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OCR Page 1 of 2DIARY
Book 491
February 1 - 3, 1942
- à -
Book
Page
Airplanes
Shipments to British Forces - Kamarck report - 2/2/42..
491
232
Aircraft flight delivery, February 2, 1942 - British
Air Commission report - 2/3/42
235-A
Appointments and Resignations
Hardy, Charles 0. (Brookings Institution): Viner suggests
for Haas's staff - 2/2/42
60.65
Powel, Earford: Change from Director of Information
(Defense Savings Bonds) to Consultant discussed by
HMJr, Graves, Kuhn, and Odegard - 2/2/42,
8,9
- B -
Bullitt, William C.
See Foreign Funds Control: General Aniline and Film
Corporation
Business Conditions
Haan menoranous on mituation. week ending January 31, 1942,
217
C
China
Loan:
Phillips and H/Jr discuss simultaneous releases on terms;
Phillipe states British expectation that loan would
be repaid promptly; British share to be E30 million -
2/1/42
2,4
a) Copy of British memorandum sent to Hull -
2/2/42
13
b) Discussion by White House group prior to HKJr's
appearance on the Hill - 2/2/42
15,39
1) Conversation with Bureau of Budget - 2/2/42,,
27
2) Conversation with Jesse Jones,
30
3) Joint Resolution as okayed by 708 out not
used
32
4) FDR's letter to Speaker and Vice Fresident
33,34
5) Stimeon's and Knox's letters to FDP.
36,37
5) Hull's letter to FOR
38
7) Scong-HMJr conversation
40
8) HMJr-Litvinoff conversation
44
9) Hull-HMJr conversation
47
10) HMJr-Early conversation
35
11) Berle-HMJr conversation,
52
12) Rayburn-HMJr conversation
63
13) Joint Resolution (copy) sent to Scong,
Litvinoff, and Phillips
74,75.76
14) Copy of FDR's letter to Sperker and Vice
President end copies of Stimson's and Knox's
letters to FDR sant to Hull - 2/2/42
7d
2) Stimson, Knox, Jones, Smith, Speaker,
and Vice President sent copies of
correspondence
79,etc.
15) Bloom and HMJr discuss those who are to testify,
92
Regraded Unclassified
- 0 - (Continued)
Book Page
China (Continued)
Loan (Continued):
Conference of Treasury group and Soong - - 2/2/42
491
95
a) HMJr-Currie conversation
108
b) Bloom-HMJr conversation
113
c) Statement by HMJr on Joint Resolution -
draft 1
121
1) Copies sent to Stimson, Jones, Knox,
and Hull
135
d) Soong's memorandum on terms and conditions
131
Conference of Treasury group - 2/3/42
270
a) Stettinius-HMJr conversation
289
b) HMJr's testimony - draft 2.
293
c) Meeting with House Committee on Foreign Affairs -
resume
302
1) HMJr's reading copy
312
a) Papers which HMJr took with him
322
2) Resolution passed unanimously
367
a) Soong informed
371
3) Breckenridge Long statement
308
d) HMJr's appearance before Senate Committee on
Foreign Affairs - 2/5/42: See Book 493, page 273
1) Minutes of meeting: Book 493, page 293
e) FDR's message to Chiang Kai-shek announcing
passage of loan - 2/7/42: Book 493, page 278
f) HMJr's appearance before Sub-Committee of House
Appropriations February 9, 1942 - resumet
Book 494, page 1
1) HMJr's reading copy: Book 494, page 5
Universal Trading Corporation report sent to HMJr by
Lochhead - 2/2/42
148
Stabilisation Board: William H, Taylor and Wei Yin Lin
"detained by enemy action"; names deleted from those
authorized to operate accounts of Board - 2/3/42
408
Coordinator of Information
See Treasury Representatives Abroad
- D -
Dies List of Government Personnel
See Un-American Activities
Donovan, Colonel William J. (Coordinator of Information)
See Treasury Representatives Abroad
Douglas, Lewis W.
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds
- E -
Exchange Market
Resumes - 2/2-3/42
245,432
Regraded Unclassified
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Book Page
Federal Reserve Act
Existing prohibition against direct purchase by Federal
Reserve Banks of direct and guaranteed obligations of
United States: HMJr informe Committee that he approves
removal of restriction - 2/3/42
491
420
a) HMJr's conversation with Spingarn - 2/2/42
151
Federal Reserve System
See Financing, Government
Financing, Government
Eccles' memorandum on future program acknowledged by
Treasury - 2/2/42
173
Non-defense Economies:
See also Books 458, 473, and 485
Conference - 2/3/42
402-A
Conference - 2/6/42: See Book 493, page 98
Conference - 2/10/42: Book 495, page 85
Defense Savings Bonds:
"Buy & Bomber" campaign:
a) Hearst, William Randolph: Thanked by HMJr for
newspaper Aid in sale of bonds to "Buy 8. Bomber" -
2/2/42
203
b) Discussion of "Buy 8. Bomber" campaign at 9:30
meeting - 2/4/42: Book 492, page 5
c) Letters to Washington Post - 2/4/42:
Book 492, page 31
1) Meyer-HMJr conversation: Book 492,
pages 46, 74, 79, and 304
d) McCloy-HMJr conversation - 2/4/42:
Book 492, pages 39 and 43
e) Post explanation - 2/5/42: Book 492, page 264
Postmaster General thanked for assistance - 2/2/42.
206
Douglas, Lewis V.: Thanked by HMJr for assistance -
2/2/42
208
January sales report - 2/2/42
211
Comparative statement of sales during November,
December, and January
213
Unfilled orders, January 15 to date - 2/2/42
215
Navy program at which check for $1,700,000 is
presented to HMJr - 2/3/42
376,377,380
a) Radio talk by HMJr and Knox - 2/3/42
382
Defense Savings Stamps: Sales at moving picture
theatres recommended by HMJr - 2/3/42
387,390
Post Office sales unsatisfactory to HMJr - 2/3/42,
397
a) Graves' report - 2/6/42: Book 493, page 108
b) Mahan's report - 2/6/42: Book 493, page 110
Foreign Funds Control
General Aniline and Film Corporation:
Bullitt, William C.: Offers assistance to HMJr and
Foley - 2/1/42
1
Swope, Gerard: HMJr wants Swope to sit in on
conferences; hopes Treasury can work out line of
action very soon - memorandum to Foley - 2/3/42
415
France: Payments to diplomatic missions in Far East -
State Department agrees to terminating - 2/3/42
416
France
See Foreign Funds Control
Regraded Unclassified
- G -
Book Page
General Aniline and Film Corporation
See Foreign Funds Control
Germany
"Voice of the Chief" broadcasts summarized by Kamarck - -
2/2/42
491
254
a) Sent to Crown Princess Martha - 2/4/42:
See Book 492, page 250
Great Britain
Recent financial developments - Hoflich memorandum -
2/2/42
236
- H -
Hardy, Charles 0. (Brookings Institution)
See Appointments and Resignations
Hearst, William Randolph
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds
- M -
Military Reports
Reports from London transmitted by Campbell -
2/2-3/42
246,251,433
"Voice of the Chief" broadcasts (Germany) summarized
by Kamarck - 2/2/42
254
- N -
Navy Department
See Financing, Government: Defense Savings Bonds
- P -
Powel, Harford
See Appointments and Resignations
- R -
Revenue Revision
Disney film: Publicity for - 2/2/42
201,403
Roosevelt (Franklin D.) Library - Hyde Park, New York
Second annual report - - 2/2/42
171
- S -
Silver
Uruguay: Federal Reserve Bank of New York memorandum
concerning purchase - - 2/3/42
430
Regraded Unclassified
- S - (Continued)
Book Page
Speeches by HMJr
Defense Savings Bonds: Navy program at which check
for $1,700,000 1s presented to HMJr - 2/3/42
491
376,377,380
a) Radio talk by HMJr and Knox - 2/3/42
382
Stabilization Agreements
Resume' - Dietrich memorandum - 2/2/42
237
Statements by HMJr
Aid to China:
HMJr's appearance before House Committee on
Foreign Affairs
Draft 1 of testimony - 2/2/42
121
If 2 If
#
- 2/3/42
293
Reading copy - 2/3/42
312
a) Papers which HMJr took with him
322
HMJr's appearance before Senate Committee on
Foreign Affairs - 2/5/42: See Book 492, page 273
Swope, Gerard
See Foreign Funds Control: General Aniline and
Film Corporation
- T -
Treasury Representatives Abroad
Portugal, Spain, Switzerland, and Sweden suggested
by Donovan - Gaston's memorandum to HMJr -
2/3/42
410
a) Discussion at 9:30 meeting - 2/4/42:
Book 492, page 27
- U - -
Un-American Activities
Foley memorandum concerning Dies' investigation of
Government personnel - 2/2/42
161
Universal Trading Corporation
See China
Uruguay
See Silver
- V -
Viner, Jacob
HMJr again advises staff, including White, to
utilize services - 2/2/42
72
"Voice of the Chief"
See Germany
I
February 1, 1942
Mr. Foley
Copy
The Secretary
Bill Bullitt had lunch with us on Sunday, and after
telling UF of his experiences in the Near East, he got on
the question of General Aniline and Dye.
He fished around BE to whether I wanted him to stay,
and I said that definitely I hoped he would stay and help
us to olean it up. He said that Foley had asked him to do
the same thing, and he said that he thought the thing ought
to be done very rapidly because 0' Connell had told him the
case where American Woolene had called up and wanted to
place a large order with them, and O'Connell had not been
able to give Aniline Dye 8 clean bill of health eo they
haven't placed the order. If that went on, why rapidly the
company would disintegrate.
I told him I thought that nobody should get more than
150,000 salary, and that Hack might be made General Counsel,
Bullitt could stay as Chairman of the Board, and then we'd
get 8 first-class operating man to operate the company. I
thought that these enormous fees that they were paying were
e disgrace and that the whole thing would reflect on the
President. He agreed on that.
I told him that Gerard Swope was advising us 88 to
personnel; 60 MB the thing develope, I wieh Foley would
keep me posted and also keep Mr. Gerard Swope posted.
Regraded Unclassified
2
February 1, 1942
Sunday at five o'clock, Sir Frederick Phillips called
at the house at my request. He said he had 13. message for
me, and I said, "Go shead end give it to me," which he did,
and I would hear from the British Ambassador at Chungking.
On reading it, I was glad that again we were sufficiently
ahead of the parade and were ready.
I gave him a copy of the joint resolution, which he
wanted so that he could cable it to London. But I told him
that the "whereas" which had to do with the defense of China,
etc., he should leave that sentence out because it was
changed two or three times.
He asked me if B8 soon as I knew it was going to be
released, would I let him know through Harry White.
I said that when I get ready to leave the Hill, I will
phone Harry White so that he could let Sir Frederick Phillips
know. Phillips wants to get out a statement simultaneously
from London. White ought to let T. V. Soong know at the
same time.
I discussed with Phillips the fact that it looks as
though when the war is over they would sort of cancel the
loan. He said, "No," that they would expect to have it
repaid promptly. I said that I would try to get something
similar in our conditions although we had not discussed
conditions with T. V. Soons, but I expected to see him at
three o'clock on Monday.
Phillips asked me whether it was all right for them
to go ahead with their 30 million pounds. I said, "Yes,"
and that after all that was three timesas much 88 they of-
fered the Chinese before.
He said he hoped that I didn't mind Lord Helifax's
coming to see me with a question as to whom should bring to
the President's attention that the British wanted us to pay
them cash for the material they bought prior to March 11,
1941. I said that I didn't mind but I was sorry that Churchill
hadn't agreed to send it to the President. However, I said
that I could understand that and I could also understand that
Halifax didn't want to wear out his welcome with the Presi-
dent. I said that my shoulders were broad, and I would try
to carry it, but that it was much more difficult for me to
carry it directly with the President. To prove my point,
there is the copy of the memorandum which I sent to the
President, and I haven't heard from him yet. I then said
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3
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that I felt sure that if either Churchill or Halifax had
sent it it would have carried more weight. However, I said
I would do the best I can, and I will try to take it up with
Phillips on either Tuesday or Wednesday.
Regraded Unclassified
MEMORANDUM
In view of further representations !rom
His Majesty's Ambassador in Chungking, His Majesty's
Government feel that it is essential to send en
immediate reply to the Generalissimo. It is under-
stood th. t the question of assistance to China is under
the President's consideration.
His Majesty's Government now SUGGERT that
in addition to their supplying munitions on & lond-lesse,
basis a joint offer should be made of & combined loan
of $400 millions, of which, in view of the disparity of
financial resources, the british share would be $120 millions
or 630 millions. The latter sum would be made vailable
immediately but there would be an unpublished understand-
ing that it would be drawn upon only as required for
expenditure in the sterling area directly requ red for
the war; each itom of expenditure being agreed upon
between the two governments with the condition that
any amount that had not been drawn upon at the
conclusion of hosttlities would be repaid. The United
States part of the credit would no doubt be mace subject
to similar conditions.
His Majesty's Government LSK whether the
President would agree that we should at once inform
the Generalissimo that we have made this proposal
to the United tates Government.
Washington, D.C.,
February 1, 1942.
Regraded Unclassified
5
February 1, 1942
Mr. Graves, Mr. Kuhn, Kr. Schwarz
The Secretary
If the figures are in for January, I'd like to have
a carefully prepared statement to give out at my four
o'clock press conference of the results of January sales
of Defense Savings Bonds and Stamps.
Done- Per
Regraded Unclassified
6
C
0
P
Y
(CONFIDENTIAL)
PARAPHRASE
A strictly confidential telegram no. 24 of February 1,
1942 from the American Commissioner to India reads sub-
stantially a.c follows:
In response to your inquiry of January 30 regarding
air passage for Messrs. Lattimore and Fox, you are informed
that they departed by Clipper on January 28 from Karachi.
Copy:bj:2-3-42
RESTRICTED
0-2/2657-220: No. 618 M.I.D., W.D. 11:00 Avile. February 1, 1942.
SITUATION REPORT
I. Pacific Theater.
Philippines: Several strong enemy thrusts including & night
attack were repelled yesterday. Enemy losses were relatively large.
Corregidor's big guns suddenly concentrated on an enemy force assembling
launches at Ternate, on the south shore of Manila Bay. The surprise
was complete, and the Force was destroyed, Hawaii: No further reports
of hostile action. Malaya: The press reports that British withdrawal
to Singapore Island has been completed. and that British reinforcements
have arrived at Singapore. Burma: Dritish are reported to have with-
drawn west of the Salween River, evacuating Moulmein. The Japanese
carried out 3 air raids against Rangoon on January 31. Only a few
planes got through to drop leaflets on the city. Australasia: No 1m-
portant change reported. West Coast: No further reports.
II. Eastern Theater.
Ground: The Russians continue to press the offensive at
various points along the front. (No situation map will be issued this
date.)
Air: The Russians claim to have defeated a division of German
parachute troops that were flown into the Leningrad front from Crete.
III. Western Theater.
Aircraft of the H.A.P. carried out raids against objectives
in Occupied France yesterday.
IV. Middle Eastern Theater.
Ground: Press releases from British and Axis official
sources indicate sporadic fighting south and west of Maraua. À
sixty-mile advance to the east from Benghazi is claimed by the Axis.
Air: Malta is still under serial bombardment and both a/r
forces in Libya are active against ground forces, Aircraft of the
R.A.F. carried out successful raids against motor transports in the
Agadabia region.
RESTRICTED
Regraded Unclassified
8
February 2, 1942
Harold Graves
Secretary Morgenthau
Please talk to me as soon as possible about
Harford Powel of the Defense Savings Staff. I want
to discuss him with you.
Gravest Kuhu
disinssed with
Hajr this maning/13/42.
Regraded Unclassified
9
February 2, 1942
9:12 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello, Peter.
Peter
Odegard:
Hello.
HMJr:
How are you feeling?
0:
Fine, Mr. Secretary. How are you?
HMJr:
I'm fine. How are you?
01
oh, pretty well,
HMJr:
How's your cold?
0:
Oh, it's much better this morning.
HMJr:
This may seem like a very unimportant matter,
but I was - Graves and Kuhn are sitting here -
and I was asking them to change the title
of one Harford Powel from Director of In-
formation to Consultant, because that's what
I think he is, and he's 8. Consultant and he
1e not in charge, and I wondered if you Baw
any good reason why we shouldn't.
0:
No, I don't see any reason, because Harford
hasn't had any administrative direction over
Mahan and the others, BO far as I can gather.
HMJr:
Uh huh.
0:
But I had some ideas about that whole thing
that I think we probably ought to talk about
sometime.
HMJr:
I see.
0;
It seemed to me that the - that Mr. Houghteling
status probably ought to be re-defined, too.
HMJr:
Well, we - he's no longer Assistant to the
Secretary.
01
He isn't?
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10
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HMJr:
No. That wae done last week.
D:
Yeah. What is his title now?
HMJr:
Talks aside) What 1E his title, Harold?
His payroll title is "Consultant".
O:
Yeah. Well, that was what I was going to
suggest.
HMJr:
Well, that's what it ie.
o:
Yeah. Well, I should think the same relation
might be established for Harford.
HMJr:
Good. Well, the reason I called you about
it was because after all, you did bring him
in.
O:
Yeah.
HMJr:
I mean
0:
Well, I'm sure that Harford wouldn't be hurt
at all about that.
HMJr:
He wouldn't?
0:
I shouldn't think BO.
HMJr:
Well, I'm sure that Graves can handle it.
But it Just bothers me to have a man of his
kind getting the credit in history for
director of this organization.
01
Yeah.
HMJr:
Because he ien't entitled to it.
0:
No. Well, we really have no Director of
Information excepting Harold Gravee.
HMJr:
Except Harold Graves?
O:
Yeah.
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11
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HMJr:
Well, I wouldn't call Harold that. I think
he's above that.
0:
Oh, I wouldn't call him that, but I mean
actually.
HMJr:
Yeah. Well, we should have.
0:
Oh.
HMJr:
And I think that these days we could get one.
0:
I think we could, too.
HMJr:
I think we could get one these days.
0:
Yeah.
HMJr:
What?
0:
Yeah. I think certainly that a title of
consultant more nearly describes the work
that Harford has been doing.
HMJr:
Well, then it's fairly unanimous.
O:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And we'll let it go at that.
0:
(Laughs) Well, I - you never tell me how
other people think.
HMJr:
I don't?
0:
No. Until after I've told you what I think.
HMJr:
Well, you don't want me to try to influence
you.
0:
(Laughs) No.
HMJr:
What?
0:
No.
HMJr:
If I said to you, "Graves is absolutely opposed
to this," then - I don't want to color your
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thinking. Why I'm surprised at you.
O:
(Laughs)
HMJr:
As a matter of fact, he agreed and 80 did
Kuhn.
0:
Oh.
HMJr:
Before I called you.
0:
Yeah. Well, I would think that.
HMJr:
As I say, I didn't want to do anything.
0:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
Well, thank you.
0:
Well, thank you for calling.
HMJr:
Good-bye.
O:
Good-bye.
13
February 2, 1942
Dear Cordell:
Yesterday, at five o'clock, Sir Frederick
Phillips of the British Treasury, called on me and
gave me & memorandum, a copy of which you will find
enclosed herewith.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) I. Margesthaw, Jr.
Monorable Cordell hull,
Secretary of State.
Copy to Secretary Jones.
Regraded Unclassified
COPY
19
MEMORANDUM
In view of further representations from Ris injesty's
Ambassador in Chungking, his Majesty's Government feel that
it is essential to send an immediate reply to the Generalissimo.
It is understood that the question of assistance to China is
under the President's consideration.
His ajesty's Government now suggest that in addition
to their supplying munitions on a lend-lease basis e joint
offer should be made of 8. combined loan of $400 millions, of
which, in view of the disparity of financial resources, the
British share would be$120 millions or 6-30 millions. The
latter sum would be made available immediately but there would
be an unpublished understanding that it would be drawn upon
only as required for expenditure in the sterling area directly
required for the war; each item of expenditure being agreed
upon between the two governments with the condition that any
amount that had not been drawn upon at the conclusion of
hostilities would be repaid. The United States part of the
credit would no doubt be made subject to similar conditions.
his Majesty's Government ask whether the President
would agree that we should at once inform the Generalissimo
that we have made this proposal to the United States Government.
Regraded Unclassified
15
February 2, 1942
9:20 a.m.
AID TO CHINA
Present: Mr. Bell
Mr. Foley
Mr. White
Mr. Bernstein
Mr. Southard
Mr. Viner
Miss Chauncey
H.M.JR: I have got to go on the Hill this morning,
to Mr. Wallace's office, on this Chinese loan, and I want
Mr. Bell and Mr. White to go with me. I asked for a
copy of this resolution. Have you got one?
MR. FOLEY: Yes, the one with the greatest possible
importance or the way it was--
H.M.JR; No, the way--
MR. FOLEY: That is the way Jones wants it changed.
This is the way it was for the President.
H.M.JR: No, this way is all right.
MR. FOLEY: Then we will substitute these two.
H.M.JR: Yes. Have you had these photostated?
MR. FOLEY: The letter?
H.M.JR: Yes.
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MR. FOLEY: No.
MR. WHITE: I am not very presentable, Mr. Secretary.
H.M.JR: That is the matter with you.
19. WHITE: I have got a little boil on my nose.
MR. HELL: Where were you Saturday night?
R.H.JK: Just to bring you people up to date, Mr.
V. Soons was at my house at a quarter of seven, and
I informed hin what we had done in confidence, and then
I sent for Mr. Phillips, Sir Frederick Phillips. le
came to the House last night at five. Re had been
anxious to see me, and he said he had something for ne
very urgent, which is es follows: "In view of the further
representation from His Lajesty's Ambassador in Chungking,
His Majesty's Government feels it is essential to send
an immediate reply to the Generalissmo. It is understood
that the question of assistance to China is under the
President's consideration. His Majesty's Government now
suggests, in addition to their supplying munitions on 8.
Lend-Lease basis, a joint offer should be made of a
combined loan of four hundred millions, of which, in
view of the disparity of the financial resources, the
Pritish share would be a hundred and twenty millions, or
thirty million pounds. The latter sum would be unde
available immediately, but there would be an unpublished
understanding that it be drawn upon only ns required for
the expenditure in the sterling area directly required
for the war. Each item of expenditure being agreed upon
hetween the two Governments with the condition that any
amount that has not been drawn upon at the conclusion of
hostilities would be repaid.
"The United States part of the credit would no doubt
be made subject to similar conditions. His Vajesty's
Government asked whether the President would agree that
we should at once inform the Generalissmo that we have
made this proposal to the United States Government."
