of the Procurement Division.
On November 10, 1941, Mr. Larson submitted a preliminary report
dealing with the administrative phases of the office. This report con-
templeted (1) correcting immediately existing inefficiencies occurring
in disseminating the Secretary's speeches, and (2) to better organize
the clipping work where considerable duplication was found. This report
received the approval of Messrs. Schwerz, Kuhn, Schoeneman, Bell and
myself, and the recommendations were put into effect at once. These
functions now are being carried on efficiently.
Subsequently, I advised you that Mr. Larson was working on the
second section of his report which would cover the matter of the per-
sonnel engaged in public relations work. This report was in process
of preparation when you gave me your instructions to get rid of the
inefficient men in Chick's office. This WE.S accomplished on December 16th.
AG were proceeding cautiously with these more important personnel changes
inssmuch as Messrs. Kuhn, Gaston and Chick were not in agreement, whereas
I felt and the investigators under me felt that notwithstanding the
support these men were receiving, they should be displaced. In the
course of this investigation, Chick agreed in the presence of Larson,
Schoeneman and Bell that Mayl, Lampman and Barbee were not capable am-
ployees. As for Mr. Stone, the fourth to be transferred, this was done
largely on the strength of your impression of Mr. Stone coupled with the
fact that Mr. Graves had earlier indicated the unsatisfactory performance
by 15. Stone and had separated him from the Savings Benda Staff.
Attefied with Mr. Schwarz as head of this important field of work.
The remaining question in my opinion is whether or not you are
1 attach the original of Mr. Larson's preliminary report to which
I have referred in case you may wish to look it over.
often
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December 20, 1941
11 a.m.
GROUP MEETING
Present:
Mr. Gaston
Mr. Graves
Mr. Buffington
Mr. Kuhn
Mr. Schwarz
Mr. Paul
Mr. Sullivan
Mr. Thompson
Mr. Haas
Mr. Foley
Mr. Viner
Mr. Morris
Mr. White
Mrs. Klotz
Mr. Bell
H.M.Jr:
So many people have wanted to see me that I
couldn't do it individually --
Viner:
What are you hiding for?
Paul:
I am not hiding. I couldn't hide very much
behind you anyway. (Laughter)
H.M.Jr:
One of the things - I have got a lot of odds
and ends - there is supposed to be a story
written for Time. Would you mind my telling it?
Gaston:
I don't mind at all. It was perfectly
ridiculous.
H.M.Jr:
Gaston called me up - well, you might 8.5 well
have it, as long as all the newsmen know it.
It was supposedly that the reason that these
men were eliminated from the news room, there was
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a plot on the part of Foley and Graves against
Gaston. Well, I asked Schwarz to handle it
and he didn't handle it through Felix Belair
but he got a very unsatisfactory answer and
it occurred to me that the man to talk to was
the man that covers the Treasury.
[thwarat
Crider will be here at 11:45 and he would like
to see you alone rather than with the other
boys.
B.W.Je:
Well, the thing that you could have done, Chick,
for me, you could have thought of seeing Crider.
Schwarz:
I did. I have talked with him.
H.H.JrT
Well, anyway, I am doing everything that I can
personally to get to the bottom of it and kill
it, because we don't have that kind of thing.
It doesn't exist in the Treasury. It is the
kind of thing that I like to do if somebody
else is under fire, just the way when I am
under fire my people try to protect me; but I
just thought I would tell it to you. I don't
know what it is all about. Perlmeter wrote me
a letter of ugly rumors around the Treasury
and could he see me and some of the boys, SO
I thought I could do it better today than
Monday . I don't like those kind of things
hanging over my head, 50 he is coming in when?
Schwarz:
At noon.
H.M.Jr:
But I am seeing these men alone. But Crider
wants to come in at --
Schwars:
I have talked with him thoroughly and he said
simply that he had to send B. memorandum on
what he was told up to New York. lle doesn't
think they are going to print anything.
What did he tell you about it, so that I know.
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(Mr. Bell entered the conference.)
H.M.Jr:
There is a chair over here, Dan.
Schwarz:
He didn't have anything about a plot. I think
that was News Week's story.
Gaston:
Walter Fitzmaurice called me up, of News Week,
to tell me and he said Time had that story.
Schwarz:
Crider denies there was any plot but said
there were rumors of jealousies and feelings.
H.M.Jr:
Well, anyway, it is the kind of thing that I-
it doesn't exist in the Treasury because I
won't let it exist and when somebody - I will
do the best I can anyway for everybody
involved by seeing the men myself alone and
collectively. I know how unpleasant those
kind of stories are. I thought I would do it
today 80 I would have it off my mind and it
won't worry me.
Gaston:
I certainly appreciate it.
H.M.Jr:
Well, you have done it often enough for me,
Herbert. If there is anything that any of you
men involved should know before I go home, I
will let you know. In fact, I will let you
know anyway, the result.
I have got a couple of things. I don't expect
8. lot of stuff. I will talk as long as I can.
There are two memoranda. Bell, have you got
that first one -- I mean White? I gave it to
you. It is a month old, Harry.
White:
I have them right here.
H.M.Jr:
No, I mean the one from the Director of the
Budget.
White:
Yes.
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H.M.Jr:
Could I have that one?
White:
Yes. Here is & draft of our reply.
H.M.Jr:
Where is the President's? Where is the actual
memo?
White:
I have some thoughts on it if you want to
discuss it.
H.M.Jr:
Well, something has happened since then.
This affects everybody. This affects the
speech in New York. It cuts across so many
people. I can't see each person.
Bell, read the President's memo to me and
then what is attached, you see.
Bell:
Read Smith's memorandum too?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Bell:
"Memorandum for the Secretary of the Treasury
from the President: I enclose memorandum
from Harold Smith and have asked him to
cooperate with you in letting me have a
general outline of the tax policy or program
for inclusion in my budget message."
Harold Smith's memorandum to the President
is dated December 17th.
"The proposed budget message for 1943 has
gone through several drafts here in the office.
It seems quite clear that the budget message
should be used as a vehicle to set forth a
more comprehensive statement of the fiscal
situation and the fiscal policy than has ever
been done before. The budget picture is
affected by price control, priorities and
allocations, credit control, as well as the
obvious expenditure and revenue aspects.
In view of the possible deficit of thirty-eight
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billion dollars for 1943, based on present
revenue measures, I feel that an integrated
financial program should be incorporated
in the budget message. I believe that it
will give the country B. feeling of confidence
that such a program is being formulated for
adoption.
"We have already drafted the message tentatively
to include what we believe to be the general
outline of the Treasury tax program. If you
agree that there is advantage in 8. rather
comprehensive statement of the fiscal situation,
I will be glad to try to iron out the text
with the Treasury in advance of presentation
to you in order to conserve your time."
R.W.Jr:
Well, I called up Harold Smith yesterday and
told him that the President sent this to me
and that I would be glad to see him, so he
said should he work it out with Bell and I
said no, that I wanted him to see me, myself,
and that we would be very glad if he gave us
time enough to go over anything that the
President wanted to say a bout taxes, or fiscal
policy.
Well, he said he was very busy and I said,
"Well, just give ne time enough and I will be
glad to sit down. If Now it seemed to me that
Sullivan and Paul - that we shouldn't wait
until Harold Smith comes over with a draft
as to what he thinks the President should
say about taxes, but you fellows had better
get busy, see, and have some thing for me as
soon as possible.
What we would like the President to say, if
we are going to carry the ball, you see, which
I think we should, and which is the President's
attitude in his memorandum to me. In other
words, that is 8. very cleverly worded memorandum
of Smith's but the President doesn't simply
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say that. He sends it to me. He is looking
to me. Well, I want to respond and I want
to have something 80 that when Harold Smith
comes over, the President - "if you want to
say something on taxes, Mr. President, or if
you want to say something"- he spoke about the
difference in the gap, what I call the Shoup
plan or theory - lets us say something. He
wrote the President on this on October 29th,
Smith did, on this thing, and the people who
have read it say it isn't very good. Isn't
that what you said, Harry? Somebody told me
that.
White:
I didn't say that.
H.M.Jr:
Well, somebody read it anyway.
Bell:
I haven't seen it.
H.M.Jr:
Yes you have, excuse me.
Bell:
Harold Smith's memorandum?
H.M.Jr:
Yes, look; I think you saw it. It is old,
Didn't you see that?
Bell:
No.
H.M.Jr:
You haven't seen it?
Bell:
No, sir, I haven't.
H.M.Jr:
Well, that is my error.
Bell:
The only one I have seen from him is that
statement.
H.M.Jr:
Well, now, Dan, we can't write anything. We
can write something - here is the thing: We
can say something to the President on the gap
as between civilian goods and production and
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purchasing power, can't we?
Paul:
We have got plenty of material on that.
H.M.Jr:
We can say something on how much - how that
should be mopped up, that popular word.
Bell:
Don't use that word.
H.M.Jr:
I know. Now, that is why I called the group
in. I don't know how many people are affected.
If we are to say something or put something
in the President's mouth, do I want to say it
on Sunday, the 28th? You see? Now, do you
see, Ferdie, why I asked you to wait? I had
to catch my breath, I mean this morning.
Kuhn:
We had talked about the 28th and I wanted to
report to you on what John and Randolph and
Tommy Tarleau thought.
H.M.Jr:
We will go ahead.
Kuhn:
We all agreed that you should not talk about
taxes in any way at that particular party up
in New York because that would be made up of
sharpshooters who would be only too glad to get
some advance indication of what you were
wanting to do and they would start to work and
criticize it.