Well, I told him We were going up on the Hill. I
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said as soon as I had left the Hill, we would phone
Phillips so he could phone London, because they want
to get out a statement at the same time we do here, you
see.
I think at the same time we ought to let Soong know,
you see, but the English want to get out 8. statement from
London, 80 whatever time - I think we ought to tell them
not to release it for three hours up there so as to give
them a chance to get through to London, you see. Be-
cause they have got a clause in here which is a good
one. That is--
MR. WHITE: Give the money back when the war is
over, and they have to spend it during the war, and they
can't spend it during the war.
H.M.JR: I think it is a good clause.
MR. WHITE: I don't. I think it is very niggardly.
If they are going to make any gesture at all, I think
there is no value in that.
MR. VINER: In any case, the limitations ought
to go into the agreement with the Chinese and the
authorization ought to be unlimited.
MR. WHITE: That is right.
Has your answer already been given to Phillips?
H.M.JR: Oh, I told Phillips we would go ahead on
our basis according to what he told us originally, and
they could go ahead on theirs.
MR. WHITE: That was the answer?
H.M.JR: That wes the answer.
MR. FOLEY: You see, the legislation provides--
H.M.JR: I - - excuse me - I said, "You told us you
were going to give ten million pounds, and we could go
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ahead on ours. Well, we have gone ahead. We are going
to give them the five hundred million. You can go ahead
on yours and give them thirty million if you want to."
He said, "Is that all right for us? Do you recognize
that we can't give as much as you do?" And I said, "Yes,
we recognize it."
MR. WHITE: He called up & couple of times, and I
kept him informed. I said on Saturday that I thought
on Monday there would be some definite progress made,
and we would inform him at once, so he has been informed
right along as much as we could.
H.M.JR: Well, I gave him a copy of the resolution
last night, telling him in cabling to leave out that
"whereas," what we were doing for - to preserve China,
because that was being changed.
Now, what I want in the few minutes that are left
is - either White or Southard, in case they ask me this
morning, "On what basis are you going to make this loan?"
have either of you men got any suggestions?
MR. WHITE: We have got a draft of a written state-
ment.
H.M.JR: Well, I can't read that. Supposing they
say, "Well, on what basis are you going to lend this
money?"
MR. WHITE: I should be inclined to stick very
closely to the "whereases," which indicate that they have
been putting up a splendid fight for four years and
there has been a tremendously heavy financial burden
and it has the - the impact upon their economy has been
naturally progressively severe and until their economic
structure now is very weak, and that this loan should go
a long way toward helping them to--
H.M.JR: Harry, I haven't got the time for the
"whereases." On what basis are we going to lend it?
Are we going to buy yuan, or how the hell are we going
to do it? I haven't got the basis for the spinach.
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MR. WHITE: I don't know as we have given any
thought to it. My own horseback opinion would be that
those are the things that would be worked out later.
H.M.JR: "Well, now, Mr. Morgenthau, you can't
come up here and ask us for five hundred million dollars
unless you have got ideas. How are you going to lend it
to them?"
MR. WHITE: Well, they may want to draw upon some
of it in an effort to support their monetary system.
H.M.JR: "Well, you have got fifty million dollars
in the Stabilization Fund for that."
MR. WHITE: Well, that has rather more restricted
uses. That applies much more to their exchange opera-
tions. This here could be used for strengthening their
internal economy.
H.M.JR: How?
MR. BELL: What committee is this?
H.M.JR: This is Wallace, the Speaker, McNary, and
Joe Martin.
MR. BELL: The Republicans, isn't it?
MR. VINER: You might use it as a reserve.
MR. BELL: Do you care to come right out and say,
"Well, gentlemen, it is nothing but a political loan"?
H.M.JR: Well, I am going to say it.
MR. BELL: It is the big answer.
H.M.JR: I am going to say, "It is a political and
military loan.'
MR. WHITE: It is a loan being made for political
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and military purposes, but I am wondering as to whether
he doesn't have to have some answer to the question of
how they possibly can use it.
H.M.JR: Have you got it?
MR. VINER: Well, they can use it as a reserve
held over here against their own bond issues or against
their own currency. They can use it in small amounts
over a time in gold and silver or gold or silver, or
even American money.
H.M.JR: How, Jake?
MR. VINER: By taking it into China and selling
the American currency for the Chinese and mopping up
Chinese currency.
H.M.JR: Does that mean we are going to buy
yuan?
MR. VINER: No, no, we wouldn't buy it. They
would buy the yuan with your dollars. You see, they
would buy the yuan away from the Chinese public with
your dollars.
H.M.JR: Well, the President said - I haven't
got on this thing deeply, and I gather no one else
has here either, that against the dollars we loan
them we should have yuan, 30 at least we would have
something.
MR. WHITE: Mr. Secretary, what we have got is &
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promise for dollars. That yuan isn't going to be
worth very much, and if we take the yuan we may not
have the - we won't have as good a credit as we may
have if they owe us dollars. The reason why I would
like to see you avoid, in so far as possible, stat-
ing anything but that it is a political and economic
loan is because we can't do anything--
H.M.JR: Harry, don't argue with me about it. I
have got to have something if they press me.
MR. VINER: That is a drawing credit here. You
will establish 8. drawing credit - the ways in which
they can make use of it, they still have to work out
with you.
H.M.JR: But the only thing we are going to have
against it is their I.O.U.?
MR. VINER: Not even that, possibly.
MR. WHITE: In some cases you may have yuan.
In some cases you will have the I.O.U.
MR. VINER: And in some cases you will have nothing.
MR. WHITE: You may have nothing. It depends on
what the terms and conditions are that you haven't
worked out yet, because they are in the midst--
MR. VINER: You can tell them up there that you
don't like it any better than they do, but we are in
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8 war, and things have to be done.
H.M.JR: Well, the answer is nobody has thought
this thing through yet.
MR. WHITE: Oh, I wouldn't say that, Mr. Secretary.
I have thought it through to the extent where I say
nothing can be done economically and financially.
H.M.JR: Are you just going to let him call up and
say, "I want a hundred million dollars," and have it
transferred to the Chase?
MR. WHITE: Oh, no, I think we would want to set
such conditions as the best we could get under the lend
circumstances.
MR. VINER: Each time, presumably, he would tell
us how he is going to use the next installment, and
then we would turn it over to him as & credit with the
Federal Reserve Banks, or in some other way.
MR. SOUTHARD: You might buy yuan against some of
it.
MR. VINER: You might.
MR. SOUTHARD: In other cases you will take their
note.
MR. WHITE: They may not call on most of it until
after the war, in which case there would be all kinds of
conditions you could set on it.
MR. FOLEY: The bill, Mr. Secretary, is very
flexible, and it states, "at such time or times, and
upon such terms or conditions" as you prescribe, and
you get the best terms you can.
MR. VINER: That is the thing to tell them.
MR. FOLEY: You are not going to give it to them
all at once, and each time you make an advance to them
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you get the best terms you can in the light of the
circumstances.
H.M.JR: Well, have we crossed that bridge, we are
not going to give it to them all at once?
MR. WHITE: No, I don't think we have, but I
think in our own minds --
MR. VINER: But you can say you will make the best
terms you can.
MR. FOLEY: You don't have to give it to them all
at once.
H.M.JR: After listening to you fellows, I haven't
got any help, no help at all.
MR. BERNSTEIN: Can I suggest & possible approach,
that since this is a military and political loan,
it will have its greatest beneficial effect, the fewer
conditions that you apply? You know, however, that they
probably can't use the whole five hundred million any one
time, and you are going to keep watching it to see that
they don't go out of bounds.
MR. VINER: But don't make any pledges as to how
you are going to use it.
H.M.JR: That is the point, any pledge I make this
morning, I have got to keep.
MR. VINER: But don't make any pledges. Say it is
8 political loan, and you musn't have your hands tied.
If they ask you to give them a pledge, say you would have
to take it up with the President, because it might nullify
the whole purpose of the loan.
MR. WHITE: You are making it for military and po-
litical purposes.
H.M.JR: Let's not prolong the agony. You are not
ready yet to advise me how the thing should be written
out.
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MR. WHITE: Definitely not.
H.M.JR: Well, that is --
MR. VINER: You can't, because you have to talk
to them and give them the - as little as possible.
H.M.JR: Then let's say no one here has gone that
far.
MR. SOUTHARD: You could make a list of all the
possibilities and bases, but they might interpret
those as being - you might make 8. list of all the
possible technical means by which dollars could be
made available, but they might interpret that on the
Hill as being your promise of the particular ways in
which it would be done. It is yuan and silver and gold.
H.M.JR: You fellows had better get busy this
morning and work on it.
MR. VINER: There is nothing more to be done.
H.M.JR: You had better, while I am up on the Hill,
get busy and have something for me at three o'clock, when
T.V. Soong comes in here. He is coming in at three
o'clock.
MR. WHITE: We could do that anyway --
MR. VINER: Can't --
MR. WHITE: The thing to do is ask what terms they
want.
MR. VINER: Mr. Secretary, if we give them 8. range
of possibilities, he will pick out the easiest and the
best.
H.M.JR: I am going to ask him this time.
MR. WHITE: They will be stuck worse than we will
85 to what to use the money for.
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H.M.JR: I made the mistake before of making sug-
gestions. Now I will let him make one. Listen, there
is one thing that is bothering me. I have got all
these letters from the President to Wallace and the
Speaker, and we have got a resolution, and I haven't
sent a damn thing to the Director of the Budget. Don't
you think it would be a nice thing to call him up and
say I am going up on the Hill 80 he doesn't read about
it in the paper?
MR. BELL: He ought to know about it. When is it
coming out in the press?
H.M.JR: Maybe at noon.
MR. VINER: One of these letters says you are
going to inform the Bureau of the Budget. The letter
up to the Hill says that, doesn't it? It says that
there wasn't --
H.M.JR: I didn't read it.
MR. BELL: I think he ought to be told. This,
I take it, is just an informal meeting this morning.
H.M.JR: To get a clearance.
MR. BELL: With this group. Now, when the bill
is introduced, where do you go? Do you have to go to
some committee and defend it?
H.M.Jk: I think it is Appropriations.
MR. BELL: Then it is legislative also.
H.M.JR: I don't know.
MR. FOLEY: Well, it is legislative, Dan, but the
appropriation is made in the legislation, so I should
think --
MR..BELL: You have to have 8. rule, then.
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MR. FOLEY: No, it is a special bill, not a general
bill.
MR. BELL: But you have to have a rule in the House.
MR. FOLEY: Well, we can get a rule.
H.M.JR: Have you got your overcoat in here, Harry?
You had better get it.
MR. BELL: Then you would have to have these pur-
poses that you are talking about when you go before that
committee. I think you have got to give more than just
political.
H.M.JR: But not necessarily this morning.
MR. BELL: Not today, no.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Mr. Blandford, of the Bureau of the Budget, as follows:)
27
February 2, 1942
9:38 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
John B.
Blanford,
Jr:
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
How are you?
B:
Fine, thanks.
HMJr:
Mr. Blanford, I gather the Director of the
Budget ie out.
B:
Juet for the moment.
HMJr:
Well, if you could give him this message.
B:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Mr. Hull and I brought up at Cabinet the question
of & loan to China.
B:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Based on military and political necessities.
B:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And we recommended five hundred million dollars.
B:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And then we met with the President around noon -
Mr. Jones and I - because Mr. Hull 1s sick
B:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
and the President has signed letters to the
Vice-President and to the Speaker recommending
this. Hello.
B:
Yeah. Vice-President and the Spesker.
HMJr:
Yeah. We're going to - we have letters. Now,
we're going up on the Hill this morning to meet
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with the Vice-President and the Speaker, and
also the two minority leaders, Mr. Jones and I
and the people from my office.
B:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And with the hope that they'll release the
President's letter, because both Mr. Hull and
Mr. Stimson - from political and military angles -
are very, very anxious that it get out at once.
B:
Yeah. That'll require legislation, won't it?
HMJr:
Yes.
B:
We've had such a proposal knocking around here
in Lend-Lease language, too, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Yes. Well, the President - I have a signed letter
from the President, you see. I'm having it photo-
stated.
B:
Yeah.
HMJr:
And after we come down from the Hill, Mr. Bell
will send you over everything that we've got.
B:
Fine.
HMJr:
And I'd appreciate your cooperation, but this has
been a sort of a shotgun affair.
B:
Very good.
HMJr:
So we haven't had time to do the normal thing.
B:
All right.
HMJr:
But it happened over the week-end, and I wish you'd
explain it to Mr. Smith.
B:
I'll do it.
HMJr:
And when we come down from the Hill, Mr. Bell will
give you everything that I've got.
B:
Good. Thank you.
HMJr:
Thank you.
B:
All right, sir.
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H.M.JR: Now, you (Miss Chauncey) write a letter
to the Secretary of State. "Dear Cordell: Yesterday
at five o'clock Sir Frederick Phillips of the British
Embassy called on me and gave me the following" - "gave
me a memorandum, a copy of which you will find enclosed
herewith." And when I come back, I will sign it.
MR. WHITE: Don't you want to tell him what you
answered to him?
H.M.JR: No, I haven't got time.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Mr. Jesse Jones, as follows:)
Pe
30
February 2, 1942
9:40 a.m.
Jesse
Jones:
Yes.
HMJr:
Yes, Jesse.
J:
Have you got the Hull letter? To the President?
HMJr:
The Hull letter?
J:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Wait a minute. (Talks aside) Have we got the
Hull letter?
No. We were counting on you for that.
J:
Well, I was just trying to get it located. I
talked to the Secretary last night. He signed
it and sent it down to the President, so I got
hold of Rudolph trying to get him to find it.
HMJr:
No, I've got Knox' and Stimson's.
J:
Okay.
HMJr:
And the President's.
J:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Hull was your baby.
J:
Yeah. Well, he's signed, but I haven't located
the letter yet.
HMJr:
I see.
J:
I'll meet you at ten o'clock.
HMJr:
Attaboy.
J:
All right.
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H.M.JR: He hasn't got Hull's letter. Hull sent
it to the White House, but we did it differently.
MR. FOLEY: You don't need Hull's letter this
morning, do you?
MR. WHITE: Oh, yes.
H.M.JR: No, Jones said, and I think he is right,
that those letters should be saved for the committee.
MR. FOLEY: That is right.
H.M.JR: And just the President's letters --
MR. FOLEY: That is enough, and the bill.
H.M.JR: And the resolution to be released.
MR. WHITE: No, but you intend to show it to them,
don't you?
MR. FOLEY: When you go before the committee.
MR. VINER: You can say that you have the letters.
H.M.JR: They sat up all night drafting those
letters. Now, where are my - the copies of those
things?
MR. BELL: Stephens is still out. I take it he
is staying down there with them.
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the President of the United
States to render financial aid to China,
and for other purposes.
"th.
WHEREAS China has for more than four years valiantly
resisted the forces of Japanese aggression; and
WHEREAS financial and economic aid to China will
increase her ability to oppose the forces of aggression; and
WHEREAS the defense of China is vital to the defense
of the United States: Therefore be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States in Congress assembled, That the
Secretary of the Treasury with the approval of the President
is hereby authorized, on behalf of the United States, to loan
or extend credit or give other financial aid to China in an
amount not to exceed in the aggregate $500,000,000 at such
time or times and upon such terms and conditions as the
Secretary of the Treasury with the approval of the President
shall deem in the interest of the United States.
Sec. 2. The authority herein granted shall be in
addition to any other authority provided by law.
Sec. 3. There is hereby appropriated out of any money
in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such sum or sums
not to exceed $500,000,000 as may be necessary to carry out
the provisions of this Joint Resolution.
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
wy dear Mr. Speaker:
Responsible officials both of this Govern-
ment and of the Government of China, have brought
to my attention the existence of urgent need for
the immediate extension to China of economic
and financial assistance, going beyond in amount
and different in form from such aid 8.8 Congress
has already authorized. I believe that such ad-
ditional assistance would serve to strengthen
China's position as regards both her internal
sconomy and her capacity in general to function
with great military effectiveness in our common
effort.
I urge, therefore, the passage by Congress of
appropriate legislation to this effect and attach
hereto a suggested draft of a joint resolution which
would accomplish this purpose.
Sincerely yours,
final Minawel
The Honorable,
The Speaker of the House of Representatives.
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
My dear Mr. Vice President:
Responsible officials both of this Govern-
ment and of the Government of China, have brought
to my attention the existence of urgent need for
the immediate extension to China of economic
and financial assistance, going beyond in amount
and different in form from such aid as Congress
has already authorized. I believe that such ad-
ditional assistance would serve to strengthen
China's position as regards both her internal
economy and her capacity in general to function
with great military effectiveness in our common
effort.
I urge, therefore, the passage by Congress of
appropriate legislation to this effect and attach
hereto a suggested draft of a joint resolution which
would accomplish this purpose.
Sincerely yours,
Jusesak
The Honorable,
The Vice President of the United States.
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JOINT RESOLUTION
35
To authorize the President of the
United States to render financial
ald to China, and for other urposes.
MEREAS China has for more than four years valiantly
resisted the forces of Japanese aggression; and
WHEREAS financial and economic aid to China will increase
her ability to oppose the forces of aggression; and
WHEREAS the defense of China is of the greatest possible
importance: Therefore be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States in Congress assembled, That the Secretary
of the Treasury with the approval of the President is hereby
authorized, on behalf of the United States, to loan or extend
credit or give other financial aid to China in an amount not
to exceed in the aggregate $500,000,000 at such time or
times and upon such terms and conditions as the Secretary of
the Treasury with the approval of the President shall deem
in the interest of the United States.
Sec. 2. The authority herein granted shall be in
addition to any other authority provided by law.
Sec. 3. There is hereby appropriated out of any money
in the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such sum or sums
not to exceed $500,000,000 as may be necessary to carry out
the provisions of this Joint Resolution.
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36
WAR DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
January 31st, 1942.
My dear Mr. President:
The confidential information which has been
coming to me during the past few weeks indicates that
the difficult economic and financial situation within
China is impairing her military effort.
Our information indicates further that sub-
stantial financial aid must be given to China quickly
If we are to have assurance that recent and prospective
military developments will not too seriously weaken the
morale of the Chinese people.
Any substantial financial help that can be
given to China at this time can not but help strengthen
her striking power.
I therefore urge for your consideration that
the financial assistance which I am informed the
Generalissimo is requesting be granted expeditiously.
Faithfully,
Hurry < Stuson
The President,
The White House.
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THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
My dear Mr. President:
I refer to the urgent request which this
Government has received from Generalissimo Chiang
Kai-shek to help him, by financial assistance, to
maintain more effectively the morale of the
Chinese people. Recent military developments in
the Pacific and difficult economic and financial
conditions in China have made necessary remedial
action of a substantial character.
The military operations which the armies of
China under the Generalissimo are carrying on and
are planning to carry on are of extreme importance
to us. It would be very unfortunate if we were to
overlook any possibility of checking the impair-
ment of China's morale resulting from the growing
internal difficulties in China. I am convinced
that the financial assistance which the General-
issimo has requested would make an effective con-
tribution to the maintenance of China's morale and
military strength.
I strongly recommend, therefore, that we should
grant the Genoralisaimo's request without delay.
Faithfully,
Jeankstnor
The President,
The White House.
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DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
Dear Mr. President:
I refer to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek's request
for an immediate credit to China of $500,000,000 to
assist him in China's prosecution of the war.
China is now in her fifth year of war against
aggression and has had to draw very heavily upon her
own resources. Certain loans have been made to China
through the Federal Loan Agency, mostly in connection
with the purchase of strategic materials. These loans
have been used to buy supplies in this country, but
China now needs cash to be used within, or from within,
its own borders, and I strongly recommend that you ask
Congress to authorize loans, or credits, or both, to
China up to $500,000,000. The brilliant resistance to
appression which the Chinese have made and are making,
and their contribution to the common cause, deserve the
fullest support we can Cive.
Sincerely yours,
The President,
The White House.
Correshiel
39
February 2, 1942
10:55 a.m.
AID TO CHINA
Present: Mr. White
Mr. Foley
Mr. Bell
Miss Chauncey
H.M.JR: Sit down, gentlemen.
I will call T.V. Soong and the Russian Ambassador.
(Miss Chauncey entered the conference.)
MR. BELL: How about Phillips?
H.M.JR: I called him from the Hill.
(The Secretary held 8 telephone conversation with
T.V. Soong, as follows:)
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40
February 2, 1942
10:48 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Dr. Soong.
HMJr:
Hello.
T. V.
Soong:
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Hello, Dr. Soong. I thought you'd like to know
that at twelve o'clock the Speaker of the House
18 going to release this request from the President
to the newspapers for five hundred million dollars.
S:
Yeah. Good. Good.
HMJr:
So that's that.
8:
Yeah.
HMJr:
But it will not be released until twelve o'clock.
Si
Very good. When would you want me to come, three
o'clock?
HMJr:
Three o'clock.
S:
Very good.
HMJr:
Thank you,
6:
Thank you very much for calling me.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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H.M.JR: Now, if you (Miss Chauncey) will write a
letter to Dr. Soong, and one to the Russian Ambassador,
and one to Phillips. It ought to be done fairly
promptly in each case.
"Gentlemen: I am enclosing herewith for your
confidential information a copy of the resolution
which will be introduced at twelve o'olock by the
Speaker of the House."
MR. WHITE: The form may change. They haven't
definitely decided on the form.
H.M.JR: Well, they have asked for a copy.
MR. BELL: "A copy of the resolution covering the loan
to China."
H.M.JR: How does it read?
MISS CHAUNCEY: "I am enclosing herewith for your
confidential information 8 copy of a resolution covering
a loan to China which will be introduced at twelve o'clock"
:
MR. FOLEY: "In substantially this form."
MISS CHAUNCEY: "Which will be introduced in sub-
stantially this form at twelve o'clock today by the
Speaker of the House."
H.M.JR: "Will be introduced by the Speaker"?
MR. FOLEY: No, he will have whoever is chairman of
the committee that they select do it. It will probably
be introduced by Sol Ploom.
H.M.JR: Well, "will be introduced" --
MR. FOLEY: "Laid before the House today by the
Speaker in substantially this form."
H.V.JR: That is right. How have you got it there?
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MISS CHAUNCEY: "I am enclosing herewith for your
confidential information & copy of a resolution which will
be laid before the House today in substantially this
form" --
MR. FOLEY: "By the Speaker."
MR. WHITE: You left out a phrase there.