H.M.Jr:
Well, that is one reason. Now, if you want to
put it into the mouth of the President to say
it on January 5th, that is & much better reason
why I shouldn't say it. what?
White:
Has it been customary for the Treasury in the
past budget messages to write the portions
dealing with taxes?
H.M.Jr:
Bell can answer that better.
Bell:
Up to 1939. (Laughter) As long as I was on
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the Treasury payroll and acting Director of
the Budget, yes.
White:
I personally think it is inexcusable for the
Treasury not to do it as B. routine thing each
time. Every time there is a budget message
going up and you know about it ahead of time,
there ought to be a memorandum suggesting the
inclusion of something.
H.M.Jr:
Well, Paul - where is Paul? I am going to
pin this on you, see. This is the part that
would come under you, see.
Paul:
All right.
H.M.Jr:
And ask everybody in this room who has anything
on it please to cooperate with you.
Bell:
I should think it would have to be rather general,
Mr. Secretary. You can say here is the gap
and it must be taken up through additional
taxation. You can't go into 8. program because
the program isn't ready. I don't believe
Smith meant that, as to the program the Treasury
has in mind. I don't believe that he could
have written anything, as he has indicated
here, as to the Treasury program, because he
has only sat in one conference and that was up
at John's house that night.
Do you agree with that, John? He couldn't
have written the Treasury program, because it
wasn't available.
Paul:
But he might have written his own program.
Bell:
No, he says, "I have written what I understand
to be the Treasury program. We include what
we believe to be the general outline of the
Treasury tax program.
White:
what is the date of that, Dan?
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Bell:
The 17th. So it would have to be quite
general for him to have written it.
Paul:
Isn't it possible to get his draft? I would
like to see what he did say.
White:
I am inclined to think the Secretary is right
in saying that without seeing his draft, a
draft ought to be prepared here. It ought to
be a Treasury draft and then let him go over
that or combine it.
Bell:
It seems to me you would have to, some place
along the line, see the budget draft in order
to fit what you are going to say on taxes into
that whole message, because he is going to say
something on prices and priorities and everything
else.
Paul:
The most important question is to know whether
it is to be very extremely general or to go into
detail and details are indicated from what you
read.
White:
I think, Randolph, that is & decision that in
the first instance should be made by you and
your group, that the President will accept
anything that is good, and if you think that
you can phrase something which has sufficient
detail and follows the kind of principles
which apparently Smith has suggested as being
novel, then the President will accept it, so that
I don't think you need more instructions than
those that are already before you to draft
something for the budget speech.
It may not be what finally emerges, but
certainly you ought to get the best kind of
statement you think the President ought to make.
H.M.Jr:
Let me help guide you, and Bell can check me
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on this, and Sullivan. We have never been
able to get the President to get into details.
He won't talk about depletion of community
property, you see, or inheritance taxes. He
won't say it. So you have got to talk about
principle. We have never been able to get him
to say that, John.
Sullivan:
This is one time I hope we will.
Paul:
I agree with that.
H.M.Jr:
No, but he wouldn't say it anyway. It is B.
question of principles and you have got to just
crystallize your own thinking, plus - Blough
isn't here, is he?
Sullivan:
No.
H.M.Jr:
Well, everybody else that has anything, and
then get it to me just as fast as you can. This
is just forcing our hand. I would much rather
say to the President - write the President a
letter, "My dear Mr. President, I have received
your note from Harold Smith and I am delighted
to have the opportunity to give you the
Treasury's ideas, and I am sending this to
you and B. copy to Harold Smith; and Harold Smith
and I have arranged to sit down and go over it
together."
White:
That is right. That is the way it should be.
H.M.Jr:
To take the initiative, because Harold Smith
has every reason to say, "Well, Mr. President,
I had to do something, because the Treasury
didn't give me anything. Every other department
has. Every other department has given me
something.
White:
I think it ought to be done over the weekend.
It ought to be done fast.
Paul:
Obviously.
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H.M.Jr:
Now Randolph, will you take that?
Paul:
Yes, sure.
H.M.Jr:
There is no use - and then as I say, I have
got to pin it on somebody. I am available any
time Monday.
Sullivan:
I think we ought to have that Monday morning
for you.
H.M.Jr:
I am ready. I will tell you now, ten o'clock
Monday morning.
Bell:
Do you want any attempt made to get 8. copy of
the present draft of the budget message from
Smith?
H.M.Jr:
If you would ask him that, tell him that we
are working over the weekend.
Bell:
I think the savings bonds ought to fit in to
this too. Obviously he is going to say quite
a lot about inflation. He is going to speak
about deficit and then talk about inflation
and prices. We ought to show from the fiscal
angle what we can do to stave off inflation.
Most important is taxes and next comes savings
bonds.