MISS CHAUNCEY: "Covering loan to China"?
MR. WHITE: That is right.
H.M.JR: Now how have you got it?
MISS CHAUNCEY: "I am enclosing herewith foreyour oon-
fidential information 8 copy of 8 resolution covering
a loan to China, which will be laid before the House
today in substantially this form by the Speaker."
H.M.JR: O.K., get it under way 50 it will get to
them before twelve.
MR. FOLEY: "Laid before the House by the Speaker
at noon today in substantially this form.
H.M.JR: What did you say, Ed? You keep changing
it every two minutes.
MR. FOLEY: She had the Speaker in the wrong place,
Mr. Secretary.
H.M.JR: I mean, you fellows - if you are going to
get it there at twelve o'clock, you have got to do
these things. I mean, I can't work this way.
MR. FOLEY: All right.
H.M.JR: I mean, if you are going to change it,
we might as well not send it. I mean, I am under - I
worked right straight through Saturday and Sunday.
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MR. WHITE: Has Hull been notified?
(Miss Chauncey left the conference.)
H.M.JR: Let the great Jesse do that. I am not
going to be worried about it. Would you, Dan?
MR. BELL: Well --
MR. WHITE: Not necessarily. It is your ball from
now on.
MR. BELL: You are sort of carrying the ball.
Do you want me to do it?
H.M.JR: No, no. You mean Hull?
MR. BELL: You are sort of going to carry the ball.
Jesse might think he was butting in.
MR. WHITE: The way the bill is drafted, it is
really your ball.
H.M.JR: Well, I can do that.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Ambassador Litvinof, as follows:)
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MR. WHITE: Has Hull been notified?
(Miss Chauncey left the conference.)
H.M.JR: Let the great Jesse do that. I am not
going to be worried about it. Would you, Dan?
MR. BELL: Well --
MR. WHITE: Not necessarily. It is your ball from
now on.
MR. BELL: You are sort of carrying the ball.
Do you want me to do it?
H.M.JR: No, no. You mean Hull?
MR. BELL: You are sort of going to carry the ball.
Jesse might think he was butting in.
MR. WHITE: The way the bill is drafted, it is
really your ball.
H.M.JR: Well, I can do that.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Ambassador Litvinof, as follows:)
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February 2, 1942
10:58 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Go ahead.
HMJr:
Hello.
Ambassador
Litvinov:
Yes.
HMJr:
Mr. Ambassador.
L:
How are you, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
That's right.
L:
Good morning.
HMJr:
Good morning.
L:
I thought you'd like to know this in confidence,
that at twelve o'clock we're having introduced
in the House of Congress, a request for a loan
to China for five hundred million dollars.
L:
I have had no reply to my cable.
HMJr:
What's that?
L:
I've had no reply to my cable.
HMJr:
You have not?
L:
None as yet
HMJr:
Well
L:
It was embarrassing.
HMJr:
I see. Well, we've decided to go ahead with
it.
L:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
And I'm sending you by hand a copy of the resolution.
L:
Yes. Thank you very much, Mr. Secretary.
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HMJr:
But we're not - it'll not be given out to the
newspapers until twelve o'clock.
L:
Uh huh. That's half of what they asked for.
HMJr:
No, that's all they asked us for.
L:
Why I thought they asked you for a billion
dollars.
HMJr:
Yes. Half from us, and half from the English.
L:
Oh, I see.
HMJr:
The English will make their own announcement from
London.
L:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
They're going to do something also.
L:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
Yes.
L:
Thank you very much.
HMJr:
You're welcome.
L:
I will give you a copy of the reply from my
government when I receive it.
HMJr:
Well, if you get it, I'd like to see it.
L:
Yes.
HMJr:
If you get a reply, I'd like to see it.
L:
All right.
HMJr:
Thank you.
L:
Thank you, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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(Mrs. McHugh entered the conference.)
H.M.JR: You (Mrs. McHugh) write a letter to Mr.
Hull and Jesse Jones --
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Mr. Cordell Hull, as follows:)
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February 2, 1942
11:00 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Secretary
Hull:
Hello, Henry.
HMJr:
Cordell, has Jesse called you to let you know
what happened on the Hill?
H:
No.
HMJr:
Well, we've just come back, and they received
us very well and the Speaker's arranging to
have the resolution introduced at noon today.
H:
Oh, that's fine.
HMJr:
And he doesn't think he's going to have any
trouble.
H:
He oughtn't to.
HMJr:
Charlie McNary said he was for it. Joe Martin
wasn't there. They had somebody elee.....
H:
Who?
HMJr:
A man by the name of Mischner or Mishner.
H:
Oh, Michener of Michigan.
HMJr:
And he kept talking all the time about something
that Dean Acheson had said about scrap iron, or -
I don't know. I couldn't make head or tail out
of it.
H:
Well, he's a little, narrow, city politician,
you know.
HMJr:
Well, he talked that way.
H:
Yeah.
HMJr:
But he said he'd go along, but he kept talking
were we going to do for China what we've done
for Japan. I couldn't make head or tail of it.
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H:
Oh, a little cheap political stuff. You see,
here's something, Henry, that bears a little
fruit. Back all last spring when I was being
urged to - over there - to freeze everything
in Japan.....
HMJr:
Yeah.
H:
she had twice the fighting naval strength
in the Pacific that we had under our plan to
take half of it out.....
HMJr:
Yeah.
H:
.....
to help Britain, and we had information -
very reliable - in January - that Hitler would
attack Russia in June.
HMJr:
Yeah.
H:
And I told the Russians that and got nothing but
a cussing out.
HMJr:
I see.
H:
And now if we had gone in there with what in
those circumstances would have been an aggravated
act of war
HMJr:
Yeah.
H:
with Japan's finger on the trigger of her
navy and Germany ordering her to go forward and
all her war leaders urging her to go forward,
why we could awful easily have gotten hooked
there in her fight.....
HMJr:
Yeah.
H:
last spring.
HMJr:
Yes.
H:
That would have meant that Hitler wouldn't have
even remotely thought about attacking Russia in
the summer.
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HMJr:
I see.
H:
Now that was - nobody knows that, but that's a
tremendous factor in all those difficult evolutions
that we had to - that the President and I had to
go through with.....
HMJr:
I 800.
H:
in handling that thing. And that 1s why we're
BO far above these smarter things, you know, that
of course, we can't go out and make it very public
yet.
HMJr:
Yes.
H:
But I just - in a private meeting, you could
let the fellows see the breadth of the matter.
HMJr:
Well, I think that that's something that you could
do much better than I can, because they'll un-
doubtedly expect you to testify.
H:
Yeah.
HMJr:
You did a swell job on that other - the time we
went up on the fifty million dollars for China.
H:
Well, that's no sign of what a fellow would do
later, but
HMJr:
Well, it'll
H:
Anyhow, I'm trying to get rid of the grippe and
cold and 8. lot of other things at the same time,
and as soon as I can function why I'll be delighted
to go anywhere.
HMJr:
Well, I think it would be most important for them
to hear from you, because they'll expect it. Are
you home now?
H:
No, I ran down here this morning.
HMJr:
Well, take care of yourself. The thing is going along...
H:
But I'm going home this afternoon.
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HMJr:
Yeah. Well, take care of yourself.
H:
Anyhow, I'll keep in touch with you.
HMJr:
And I'll do the same.
H:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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H.M.JR: It is really pitiful.
MR. WHITE: I couldn't understand him.
H.M.JR. You couldn't hear him?
MR. WHITE: I heard him, but I - it didn't make
continuity.
MR. FOLEY: He was trying to make some justifica-
tion for what they had done to Japan, why they sent
oil and scrap.
H.M.JR: What he was trying to say was that if we
had tightened up on Japan, then Germany would never
have attacked Russia.
MR. FOLEY: That is it.
H.M.JR: That is a new one.
MR. WHITE: He is still in the same frame of mind,
justifying his --
MR. FOLEY: Justifying everything he did.
MR. WHITE: The thing that is uppermost --
H.M.JR: When I said scrap iron, he said - at least
that is what I gathered.
MR. FOLEY: That is right.
H.M.JR: That is what he was trying to do. If he
had tightened up then Japan would have attacked us and
Germany never would have attacked Russia.
MR. WHITE: It is a fairy story, to me.
H.M.JR: What?
MR. WHITE: It sounds like a fairy story to me.
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H.M.JR: It is a new one to me. This is a letter
to Mr. Hull, Mr. Stimson, Mr. Knox, and Mr. Jones. In
each case, "I am enclosing herewith" - well, to Mr. Hull
it will be, "I am enclosing herewith a photostat of
Mr. Stimson's and Mr. Knox's letter to the President
for your records," you see, and then to Stimson you
can give him Hull's and Knox's letter, and to Knox
you will give him Stimson's and Hull's letter, and to
Jesse Jones, you give all three.
MR. BELL: Have they got the President's letter?
MR. WHITE: Stimson returned it. We will want
to enclose it. I don't think he has a copy.
H.M.JR: Then why not give them in each case a
copy of the President's letter? What?
MR. WHITE: And doesn't the President have to have
the original? They are to him.
H.M.JR: We will see about the President. We
will take care of him later on. We will hang on to
those for the time being. And I think I would send a
complete set to the Director of the Budget, and also
the President's letter to the Vice-President on this
Chinese matter, you see.
MR. WHITE: Is it necessary to mention in any of
the letters the confidential nature of the letters,
other than the President's letter?
H.M.JR: No. Now, that supplies the Director
of the Budget. Anybody else around town? Do you think
we ought to send a set over to Steve Early?
MR. BELL: Well, I don't know. You are not going
to ask him to comment on it for the present?
H.M.JR: No. I think maybe we had better not.
MR. WHITE: He might release them. Has he got the
President's letter and a copy of the resolution, if you
expect him to release something?
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H.M.JR: Oh, he isn't going to release anything,
Harry. I just wanted to tell him what is going to
happen so he doesn't say, "Well, why don't somebody
tell me about this?"
MR. FOLEY: I think it is enough just to tell him.
H.M.JR: Now --
MR. BELL: I think I would say in the letter to the
Director of the Budget, "The letter from the Secretaries
of War and Navy are of course confidential."
MR. WHITE: And State.
MR. BELL: Was that true? I didn't see the Sec-
retary of State's letter.
MR. WHITE: I didn't either, but if it isn't that
kind of a letter --
H.M.JR: Why not say to each one in turn, "Of
course these letters are confidential?" What harm
can it do.
MR. BELL: That certainly would be better protection.
H.M.JR: Why not say, "I am sending you these for
your confidential information"?
MR. BELL: Yes, that is right.
H.M.JR: I want to get rid of all of this stuff.
These are various drafts. Here is one for you, Harry.
(The Secretary held 8. telephone conversation with
Mr. Stephen Early as follows:)
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February 2, 1942
11:05 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Early has a newspaper man with him, and
he'd like to wait until he leaves.
HMJr:
Well, tell him not too long.
Operator: All right.
HMJr:
Not too long.
Operator:
All right, I'll tell him.
Do
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February 2, 1942
11:09 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Operator:
Mr. Early.
HMJr:
Hello.
Stephen J.
Early:
Yes, Henry. How are you?
HMJr:
Fine. How are you?
E:
All right, sir.
HMJr:
On the chance that you may not know what I'm
going to tell you, I thought I'd better call
you up; and if you do know, why just tell me
BO.
E:
Yes.
HMJr:
Saturday noon the President - Jones and I went
over to see the President because Hull was sick.
E:
Yes, I know of that meeting.
HMJr:
And the President signed letters to the Vice-
President and the Speaker asking for five hundred
million dollars for China.
E:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
Now, Jesse and I and my boys went up, and we
had B. meeting there at which Barkley was present
and Charlie McNary
E:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
and somebody pinch-hitting for Joe Martin.
E:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
A fellow from Michigan, Michener.
E:
Yes. That's right.
HMJr:
And they all agreed that they'd go ahead, and
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the Speaker's having it introduced at noon.
E:
Uh huh.
HMJr:
And he's going to introduce - release at that
time the President's letter, to him.
E:
Good.
HMJr:
See?
E:
Good.
HMJr:
Now, is that all right?
E:
Yes, perfect. And thanks a lot for telling me.
HMJr:
Anything - any loopholes there?
E:
No, it's quite all right. That's all right.
You saved my face by telling me, though.
HMJr:
Well, you can do that to me.
E:
Yeah. Well, I will.
HMJr:
All right. It's easier for you to do it.
E:
(Laughs)
HMJr:
Now, one other thing while I have you. The Vice-
President showed me the letter from you to Cabinet
and heads of departments.
E:
Yeah.
HMJr:
....about.....
E:
About the speeches.
HMJr:
Yeah, fine. And somebody up there said, "Well,
this doesn't include Marriner Eccles."
E:
Well, by God, he doesn't make a speech, does he?
HMJr:
He makes one once a week.
E:
He does?
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MMJr:
Yeah. Some of them are terrible.
E:
Well, I'll just send him one.
HMJr:
Would you do that?
is
Sure.
HMJr:
It would make my life sweeter.
E:
Sure. Well, yes, Henry, I'll send him one;
because I didn't put him on the list because
he heads up a more or less independent shop
up there in Federal Reserve.
HMJr:
Well, his - some of his speeches cut across
the President and me more than any others.
3:
Well, I'll but him right on. He'll get it
today.
HMJr:
Wonderful.
E:
Right, sir.
HMJr:
Thank you.
E:
Now, Henry.
HMJr:
Yeah.
E:
This is a loan, is it?
HMJr:
Yeah, this is a loan.
E:
Well.
HMJr:
And they're going to give it to the press -
rather, release it - however they do that on
the Hill - at noon.
E:
Yeah. The Speaker'll handle it.
HMJr:
Yeah.
E:
All right. Thank you very much.
HMJr:
Thank you.
E:
Good-bye.
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H.M.JR: Now, any suggestions?
MR. WHITE: I have one comment. I think this sen-
tence is - only the British Government would dare do
this. "The United States part of the credit would no
doubt be made subject to similar conditions." They are
setting conditions for the loan that we are making with-
out discussing it with us. If we could only utilize
the brass that they have in some of our industry, I
think there wouldn't be any shortage.
H.M.JR: Anything else?
MR. WHITE: No, everything is taken care of.
H.M.JR: Ed, any suggestions?
MR. FOLEY: No.
H.M.JR: Dan?
MR. BELL: No, sir.
MR. WHITE: With your permission, I will just keep
Berle informed. I said I would.
H.M.JR: I think that would be good. If you don't
mind, I would like to call up Berle and thank him for
getting after Jones.
MR. WHITE: It would be very nice. I don't know
whether he did, but it would be very nice. He would
appreciate it, since he is in the doghouse.
MR. FOLEY: Is he in the doghouse?
MR. WHITE: Well, sort of.
H.M.JR: He is, as far 88 Harry is concerned, because
I have always treated him beautifully.
(Mrs. McHugh left the conference).
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MR. WHITE: Is it your thought - I imagine it is -
that you want a prepared statement, as in the past?
H.M.JR: That is right.
MR. WHITE: Herbert Feis expressed himself - I
don't know who he was talking for - he said they very
much do not want this matter to come before the Foreign
Relations Committee of the Senate.
H.M.JR: Well, that is very nice of Herbert Feis.
Now, I think that when T. V. Soong comes in this after-
noon that we ask him for suggestions. I think that is
a good plan. We will say, "Now, Mr. Soong, what ideas
have you got?"
MR. WHITE: Or what ideas has his Government got,
and that will give him a chance to get them, and 80 on.
(Miss Chauncey entered the conference.)
H.M.JR: That letter to Soong is all right. (Laughter)
What are you laughing at?
MR. FOLEY: She has got the Speaker in the right place.
H.M.JR: They wouldn't know the difference. You
had better send these by three different messengers, so
that they will get it.
MISS CHAUNCEY: All right.
H.M.JR: Thank you very much.
(Miss Chauncey left the conference).
H.M.JR: No, I think that the thing is to ask him -
don't you - ask him that - you know--
MR. BELL: If he has some ideas?
MR. WHITE: Maybe before the bill passes it might
be better to merely tell them to be thinking about it.
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n case the bill does pass we will want to go into the
matter very carefully. Otherwise, you are almost
committing yourself before it passes. I suppose it will
pass, but he might talk in such terms with his own
Government as to make them assume it is already
passed.
H.M.JR: No, I want to say, "How are you going to
use this?" and all the rest.
MR. BELL: I think he ought to say it before the
Secretary appears before the committee, and he hasn't
got time, I don't believe, to get word back from China.
MR. WHITE: Well, he can submit a tentative memoran-
dum.
H.M.JR: Did I give each of you a copy of Sir
Frederick Phillips'?
MR. FOLEY: Yes.
H.M.JR: Well now, Dan, the other thing is this.
As soon 88 we get out of this for air, then I want to
start with you men on the so-called Lend-Lease in
reverse, but we will clean this up first, you see.
Then we will do Lend-Lease in reverse.
MR. BELL: I got your memorandum on that thing.
You asked how are we buying sterling. Well, the
dollars I am putting over there is buying the ster-
ling. That is the way that is working.
H.M.JR: Did you get my memorandum that Viner
suggested Hardy as an addition to George Haas's
staff?
MR. BELL: Recently?
H.M.JR: Friday or Saturday.
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MR. BELL: I haven't seen it this morning.
H.M.JR: Have you got any opinion on Hardy?
MR. BELL: No, I haven't at all.
H.M.JR: Do you know him?
MR. BELL: I don't know him. I met him, but I
don't know anything about him. Jake brought him here,
you remember, for that banking study, and I haven't very
much use for Brookings, but he says he doesn't agree
with the Brookings crowd at all.
MR. WHITE: He has been there nine years.
MR. BELL: He says he doesn't agree with the crowd
over there.
H.M.JR: What do you think, Harry?
MR. WHITE: I think he is a second-rater. I don't
know. If George wants him - he is a whole lot better
than a lot of other men around town, but I am sure he
can also get a better man, and his connections with
Brookings, I think, are something to be avoided here.
MR. BELL: They never give up their connections.
They are always utilizing Brookings as a sort of extra
governmental agency to put out things as though they
are speaking for the Government. They have a lot of
prestige. I think it is unfortunate to have them have
& channel there.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Mr. Berle as follows:)
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February 2, 1942
11:19 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Adolf A.
Berle:
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
HMJr:
Hello.
B:
I think we're all set, unless something's
happened that I don't know about.
HMJr:
Well, we just came back down off the H111.
I don't know if anybody's told you that.
B:
No, sir. They haven't.
HMJr:
Well, Jones and I and my own people were on the
Hill.
B:
Yes.
HMJr:
And we met with the Vice-President and the
Speaker and Charlie McNary and Barkley and
somebody substituting for Joe Martin, and
it's all right.
B:
Fine.
HMJr:
And they're going to introduce it at noon, and
I just wanted to thank you, for I gather that
you must have gotten after Jesse Jones.
B:
I did.
HMJr:
Well, I wanted to thank you for the help on
that.
B:
Not at all, sir. Thank you for your help. I'm
very glad. I'm sorry the earlier idea which
you worked out didn't worry you. Let me say
now I was worried a little fearing that you
thought that we'd been unfriendly to the idea.
We were skeptical as to whether the Generalissimo
would be, but if it worked we were very happy
about it.
HMJr:
Well, it
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B:
We rather wondered whether he'd like it, but -
in fact, Stanley Hornbeck thought he probably
wouldn't, and as you know he didn't; but as far
as we're concerned, if it could have been worked
out that way, we're all happy.
HMJr:
Well, two other men liked it enthusiastically
by the name of Roosevelt and Churchill; but the
Generalissimo didn't, and it's to please him,
80 that's that.
B:
So that's that. Well, I suppose it is a little
bit funny to have a foreign government acting as
paymaster for your Army in a foreign currency.
I suppose if the situation were reversed we might
feel funny about it. However, that's his business
and not ours and the political result 1s the main
thing.
HMJr:
Well, anyway they liked it on the Hill, and I
just wanted to thank you for what I felt that
you had done with Jones.
B:
Well, we have done that, and I'm infinitely
obliged to you for your help in a matter that
I think is of great interest to all of us.
HMJr:
Righto.
B:
Thank you, sir.
HMJr:
Good-bye.
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64
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H.M.JR: They told me the same thing about Stanley
Hornbeck. You see, the thing that I told Berle, I said,
"Now, listen, Berle, no cables go out of the State Depart-
ment to prejudice the Chinese against this suggestion."
That is what bit him, you see.
MR. BELL: None went?
H.M.JR: What would you think from that conversa-
tion? I would say, "No."
MR. BELL: I would think not, because you sent
somebody over to look over the cables, didn't you?
H.M.JR: No, that was with Harry. I wanted to
make sure they didn't send something down on that so-
called "Morgenthau dollar." I wanted to make sure there
wasn't going to be something going down there which we
weren't sure about, because Harry and I were out on
the same limb together.
MR. WHITE: There was no dollar on that limb.
It was only an International Stabilization Fund.
H.M.JR: Well, but the stories which came out, the
poking of fun; and one fellow, you know, wrote it that
Mr. Hull debunked the thing, and there is nobody who
can debunk a thing better than Mr. Hull, which made me
believe that he had given an off-the-record statement
of it, you see, because you (Bell) told me that Hull
said he had never heard of it, so I just wanted to know
whether, without my knowing it, somebody had sent 8.
cable down there to try to torpedo this suggestion, and
I wanted to be sure.
MR. BELL: They had not?
H.M.JR: I will be terribly honest. When Harry
was to come back I got a slip back and I never looked
at it. I was afraid when he wasn't coming back - wait
a minute and let me see. I never looked at the dupli-
cates. Rio cables, here they are.
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65
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MR. WHITE: You never saw the cables?
H.M.JR: I was worried, you see, and when you came
back I quit fussing and I asked for a complete set of
cables. I never - but I mean, when I heard you weren't
coming back I didn't know what was going on, when we
got that cable, and I wanted to see whether there was
something going on that I didn't know about. Then when
I got word that you were coming back, I never bothered
to open them.
Well, this has been a little faster than I enjoy
it, but I guess it is necessary.
MR. WHITE: I suppose you will know sometime today
when the Committee is going to appear so that we will
know--
MR. FOLEY: I will follow up on that and keep you
advised.
H.M.JR: If you three gentlemen will come in at
three o'clock, and I will tell Viner to come in too.
MR. WHITE: Of course, going back to the question
of Hardy, if George Haas wants him I think he ought
to be able to get anybody he wants.
H.M.JR: I talked to everybody except Haas. I
sent him the memo. No, I mean I wanted to get everybody's
reaction before I talked to him. I think it is impor-
tant. I don't know whether George wants him or not.
But you people question him?
MR. BELL: Viner came to me and said it would be
8 good thing if we got Hardy in on this meeting we are
going to have this week to discuss the gap which George
is working on, and--
MR. WHITE: There are at least ten men around town
that know more than he does.
MR. BELL: We have got a committee of about twelve
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or fourteen, and I think that is enough.
H.M.JR: Well, let me give you the suggestion so
that you know where I was working from. I asked Viner
if he could give me the name of somebody who was out-
standing in American universities on Government finance,
and I wanted a man who would approach him as good as
Viner in his field, and the name he came back with was
Hardy.
MR. WHITE: Well, maybe Jack knows him better than
I do.
H.M.JR: I just want to give you the history on
this thing. Let me finish, just one second. Somebody
who would sit back like Viner does in & consultant
capacity without any administrative responsibility and
only on Government finance, who would be one of the
recognized outstanding men in Government finance. A
man like Viner that we call in, no administrative
responsibilities. I thought we could use a man like
that you see.
What?
MR. WHITE: Well, if you ask a dozen others and if
any of them mention Hardy, I will buy you a fall hat.
MR. BELL: Just from what I know of him, I don't
know very much and I am probably doing him an injustice,
I wouldn't choose him.
H.M.JR: In fairness to myself, that is what I
asked for.
MR. BELL: Harry, do you know this fellow at
Columbia? Nador? N-a-d-o-r, is it?
MR. WHITE: There is a fellow under Mitchell who
is very brilliant and able if you can get him. I know
I have tried to get him, and he won't come. We couldn't
offer him enough.
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MR. BELL: What is his name?
MR. WHITE: There are several others with the
same name around town. He has always worked under
Mitchell, but if you want to get somebody, Wesley
Mitchell is of that character.
MR. BELL: This fellow Nador - I think it is N-a-d-e-r
or something like that. He has got a pretty good repu-
tation.
H.M.JR: I don't want Wesley Mitchell.
MR. WHITE: But this fellow -his field is business
cycles. It is just this thing. He has done more writ-
ing, but he is an older man and doesn't want to come
down.
H.M.JR: I don't want that.
MR. WHITE: But he has a man under him--
H.M.JR: I don't want him. That isn't what I.
want.
MR. BELL: This fellow teaches finance at Columbia,
and he issues bulletins, and I think sells his services.
MR. WHITE: But public finance - oh, yes, I know.
You are thinking of a man on international finance. It
does begin with an "N." It may be Nader, but I didn't
think 80. But this is not the sort of thing the
Secretary is talking about, I don't think. This thin
that you are talking about, Mr. Secretary, is consump-
tion, national income and so on. There are men out-
standing in just that field.
H.M.JR: No, that is not--
MR. WHITE: Public finance is not that field.
H.M.JR: That isn't what I am talking about.
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MR. WHITE: But public finance is taxation and
raising bonds. That is why it is called finance.
H.M.JR: That isn't what I want. What I want
is somebody who will be studying sources from which
we can borrow.
MR. WHITE: Well, that is income, national income,
consumption studies and things of that character which -
I will submit to you a list of a half dozen names of
the leading men. There aren't many left in the uni-
versities on it.
H.M.JR: Do you know anybody?
MR. BELL: This one man I just happened to think
of.
H.M.JR: You suggest some.
MR. WHITE: I will suggest some.
MR. BELL: I am not so sure you haven't got most of
them in the Government service.
MR. WHITE: With the exception of one or two, I
think they are all here. There aren't many good out-
standing economists in that field.
MR. BELL: And they all differ. They never get
together on their subjects.
(The Secretary held & telephone conversation with
Mr. Rayburn as follows:)
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69
February 2, 1942
11:29 a.m.
HMJr:
Hello.
Speaker
Rayburn:
Henry.
4MJr:
Yes, Sam.
A:
Sol's in the office, and he'll introduce this
bill at noon.
HMJr:
Yes.
R:
I'll release 8 copy of it, and the President's
letter
HMJr:
Yeah.
of
and now who do you - he wants a hearing -
we want a hearing at ten o'clock in the morning,
whatever hearing we're going to have.
HMJr:
Yeah.
R:
I guess we'll leave it up to you. Would the
Secretary of State want to come?
HMJr:
Well, I think he should.
R1
Well, I'd better call him, then.
HMJr:
I think - he'e going to tell you he's got a cold
and all that, but he's in his office now because
I just talked to him, and I think it's very im-
portant that he come.
R:
Well, now, you bring whoever you want to and come
up at ten.
HMJr:
I'd like Stimson to come, too, because Stimson
feels very strongly on thie.
R:
And it'll be an executive session.
HMJr:
I see. Well, if you could have Hull, would you
call Hull and Stimson?
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R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
What?
R:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Hull and Stimson, I think, would give you the
best - and I'll be there, too.
R:
All right, Henry.
HMJr:
At ten o'clock tomorrow.
R:
At ten o'clock in the morning in Sol's committee
room.
HMJr:
Well, that's moving.
R:
Fine. Why we're going to try and pass it
Wednesday.
HMJr:
You're going to pass it Wednesday?
R:
Try to.
HMJr:
Did you make any changes?
R:
No.
HMJr:
No.
R:
No. I could make it an authorization instead of
an appropriation.
HMJr:
Well, 60 we understand each other - you'll call
Hull and Stimson.
R:
That's right.
HMJr:
And I'll appear there myself at ten o'clock.
R:
Fine, Henry.
HMJr:
Before Sol Bloom in executive session.
R:
That's right.
HMJr:
Righto.
R:
All right.
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H.M.JR: Well, I don't mind being a little crotchety
with you fellows, if you don't mind, as long as I get
the things done.
MR. WHITE: Why shouldn't they get Knox as long
as you are getting them all?
H.M.JR: I don't know how Knox feels on this thing.
MR. FOLEY: He is away, isn't he?
H.M.JR: I don't know, but listen - oh, gee, I
didn't say Jesse Jones, did I? Stimson feels this thing
very stiff. How about Bill Donovan? He has feelings
on this thing.
MR. FOLEY: Well, he and Hull don't get along very
well.
H.M.JR: That is right. I think if you have Hull,
Stimson, and myself, and Jesse.
Now, when can I see this prepared statement,
because I haven't got a hell of a lot of time?
MR. WHITE: This afternoon.
MR. FOLEY: Four o'clock.
H.M.JR: I have got press at four.
MR. BELL: Four-thirty.
MR. FOLEY: After press.
MR. WHITE: Three o'clock?
MR. FOLEY: T. V. Soong is coming in at three.
H.M.JR: Soong won't take more than fifteen minutes.
We will do it right after that.
MR. WHITE: Soong won't have many ideas, and he
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won't want to give anything definite, so I don't think
he will take long.
H.M.JR: He never takes long. Supposing we con-
tinue right after that.
MR. BELL: Can you prepare something in an hour
and a half, Harry? I think it won't be very long.
H.M.JR: Harry, get Viner to help you.
MR. WHITE: Mr. Secretary, anything at all that
is ever in Mr. Viner's field, I always ask him to help
me. I am always glad of his help.
H.M.JR: Well, that hasn't always been 80.
MR. WHITE: That has always been true except where
we have - questions where I know we are opposed on
domestic policy and in which I didn't think it would be
& help but & hinderance, as far as I was concerned, but
on foreign policy.
H.M.JR: Well--
MR. WHITE: Or monetary matters.
MR. BELL: It is always better to have Jake in
after something is prepared, because he will argue for
two hours before he gets started.
MR. WHITE: He is helpful, and I am always glad to
have him.
MR. BELL: It is very helpful to get his criticisms
on documents that have been prepared.
MR. WHITE: But again, thinking of somebody for
Haas' division, you know, Viner is in a little different
position than he would be if Haas had somebody in his
division. There are men who might come in the same
capacity as Viner, but who might or might not come in a--
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H.M.JR: Well, the man I had in mind would be in
the same relation to the rest of us as Viner is.
Now, if you ask me who is Viner responsible to,
I don't know. He has never raised the question. He is
here to help all of us.
MR. BELL: Well, he is responsible to you, but we
all use him.
H.M.JR: Including Harry.
MR. WHITE: Very definitely, and I am very glad to.
MR. BELL: He really sits in on most of our con-
ferences.
MR. FOLEY: He has been in on all this China thing.
MR. WHITE: Whenever he is in the Treasury he is
always in.
MR. FOLEY: He was in Harry's office on all of
this.
H.M.JR: I believe Harry. I don't know why Harry
is suddenly sensitive on that one.
MR. WHITE: Because three times in the last week,
you have reminded me to get him in. I always do. I
didn't know whether that was an indication that you
think I don't.
H.M.JR: Well, sometime when we are alone I will
tell you why.
MR. WHITE: O.K. I will try to give you some
names of those that I hear about and I will ask other
men about Hardy. Maybe I have got a peculiar notion
about him.
H.M.JR: Well, you men needn't wait. I will just
tell Harry now and get it off my chest, that is all.
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February 2, 1942
Dear Dr. Soong:
I am enclosing herewith, for your
confidential information, copy of 8. reso-
lution, covering loan to China, which will
be laid before the House today by the Speaker,
in substantially this form.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) I. Norgesthau. 37,
Dr. T. V. Soong,
1601 V Street,
Washington, D. C.
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75
February 2, 1942
My dear Sir Frederick:
I am enclosing herewith, for your
confidential information, copy of a. reso-
lution, covering loan to China, which will
be laid before the House today by the Speaker,
in substantially this form.
Yours sincerely,
(Signed) 1. Morgentbau, Jr.
Sir Frederick Phillips,
The British Embassy,
Washington, D. C.
Rm 909, willare Hotel
delivered to
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76
February 2, 1942
My dear Mr. Ambassador:
I am enclosing herewith, for your
confidential information, copy of a reso-
lution, covering loan to China, which will
be laid before the House today by the Speaker,
in substantially this form.
Yours sincerely,
INC Mergenthan, Fi
His Excellency,
The Ambassador of the Union of
Soviet Socialist Republics.
JOINT RESOLUTION
77
To authorize the President of the
United States to render financial
aid to China, and for other urposes.
MEREAS China has for more than four years valiantly
resisted the forces of Japanese agression; and
WILLREAS financial and economic aid to China will increase
her ability to oppose the forces of aggression; and
WIENDEAS the defense of China it of the greatest possible
importance: Therefore be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States in Congress assembled, That the Secretary
of the Treasury with the approval of the President is hereby
authorized, on behalf of the United States, to loan or extend
credit or give other financial aid to China in an amount not
to exceed in the aggregate $500,000,000 at such time or
times and upon such terms and conditions as the Secretary of
the Treasury with the approval of the President shall deem
in the interest of the United States.
Sec. 2. The authority herein granted shall be in
addition to any other authority provided by law.
Sec. 3. There is hereby appropriated out of any money
In the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such sum or sums
not to exceed $500,000,000 as may be necessary to carry out
the provisions of this Joint Resolution.
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78
February 2, 1942
My dear Cordell:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I an inclosing herewith photo-
static copies of the President's let-
ters to the Speaker of the House and
the Vice President, and Secretary
Knox's and Secretary Stimson's letters
to the President, in connection with
the Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
Many
Honorable Cordell Hull,
The Secretary of State.
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79
February 2, 1942
My dear Henry:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I an inclosing herewith photo-
static copies of the President's let-
ters to the Speaker of the House and
the Vice President, and Secretary
Hull's and Secretary Knox's letters to
the President, in connection with the
Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Henry
Honorable Henry L. Stimson,
The Secretary of War.
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80
February 2, 1942
My dear Frank:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I an inclosing herewith photo-
static copies of the President's let-
ters to the Speaker of the House and
the Vice President, and Secretary Hull's
and Secretary Stimson's letters to
the President, in connection with the
Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Henry
Honorable Frank Knox,
Secretary of the Navy.
81
February 2, 1942
My dear Jesse:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I am inclosing herewith photo-
static copies of the President's let-
ters to the Speaker of the House and
the Vice President, and letters from
Secretaries Hull, Stimson and Knox to
the President, in connection with the
Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Henry
Honorable Jesse Jones,
The Secretary of Commerce.
82
February 2, 1942
My dear Harold:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I am inclosing herewith photo-
static copies of the President's 1st-
ters to the Speaker of the House and
the Vice President, and letters from
Secretaries Hull, Stimson and Knox to
the President, in connection with the
Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
(Mont) 2. Morgenthas, It,
Honorable Harold Smith,
Director of the Budget.
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83
February 2, 1942
(Signed) Henry
My dear Mr. Vice President:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I am inclosing herewith copies
of the letters from Secretaries Hull,
Stimson and Knox to the President, in
connection with the Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Henry
The Honorable,
The Vice President of
the United States.
84
February 2, 1942
(Signed) Hunry
My dear Mr. Speaker:
For your confidential informa-
tion, I am inclosing herewith copies
of the letters from Secretaries Hull,
Stimson and Knox to the President,
in connection with the Chinese loan.
Sincerely yours,
(Signed) Henry
The Honorable,
The Speaker of the House
of Representatives.
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
My dear Mr. Speaker:
Responsible officials both of this Govern-
ment and of the Government of China, have brought
to my attention the existence of urgent need for
the immediate extension to China of economic
and financial assistance, going beyond in amount
and different in form from such aid as Congress
has already authorized. I believe that such ad-
ditional assistance would serve to strengthen
China's position as regards both her internal
economy and her capacity in general to function
with great military effectiveness in our common
effort.
I urge, therefore, the passage by Congress of
appropriate legislation to this effect and attach
hereto a suggested draft of a joint resolution which
would accomplish this purpose.
Sincerely yours,
The Honorable,
The Speaker of the House of Representatives.
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THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
My dear Mr. Vice President:
Responsible officials both of this Govern-
ment and of the Government of China, have brought
to my attention the existence of urgent need for
the immediate extension to China of economic
and financial assistance, going beyond in amount
and different in form from such aid as Congress
has already authorized. I believe that such ad-
ditional assistance would serve to strengthen
China's position aa regards both her internal
sconomy and her capacity in general to function
with great military effectiveness in our common
effort.
I urge, therefore, the passage by Congress of
appropriate legislation to this effect and attach
hereto a suggested draft of a joint resolution which
would accomplish this purpose.
Sincerely yours,
The Honorable,
The Vice President of the United States.
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JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the President of the
United States to render financial
aid to China, and for other purposes.
THEREAS China has for more than four years valiantly
tad the forces of Japanese aggression; and
WHEREAS financial and economic aid to China will increase
birth ability to oppose the forces of aggression; and
WHEREAS the defense of China is of the greatest possible
importance: Therefore be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives
of the United States in Congress assembled, That the Secretary
of the Treasury with the approval of the President is hereby
authorized, on behalf of the United States, to loan or extend
readit or give other financial aid to China in an amount not
to erceed in the aggregate $500,000,000 at such time or
Clear and upon such terms and conditions as the Secretary of
Treasury with the approval of the President shall deem
the interest of the United States.
Sec. 2. The authority herein granted shall be in
Ition to any other authority provided by law.
Sec. 3. There is hereby appropriated out of any money
the Treasury not otherwise appropriated, such sum or sums
to exceed $500,000,000 as may be necessary to carry out
provisions of this Joint Resolution.
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THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
My dear Mr. President:
I refer to the urgent request which this
Government has received from Generalissimo Chiang
Kai-shek to help him, by financial assistance, to
maintain more effectively the morale of the
Chinese people. Recent military developments in
the Pacific and difficult economic and financial
conditions in China have made necessary remedial
action of a. substantial character.
The military operations which the armies of
China under the Generalissimo are carrying on and
are planning to carry on are of extreme importance
to us. It would be very unfortunate if we were to
overlook any possibility of checking the impair-
ment of China's morale resulting from the growing
internal difficulties in China. I am convinced
that the financial assistance which the General-
issimo has requested would make an effective con-
tribution to the maintenance of China's morale and
military strength.
I strongly recommend, therefore, that we should
grant the Generalissimo's request without delay.
Faithfully,
Janketnox
The President,
The White House.
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WAR DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
January 31st, 1942.
Nty dear Mr. President:
The confidential information which has been
coming to me during the past few weeks indicates that
the difficult economic and financial situation within
China is impairing her military effort.
Our information indicates further that sub-
stantial financial aid must be given to China quickly
if we are to have assurance that recent and prospective
military developments will not too seriously weaken the
morale of the Chinese people.
Any substantial financial help that can be
given to China at this time can not but help strengthen
her striking power.
I therefore urge for your consideration that
the financial assistance which I as informed the
Generalissimo is requesting be granted expeditiously.
Faithfully,
Hurry Struson
The President,
The White House.
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DEPARTMENT OF STATE
WASHINGTON
January 31, 1942
Bear Mr. President:
I refer to Generalissimo Chiang Kai-Shek's request
for an immediate credit to China of $500,000,000 to
assist him in China's prosecution of the war.
China is now in her fifth year of war against
aggression and has had to draw very heavily upon her
own resources. Certain loans have been made to China
through the Federal Loan Agency, mostly in connection
with the purchase of strategic materials. These loans
have been used to buy supplies in this country, but
China now needs cash to be used within, or from within,
its own borders, and I strongly recommend that you ask
Congress to authorize loans, or credits, or both, to
China up to $500,000,000. The brilliant resistance to
aggression which the Chinese have made and are making,
and their contribution to the common cause, deserve the
fullest support we can give.
Sincerely yours,
The President,
The White House.
Correshiel
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91
February 2, 1942
11:35 a.m.
HMJr:
Sam, in talking, I forgot. Of course, Jesse
Jones.
Speaker
Rayburn:
Yes.
HMJr:
Jeese would like to testify and I'd like to have
h1m testify.
R:
Yeah. All right, fine.
HMJr:
Thank you.
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92
February 2, 1942
1:16 p.m.
Dorretor:
Go ahead.
HMJr:
Hello.
Cons. Sol
Bloom:
Hello, Henry.
4MJr:
Yes.
is
Sol speaking. Say, the Speaker spoke to you
about who's to come up here tomorrow?
(MJr:
That's right.
9:
Now, who's going to come up?
H&Jr:
Well, there should be Mr. Hull, and Mr. Stimson
a
Yes.
WJr:
Jesse Jones, and myself.
B:
Fine. All right. At ten o'clock.
HMJr:
Ten clock.
#:
Yes.
HMJr:
Yeah.
B:
And you haven't spoken to anyone else, then?
HMJr:
No.
B:
All right. I'll get them all. So then you'd
rather have it at ten for yourself?
HMJr:
Well, if.....
in
I'll see what they can do. If you don't hear
from me, I'll tell your secretary. If not, if
you come up - oh, a few minutes after ten or
80, and then I'll arrange the other accordin ly.
Mr.
Now, don't let Cordell Hull tell you he's sick,
see?
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93
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B:
Yes.
HMJr:
Because he's in his office today.
B:
Yes.
HMJr:
And he ought to come up.
B:
Well, he can be just as sick up here as he
can up there, you know.
HMJr:
That's right.
B:
(Laughs) All right. I'll get Stimson and Jones,
then.
HMJr:
Right.
B:
All right, Henry.
Regraded Unclassified
94
Following message telephoned to Mr. White by Mr. Pinsent,
February 2, 1942, et 2:05 p.m.
"llis Majesty's Government are willing to make available
under A lend-lease arrangement all munitions and military
en inment which it is possible for then to supply.
"In addition, His Majesty's Government are informing
the Chinese Government of their willingness to lend to China
The war purposes an amount un to 450 million, at such time
and unon such terms as may be agreed between the two govern-
netts."
There was an introduction which Mr. Pinsent said he
don't take down, regarding desire to cooperate with China.
He is not sure it has been released yet, but is being released
in London this evening.
HDW:ls
2/2/42
efs
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95
February 2, 1942
3:05 p.m.
AID TO CHINA
Present: Mr. Soong
Mr. Bell
Mr. Foley
Mr. White
Mr. Southard
Mr. Viner
Mr. Kuhn
H.M.JR: Well, you know what the English have done.
They have raised themselves up to fifty million pounds.
MR. SOONG: From ten to fifty.
MR. PELL: They have added Lend-Lease, too.
H.M.JR: Now, what are the figures on Lend-Lease?
I haven't had any chance to do my home work. I hope you
don't mind if I do it in your presence. How does this
figure check with what you have? I have asked Lend-Lease
how much the allocations are, and they say six hundred
fifteen million, of which about twenty-five million has
been shipped.
MR. SOONG: 1 think considerably more than twenty-
five million.
H.M.JR: Have you got the figures?
MR. SOONG: I know the six fifteen is right, in
addition to more for the third Lend-Lease.
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96
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H.M.JR: Third?
MR. SOONG: This is for the first and second. The
third is six hundred million.
H.M.JR: You mean when the bill passes?
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: But as of today --
MR. SOONG: The six hundred fifteen is right.
H.M.JR: And in the third Lend-Lease there would be
how much?
MR. SOONG: Between four hundred and six hundred
million.
H.M.JR: I see. Well now, what I want to ask you,
Dr. Soong, is this. I have to go and appear at ten
o'clock tomorrow before the Committee on Foreign Affairs
in the House, and if they say to me, "Under what terms
and conditions are you going to make this loan," what
shall I tell them?
MR. SOONG: You ask me to begin considering the
matter?
H.M.JR: That is right.
MR. SOONG: Now, in one of the Generalissimo's
telegrams he asked that a loan be granted without any
conditions as to use, and on terms at least as generous
as the Lend-Lease terms. Now, the Lend-Lease terms
are specifically contained in that paper (handing docu-
ment to the Secretary).
H.M.JR: This is the Lend-Lease?
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: They never got beyond, "which the President
deems satisfactory" (returning document to Mr. Soong)?
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97
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MR. SOONG: No, they never got beyond that. Now,
in accordance with that, I made some scheme, very
preliminary. I did not even refer to the Generalissimo,
but I thought it might be a starting point for you to
consider.
H.M.JR: Thank you.
"The terms and conditions upon which China receives
this financial aid shall Fe those which the Secretary
of the Treasury under the direction of the President
deems satisfactory.
"After the war the President shall determine the
precise terms for settlement of this financial aid.
In so doing he will deal with the matter as one of
adjustment between the United Nations taking into
account the declaration by the United Nations of
January 2, 1942, by which each Government pledges itself
to employ its full resources, military or economic,
against those members of the Tripartite Pact and its
adherents with which such government is at war.
"China on her part agrees to abide by the terms
which the President shall subsequently so determine."