H.M.Jr:
I don't blame Harold Smith for pushing because
we haven't - we have just been doing nothing
in trying to get the stuff to the President
and to him to include it.
Bell:
Of course, he has never included anything in
his message on taxes heretofore.
H.M.Jr:
Well, anyway, here it is. The President writes
me & very nice memorandum and is very courteous --
Bell:
I think it is a good thing to have a. general
thing about taxes, the fiscal program in the
budget.
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Morris:
Is the fiscal program for this purpose going
to include some general principles of borrowing?
That is what I have been trying to figure out.
You wanted us to try something on not only the
savings bonds but your general financing
program. I don't want to do it if we can avoid
it, but do you think we are forced into doing it?
Bell:
No, I don't think 80. The only thing you might
want to consider is as to whether or not the
President might want to say something about
interest rates.
Viner:
That is right.
Bell:
This might be a good place to say something,
that our average interest rate is 80 much
and that we do not expect to finance this war
above that level.
H.M.Jr:
No, I am sorry.
Bell:
That is important.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I would much rather have what Dave
Morris said, something on the borrowing. The
borrowing - I mean, Dan, let's put - this is
what I am asking this group, and each person
that - let's say that - I am saying here now,
let this group produce something that covers
the whole fiscal and tax program and how we
in the Treasury feel we would like to see the
thing handled. Now, I am not interested in
interest rates except as a very incidental
thing, but the whole thing, Mr. President -
we can use the things here. Let's go on the
basis that you are going to spend - you (Haas)
got those figures from OPM. We are going to -
we will go in jumps of five billion, that we are
going to spend thirty billion, thirty-five,
forty, forty-five, fifty billion, whatever it
is. Depending upon that program the Treasury
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feels we are going to have to borrow 80 much.
We can do so much with Defense Savings Bonds
and we can do 80 much in taxes. And here is
the thing, Mr. President.
Ball:
I agree with you.
H.M.Jr:
See?
Bell:
Yes. To that extent I agree with you, that
the borrowing program ought to be in, but not
too much detail on borrowing.
H.M.Jr:
No, no, that is why I don't want to say anything
about interest rates.
Bell:
Well, we may come to that. We ought to talk
about that because that is very important.
Morris:
That is the heart of the matter.
Bell:
Yes, it is very important.
H.M.Jr:
Excuse me one minute. Let me just run through
this thing once more. Here comes this thing
in. I have always prided myself, I like to be
a little bit ahead of the parade. All right.
We do this thing - 8. fiscal program for the next
fiscal year, the Treasury's program, and we
give it to them. Then we sit down. Harold
Graves says this is fine, and we argue it out.
But if we don't, Smith has every reason to
believe that he can lay down the fiscal program.
Now, Dan, are you in disagreement?
Bell:
Not as & general matter, but laying down &
fiscal program, 8. borrowing program for the
fiscal year which is six months off - the beginning
of it is six months off - I don't think it can
be done for the budget message.
Viner:
I think the program is the wrong word. The
Treasury ought to state its philosophy here.
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H.M.Jr:
Thank you, Jake.
Viner:
The program has to be worked out as to techniques
and detail, but the general drift as to its
attitude and approach ought to be stated in
that message.
H.M.Jr:
Are you here over the weekend?
Viner:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Wonderful. Herbert, where do you agree or
disagree?
Gaston:
I think this, that the budget program of necessity
must contain some statement of general fiscal
policy, not only taxation, but the general
fiscal policy of the Government. That is
mainly the business of the Treasury Department.
I think it would be perfectly ridiculous for
the Director of the Budget to prepare B.
budget message without submitting the whole
budget message to the Treasury, particularly
for discussion as to what should be said on
fiscal policy, and I don't agree that we
ought to submit stuff to Harold Smith for
inclusion in the message.
I think Smith should, on his part, consult
with the Treasury before he drafts the
fiscal policy portion of his message.
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H.M.Jr:
Granted, but we have no excuse to ask him -
if he comes back and says, "Well, Mr. Morgen-
thau, what is your attitude on this thing?
"Well, we are thinking about, but here Mr.
Smith, here is our plan." "Well, here, Mr.
Roosevelt, is our plan." Then the President
says, "Harold, go over and see Henry and get
that stuff. He has some good stuff. Some
of it I like and some of it I don't like."
Gaston:
I think he certainly should do that in an
early stage of drafting the message.
H.M.Jr:
Let's see how we are going to divide this
thing up, Dan. Certainly you are going to
try and get a draft, aren't you?
Bell:
Yes, I will try to right away.
H.M.Jr:
On the borrowing stuff, and you have got
your people to help. What's-his-name is
sitting there.
Bell:
Morris and George.