Well, let me ask you this, which isn't clear in
my mind. The chances of this going through are excellent,
you see. My estimate of one or two weeks is still good.
Let's say this thing passes and credit is open on the
books of the Treasury for five hundred million dollars
to the Chinese Government. Do you think you are going
to need any of it right away?
MR. SOONG: Well, my Government has not told me
exactly what they will use it for.
H.M.JR: You don't know?
MR. SOONG: No, 80 I don't know.
H.M.JR: Well, could you cable them for instructions?
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98
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MR. SOONG: How quickly the money would be used?
H.M.JR: Well, you see what I would like to be
prepared to answer is - what I would like to know is -
what you have in mind, you see, to do with this
money, because they may ask me tomorrow. If I can't
answer, they may say, "Well, we will have to wait."
They may ask me in the Senate. They are much more apt
to ask me when I appear before the Senate. In fact,
this morning when --
MR. BELL: It was the first question they asked
you this morning.
H.M.JR: That was the first question they asked.
"Well, what are they going to use this money for?"
Well, I have got to be truthful. I don't know.
Well, that doesn't sound very intelligent on my part.
"Are they going to use it all right away?" "I don't
know." "Are they going to spend it here, or are they
going to use it in China?"
In other words, I don't know. And this morning
I was successful, but now when Congressman Fish goes
after me tomorrow, I don't know whether he is a friend
of China or whether he isn't, you see, and then when
I get up before the Senate, so the quicker you could
get something for me the better.
MR. SOONG: I an afraid that if I were to ask for
this question, probably the reply would also be in rather
vague general terms. I imagine the reply would be
something like this. "China would need the money to
support the currency, to meet current expenditures.
That as to the method of using it, it wants to be free
to use it in as elastic a way as possible, and probably
there will have to be much of it in the way of trial and
error, because as you started the New Deal, you did
not know exactly how you were going to do it, but there
is a broad objective. There are the funds required, and
if it is working one way that has proved successful,
go on with it, and if not, try another way. Because
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we are meeting with an extraordinary situation. There-
fore, extraordinary methods may have to be employed."
I suppose that would be the answer that would be given
to me. I do not believe that - in fact, I have been
asking them for something very concrete.
H.M.JR: You have?
MR. SOONG: Yes, before, see. That was the gist
of their reply.
H.M.JR: But now that you know that the loan is
within sight, couldn't you ask them again?
MR. SOONG: Of course I could ask, see. But I don't
know whether they would be in any way more specific
than this.
H.M.JR: Well --
MR. SOONG: If you want me to, of course I shall
be glad to cable immediately.
H.M.JR: You see, Mr. Fox isn't here, so I don't
know what message he is earrying. At least they could
tell me what they have told Fox. Or rather, they could
tell you what they have told Fox.
MR. SOONG: Oh, yes, surely.
H.M.JR: At least they could tell you what they
told Fox, so that you could tell me what they have
told Fox.
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: Well, I am not going to press it, but
all I am asking you is, give me everything that you
can to help me testify, in order to successfully get
the loan through.
MR. SOONG: That will be tomorrow?
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H.M.JR: I am not worried so much about tomorrow
as I am when I go before the Senate.
MR. SOONG: Of course what will be presented by
my Government to me will be not in a sense & commitment.
That is, they don't bind themselves to use 80 many
millions for such purpose and 30 many millions for ano-
ther purpose, but it is generally to give the - am I
not correct?
H.M.JR: You are lucky you are not having to deal
with Mr. Jones on this. That is only for you. I am
not going to - the whole purpose of this thing is to
make General Chiang Kai-shek happy. That is the whole
purpose of the thing, you see. We want to make him
feel happy. Now, I am not going to press the thing to
a point where I am going to make him feel unhappy,
but everything that he could tell me that he does know
that is in his mind would be that much more helpful
to me, that is all.
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: Do you see?
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: We are doing this as one friendly nation
to another, and we want to do it in a nice manner. Now,
anything that he has - anything that he told Fox or any-
thing that he would like to tell me through you would
be that much more helpful.
MR. SOONG: I suppose what he told Fox was
generally, why in his opinion the arrangement of the
payment of the troops would not work satisfactorily.
And then I imagine Fox has been discussing with him
a number of possible methods by which the money could
be usefully expended. I will wire to him.
H.M.JR: That would te useful to me.
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MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: Bell, do you think of anything?
MR. BELL: No, but I do think those are important.
H.M.JR: What?
MR. BELL: I think it is unfortunate you haven't
got something tomorrow.
H.M.JR: I do too.
MR. BELL: That is something you are going to have
to answer.
H.M.JR: It is going to be very difficult.
MR. SOONG: Would it be hard to say, supporting
the Chinese currency and - and secondly, as I said,
for military expenditures?
MR. BELL: I don't think support of the currency
is enough, because you have got a Stabilization loan
for that.
H.M.JR: Yes, they asked me - I mean, how do I
explain what - if I say, for the currency and then
you have a credit here of fifty million dollars, none
of which you have drawn on.
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: It would be different if that was exhausted.
MR. BELL: How about helping to balance your budget?
(Laughter).
H.M.JR: I know the explanation which you gave me
about the Generalissimo wanting this as a reserve the
way he has troops, but frankly, I can't make that
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explanation to the Congress, and you understand.
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: What?
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: It isn't the kind ofexplanation which I
could make. Well, let's hope for the best. We have
been very lucky so far. Senator McNary was fine this
morning. Senator McNary is all right. But Joe Martin,
the minority leader, was not there, and they sent
another man there by the name of Michener from Michigan
and he seems to have a lot of doubts, but he agreed
to go along, 80 it puts a lot on my shoulders, but we will
do the best we can, and I hope that - if Mr. Hull and
Mr. Stimson go up, I think that is going to help 8.
lot. Mr. Hull this morning said he was too sick to
go, but I think they will get him to go up there.
MR. SOONG: About this British thing, did they
say something about Lend-Lease?
H.M.JR: Yes, they do say something about Lend-
Lease. They are going to make available all the muni-
tions and military equipment which you can use. No,
"which it is possible for them to supply under Lend-
Lease."
MR. WHITE: This is in addition?
H.M.JR: This is in addition. Well, we can say
the same thing. We are saying the same thing. And
then in addition, they are proposing to lend you fifty
million pounds. They started at ten, and they are up
to fifty now. I imagine they will tell you more. They
say this is only half of it. The rest is being released
from London this evening.
MR. SOONG: I am curious to know the terms of that.
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H.M.JR: Yes.
MR. SOONG: They haven't told you?
H.M.JR: Not as of today. They showed me something
yesterday which I would rather they would show you.
It may be different today. What they showed me yester-
day, I think they may have forgotten about that.
MR. BELL: They say their own terms and conditions
to be agreed upon.
H.M.JR: Yes. At such times and on such terms as
may be agreed upon by the two Governments. Do they do
that through your Ambassador in London?
MR. SOONG: Well, probably they will do it like
the last time they signed here.
H.M.JR: I see.
MR. SOONG: I did not know that the message -
the indications from home were that we should discuss
it with you people.
H.M.JR: Well, I am partly responsible, you see,
because --
MR. SOONG: Oh, yes.
H.M.JR: I let the English know yesterday what I
was going to do, and then they must have got busy and
telephoned and they said to tell them as soon as I knew
and from last night to tonight the fact that we were
going to do something - they decided that they would do
more. So I think that the decision was made - they
only heard it at five o'clock last night, 80 since five
o'clock last night and up until noon today they have
decided to do more.
MR. SOONG: Probably it was referred to the Prime
Minister.
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H.M.JR: I asked them to refer it to the Prime
Minister. What I told them yesterday, "Please to send
it to Mr. Churchill," and he is very sympathetic himself
to China.
MR. SOONG: Yes.
H.M.JR: So I said - the message I gave them yes-
terday was for the Prime Minister.
MR. SOONG: Probably that was it.
H.M.JR: So it was settled there rather than -
it is always good, isn't it?
MR. SOONG: Yes, it is most cheerful.
H.M.JR: And it is going to be done in a nice friend-
ly manner. I mean, that is the whole idea. We want
to be helpful at this time. I think this all happened
since five o'clock last night. Well, as we go along
we will keep you informed. Have any of you gentlemen
got any after-thoughts, anybody?
MR. WHITE: No. We have cabled Fox to communicate
whatever he had, and he has left --
H.M.JR: Where is he?
MR. WHITE: Well, we cabled to India, but he has
left the place that he was yesterday, and if the present
schedule holds out, he should be here before the end of
the week, either Thursday or Friday.
H.M.JR: This week?
MR. WHITE: Yes. But in the meantime --
H.M.JR: This is moving so fast.
MR. WHITE: We just received word about an hour ago.
MR. SOONG: He has left Karachi?
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(Mr. Soong left the conference.)
MR. WHITE: What I think happened on that was that
they must have decided that, and they told Phillips
to hold it until they heard from you that it was all
right up on the Hill. Then when Phillips got word from
you of what you had done there and it looked like a fait
accompli, they called us back and said they would announce
it. I presume that was the sequence of events.
We have two things here. We have A draft state-
ment.
H.M.JR: Where are my dark glasses? (Laughter).
MR. WHITE: It isn't final. We also have B state-
ment --
H.M.JR: Is somebody doing something?
MR. WHITE: God Almighty is doing his best. That
is what bothers me.
MR. BELL: I am afraid he can't hear you,
(Mr. Kuhn entered the conference.)
H.M.JR: Ferdie, this is my statement.
MR. KUHN: Tomorrow?
H.M.JR: I want you to get in on it please.
MR. KUHN: Good.
H.M.JR: I don't like thing about their crops.
"Their lives, their homes, their factories." I don't
know what you mean by their crops.
MR. WHITE: They have eaten most of their crops.
H.M.JR: Well, I don't think it helps any. Who
wrote this?
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MR. WHITE: It is composite. Coe and Friedman
worked yesterday on 8 preliminary draft and Viner,
Southard, and I, and Bernstein rewrote it in the last
hour.
H.M.JR: It is good.
MR. BELL: Yes. This must be misspelled. "In
waging this war China has well-nigh performed economic
and military" --
MR. SOUTHARD: Miracles. We tried three times to
get that word out of the draft.
H.M.JR: I would like to work this in. "At the
beginning of the war the Chinese" - and had accomplished
unifying of their currency.
MR. WHITE: That is only a small part of it.
H.M.JR: Yes, but you are going to talk about the
thing. I mean, I always thought that the fact that they
had just accomplished unifying their currency and had one
currency was a sort of 8. signal for Japan to attack them.
MR. WHITE: And had just completed unifying their
currency and banking system.
H.M.JR: Something. "Amazingly well." "Exceedingly"
isn't strong enough for me. It is at the top of four.
It is amazing, what they have done.
MR. SOUTHARD: Instead of "remarkably." At the top
of five, "extremely honorable in carrying out any -
carrying out all obligations which they have assumed."
MR. VINER: I wouldn't use the word "honorable."
I would use something else. "Punctilious" is a good term.
All men are honorable.
MR. WHITE: That is true.
H.M.JR: And instead of being negative, "took no
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actions prejudicial to American interests," I would put
it the other way around, "gave the American interests
fair treatment." "The Chinese Government has now urgently" -
have you spoken to Lauch Currie recently? Today?
MR. WHITE: I spoke to him today to see if he could
get this Lend-Lease figure, because we weren't able to
get them from Lend-Lease in time.
H.M.JR: I thought I would ask him to come over
and help us on this.
MR. WHITE: It would be very good.
H.M.JR: Make it Mr. Jesse Jones.
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Mr. Lauchlin Currie as follows:)
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February 2, 1942
3:38 p.m.
MJr:
Hello.
Operator: Mr. Currie.
4MJr:
Hello.
Lauchlin
Hello, Mr. Secretary.
Currie:
TVr:
Lauch?
C:
Yeah.
m'Jr:
Well, we've been rether fortunate the last few days.
C:
Yeah, things have gone amazingly well, I'd say.
Unprecedented.
(Laughs.)
HWr:
Well.....
C:
Itwent through 80 quickly.
HVTr:
What?
C:
It's unprecedented for things to go through BO
quickly.
="Jr:
Yeah.
E
I should have known you.
4"Jr:
Oh, yeah, yeah. Lauch, I'm working out B. statement
with the boys here, and I thought if you had time
to drop over and go over it - I'm sure you could be
helpful.
0:
Why, I'd like to, Mr. Secretary, but I - I'm tied
un at the moment with a - A general. (Laughs.)
"Wr:
A general?
C:
Yeah. (laughs.)
MJr:
Well, I'm only a private.
C:
You're only a private? ! (Laughs.)
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HMJr:
Well, when will you be - - when will you swallow
the general?
C:
I should think that I would finish up in about
an hour.
HMJr:
Well, if you come over to Harry White's the thing
will still be in the - there'll still be room for
you to change plenty of words.
(Laughs.)
HMJr:
Don't get indigestion now.
C:
No. That's not an awfully good showing, I'm afraid,
I sent over. Did Harry show you the figures?
HMJr:
No. You mean the twenty-five million?
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
Yeah.
C:
But on the other hand, it's as much as we sent the
Russians.
HMJr:
Right. What?
C:
Yeah.
HMJr:
It's what did you say?
C:
It's as much as we sent Russia.
HMJr:
Yeah. Okay.
C:
Okay. Thanks.
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H.V.JR: He will be over in about an hour. This first
(menty-five million, who made that loan?
MR. WHITE: Well --
MR. BELL: It was the Export-Import Bank, wasn't ito
VR. WHITE: Tt was the Export-Import Bank purchase,
rut they sere to pay it back in tung oil.
H.M.JR: I remember it intimately. I just wondered
if we were saying too much about Jones. He can repeat
It, can't he?
Vs. WHITE: You never could tell from this state-
ment who made it.
H.M.JR: Did you do that on purpose?
MR. VINER: No.
MR. WHITE: Well, I don't know - that is the loan
they have repaid and have the best record on. It is
an Export-Import Bank loan.
H.M.JR: I just wondered whether, in view of Jones
testifying and my testifying, if I did this first, you
know how he is. He might say, "well, hell, Morgenthau
ala it all," and put on his hat and walk out. If you
simply say, "They have always been prompt in their
payments, and Mr. Jones can tell you more about the
details, and he is here to do so" - and let's leave it
at that. He might get sore and put on his hat and walk
out. I think I would do it that way, gentlemen.
MP.. WHITE: All right.
MR. VINER: Is there any chance of showing him this
before he has to testify?
MR. 3 UTHART: Or even getting in touch with him?
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MR. WHITE: It would be nice to show it to him.
H.M.JR: It would be good to show it to - of course
the thing to do if ours was finished would be to show
it to all three Cabinet members who are going up there.
MR. VINER: Well, we could do it by six o'clock, I
should say.
H.M.JR: Fine. Well now, you say "joint". Didn't
the English get in on that?
MR. WHITE: Which?
H.M.JR: At the bottom of page seven.
MR. BELL: Yes.
MR. WHITE: Not on the dollars. They had some
sterling.
H.M.JR: But didn't they put up their stuff also
as 8. cushion?
MR. BELL: Yes.
H.M.JR: Didn't they come before us?
MR. WHITE: Not as a cushion for our dollars.
Theirs was only sterling.
MR. VINER: Still they ought to be mentioned there.
MR. BELL: Yes, I think so, too.
H.M.JR: Isn't it a joint board, England, China,
and ourselves?
MR. WHITE: Yes.
H.M.JR: I think you ought to talk a little bit about
it and bring in England, because they are going to read
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in tomorrow morning's papers, that England is making
an offer.
MR. WHITE: Well, we can say, "Under that arrange-
ment the Chinese Government" --
(The Secretary held a telephone conversation with
Congressman Sol Bloom as follows:)
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February 2, 1942
3:42 D.M.
"ello,
Congressmen Bloom.
Hello.
Sol
Vello, Henry.
loo :
You are you?
All right.
""Jr:
Sol
Yeah
to I understand that this meeting tomorrow 18 going
to be an executive session?
Yes, sir! ^bsolutely!
Yes, sir, huh?
With the - with the understanding in advance that
every member present 1s accusinted with the fact
that it is an executive session and anything that's
cold there 18 absolutely confidential.
Good. I VAR just working on my statement.
oh, yes, yes, yes,
Cood. Now let me ASK you something else, if I may.
Ah
Did you get the other three cabinet members?
Jesse Jones seid he'd be here at ten, and Cordell
Full - he said that, of course, it'd depend upon
how he felt.
Th-huh.
He seid he's having his statement prepared, and I
told him he could feel just as good or bad UD here
AB he could any other place, and I'm waiting to
hear from Stimson. yow how about Knox?
Why, I think It'd be good !
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R:
Well, I'll try and get him then. I
myr:
I not a letter from him on it. I think it'd be
mood!
P:
All right, I'll try and get him.
"Jr:
Yeah, after all he's got as much interest as
anybody.
=:
Yes. Well, I'll try and get him, and T'm waiting
to hear from Stimson. He's in the meeting unstairs,
but they're going to call me right back.
"Jr:
Well, Stimson ought to come because he's been very
much interested.
7:
Yes, well, I'm going to
UMJr:
And I think your suggestion of Knox would be
excellent.
P:
All right, I'll get Knox right away.
"Wr:
Thank you.
R:
All right, Henry.
""Jr:
Goodbye.
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H.M.JR: I felt like saying, "Donsld Duck" to you
when he said "Yes, sir." I don't know whether he had
ssen our picture or not.
MR. KUHN: "I will do anything, anything."
H.M.JR: "Anything, yes, sir." I think I am up
to you now, Ferdie. I think I have seen it nine times.
I would bring the English in at the bottom of seven.
MR. WHITE: Yes, sir, we will put the English in
on the bottom of seven.
H.M.JR: I have two criticisms. I think you slur
over this Lend-Lease too much.
MR. FOLEY: I thought we ought to give those figures
because there isn't anybody down there that will be able
to give them except you, unless they want to call Stettinius.
H.M.JR: I think you slur over that too much, and
then at the end, oh boy, oh boy, oh boy, as Donald Duck
says. Common ef ort. Noteworthy demonstration not to
the people of the world, but the Axis, that United Nations
stand together.
MR. VINER: You are right, that is right. After
all --
H.M.JR: Not the people but - it says notice to
the Axis, but we are serving notice on the Axis, and the
thing, if you get over to the Japanese on their fifth
columnists. I mean, you see their activities and their
infiltration of puppet governments and so forth and so
on, you see, that the place to look to are the other
members of the United Nations, and not to the Axis for
financial help. See, boys? That is what we are doing.
We are saying to the United Nations that we won't leave
B. stone unturned or 8 dollar unavailable to 8 member of
the United Nations to see this thing through, and they
should look to us and not to the Axis. O.K., Professor
Kuhn.
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MR. WHITE: Do you want to mention the British -
news that the British are going to give --
H.M.JR: Sure. They are going to ask us that, any-
way.
MR. VINER: You ought to have the text there in
case they ask you.
H.M.JR: That is right. How about it, Professor
Kuhn?
MR. KUHN: I would only make a couple of suggestions.
On page two where you talk --
H.M.JR: That isn't enough, a couple of suggestions.
MR. KUHN: You talk about the common enemy. Why not
make it "our common enemy?" Because I miss in here
particularly at the beginning the sense that we and the
Chinese are together in the same war.
H.M.JR: Yes.
MR. KUHN: One place you can get that in is at the
top of page two, third line, "the defeat of our common
enemy, and then the sixth line, "in the war against our
enemy."
H.M.JR: what are you doing between now and five
o'clock?
MR. KUHN: I am free.
H.M.JR: Why don't you put an hour on this?
MR. KUHN: And also I would suggest at the very
beginning where you say, "The effective continuance of
the Chinese military effort depënds largely," and so
on, "that military effort is of invaluable help to
ourselves at this very moment," and something to that
effect, I think should be said.
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H.M.JR: That is right. Well, I think you could
very well put an hour - when do you go to the MacLeish
meeting?
MR. KUHN: Five fifteen.
H.M.JR: If between now and then - I don't know
what else you have got. Is Donald Duck taking care of
himself?
MR. KUHN: He is, yes, sir.
H.M.JR: I think that is an excellent start. I
would like another crack at it. I will be down here
tomorrow morning at nine, and I could make a few
changes if necessary.
MR. WHITE: This can be finished before tonight.
H.M.JR: I won't get another chance.
MR. FOLEY: It won't be necessary to mimeograph
this, will it?
H.M.JR: No.
MR. KUHN: Is it going to be issued publicly?
H.M.JR: No.
MR. KUHN: Could it be? There is nothing in it
which couldn't be.
MR. WHITE: We wrote it with that in mind, 80 that
in case you wanted it.
MR. VINER: Some day of course it will come out.
As we polish this up, shall we or may we send copies to
the other participants?
H.M.JR: I wish you would.
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MR. VINER: And tell them it is 8. tentative draft,
subject to further change.
H.M.JR: And if they have any suggestions, please
call up.
MR. KUHN: Wouldn't it be good to get this out
publicly at this time? Is there anything in it that
is secret or harmful?
H.M.JR: Well, I imagine what will happen is that
8 man like Bloom will say to our boys, prepare statements,
you see, for him when he goes before the committee --
MR. BELL: When he goes on the floor.
H.M.JR: Yes, and he will take the best of Hull,
Knox, Stimson, and Jones, and mine and our boys will
most likely have to whip it in shape and give him a
statement to make.
MR. BELL: Or write 8. report for him.
MR. VINER: If we were to release this and the
others come without prepared statements it would be
had.
MR. WHITE: After we have told them it was this
kind of a meeting it would seem 8 little bit --
H.M.JR: I think it is better to get A statement
for the chairman of the committee to get.
MR. KUHN: It is 80 good it is a shame to waste
it.
MR. WHITE: Here is a memo indicating the five or
six suggestions of how the money could be used.
H.M.JR: All right. And then the other thing, I
think Lauch had better go up with us tomorrow and sit
there.
MR. WHITE: All right. Shall I ask him?
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H.M.JR: I wish you would. Tell him that I suggested
it. What else?
MR. WHITE: Nothing, unless you want to glance at
any of those.
H.M.JR: No, thanks.
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The terms and conditions upon which China receives
this financial aid shall be those which the Secretary
of the Treasury under the direction of the President
deems satisfactory.
After the war the President shall determine the
precise terms for settlement of this financial aid.
In so doing he will deal with the matter as one of
adjustment between the United Nations taking into
account the declaration by the United Nations of
January 2, 1942, by which each Government pledges itself
to employ its full resources, military or economic,
against those members of the Tripartite Pact and its
adherents with which such government is at war.
China on her part agrees to abide by the terms which
the President shall subsequently so determine.
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Draft
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DRAFT STATEMENT FOR SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY ON THE
JOINT RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SECRETARY OF THE
TREASURY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES TO RENDER FINANCIAL AID TO CHINA AND
FOR OTHER PURPOSES
The purpose of my appearance before this committee
1s to recommend favorable consideration of the joint
resolution to authorize the extension of financial assist-
ance to China up to the amount of $500 million.
This proposal 1s a war measure. The effective contin-
uance of the Chinese military effort depends largely upon
the strength of the economic structure of Free China. The
financing of the wer effort is 8. major war task of the Chinese
Government and the efficient performance of this task re-
quires that the Chinese financial and monetary system should
be made as strong 8.3 possible.
In the United Nations Declaration to which China and
the United States are signatories, each of the United Nations
solemnly pledged itself to use its full resources in the
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common war. Our financial resources are not only great,
but they can be made immediately to contribute to the
defeat of the common enemy. China's financial resources
are very limited in relation to the tasks which she has
assumed. If any part of our financial resources can be
of assistance to China in her war against the enemy, I am
sure that our people will want to see these resources put
to that use.
The Chinese have been fighting against the Japanese
for four and one-half years. They have not spared their
lives, their homes, their crops, their factories, or their
financial resources in this struggle. They have remained
free because they were willing to make these sacrifices.
The people of China are carrying on unceasing war against
the Japanese in front of and behind the Japanese lines.
The Chinese Armies are not only holding their lines, but
on widely separated fronts they are gathering their men
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and supplies to intensify their offensive. The Chinese
people have shown to us and to the whole word that a
people who will not be conquered cannot be conquered.
In waging this war China has well nigh performed
economic and military proteges. At the beginning of the
war Chinese people were engaged in creating a modern
sconomic and financial system. Great progress had been
made but the work was by no means complete. The Japanese
occupation stripped the National Government of the sources
which had accounted for 80 percent of her revenues. The
apparatus of the financial and money markets in the coastal
cities has fallen into the hands of the Japanese. The loss
of the International Settlement and Hong Kong since
December 7 has still further impaired the financial struc-
ture of the Free Government of China.
Under these circumstances the Chinese Government has.
faced a double financial burden. It had not only to expand
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their expenditures, but it also had to create a new finan-
cial system of banks in the unoccupied area. It is not
easy in peace-time to undertake great financial changes.
Considering the terrific obstacles with which the Chinese
Government has been and still is faced, it has succeeded
remarkably well in continuing its resistance to the enemy.
But neither they nor we can ignore the fact that the
Chinese financial and monetary system has been severely
strained in this undertaking. The budget is desperately
unbalances. Prices are rising rapidly and at an acceler-
ated rate. The accompanying economic and social conditions
are serious threats to the Chinese war effort. It would
be unwise for the United States to ignore these weaknesses
or to withhold any aid within its power.
On several occasions in the past the United States
Government has rendered financial assistance to China. In
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general that assistance was designed to finance the import
of goods both directly and indirectly by stabilising China's
rate of exchange. In these financial arrangements I have
found that the Chinese were extremely honorable in carrying
out any obligations which they assumed. They lived up to
the letter and spirit of every contract, took no actions
prejudicial to American interests and under the hardest
circumstances maintained the export of vital commodi ties
which the United States needed.
The Chinese Government has urgently requested that
we come to their financial support so as to enable them
to more effectively carry on their war effort. We have
been constantly informed as to the financial and economic
situation within China. It is clear from the information
received by our government that the granting of the finan-
cial assistance that is now being requested will make a
substantial contribution toward strengthening their domestic
economy.
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126
The Chinese Government has informed us that the finan-
cial aid which the proposed Joint Resolution would make
available could be used by it in a variety of ways to
strengthen the financial and economic situation within
China. Without attempting at this time to specify the par-
ticular, arrangements which would be entered into with China
and which would most effectively carry out the common
objectives of China and ourselves, we are fully satisfied
that arrangements can be worked out which will be of great
financial and economic help to the internal economy of
China, and will enable China more effectively to carry on
its war effort.
I think that you will be particularly interested in
the splendid record that the Government of China has main-
tained in the repayments of the loans we have already made,
notwithstanding the extremely difficult circumstances under
which she has been operating. The first financial assistance
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of $25 million which was granted to China in 1938, which
was to be liquidated by the proceeds of shipment to the
United States of tung oil. That shcedule has been more
than fulfilled to date. $23 million of the $25 million
has been repaid and, as a consequence of that arrangement,
we have been assured a stock of tung oil at reasorable
prices. As & result of this arrangement, our supply of
tung oil, which, as you know, serves many war needs, is
the largest in our history. Jesse Jones, no doubt, can
describe to you the gratifying way in which China has handled
the two loans totalling $45 million which the Export-Import
Bank made to China in 1939 and 1940.
You will recall that in December 1940 I obtained the
approval of the Congressional committees for the máking of
a $50 million stabilization arrangement with China. Under
that arrangement the Chinese governmental banks put up $20
million and the U. S. Treasury $50 million, the Chinese
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contribution to be a cushion for the U. S. contribution.
So far, the Chinese Stabilization Board has not called on
the United States for any portion of its Fund and has used
its own contribution for the management of its foreign ex-
change. I may say here, too, that the joint management of
that Fund gives us every hope that future sums made avail-
able to them will be used judiciously and effectively.
These arrangements are proving in practice to have
been well-designed for their specific purposes and to be to
the mutual advantage of both countries. They are designed,
however, to meet the specific problems involved in the flow
of goods to and from China and the attempt to stabilize the
foreign exchange value of the yuan. The provision for aid
to China under Lend-Lease will take care of supplying China
with the necessary imported war materials. The additional
assistance now proposed is much more comprehensive in scope
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and is designed especially to make possible a strengthen-
ing of the internal economic and financial structure of
China.
The passage of the Joint Resolution authorizing the
President to render financial aid to China, will be an
outstanding contribution to the common war effort and a
noteworthy demon stration to all the peoples of the world,
as well as those of China, that the United States stands
ready to support and assist their strivings and struggles
for independence with every weapon in its arsenal.
I hope that in the light of the foregoing, you will
see fit to give this Joint Resolution your prompt and whole-
hearted support.
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Following message telephoned to Mr. White by Mr. Pinsent,
February 2, 1942, at 2:05 p.m.
"His Majesty's Government are willing to make available
under a lend-lease arrangement all munitions and military
equipment which it is possible for them to supply.
"In addition, His Majesty's Government are informing
the Chinese Government of their willingness to lend to China
for war purposes an amount up to L50 million, at such time
and upon such terms as may be agreed between the two govern-
ments."
There was an introduction which Mr. Pinsent said he
didn't take down, regarding desire to cooperate with China.
He is not sure it has been released yet, but is being released
in London this evening.
131
Submitted by Soong to Hajr
2/2/92 mating
at 3:05
The terms and conditions upon which China receives this
financial aid shall be those which the Secretary of the Treasury
under the direction of the President deems satisfactory.
After the war the President shall determine the precise
terms for settlement of this financial aid. In so doing he will
deal with the matter as one of adjustment between the United Nations
taking into account the declaration by the United Nations of
January 2, 1942, by which each Government pledges itself to employ
its full resources, military or economic, against those members of
the Tripartite Pact and its adherents with which such government is
at war.
China on her part agrees to abide by the terms which the
President shall subsequently so determine.
132
February 2, 1942
3:54 p.m.
In the Star tonight, I notice that you say
EXJ:-T
the meeting between Jones and myself took
place on Saturday with the leaders. As a
matter of fact it only took place this morning.
Treaner
5amy:
oh, did it? Correct me, will you?
If the boys ask me, is it all right to correct
you?
XA
Oh, certainly. Please correct me.
M&Jr!
All right, thanks.
E!
Yeah. Thank you, Henry.
WIr:
Thank you.
Right, sir. I misunderstood it, I guess.
HWr:
Well.....
in
It was the other meeting Saturday with the
President.
MyJr:
Yeah, but that was just with the President.
Yeah, I know, and I suppose that's what I had
in my mind.
HMJr:
Because some of them might - the leaders might
sey, "Well, hell, Jones and Morgenthau just have
had a secret meeting."
F:
Yeah, that's right. Correct me.
SHIPS
I'11 do that.
51
Thank you, sir.
DWr:
Thank you.
E)
Good-bye.
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FE3 2 weter
United Press News Item
President Receivelt saked Congress to approve
A $500,000,000 loan to China.
444 Chinese Loan
Mr. Roosevelt nade the request in & letter to
Speaker Rayburn asking that Congress approve the
necessary appropriation and suabling legislation
for the $500,000,000 loan.
White House Secretary Early disclosed that
Secretary Morgenthan and Administrator Jones not
Saturday with Republican and Democratic Congressional
leaders and presented the plan for the loan.
From the conference came an agreement by leaders
of both parties en the request and Reyburn was 83-
peeted to have a resolution introduced in the House
immediately, Marly said.
2/2-21130A 3-0
Copy:ve:2-2-42
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Notes
134
F, District
February 2, 1942.
United Press News Item
Add China Lean
The letter also was sent to Vice President Vallase who said
he believed the legislation would be introduced first in the House.
Mr. Roosevelt's letter said:
"Respensible officials both of this Government and of the Govern-
next of China, have brought to NY attention the existence of urgent
need for the imediate extension so China of esenomic and financial
assistance, going beyond in amount and different in form from such
aid M Congress has already authorised. I believe that such addi-
tional assistance would serve to strengthen China's position as 10-
gards both her internal economy and her capacity in general to fune-
tion with great military effectiveness in our common effort.
"I urge, therefore, the passage by Congress of appropriate
legislation to this effect and attach herete a suggested draft of
a joint resolution which will accomplish this purpose."
Speaker Rayburn announced that the Chinese sid Resolution would
be considered by the House by Wednesday.
Chairman Bloom of the Foreign Affairs Committee, introduced
the resolution shortly after the House not and pleased to hold
hearings temorrov.
2/2--21213P
Copy:vwi2-2-48
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OFFICE OF
135
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
February 2, 1942
TO:
THE SECRETARY OF THE NAVY
FROM: THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
Appended is 8. copy of the
statement I propose to make to the
House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
I would appreciate any suggestions
you may care to make.
As you know, the Committee
will meet in executive session at
10:00 Tuesday morning.
OFFICE OF
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY 136
February 2, 1942
TO:
THE SECRETARY OF COMMERCE
FROM:
THE SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY
Appended is 8. copy of the
statement I propose to make to the
House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
I would appreciate any suggestions
you may care to make.
As you know, the Committee
will meet in executive session at
10:00 Tuesday morning.
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137
February 2, 1942
TO:
SECRETARY STIMSON
FROM:
SECRETARY MORGENTHAU
Appended is a copy of the
statement I propose to make to the
Louse Committee on Foreign Affairs.
I would appreciate receiving any
suggestions you may care to make.
As you know, the Committee
will meet in Executive Session at
10 Tuesday morning.
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= 138
1
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February 2, 1942
TO:
SECRETARY HULL
FROM: SECRETARY MORGENTHAU
Appended is a copy of the
statement I propose to make to the
House Committee on Foreign Affairs.
I would appreciate receiving any suggestions
you may care to make.
As you know, the Committee will meet
in Executive Session at 10 Tuesday morning.
139
STATEMENT FOR SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY on THE
JOINT RESOLUTION TO AUTHORIZE THE SECRETARY OF THE
TREASURY WITH THE APPROVAL OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE
UNITED STATES TO RENDER FINANCIAL AID TO CHINA AND
FOR OTHER PURPOSES
The purpose of my appearance before this committee
is to recommend favorable consideration of the Joint
Resolution to authorize the extension of financial assist-
snoe to China up to the amount of 8500 million.
This proposal is a war measure. The affective contin-
uance of the Chinese military effort -- 60 invaluable in
our fight against the Axis powers -- depends largely upon
the strength of the economic structure of Free China. The
financing of the war effort is & major war task of the
Chinese Government and the efficient performance of this
task requires that the Chinese financial and monetary system
should be made as strong as possible.
In the United Nations Declaration to which China and
the United States are signatories, sach of the United Nations
solemnly pledged itself to use its full resources in the
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140
common war. No have large financial resources. China's
financial resources are very limited in relation to the
tasks which it has undertaken. If any part of our financial
resources can be of assistance to China in the war against
our common enemy, I am sure that our people will want those
resources put to that use.
The Chinese have been fighting against the Japanese
for four and one-half years. They have not spared their
lives, their homes, their farms, their factories, or their
financial resources in this struggle. They have remained
free because they were willing to make these sacrifices.
The people of China are carrying on unceasing war against
the Japanese in front of and behind the Japanese lines.
The Chinese Armies are not only holding their lines, but
on widely separated fronts they are gathering their men and
supplies to intensify their offensive. The Chinese people
have demonstrated to the whole world that a people who will
not be conquered cannot be conquered.
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141
In waging this war China has performed economic and
military miracles. At the beginning of the war the
Chinese people were engaged in creating a modern economic,
financial and currency system. The Japanese occupation
stripped the National Government of the sources which had
accounted for 80 percent of her revenues. To make matters
worse the apparatus of the financial and money markets in
the coastal cities fell into the hands of the Japanese.
since December 7. the fall of Heng Kong and the complete
loss of the International Settlement have still further in-
paired the financial structure of the Free Government of
China.
In these circumstances the Chinese Government had to
bear a double financial burden. It had not only to expand
its expenditures, but it also had to create a new financial
and banking system in the unoccupied srea. It is not easy
even in pease-time to carry out such changes. Considering
DR
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142
the terrifie obstacles with which the Chinese Government
has been and still is confronted, it has succeeded amasingly
well in continuing its resistance to the enemy.
We must face the fast, however, that the Chinese fin-
moial and monetery system has been severely strained in
the process. The budget is desperately unbalanced. Prices
are rising rapidly and at an accelerated rate. The accom-
panying esonomic and social dialocations are serious threats
to the Chinese war effort. It would be unwise for the
United States to ignore these weaknesses or to withhold
any aid within its power.
on several occasions in the past the United States
Government has rendered financial assistance to China. In
general that assistance was designed to finance the import
of goods and to help stabilise the exchange position of
China's currency. In these financial arrangements China
has made payments on schedule and even ahead of schedule.
D-2
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143
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And, under the most difficult circumstances, they have
maintained the export to the United States of commodities
vital to our war effort. Indeed, the Government of China
has carried out to the letter every obligation to us
which it has assumed.
The Chinese Government has now urgently requested that
we come to their financial support 50 as to enable them
more effectively to carry on their war effort. We have
been constantly informed as to the financial and economic
situation within China. That information makes clear that
the granting of the financial assistance now being requested
would make a substantial contribution toward strengthening
=
the domestic economy of China.
The Chinese Government has informed us that the finan-
cial aid which the proposed Joint Resolution would make
available could be used by it in & variety of ways to strengthen
the financial and economic situation within China. without
D-2
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144
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attempting at this time to specify the particular arrange-
ments which would be entered into with China and which would
most effectively carry out the comon objectives of China
and curselves, we are fully satisfied that arrangements can
be worked out which will be of great financial and economic
help to the internal economy of China and will enable China
more effectively to earry on its war effort.
I think that you will be particularly interested in
the splendid record that the Government of China has main-
tained in the repayments of the loans we have already made,
notwithstanding the extremely difficult circumstances under
which she has been operating. Mr. Jesse Jones, no doubt,
can describe to you the gratifying way in which China has
handled the loan which the Export-Import Bank has made to
China.
You will recall that in December 1940, with the approval
of the Congressional committees, I made a $50 million
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145
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stabilisation arrangement with China. A similar arrange-
ment was más to China by the British. Under these arrange-
ments, the Chinese governmental banks put up $20 million,
the British government put up 65 million, and the U. s.
Treasury #50 million, the Chinese contribution to be a
eushion for the U. S. contribution. So far, the Chinese
Stabilization Board has not called on the United states for
any pertion of the United States participation and has used
its own share for the mmagement of its foreign exchange.
I may say here, too, that the joint management of that Fund
gives us every hope that future suas made available to them
will be used judiciously and effectively.
As you know, this Government is giving very substantial
Lend-Lease aid to China. of course, because of the tremsmious
transportation difficulties, as well as the many-fold demands
on American war production, it will take time before the bulk
of this Lend-Lease commitment can be delivered to China.
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146
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These arrangements are proving in practice to have
been well-designed for their specific purposes end to be
to the matual advantage of both countries. They are
designed, however, to meet the specific problems involved
in the flow of goods to and from China, the stabilising of
the foreign exchange value of the yuan, and the supplying
of war material.
The additional assistance now proposed is much more
somprehensive in seope and is designed especially to make
possible a strengthening of the internal economic and
financial structure of China. Purthermore, this financial
aid is of a different character from the stabilization
loans and Expert-Import Bank loans referred to. The proposed
aid contemplated here should be regarded as the financial
counterpart of lend-leasing war materials. It is designed
to the same end - namely, the successful prosecution of
the war, and should be evaluated in the same terms.
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147
. , .
The passage of the Joint Resolution authorizing the
President to render financial aid to China, will be an out-
standing contribution to the common war effort. It will be
a demonstration to our friends and a warning to our enemies
that the United States stands ready with every weapon in
its arsenal to assist all who are joined with us in this
fight for freedom.
I hope that in the light of the foregoing, you will
see fit to give this Joint Resolution your prompt and whole-
hearted support.
D-2
HDW3 JVs BB:rel
2-2-42
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148
February 2, 1942.
Dear Archie:
It was very good of you to send me the facts
and figures contained in your letter of January 29th,
which I read with a great deal of interest. I was
also glad to have the word concerning Mr. and Mrs. Chen.
Thank you again for your comment on my part is
the aid that has been given to China. I shall always
be glad to have you keep se informed of your program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) R. Morgenthau, 898
Mr. Archie Lochhead,
President, Universal Trading
Corporation,
630 Fifth Avenue,
New York, New York.
GEF/dbs
149
UNIVERSAL TRADING CORPORATION
530 FIFTH AVENUE
NEW TORK. N.Y.
January 29th, 1942
Wg dear Mr. Secretary:
Since Pearl Harbor you may have wondered from time to
time how your train child, Universal Trading Corporation, has been
Caring. Accordingly I am writing you this brief report to keep you
posted to date.
Of the $25,000,000 wood oil credit maturing on December
31, 1943, we have borrowed $22,000,000 and have already repaid
$18,500,000. of the $20,000,000 tin credit maturing in installments
from two to seven years after each advance we have borrowed
$13,000,000, and have already repaid $2,200,000. I have no doubt
that the balance of both loans will be paid; and on time - unless
shipments of wood oil and tin are temporarily suspended because of
war developments.
In spite of almost insuperable difficulties, Mr. Chen has
managed to keep up exports from China of wood oil And tin. We have
just heard from our principals in Rangoon that they have succeeded
in loading 2,200 tons of wood oil there. Further shipments will be
made whenever space is provided by the United Status Maritime Com-
mission, upon which we must depend for ships.
While we are naturally proud of this record, we take
grester satisfaction from knowing that our efforts have substantial-
ly contributed to the national defense program. For the past nine
months we have worked closely with the O.P.M. and have acted unof-
ficially as their agent in supplying all urgent requirements of wood
oil to manufacturers engaged in defense work. In addition, since
Pearl Harbor me have furnished the United States Navy 2,100 tons and
the Defense Supplies Corporation 5,500 tons for its strategic stock
File. After all these defense provisions we still hold 3,000 tons
which we are authorized to distribute to the defense trade under in-
structions from government authorities. The distribution of our tin
shipments is also carried out in close cooperation with the govern-
ment authorities.
You will be glad to hear that Mr. and Mrs. Chen were just
able to get away from Hongkong before its fall, and are now safe in
Chungking.
The great work for China which you undertook almost single-
tranded in 1938, is more deoply appreciated by the Chinese than you
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may realize, and really laid the ground for the close collaboration
now being worked out between the two allies. It should be a source
of great satisfaction to you as an American that your plans for help-
ing China have also been the means of obtaining strategic materials
which otherwise would have been lacking for the United States war ef-
fort.
With kindest personal regards, I remain
Yours sincerely,
Archie Lochhead
The Honorable
Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Secretary of the Treasury
Washington, D. C.
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February 2, 1942
11:15 a.m.
HMJP:
Hello.
Stephen
Scingorn:
Mr. Secretary,
5MJrT
Yes.
5:
Stephen Spingarn.
-Mir:
Yes.
Br
You know I'm handling the Treasury end of the
war powers bill on the Hill.
EXJe:
Yes,
5:
I'm at the House Judiciary Committee now, and
you know that provision of the bill that removes
the restriction on the Federal Reserve Banks of
buying direct from the Treasury
HNJr:
Yeah.
5:
The suggestion has been made by the Chairman that
he's received advice from certain cuarters that
the Treasury 1s against that. I told him that
my information has been that while the division
is soonsored by the Federal Reserve, the Treasury
has no objection, and Oscar Cox had told me that
he had cleared it with you.
HWr:
Not only have we no objection, but I've told the
press about a week ago that I WAS for it.
2:
That's right. And I told the Committee that I
would check with you and get that confirmation.
(XJr:
Now I told the press that I was for it.
69
Right.
Wr:
And I - that's over 8 week or ten days ago,
(ii
Right. Well, I'll report that back to the
Committee.
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HMJr:
Okay.
S:
Thank you, sir.
153
February 2, 1942
4:37 p.m.
Leon Henderson: Hello. This 18 Leon.
HMJr:
Hello, Leon.
H:
Remember the other day you had some information
that Archangel was open?
MJr:
Yes.
H:
Well, I checked today with Robeson. He eaid
our Naval Attache there reported that on Friday
it was still frozen, and not only that but one
of the two big ice-breakers they had relied on
had been bombed.
HMJr:
Well, I've been kidded before. Evidently they
been kidding me again.
H:
Well, I asked - do you know Robeson at all?
HMJr:
No.
H:
Robeson 18 - if you want anything - he's the
fellow that handles the emergency shipping.
HMJr:
Yeah.
#:
When you want accurate information, I've found
this over a period of time, that that fellow 18
a - he's in the Maritime, you know
HMJr:
Yeah, I know.
41
and he's a swell operator, and he's very
clean-cut about what he has to say.
HMJr:
Good.
He said they sent out everything that they could -
that was available to take - to Russia last month.
HMJr:
Yeah.
That he had some boate available and nothing
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to go, and he sent coal to South America with
them rather than see them sit around.