H.M.Jr:
What you need from Harold Graves in the way
of what he thinks he can do through Defense
Savings Bonds and whatever he tells you, up
it a little bit, just the way you know, the
President always upped our revenue and downed
our spending. We will do that after we get
the figures from Harold. Then Paul and Sul-
livan and Blough will get busy on the other
thing, and then we will hit it Monday morning;
and Jake, you be there to tell everybody
when they are good and bad and put your own oar
in.
Viner:
I will be at anybody's service.
H.M.Jr:
And Harry, a general contribution from your
section would be welcome.
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White:
O.K.
H.M.Jr:
General contributions, anything that you
have got, will be welcome.
Foley, what can you contribute on this
thing?
Foley:
Nothing.
H.M.Jr:
That leaves you and Herbert and I and Kuhn
and Mrs. Klots, we sit back here and we
will be the critics.
Gaston:
Lovely.
H.M.Jr:
If any of your boys, Foley, have got any
ideas. I will not contribute anything over
the weekend. I won't phone anybody after
midnight. Let's take anybody that has got
any ideas so we have - Paul is going to carry
the tax ball, Bell will carry the fiscal end,
and everybody is welcome with suggestions
until we get something and do the hair pulling
before ten o'clock.
White:
Doesn't it all have to be woven into one, and
doesn't somebody have to have the responsi-
bility for that? I think that will be the
most difficult part.
H.M.Jr:
No, I don't--
Bell:
I think it all has to be gotten together and
where it fits into the message, if we can
get & copy--
Paul:
But I think we ought to have a clearing house.
Everybody ought to give me his ideas, and I
have to weave something together then and
submit it to the crowd.
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H.M.Jr:
You mean, including the borrowing?
White:
Everything.
Paul:
No, I mean just the tax. I suppose the same
technique would apply to Mr. Bell.
White:
That still doesn't fit what I thought - it
has to be woven into one picture, doesn't
it?
Bell:
Then the two groups ought to get together
and see how one fits with the other. I
think Harry is right.
Paul:
Oh, I beg your pardon. I agree with you.
Sullivan:
He means the two different sections together.
Paul:
Oh, I agree with that.
H.M.Jr:
Well, everybody is going to have a wonder-
ful weekend, but we have never had a good week-
end from Christmas until New Years. I think
that is enough. That. is about all.
Bell:
Want me to give copies of that--
H.M.Jr:
Yes. Anybody got anything minute, funny?
Gaston:
I have a letter from the Secretary of War,
but I think I will go into it Monday with
you.
H.M.Jr:
Have you got something you want me to sign?
Are you through, Herbert?
Gaston:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
Nothing too important.
Foley:
We want to restore some of these general
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licenses, reinstating the Japanese program.
The only reason I bring it up is because you
said on license number one which permits
them to make deposits in the blocked accounts,
you would like to have the thing brought
back to you. All right?
H.V.Jr:
Do I have to sign anything?
Foley:
No, I will do it.
H.M.Jr:
Use the old bean.
Foley:
O.K.
H.M.Jr:
All right?
Sullivan:
I have several matters, but they don't
qualify under your instructions.
H.M.Jr:
Well, could they cook? Would the pot boil
over?
Sullivan:
They can cook until Monday all right.
H.M.Jr:
The pot won't boil over?
Sullivan:
No. The Commissioner wants to leave this
evening to go to Kansas.
H.M.Jr:
For how many weeks?
Sullivan:
He will be back here the third.
H.M.Jr:
The third?
Klotz:
He is tired.
Sullivan:
So am I.
Bell:
We all are.
Klotz:
He has really been sick.
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Sullivan:
We ought to let those that feel all right
have some fun.
H.M.Jr:
It is all right with me. Is it all right
with you?
Sullivan:
Yes, sir.
H.M.Jr:
Anything else?
Sullivan:
No. I have 8. personal question I want to
ask you later on if I have & chance.
H.M.Jr:
Want to stay afterward?
Sullivan:
Yes, just a minute,
H.M.Jr:
All right, Randolph?
Paul:
You have given me enough to do.
H.M.Jr:
Dr. Viner?
George? I hear you are going to charge up
on the Hill with Walt Disney in your pocket.
Buffington:
What is that?
H.M.Jr:
Are you going up on the Hill Monday to get
Mickey Mouse?
Buffington:
Going to try to.
Thompson:
It is before the Bureau of the Budget.
H.M.Jr:
I see. Wonderful. Have you got anything,
Dave.
Morris:
I am not sure, but I would like to mention
it. You can shut me off if you want it to
wait.
On those loans to small industry which are
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very important in this defense proposition,
in effect I think Eccles wants the Treasury
to carry the ball on that to prove that
something ought to be done, and he ought to
do it rather than Jesse Jones who has the
power but nobody has ever induced him to do
it, and I don't know if you want me to start
digging into that too hard.
H.M.Jr:
No, that is a fight I don't want to - I pick
my fights and that is one fight I don't want
to pick. Eccles - when Ecoles wants to fight
he can fight, and I don't want to take on
his fight.
Morris:
And we give him our blessing?
H.M.Jr:
That is right.
Morris:
You are willing to do that?
H.M.Jr:
Oh, yes.
Bell:
A little more, I think, than that. It is a
question of whether we expand or whether
we repeal 13b, in which we are very much
intorested in. We are using our money. In
a conference yesterday the question came up
as to whether we should try to find out just
what the problem is by asking one or two
officers of the War Department as to what they
would run up against.
Now, have they run up against this problem,
and, if they have, then we have got to say
who is going to do it.
Morris:
Dan, can I say one thing? OPM came over to
see me this morning because they are very
upset about it.
Bell:
Upset about what, Eccles?
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Morris:
No, about the sub-contractors getting no-
where, and while they say they don't care who
does it, they indicated off the record that
they would rather have Eccles do it than
the RFC because they have had such bad luck
with the RFC, but they are very upset about
getting nowhere.
Bell:
I think if we are satisfied that there is a
problem and the War Department and Navy or
OPM wants something done, I think we can
say to Ecoles that we don't care. If he
wants to expand 13b, it is his problem and
if Jesse Jones wants to do it, which he will
get through committee action after it goes
up, probably, it is all right too. If Jesse
Jones does it, then I think 13b ought to be
repealed and the money ought to come back to
the Treasury.
H.M.Jr:
Dan, I can't absorb it this morning. All I
can tell you, Dave, if it is a fight between
Jones and Eccles, you know the story about
the man that tries to separate husband and
wife fighting on the streets. I always get
licked by those two birds. (Laughter) They
always get together. They always have. The
whole fight with Giannini, Eccles, and - I
never knew whether it was Eccles or Jones,
but they always were on Giannini's side,
always.
Bell:
I don't think we got licked.
H.M.Jr:
Well, I was fighting both of them and the
rest of the world, but look what it took out
of me. Look at the time. It took five years.
Viner:
I think you can support the idea without
entering into the question as to who ought
to execute it. The fight would all be on the
execution.
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H.M.Jr:
O.K., Ambassador, take your cue from Dr.
Viner. We missed you at our luncheon the
other day in Chicago.
Viner:
Well, I had to catch a train.
H.M.Jr:
You needn't get sore about it. (Laughter)
Viner:
I am apologizing.
Klotz:
That is an apologetic voice.
H.M.Jr:
All the other important bankers in Chicago
where there.
Bell:
Any professors?
Viner:
Is that B. compliment. (Laughter)
Morris:
I don't know.
White:
Mr. Secretary, I think this is a little bit
more important, and there are a few more
angles to this than appears right now, and
I am wondering whether you would reconsider
the thing Monday morning. I think your course
is right, but I don't think Dave Morris has
quite got what you want him to do, and I
think there is danger there because to fol-
low Jack's procedure means that Jesse Jones
isn't doing his job. Now, that may very well
be, but I don't know why - there is another
angle from which this thing can be approached
and in which you can keep out of it entirely.
H.M.Jr:
Well, Harry, until we do this fiscal and
monetary and borrowing thing for the Presi-
dent, and B. speech for 8. week from Sunday,
I an not going to take on anything else.
Viner:
That is urgent.
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H.M.Jr:
Which?
Viner:
This other. I wouldn't hold it up anyway.
I wouldn't let Treasury be a barrier.
Bell:
I don't think we should take it on yet.
The only question here is whether we shall
go and find out what the facts are.
H.M.Jr:
No, I don't want to do that.
Bell:
Up to that point, and then let somebody else
have it.
H.W.Jr:
Not today, anyway. Anybody that has got any
information, I would like--
Morris:
OPM is sending me some information.
H.M.Jr:
All right. We will hear what Harry has to say,
too.
Bell:
Do you care if we contact the Army to see
what information they have got?
H.M.Jr:
No, that is all right.
Bell:
That is about as far as we want to go.
H.M.Jr:
That is all right.
Well, George is running a chart right on the
facilities that Federal Finance is doing. You
have got a chart for them?
hass:
Yes, sir, I carry it with me every day. It
is right here.
H.M.Jr:
Well, unburden it now. I have had George
studying how far and how fast Jones has been
financing facilities. lie has been at it for
about 8. month.
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Morris:
Well, just one sample, OPM told me in the
last two weeks they presented twenty situa-
tions to him, and he had only helped them
in four.
H.M.Jr:
Go to it. I like your courage.
Morris:
Well, I will just get - can I talk to the
Army and Navy informally?
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Bell:
That is all we wanted to know.
H.M.Jr:
I have waited a long time for somebody to
find out what Jesse Jones hasn't been doing
on this. O.K., Dave?
Morris:
Thank you.
H.M.Jr:
Ferdinand?