HMJr:
Yeah.
H:
And about seventeen actually landed and about
thirty-two went out of here.
HMJr:
I see.
H:
And when you want anything - I suggest you take
his name down and
HMJr:
I have.
H:
And when you get a little thing like that, you
might check with him.
HMJr:
I think it's a good idea.
H:
Because otherwise they may kid you and
HMJr:
That's possible.
H:
that's the last thing in the world that
you ought to be done to.
HMJr:
Righto.
H:
All right, Henry.
HMJr:
Thank you.
M:
Good-bye.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
155
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE FEB 2 1942
Secretary Morgenthau
TO
FROM E.H. Foley, Jr.
Re: Luscombe Airplane Corporation
Pursuant to your approval, an investigation of the
records and personnel of the Luscombe Airplane Corpora-
tion at Trenton, New Jersey, was begun on Monday,
February 2.
The investigating staff is headed by James M.
Williamson, Chief of the Alcohol Tax Division of the
Office of Chief Counsel of the Bureau of Internal Revenue.
In addition to guards and stenographers, Mr. Williamson
will be assisted by the following personnel:
Lawrence Lesser, attorney
George E. McMurray, Jr., attorney
Frank H. Coe, investigator from Erwin May's
staff
Morris F. Kahn, engineer and investigator
from the Bureau of Internal
Revenue.
9.10.76
OK.
m.h.
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156
FEB 2 1942
My dear N. Secretary:
You will be interested to know that & Treasury
Department staff has begun an investigation of the
records and personnel of the Luscombe Airplane Corpora-
tion, at Trenton, New Jersey.
information at present available to the Treasury
Deyartment indicates that & substantial part of the stock
of the Luscombe Airplane Corporation 1s owned or controlled
by a. foreign national, one Leopold £lots. Accordingly,
the Corporation is under the freezing control of the
Treasury Department.
The har Department will be kept advised of the
progress and the resulte of this investigation.
Tery truly yours,
(Signed) 1. Margesthan, 11.
Secretary of the Treasury.
The Nonorable
The Secretary of war.
nm.
copies tabley
by X Highing 6:25
Ws:1hh 1-31-42
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157
FEB 2 1942
By dear Mr. Secretary:
You will be interested to know that & Treasury
Department staff has begun an investigation of the
records and personnel of the Luscombe Airplane Corpora-
tion, at Trenton, New Jersey.
Information at present available to the Treasury
Department indicates that a substantial part of the stock
of the Luscombe Airplane Corporation is owned or controlled
by a foreign national, one Leopold Klotz. Accordingly,
the Corporation is under the freezing control of the
Treasury Department.
The Navy Department will be kept advised of the
progress and the results of this investigation.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) 1. Horgesthau. 39.
Secretary of the Treasury.
The Monorable
The Secretary of the Savy.
n.m.c.
capis to Jaley
WS:1hh 1-31-42
By Messenger Hiphine
5:25
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158
FEB 2 1942
My dear Mr. Chairman:
You will be interested to know that a Treasury
Department staff has begun an investigation of the
records and personnel of the Luscombe Airplane Cor-
poration, at Trenton, New Jersey.
Information at present available to the Treasury
Department indicates that a substantial part of the
stock of the Luscombe Airplane Corporation is owned
or controlled by a foreign national, one Leopold Klotz.
Accordingly, the Corporation is under the freezing
control of the Treasury Department.
The Civil Aeronautics Board will be kept advised
of the progress and the results of this investigation.
Very truly yours,
(Signed) 1. Wergenthaw, 300
Secretary of the Treasury.
Hon. L. Welch Pogue,
n.m.c.
Chairman,
Civil Aeronautics Board,
capiro w Foley
Washington, D. C.
By Messenger Hopbins 5:25
DJS:EHFJr. :vls - 2/2/42
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159
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Washington
FOR
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Press Service
Monday, February 2, 1942
The Treasury Department announced today that
& staff of Treasury representatives under J. M. Williamson,
of the Office of the General Counsel of the Treasury
Department, has begun an investigation of the records and
personnel of the Luscombe Airplane Corporation at Trenton,
lieu Jersey. The corporation is under the freezing control
of the Treasury Department.
(Initialed) B. I. 1., Jr.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
Washington
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE,
Press Service
Monday, February 2, 1942.
No. 30-5
The Treasury Department announced today that a staff of
Treasury representatives under J. M. Williamson, of the Office
of the General Counsel of the Treasury Department, has begun
an investigation of the records and personnel of the Luscombe
Airplane Corporation at Trenton, New Jersey.
The corporation is under the freezing control of the
Treasury Department.
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Secretary Morgenthau
TO:
The purpose of the attached mem-
orandum is to familiarize you with
matter which will probably be
ralsed at Cabinet meeting by the
Attorney General in the near fu-
ture: the proposed creation of &
general governmental committee to
consider charges of un-American
activities against Government em-
ployees and make advisory recom-
mendations to agency heads involved.
The proposal is patterned after the
Treasury Un-American Activities
Committee set-up.
As I have indicated in the at-
tached memorandum, it is my recom-
mendation that the Treasury support
the proposal, which will afford
assurances that both Government and
employee interests will be consid-
ered in the disposition of these
cases, and will provide some degree
of uniformity in the treatment of
atters which are now handled in
widely disparate fashion in dif-
ferent agencies.
MR. FOLEY
Uncle
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER-OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE FEB 2 1942
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM Mr. Foley
At my request, Spingarn recently attended 8. number
of interdepartmental conferences on ways and means of
handling charges of un-American activities against Fed-
erel personnel so as to protect both the interests of the
Government and the basic rights of the employee in each
case. Participating in these conferences have been chief
law officers of various Government agencies including Jim
Rowe of Justice, Jerry Reilly of the Labor Board, Warner
Gardner, the Solicitor of the Labor Department, Telford
Taylor, the General Counsel of the Federal Communications
Commission, and others.
The matter arose as a result of the list of almost
two thousand alleged communists that Representative Dies
sent the Attorney General a few months ago. The F.B.I. has
been investigating each of these cases, and the question
non arises as to what should be the procedures for handling
the investigation reports when they are completed. The con-
ferees, however, agreed that the problem was larger than
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this, that cases were continually arising in each of the -
agencies in which such charges were made against employees.
The present methods of handling these cases differ widely.
In some agencies persons so charged have been fired out of
hand without any notice or hearing. Other agencies have
proceeded more judicially in these cases. Spingarn explained
the Treasury Un-American Activities Committee set-up, and
there was general agreement that this represented an admirable
solution of the problem.
After considerable discussion, the conferees came to
the conclusion that the best thing to do was to establish
a general governmental committee to deal with these cases.
The committee would be composed of both Government officers
and public members: the public members to be retired judges,
leading members of the bar, and other persons whose character
and fairness would command general respect; the Government
members to be officers of similar character who would not be
vulnerable to attack on the ground that they were fellow
travelers or had radical associations. The committee would
be large enough 80 that it could operate by subcommittee and
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in the field. It would consider the investigation reports
in the cases referred to it, hold hearings when justified,
and report its findings and recommendations to the appro-
priate agency head in connection with each case. Such
recommendations would be purely advisory, however (and
indeed could not be legally otherwise), and the agency
head could then retain or fire the employee involved as
he saw fit.
Because of his experience with the Treasury Un-American
Activities Committee, Spingarn was asked to prepare & draft
of an Executive Order establishing such committee, and I
attach a copy of the Order he prepared. It establishes an
"Advisory Committee on Subversive Activities" to be ap-
pointed by the President and requires all agencies except
Army and Navy to refer to the committee all cases now pend-
ing or which may hereafter arise in such agencies in which
charges of un-American activities have been made against an
officer or an employee. After appropriate consideration in
accordance with procedures which it is to establish (which
are required by the Order to be so framed as to further the
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best interests of the Government in time of war and
adequately to protect the essential rights of accused
officers and employees), the committee is to transmit
its findings and communications to the appropriate agency
head who is not bound by them but can follow them or not
as he sees fit. Agency heads, moreover, are expressly
authorized to transfer or suspend accused officers or
employees at any time before or after their cases may
be referred to the committee. For obvious reasons the
War and Navy Departments are not required (as are the
other agencies) to refer their cases to the committee,
but they are authorized to do so if they wish.
The proposed Executive Order has now received the
approval of all the conferees. The Attorney General is
expected to bring the matter up for discussion at Cabinet
meeting in the near future.
I recommend for your consideration that the Treasury
support the proposal. It is true that the Treasury is
handling its own cases without the trouble that some of
the other agencies are experiencing. Our Un-American
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Activities Committee has received general approbation.
(See, for example, Jerry Kluttz's column in the Washington
Post of November 26, 1941, which after the statement that
"Treasury Secretary Morgenthau is credited with supplying
a practical answer to a very delicate problem" briefly
describes our set-up). However, I don't think that be-
cause we have been able to handle our own cases without
too much trouble we should refrain from helping other
agencies which have been less fortunate. A general gov-
ernmental committee along the lines indicated would pro-
vide a very desirable degree of uniformity in the treat-
ment of these cases and would give assurance that in the
disposal of these cases consideration would be given both
to the interests of the Government and those of the employee.
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EXECUTIVE ORDER
ESTABLISHING AN ADVISORY COMMITTEE TO CONSIDER
CHARGES OF SUBVERSIVE ACTIVITIES MADE AGAINST
OFFICERS AND EMPLOYEES OF THE UNITED STATES.
By virtue of and purusnat to the authority vested in me as
President of the United States by the Constitution and statutes
of the United States, and in order to provide for more uniform
consideration and disposition of charges of subversive activities
against officers and employees of the United States with due regard
to the best interests of the United States in its war efforts and
the essential rights of officers and employees against whom charges
are made, it is hereby ordered 85 follows:
1. There in hereby established in the Executive Office of the
President an Advisory Committee on Subversive Activities (hereafter
referred to as the Committee) to consider charges of subversive and
disloyal activities made against officers and employees of the
United States.
2. The Committee shall consist of a chairman and S. vice-
chairman, to be designated by the President, and such other members
representing the Government and the public as the President may
from time to time hereafter appoint.
3. It shall be the duty of the Committee, in accordance with
such procedures as it may prescribe, to consider any case referred
to it (1) by the head of any department, agency or corporation of
the United States in the Executive branch of the Government (hereafter
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referred to as agency head and agency, respectively), based upon
charges against a civilian officer or employee of such agency
that such officer or employee is disloyal or advocates, or is a
member of an organisation that advocates, the overthrow of the
Government of the United States by force or violence, or that
such officer or employee is otherwise engaged in subversive acti-
vities, or (2) any case referred to it by the Attorney General
based upon such charges against any civilian officer or employee
in any agency.
4a (a) Except as otherwise provided in subparagraph (b) of
this paragraph, each agency head is hereby directed to refer to
the Committee each case currently pending or which may hereafter
come to his attention, in which charges of the character described
in paragraph 3 have been made against an officer or employee of
his agency, and the Attorney General is hereby directed to refer to
the Committee each case currently pending or which may hereafter
come to his attention in which such charges have been made against
an officer or employee of any agency: Provided, however, That no
case shall be referred to the Committee until an investigation of
the charges in such case has been made by the appropriate agency
or agencies. 1 copy of such investigation report or reports shall
be transmitted to the Committee at the same time that the case is
referred to it.
(b) Nothing in this Order shall apply to officers and enlisted
men of the military establishments or to civilian officers and em-
ployees of the War Department or the Navy Department (including the
Coast Guard) and their field services: Provided, however, That the
Secretary of War or the Secretary of the Navy my, in his discretion,
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refer any case involving a civilian officer or employee of his
Department to the Committee in accordance with the provisions of
this Order.
5. After appropriate consideration, the Committee shall trans-
sit its findings and recommendations to the appropriate agency
head, and (if the case was referred to the Committee by the Attorney
General) to the Attorney General. The findings and recommendations
shall be purely advisory in character and after their consideration
the agency head shall take such action, if any, 88 in his judgment
the circumstances require. The agency head may, however, transfer
or suspend such officer or employee at any time before or after the
case is referred to the Committee, if in his judgment such action is
necessary to protect the interests of the Government.
6. The Committee shall prescribe its procedures, but they
shall be framed so as to further the best interests of the Govern-
ment in time of war and adequately to protect the essential rights
of officers and employees against whom charges have been made. The
Committee may act through subcommittees of one or more members,
and may appoint persons not members of the Committee to act as
members of field subcommittees outside the District of Columbia,
and such persons and field subcommittees shall have all the rights,
posers, and privileges of regular members end subcommittees of the
Committee.
7. The Committee is hereby empowered to employ such persons
as it may deem necessary; to fix the compensation of such persons;
to incur all necessary expenses for services and supplies; and to
direct such travel of members end employees at public expense as
it may deem necessary in the accomplishment of its work, Members of
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the Committee shall serve without compensation in that capacity,
but each of the members of the Committee shall receive payment for
his actual end necessary expenses for transportation, and in addi-
tion a subsistence allowance of ten dollars per diem while away
from his official station in the case of governmental members, or
while away from his place of residence in the case of public members,
in connection with the work of the Committee. Employees of the
Committee shall receive such travel and other allowances as civilian
employees of the United States receive generally by law.
8. All of the expenses of the Committee shall be paid on
vouchers approved by the Chairman (or other person authorized by
the Committee) from allocations to be made to the Committee for
that purpose from the Emergency Fund for the President.
9. All executive officers and agencies of the United States
are hereby authorized to furnish the Committee such facilities,
services, and cooperation as it may from time to time request.
10. The Committee shall make a public report at least semi-
annually of its procedures, disbursements, and by general classi-
fication, the number and nature of cases referred to and handled
by it and the findings and recommendations therein.
THE WHITE HOUSE,
January
# 1942.
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The National Archibes
Welfington, B.C.
WILL DONCERNING THE FRANKLIN D. ROO&EVELT LIBRARY AT HYDE PARK, N. 1.
Papers recently transferred to the Franklin D. Roosevelt
Library by the President include letters, memoirs, and diaries of
various officers of the United States Navy, 1775-1898; Mr.
Roosevelt's diplomas and certificates of membership in various
organizations, 1905-41; copies of letters, reports, and memoranda
received by the Office of the Secretary of the Navy from naval units
and bureaus, 1913-20; and copies of the official stenographic reports
of the President's press conferences, January-June 1941. Material
recently acquired relating to the history of Dutchess County, N. Y.,
includes correspondence and other papers of the DePeyster family,
1697-1865, and diaries, notebooks, and bird-banding records kept
by Maunsell S, Crosby of Rhinebeck, N. Y., 1909-31.
The Second Annual Report of the Archivist of the United States
as to the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library (19 P.), just published,
describes the activities of the Library during the fiscal year
1940-21 and includes a descriptive list of material deposited in
the Library by the President or acquired by it from other sources
to June 30, 1941. Copies of the Report may be obtained from the
livision of Information and Publications of The National Archives,
asshington, D. C.
February 2, 1942
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SECOND ANNUAL REPORT OF THE
ARCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
AS TO THE
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
1940-1941
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THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES
+
SECOND ANNUAL REPORT OF THE
ARCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
AS TO THE
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
HYDE PARK, N.Y.
+
For the Fiscal Year Ending June 30
1941
THE PRESIDENT'S Room, FRANKIN D.
OF
SECURITY THE UNITED TENOLINA
THE 434 STATE
UNITED STATES
GOVERNMENT PRINTING OFFICE
WASHINGTON : 1942
THE FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
(As of November 15, 1041)
Sotox J. Buck-Archivist of the United States.
FRED W. Surmas-Director of the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library,
LETTER OF TRANSMITTAL
THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES,
Washington, D. O₂ November 15, 1941.
To the Congress of the United States:
In compliance with section 208, title II, of the joint resolution,
approved July 18, 1939 (53 Stat. 1062-1066), which requires the
Archivist of the United States to make to Congress "at the beginning
of each regular session, a report of the preceding fiscal year as to the
NATIONAL ARCHIVES PUBLICATION No. 10
Franklin D. Roosevelt Library," I have the honor to submit herewith
the second annual report on the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, which
covers work performed under the direction of my predecessor,
R. D. W. Connor, during the fiscal year ending June 30, 1941.
Respectfully,
Soton J. BUCK,
Archivist of the United States.
SECOND ANNUAL REPORT OF THE ARCHIVIST
OF THE UNITED STATES AS TO THE
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
Four days after the beginning of the fiscal year under review, on
July 4, 1940, the building for the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, then
virtually completed, was turned over to the Government of the United
States by the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, Inc., a nonprofit New
York corporation that had constructed it from funds privately sub-
scribed, and was accepted for the Government by the Archivist of
the United States, who is responsible for the administration of the
Library. During the year finishing touches were put on the building,
equipment was installed, and the grounds were landscaped, all with-
out cost to the Government; a small but well-qualified staff was
appointed; large quantities of manuscripts, books, and museum objects
were received, chiefly from the President; and the work of arranging
this material was begun. Sufficient progress in arrangement had been
made by the last day of the fiscal year to permit the opening to the
public of the exhibition rooms and museum portions of the building,
and accordingly, on June 30, the building was formally dedicated by
the President.
The institution that was thus made available to the American people
will serve primarily as a depository for the manuscripts, books, prints,
paintings, and other historical material accumulated by Franklin D.
Roosevelt. This material includes his public and personal papers
covering the years of his services as New York State senator, 1910-13,
as Assistant Secretary of the Navy, 1913-20, as Governor of New York,
1929-33, and as President of the United States; political material re-
lating especially to the Presidential campaigns of 1920, 1924, 1928,
1932, 1936, and 1940; letters, log books, and other manuscripts relat-
ing to American history, especially the history of the American Navy
since 1775, and paintings, drawings, prints, and models of many
famous American naval vessels; a small but valuable collection of ma-
terial relating to the history of the State of New York, and particularly
of Dutchess County; and flibrary of some 15,000 books and pamphlets,
some of them rare, many of them autographed copies from the authors,
and the great bulk of them important works for American history.
The Library hopes also to acquire by gift or deposit the papers of
other persons and organizations that have been influential during the
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period since 1910 and to build up a comprehensive collection of related
November 1940, and April 28, 1941, respectively; and Eleanor G,
books nind pumplets Thus there will be made available under Fed.
Metionagle, formerly cataloger in the library of Tutts College and
eral control and for the use of the public an extensive collection of
research secretary for the Mount Vernon Ladies Association, was
commer material relating to this important epoch in American history.
appointed junior arelivist and cataloger on November 12, 1940, This
BUILDING AND EQUIPMENT
professional staff was supplemented in the course of the year by the
appointment of a miseumit side, a secretary to the Director, two clerks,
When the U-shaped, Dutch colonial building of stoue, Set far back
and a laborer. As the Library is n. field agency of The National
Irom the New Albany Post Road on n. 16-acre traet deeded
Archive, the staff of the latter institution is used in commetion with
without cod to the Government by the President from the Rousevelt
oth administrative nutters as equipment, finances, and personnel.
Park estate, Was turned over to the Archivist on July 4, it was
Time professional work is organized along three distinct lines of
fac from ready for final occupaticy. In the months that followed the
activity (L5 determined by the three major types of material in the
remaining work was done and tenant changes" to increase the useful-
printed material, aud museum object-but no
the of the building were made, Stacks and shelves for the storage
professional worker on the staff will be restricted to any single one
of and books were already in place, but 35,000 fiber boxes
of the three lines of activity. Each worker will be expected to acquire
for the preservation of manuscript vaterial and a machine for the
IL general knowledge of all rosterial in the Library, and as the work on
playing of sound recordings of specebes and other historical wents
the mannecripts progresses he will be assignal a field of specialization,
were oldained. Cass, tables, shelves, and similar wi're
which will necessitate not only complete familiarity with relevant
purfussed or constructed for the misenm objects. Ontside the beritd-
portions of the Imldings of the Library but also an acquintance with
ings. Une grounds stound the Library were landscaped, a public patting
the extente location. and value of related materials, both manuscript
space. a ticket booth, and walks were constructed, and fences and signa
and printed, that may be in existence elsewhere, He will also be
were crected, All this work was done without cost to the Government
responsible for all the stéps in the arrangement and description of the
by the Franklin D. Roosvelt Library, Inc., working in close coopers-
materials in his immediate charge from the time of their receipt to
tion with the President, the Archivist, and the members of the Library
their tital analysis and description. To familiarize the staff further
citizens. staff and using funds donated by more than 28,000 public-spirited
with the techniques employed in the Library and the subject matter
of its holdings, il series of staff meetings was held during the year 05
pail of an in-service training program.
THE STAFF
To experyise the completion of the building and the installation of
MATERIAL RECEIVED
it- equipment and to care for the manuscripts. books, miseum objects,
As anon NS the Library building was turned over to the Govern-
and offer materials tliat were to come to the Library, the Archivist
ment, the President started sending material to it, and throughout
processed 500m after the beginning of the year to appoint a staff for
I'm year he continued to turn over material to the Library as rapidly
the Library, Fred W. Shipman, a member of the National Archites
n° il could be absorbed. No material for the collection was pur-
sinft since June 1935 and Chief of the Division of State Department
Archives sitire March 1936 and previously a research worker for flue
chased and only H. small quantity was received through gifts from
American Antiquation Society and n. historical expert in the Depart-
persons other than the Presilent. In accepting these gifts care was
exercised to observe the provision of the law creating the Library
ment of State, Wills appoired Director of the Library OR July 16.
Esten It, Nixon, also formerly employed N.F. il historical expert in the
that limits the material the Library may acquire from other sources
by gift, purchase. or loan to "historical books related to and other
Department of State in connection with the publication of the Terrie
tarlet Papers. Wills appointed associate arehivist at the Librury on
historical nuterial contemporary with and related to the historical
November I. James L. Whitchead. formerly State Supervisor of
material acquired from the donor." that is, from Franklin D. Rouse-
the WPA Survey of Federal Arelives in Pennsylvania, and John S.
vole, This provision wisoly prolibits the acquisition of items or
Curties, formorly urra project supervisor of the Historical Records
intrinsically interesting Last onrelated to the purposes to
Survey in Now York and instructor in history in several miurteipal
which the institution is dedicated.
collige in Now York City, were appointed assistant archivista OD
Manumeript the fiscal year 1941 approximately
2056 linear feet of mmmuscript material was received, 1,563 feet
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from the President and 493 feet from other sources. The papers
Gree(ings and Invitations. 1933-10. 69 feet. Birthday greetings, letters no
from the President fall into three groups relating respectively to
latter to the Birthday Balls, and enugratulations ou undversaries of the
his activities as a leader of the Democratic Party, as Governor of
President's elections and inaugurations and other ocrasions.