Kuhn:
I would like to mention again that speech
Sunday night because in view of the fact
that you can't talk about taxes at all or a
fiscal policy, I think it would be wiser to
cancel the whole engagement. I don't see
what you can talk about appropriately to
that group. It is not just a group of - it
is not a Boston Advertising Club or women's
club. They are--
White:
What is it?
Kuhn:
It is the Institute of Public Administration
and the Association of Political Science up
in New York on Sunday night.
White:
Public Administration?
Kuhn:
Yes.
White:
Why can't that be his speech, "Administration"?
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Kuhn:
Well, the Secretary can talk about the
administering of Government in wartime.
White:
It is B. very good topic.
Kuhn:
It is a good subject, but I wonder whether
he wants to talk on it.
H.M.Jr:
Look, I haven't had time. I am just pacing
the floor. I have been trying to get to-
gether with Harold Smith in some way that
he doesn't feel that we are his enemy number
one. Now, he is president of this organiza-
tion, and, if I cancel the speech, nothing is
going to irritate him more. Isn't he presi-
dent of it?
Bell:
Yes, sir, and Luther Gulick is vice presi-
dent.
H.M.Jr:
Now, if I cancelled that - this is the apple
of his eye. Ask Viner. He will write a
speech in four or five minutes on it.
Viner:
I would get Luther Gulick on it. He is an
expert on the stuff those people expect. I
would like to talk to you. There are things
you can do on that. This is a timely thing,
the whole question of wartime Government
administration.
White:
It is one of the roundtables on that very
topic.
H.M.Jr:
I wouldn't give up so easily because Harold
Smith and Gulick--
Viner:
They wouldn't want 8. talk on taxation as such.
That isn't their role. Their role is on the
question of operating the Government.
H.M.Jr:
Dan, don't you think it would be 8 mistake
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to cancel it?
Bell:
I wouldn't turn it down.
H.M.Jr:
Look, let me catch my breath. Talk with Viner.
Viner:
Where is Gulick? Is he around? Is Gulick
around?
White:
Yes, he is.
H.M.Jr:
Could you maybe, and then get some ideas?
Viner:
Yes.
Kuhn:
Yes.
H.M.Jr:
All right.
How far did I get? Did I get beyond Harold?
Graves:
You sent me a letter this morning from
Congressman Cannon of Florida --
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Graves:
....in which he suggested that we ought to
have bonds and stamps in the post office at
the Capitol.
H.M.Jr:
We had that once before.
Graves:
We will reopen that, but I would like to
refresh your recollection about what happened
before.
H.M.Jr:
Is that Cannon of --
Graves:
Of Florida. It is not Cannon of Missouri.
H.M.Jr:
Don't worry. I thought it was Cannon of
Missouri.
Graves:
You see, those post offices are under the
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Capitol, not under the Post Office Department.
H.M.Jr:
Write him a letter for my signature. I
thought it was Cannon of Missouri.
Graves:
I thought you might have thought SO, It
was Cannon of Florida.
H.M.Jr:
Thank you.
George?
Haas:
These figures on Savings Bonds just came in,
and I did not have time to complete the
table, but I have them here on this sheet.
H.M.Jr:
This week we have done twenty-four million,
eight million eight, twenty-one million four,
twenty-five million, twenty-two and a half
million. Very nice.
Chick?
Schwarz:
I have an important speech invitation which
I will bring up on Monday.
H.M.Jr:
Harry?
White:
Mr. Clark of Canada telephoned that it is
inconvenient for him to come next week. He
would like to come the week following provided
you are going to be here Monday, Tuesday, or
Wednesday. Do you have any--
H.M.Jr:
Ask me Friday, next Friday. I can't tell,
Harry. I don't know.
White:
As far as you know you are, because if you
are not, he wants to come this week and it
is inconvenient for him.
H.M.Jr:
No, New Year's Day I hope to spend on the farm.
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White:
New Year's Day is on Thursday.
H.M.Jr:
I hope to be on the farm. I can't tell,
Harry.
White:
It is on a Thursday.
H.M.Jr:
I can't tell. Ask me the day after Christmas.
White:
But you definitely don't know that you are
not going to be here?
H.M.Jr:
No, I won't say that. (Laughter)
White:
All right.
H.M.Jr:
I don't know, Harry.
White:
All right.
Mr. Irigoyen called me yesterday at the
request of the State Department. He pre-
sented certain matters. I am writing it up.
We will have a little meeting here and then
we will have something to present to you.
What he has asked for, I don't think is within
our province, but I will present it to you.
H.M.Jr:
Any Argentinian champagne?
White:
It is a little early for that. I didn't
think the first meeting was appropriate as &
time to ask for it.
H.M.Jr:
Remember, fifty-fifty.
White:
Mine is all gone. I will remember. (Laughter)
H.M.Jr:
As a matter of fact, I don't like Argentinian -
I will take the red wine in place of the
champagne.
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White:
We got it for nothing, you realize. They
never did--
H.M.Jr:
Same basis.
Bell?
Bell:
Do you want the draft of the report of the
Byrd Committee to come up to the house.
H.M.Jr:
Yes.
Bell:
I will have it sometime today.
H.M.Jr:
Right. Thank you.
Bell:
That is all.
Thompson:
To ease the space situation in the Treasury
building, I am planning to move Mrs. Ross
of the Mint Bureau out if that is O.K. with
you.
H.M.Jr:
It is wonderful, but I just want to know who
is going to issue the order.
Thompson:
I will issue it.
Bell:
Harold Graves.
Klotz:
Yes, Harold Graves.
H.M.Jr:
Harold can't take it.
Thompson:
I will take care of it.
H.M.Jr:
Where are you moving her?
Thompson:
Over to the Washington Building.
H.M.Jr:
What are you telling her?
Thompson:
Cy Upham has arranged to move his Insolvent
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Bank Division.
H.M.Jr:
When are you moving Nellie?
Thompson:
Next week.
H.M.Jr:
Couldn't you see Nellie home on B. day I am
out of town or something?
Thompson:
Yes, I can hold it up. It isn't so urgent.
Klotz:
She won't come up.
H.M.Jr:
You know the McReynolds story. All right.
Wonderful.
(The Secretary held 8. telephone conversa-
tion with Mr. Knudsen.)
Klotz:
If you start it with him, you are going to
have a time.
Foley:
Jenkins, the president of the General Motors
Export Company, is waiting for me in my
office now.
H.M.Jr:
What is the thing? You give how much to a
person and how much for each child?
Foley:
He is entitled to a hundred dollars a month
and twenty-five dollars in addition for each
dependent. That is the general rule. Now,
what he wants to do is to give the family
ten thousand dollars for Christmas, and you
can't do it.
H.M.Jr:
Oh, no.
Foley:
And he just happens - you tell him you can't
do it, you tell him what the regulations are,
and then he gets his export man to come in
with this idea of crediting the account of
General Motors Export here with ten thousand
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dollars and having the money paid out in
Denmark to the sisters. Now, you can't
do for him what you can't do for everybody
else, and everybody else--
H.M.Jr:
Ed, you are telling me that? (Laughter)
Foley:
Well, you know, for Christmas.
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dollars and having the money paid out in
Denmark to the sisters. Now, you can't
do for him what you can't do for everybody
else, and everybody else--
H.M.Jr:
Ed, you are telling me that? (Laughter)
Foley:
Well, you know, for Christmas.
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December 20, 1941
11:45 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Wm. S.
Knudsen:
This 1s Knudsen.
HMJr:
Well, for gosh sake. It's like a voice from
the dead.....
K:
(Laughs)
HMJr:
.....as far as I'm concerned.
K:
Well, I never like to bother people unless I've
got something concrete to bother them about.
HMJr:
Well, I like to see you when you've got nothing
but just a nice "how-do-you-do".
K:
(Laughs) I got four sisters.
HMJr:
Four sisters.
K:
/eah. They live in Copenhagen.
HMJr:
Yes.
K:
They've got children and grandchildren.
HMJr:
Yes.
K:
Since 1928 I have sent them $200 each every
month.
HMJr:
Yeah.
K:
The funds that I have over there run out
January the first.
HMJr:
Yeah.
K:
I have asked General Motors to give them krones
out of the plant over there, and I will refund
it in dollars here.
HMJr:
Yes.
K:
In cash. I'm told that there's a regulation
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which forbids a transaction of this kind.
HMJr:
I see.
K:
And Mr. Pehle
HMJr:
Yes.
X:
in your Department
HMJr:
Yes.
K:
knows the negotiations with G.M. in that
respect.
HMJr:
Right.
K:
I want to ask you, as a friendly favor to a man
that wante to help his sisters
HMJr:
Yes.
K:
whether there's any way I could continue
this money beyond January first.
HMJr:
Well, Bill, I'll look into it personally; and
if there's any possible way of doing it, we'll
certainly do it for you.
K:
I've done it since 1928.
HMJr:
Well, we'll look into it. It's difficult.
X:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Very difficult.
K:
Yeah.
HMJr:
But
K:
Well, I understand furthermore, that there's
some possibility of giving a hundred dollars
HMJr:
Yes.
K:
and twenty-five dollars for each dependent.
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HMJr:
That's right.
K:
But there are plenty of dependents.
HMJr:
There are?
K:
In other words, the Knudsen family is quite
prolific.
HMJr:
Well, that would help.
K:
All right.
HMJr:
I'll have an answer - I'll tell you what we
can or cannot do by Monday.
K:
Thank you very much.
HMJr:
Thank you.
K:
Thank you, sir.
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Relations
belongs_to
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