New York State, and as President. Papers in the last group crim.
Press runferences of the President- 1933-40. 16 volumes, typed. Carbon copies
of official stenographic reports.
prise about three quarters of the manuscripts received to date, and
Correspondence on the Bonus Bill. 1985. 11 foot. Letters opposing or sup-
of them only a few are concerned with the executive and policy.
porting the Palman Adjusted Service Certificate Bill.
making aspects of the Presidential office. Most of them consist of
Belief authorizations. 1935, 1 feet. Copies of letters from the President au-
letters to the President offering advice or criticism on national issues
thorizing the transfer of relief tunde to specific projecta.
or soliciting aid on matters of personal or local character.
Correspondence ou the Indiciary Reorganization Bill. 1037. 85 feet. Letters
in support of or opposing the Judiciary Reorganization Bill, divided pro and
The following are the groups of papers that have been received
coa, with copies of the President's replies,
from the President:
Third (erm currespondence. 1937-40. 37 feet. Letters to the President urging
Campaten currespondence. 1931. 10 feet, Relates to Mr. Roosevelt's service
or opposing Dis condidacy for a third term.
as chairmon of the New York State committee for the nomination of Alfred
Currespondence and papers of Louis McHenry Howe. 1918-20, 1980-36, ai feet.
This material relates to Howe's term of service as assistant to Assistant
EL Smith as Presidential candidate of the Democratic Party.
Secretary of the Navy Franklin D. Roosevelt and to his emeretaryship to
Compaign correspondence and papers. 1928-30. a feet, Chiefly letters n-
Mr. Boowell as Governor of New York and as President.
celved by Mr. Rousevelt Las his capacity as compaign matinger for Altrat EL
Smith during the Presidential compaign of 1028,
The following groups of papers have been received from the
Campaign correspondence 1028-33. 163 feet. Letters and telegrame to Mr.
persons, organizations, and agencies named at the beginning of the
Roomevelt from Democratic Party officiale and workers and from the
descriptions:
public, with enples of bis replies,
Personal correspondence while Governor of New York State, 1939-33, 46 Trell
Harry 4 Hopkins. Papers as Works Progress Administrator. 1933-38. 125
Compaign correspondence and papers. 1930-86. 20 fort. Financial records
feet
of the 1932 Democratie National Campaign Committee: 1036 election compaige
Mrs. Franklin D. Roosevelt. Correspondence. 1930-31. 2 feet.
literature; and analyses of the political struction in 1936,
Democratic National Committee. Patronage correspondence. 1988-40. 5 feet.
Addresses as Governor and President. 1930-40, 10 volumes, typed. Cartinn
Letters to the committee with reference to positions to the Government.
copies of official stenographie reports of the addresses
Democratic National Committee, Women's Division. Campaign records, cor-
Correspondence, 1982-38, 29 feet. Letters to Mr. Housevelt, for the bost part
respondence, and Ilterature. 1954-40. 34 feet.
from the general public, relating largely to the for the Presidential
National Committee of Independent Foiers. Campaign records and correspond-
nomination and election and to the Insuguration.
code 1036-40, 27 feet.
Addresses as Presidential caudidate and President, 1932-40, 22 Items Drafts
Commerce Department. National Recovery Administration documents 1933-96.
and final exples of the addresses of July 2, 1032, August 14, 1038, March 4,
230 feet. Copies of the codes formulated by the NRA, of the Executive
1037, and December 29, 1940, with corrections and additions in pencil in Mr.
orders of the President placing them in effect, and of histories of the making
Roosevelt's hand.
of the codes.
White House alphabetical file, 1933-30. 1,000 feet. Letters to the President
Interior Department, Bituminous Coal Division. Copy of the official record in
from the general public, with abstructs of letters forwarded to various
Dorket 15, presenting a detailed account of the Division's actions In establish-
agencies of the Government and of letters placed in other White House files,
Ing minimum prices and marketing rules and regulations. 1980-40. 67 feet.
and copies of replies,
Printed material.-The Library received 2,469 books and 673
President's personal file relating to gifts. 1933-87. 12 feet. Letters to the
President necompanying gifts, with copies of bis replies.
pamphlets from the President, including 359 books relating to the
Papers relating to trips of the President. 103-38. 14 feet. Correspondence
history of the United States Navy, 673 nineteenth century pamphlets
and memorands dealing with arrangements, (Hnerarles, speeches, Interviews,
and periodicals containing biographies of prominent American naval
and administrative matters.
men, 94 books on Dutchess County history, and 2,016 books on history,
Correspondence relating to raillo aidresses and messages. 1933-30. 17 fret.
economics, biography, and current affairs. Many of the President's
Letters commenting on the lesure touched upon in the President's speeches,
with copies of his replies.
books and pamphlets have added interest because they contain com-
Papers on national pulities. 1083-39. 0 feet. Letters, reports, and mens-
ments and notations in his hand or because they are inscribed copies
muta from Democratic Party leaders submitting analyses of the political
presented by the authors. In addition, 1,319 books and 10,242
struation throughout the country.
pamphlets, for the most part Government publications, were received
White House press releases. 1033-39. a feet. Chiefly mimeographed re-
from other sources. Thus the Library had acquired by the end of the
lesses: with sume hrief releases In typewritten form. and a number of memo
randa an the properation of the releases.
year 3,788 books and 10,915 pamphlets.
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Museum material.-In his long career the President has collected
or has had given to him hundreds of intiseum objects. During the
bouis formerly a part of the Rousevelt family library are kept in
year the Library received from the President naval prints and pir-
special groups, but all other printed material with the exception of
tures and ship models, which he had spent many years in collecting:
Government publications is being arranged in a single subject classi-
rore and beautiful items, such as oriental rugs, Chinese carvings,
fication based on that used by the Library of Congress. Printed Li-
Seandinavian glassware, and Arabic metal work, which had been
brary of Congress cards are used for cataloging whenever feasible,
given to him by friends and admirers from all over the world; and
but must of the books received from the President require special
hundreds of trinkets, souvenirs, relies, and curios, which had been
identification and cataloging to indicate such facts as the presence
sent to him by men, women, and children from all parts of the United
of his autograph, notations in his hand, or signatures by authors on
States us evidence of their vsteem and good will, By groups, this
presentation copies. The subject entries indicated on the Library of
material consisted of 161 nával prints and paintings and other pic-
Congress cards are supplemented by additional entries for all topics
tures; 113 ship models; 550 coins, medals, medallions, and pieces of
of importance within the Library's field of interest. Printed material
received from Government agencies is arranged alphabetically by the
jewelry; 51 walking sticks; 44 flags and pennants; 27 gavels; 18
names of the agencies, and checking cards have been made for docu-
paperweights; 14 vases; and 842 other objects of 11. miscellaneous
ments regularly issued. During the year the titles of the 2,469
cluracter. The holdings of the Librury were also enriched by the
looks received from the President were alphabetically listed, 302 titles
receipt from other sources of 32 pictures and 18 miscrllaneons objects.
reataloged, and 1,393 cards were prepared for the public catalog.
bringing the total number of museum objects received during the
Muscum material-A complete inventory was made of the 1,850
year to 1,850.
museum objects received by the Library during the year, and some
ARRANGEMENT AND DESCRIPTION OF MATERIAL
500 of these objects were chosen for initial display. The museum ex-
hibits will be rotated periodically to permit the display of the ma-
Manuscript material.-Most of the papers thus far received have
jerial not yet used and of new material that may be received. It is
been products of active, well-organized offices and were consequently
destrable for exhibite at the Library to be at once nautical, biographi-
well arranged in files at the time of the creation of the records. When
cul, artistic, and historical, in short, for them to bear the imprint of
such files are received, no attempt is made to change their arrange-
the President's interests and to be representative of his activities. It
ment; only files lacking identity or original arrangement or papers
was fortunate, therefore, that the President was able to play 11 large
obviously misfiled are arranged in the Library. The papers received
part in arranging the initial exhibit, particularly in the Naval Ex-
are therefore ordinarily removed from the filing cases, packing boxes,
hibition Room.
or other original containers, are supplied with new folders if nec-
The objects ou display are distributed through several rooms. In
essury, and are then placed in fiber boxes each of which holds approxi-
the Main Exhibition Room on the first floor a diversified collection of
nately Я Unear inches of material, The boxes are given identifying
objects is displayed in cases and cabinets, in the Naval Exhibition
Inbels and are laid flat on steel shelves, usually in rows two boxes high
Room on the same floor numérous ship models are on display, in
on each shelf,
the Oddities Room on the ground floor over 100 miscellaneous gifts
By the end of the year inventories based on careful examination
from the general public are placed on open shelves and tables, and in
and study of the papers had been made of all papers received from
another exhibition room nearby carriages, sleighs, and ice boats of
the President with the exception of his correspondence during the
the President and his family are placed; and in all these rooms, except
period of his governorship, and the following five groups of papers
the last, pictures suitable to their surroundings have been hung. In
of the President, amounting to 743 linear feet in all, had been labeled
accordance with standard museum practice, cards and labels identify-
and shelved: Correspondence, 1902-33; White House alphabetical file,
ing or explaining the significance of the objects on display are placed
1933-36 tin part); President's personal file relating to gifts, 1933-37:
with them.
Correspondence on the Bonus Bill, 1935: and Correspondence on the
Judiciary Reorganization Bill, 1987. The work of arranging and
RELATIONS WITH THE PUBLIC AND WITH OTHER INSTITUTIONS
describing the manuscript material had not progressed sufficiently
far, however, to permit its tise for research.
As might be expected, the Library has attracted the attention of
Printed material.-Books and pamphlets relating to the history of
the public at large because of its personal relationship to the Presi-
the United States Navy and to the history of Dutchess County and
dent of the United States. Representatives of newspapers have
Visited the Library from time to time and have written articles
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REPORT OF THE ARCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
9
about it, and many newspaper men, as well as newsree) photog-
FISCAL AFFAIRS
raphers, were present at the dedication of the Library. Even though
the Library was not opened to the general public, over 1,000 persons
The resolution establishing the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library
visited the building during the year. Among the earlier visitors
authorizes the Archivist to pay the expenses incurred by him in carry-
were persons of national and international importance, as well as
ing out his duties with respect to the Library from the appropriations
many professionally interested individuals, including librarians from
for The National Archives and requires him to submit to Congress
the New York State extension service and members of the Society
annually a detailed statement of the receipts and expenditures on
of American Archivists. Distinguished foreign visitors included
account of the Library. The expenses incurred by the Archivist for
Crown Princess Martha of Norway, His Excellency the Earl of
the Library during the fiscal year 1941 were accordingly paid from
Athlone, Governor General of Canada, Her Royal Highness Princesa
the appropriations for The National Archives contained in the In-
Alice, and W. L. Mackenzie King, the Prime Minister of Canada.
dependent Agencies Appropriation Act, 1941, approved April 18,
From the interest ovidenced thus far it seems likely that the visitors
1940 (Public, No. 459, 76th Cong.). Expenditures and obligations
to the Library will number in the thousands annually.
for the Library during the year, insofor as it is possible to segregate
The general public will be admitted to the exhibition rooms and mu-
them, totaled $23,405, as indicated in the following statement:
seum portions of the building beginning with the first day of the new
Obligations and expenditures for the flocal year ending June 30, 1941
fiscal year. These portions of the building will be open Tuesdays to
Saturdays inclusive from 9:30 0. III, to 5 p. ni., and Sundays and
and expenses
holidays (including any holiday that falls on Monday) from 11
Personal services
$15,016
Supplies and material
1, .019
д. m. to 5 p. m. An admission fee of 25 cents will be charged all
Communication service
2, 2N9
visitors except those under 12 years of age, but no fees will be charged
Travel expense
1, 784
for the use of books and papers in the Library when they are made
Transportation of things
3
available to investigators. The funds so collected are administered
Repairs and alterations
70
Special and miscellaneous
80
for the benefit of the Library by the Archivist Under the provi-
sinns of the resolution establishing the Library, gifts and bequesta
Equipment
2, 527
to it of personal property may be received and administered us trust
Total miaries and expenses
$22,788
funds by a Board of Trustées composed of the Archivist and the
Printing and binding
017
Secretary of the Treasury as es officio menubers and five others ap-
$23,405
pointed by the President for life. The President has appointed
Basil O'Connor, Frank C. Walker, Harry L. Hopkins, and Samuel E,
Funds for the operation of the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library for
filled. Morison ns trustees, and one vacancy on the board remains to be
the fiscal year 1942 were provided in the appropriations for The
National Archives in the Independent Agencies Appropriation Act,
Other institutions have been especially helpful in the work of the
1942, approved April 5, 1941 (Public, No. 28, 77th Cong.).
Library. The Library of Congress has supplied bibliographies and
catalog cards, subject headings lists, classification schedules, and vari-
ous other tools used in cataloging and has otherwise been of material
aid The Vassar College Library and the Adriance Memorial Li-
brary of Poughkeepsie have been extremely helpful in lending books
and answering inquiries, Too much cannot be said of the assistance
rendered by the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, Inc., which, ns
mentioned earlier in the report, has borne most of the expenses
involved in furnishing and equipping the building and in providing
the landseaping and other necessary work on the grounds.
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
11
torical material as shall be donated by the donor. The Archivist
Roosevelt Library, as D gift from the donor, such collection of his-
also acquire for the said Library from other sources, by gift,
APPENDIX I
material contemporary with and related to the historical material
parchase, may or loan, historical books related to and other historical
RESOLUTION ESTABLISHING THE FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT
this section shall be permanently housed in the Franklin D. Roosevelt
acquired from the donor. The historical material acquired under
LIBRARY, APPROVED JULY 18, 1939
Librury: Provided, That the Archivist may temporarily remove any
153 Stat. 1062-1006]
of such material from the said Library when he deems it to be
Joint Resolution to provide for the establishment and maintenance of the
necessary: And provided further, That the Archivist may dispose
l'ranklin D. Roosevelt Library, and for other purposes.
of any doplicate printed material in the said Library by sale or ex-
change. and, with the approval of the National Archives Council,
States of America in Congress assembled,
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United
may dispose of by sale, exchange, or otherwise any material in the
said ary which appears to have no permanent value or historical
interest. The proceeds of any sale made under this section shall be
TITLE 1-DEPINITIONS
paid into the special account provided for in subsection (d) of sec-
SECTION 1. As used in this joint resolution-
tion 905 of this title, to be held, administered, and expended in
(a) The term "donor" means Franklin D. Roosevelt,
accordance with the provisions of that subsection.
Sen. 204. The faith of the United States is pledged that, upon the
(b) The term "historical material" includes books, correspondence,
construction of the Fronklin D. Roosevelt Library and the nequisi-
papers, pamplilets, works of art, models, pictures, photographs, plats,
maps, and other similar material.
tion from the donor of the collection of historical material in
(c) The term "Board" means the Trustees of the Franklin D.
accordance with the terms of this title, the United States will pro-
Roosevelt Library.
vide such funds as may be necessary for the upkeep of the said
Library and the administrative expenses and costs of operation
TITLE H-FRANKLIN D. BOOSEVELT LIBRARY
thereof, including the preservation and care of historical material
acquired under this title, so that the said Library shull be at all
SEC. 201. The Archivist of the United States is authorized to accept
times properly maintained.
for and in the name of the United States from the donor, or from
Sec. 205. (a) A Board to be known as the Trustees of the Frank-
such person or persons as shall be empowered to act for the donor,
fin D. Roosevelt Library is hereby established. The Archivist and
title to Il tract of land consisting of (LT) area of twelve acres, more or
the Secretary of the Treasury shall be ex officio members, and the
less, of the Hyde Park estate of the donor and his family, located
Archivist shull be chairman of the Board. There shall also be five
on the New York-Albany Post Road, in the town of Hyde Park,
members of the Board appointed by the President for life, but the
Dutchess County, State of New York; such area to be selected and
President may remove any such member for cause. Vacancies on
carved ont of the said estate by the donor and to be utilized as &
the Board shall be filled by the President. Membership on the
site for the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library provided for in this title.
Board shall not be deemed to be an office within the meaning of the
Sec. 202. The Archivist is authorized to permit the Franklin D.
Constitution and statutes of the United States.
Roosevelt Library, Incorporated, a New York corporation organized
(b) No compensation shall be paid to the members of the Board
for that purpose, to construct on the area referred to in section 201 of
for their services as such members, but they shall be allowed their
this title a building. or buildings, to be designated RS the Franklin D.
necessary expenses incurred in the discharge of their duties under
Roosevelt Library, and to Indecape the grounds within the said area.
this title, The certificate of the chairman of the Board shall be
Such project shall be curried out in accordance with plaos and specifi-
sufficient evidence that the expenses are properly allowable,
cations approved by the Archivist, The Federal Works Administra-
(e) The Board is hereby authorized to nocept and receive gifts
tion is authorized to permit the facilities and personnel of the Public
and bequests of personal property and to hold and administer the
Building Administration to be utilized in the preparation of plans for
same RE trust funds for the benefit of the Franklin D. Roosevelt
and in the construction and equipping of the project: Provided,
Library. The moneys or securities composing trust funds given or
That the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library, Incorporated. shall enter
bequeathed to the Board shull be receipted for by the Secretary of
into an arrangement satisfactory to the Secretary of the Treasury to
the Treasury who shall invest, reinvest, and retain investments as the
reimburse the sud Public Building Administration for the costs and
Board may from time to time determine: Provided, however, That
expenses incurred for such purposes, as determined by the Federal
the Board is not authorized to engrage in any business nor to exercise
Works Administration.
any voting privilege which may be incidental to securities in such
SEC, 203. Upon the completion of the project authorized in sec-
trust funds, nor shall the Secretary of the Treasury make any in-
tion 202 of this title, the Archivist shall accept for the Franklin D.
vestments for the account of the Board which could not lawfully be
10
made by 18 trust company in the District of Columbia, except that
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FRANKLIN D. HOOSEVELT LIBBART
13
he may make any Investment directly authorized by the instrument
of gift under which the funds to be invested are derived, and may
8m. 208. The Archivist shull make to the Congress, at the begin-
retain any investments accepted by the Board.
of each regular aussion, 8 report for the preceding fiscal year
(d) The income from any trust funds held by the Board, as and
wing the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library. Such report shall include
when collected, shall be deposited with the Treasurer of the United
- detailed to statement of all accessions, all dispositions of historical
States who shall enter it in a special account to the credit of the
material, and all receipts and expenditures on account of the said
Franklin D. Roosevelt Library and subject to disbursement by the
Archivist, except where otherwise restricted by the instrument of
Library. Sec. 209. The costs incurred by the Archivist in carrying out the
gift, in the purchase of equipment for the Franklin D. Roosevelt
duties placed upon him by this title, including the expenses of the
Library; in the preparation and publication of guides, inventories,
numbers of the Board and the costs of the Board's necessary clerical
calendars, and textual reproduction of material in the said Library;
assistance, shall be paid out of the appropriations for The National
and in the purchase, under section 203 of this title, of historical
Archives Establishment as other costs and expenses of The National
material for the said Library, The Arobivist may make siles of any
Archives Establishment are paid; and such sums as may be necessary
publications authorized by this section at a price which will cover
for such purposes are hereby authorized to be appropriated.
their cost and 10 per centum added, and all moneys received from
TITLE III--FRANKLIN D. BOOSEVELT RESIDENCE
such sales shall be paid into, administered, and expended as a part of
the special account herein provided for,
See 301. The head of any executive department, pursuant to agree-
(e) Unless otherwise restricted by the instrument of gift, the
ment between him and the donor, may accept for and in the name
Board, by resolution duly adopted, may authorize the Archivist to
of the United States from the donor, or from such person or persons
time the principal of any gift or bequest made to it for any of the
as shall be empowered to act for the donor, title to any part or parts
purposes mentioned in subsection (d) hereof.
of the said Hyde Park estate of the donor and his family which shall
(1) The Board shall have all the usual powers of a trustee in
be donated to the United States for tise in connection with any desig-
respect to all funds administered by it, but the members of the Board
nated function of the Government administered in such department.
shall not be personally liable, except for misfeasance. In the admin.
The title to any such property may be accepted under this section
istration of such trust funds the actions of the Board, including any
notwithstanding that it may be subject to the life estate of the donor
payments made or authorized to be made by it from such funds, shall
or of any other person or persons now living: Provided, That during
not be subject to review or attack except in an action brought in the
the continuance of any life estate reserved therein DO expense to the
United States District Court for the District of Columbia, which is
United States in connection with the ordinary maintenance of the
hereby given jurisdiction of such suits, for the purpose of enforcing
property so acquired shall be incurred: Provided further, That the
the provision of any trust accepted by the Board.
neceptance hereunder by the United States of the title to property in
Sec. 206. The Commissioner of Public Buildings shall be respon-
which any life estate is reserved shall not during the existence of such
sible for the care, maintenance, and protection of the buildings and
life estate exempt the property, except to the extent provided in section
grounds of the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library in the same manner
804 [803] of this title, from taxation by the town of Hyde Park,
and to the saine extent BS he is responsible for the National Archives
Dateless County, or the State of New York as other real property
Building in the District of Columbia. Except as provided in the
in the said town, county, or State is taxed under the applicable laws
preceding sentence, the immediate custody and control of the Frank-
relating to taxation of real property.
lin D Roosevelt Library, and such other buildings, grounds, and
See. 802. Upon the expiration of all life estates reserved in any
equipment as may from time to time become a part thereof, and their
property acquired under this title for use in connection with a desig-
contents shall be vested in the Archivist of the United States, and
nated function of the Government, or, if no life estate is reserved,
he is authorized to appoint and prescribe the duties of such officers
immediately upon the acceptance of title thereto, the head of the
unit employees, including clerical assistance for the Board, as my
department administering the said function shall assume jurisdiction
be necessary for the execution of the functions vested in him by
this title
and control over the property so acquired and administer it for the
purpose designated, subject to the applicable provisions of law.
Sec. 207, The Archivist shall prescribe regulations governing the
Sirc. 303, The right is reserved in the Congress to take such action
arrangement, custody, protection, and use of the historical material
and to make such changes, modifications, alterations, and improve-
acquired under this title; and, subject. to such regulations, such ma-
ments in connection with and upon any property acquired under this
Ivrial shall be available to the public free of charge: Provided, That
fith, during or after the expiration of any life estate reserved therein,
the Archivist is authorized to charge and collect, under regulations
as the Congress shall deem proper and necessary to protect and pre-
proseribed by him, a fee not in excess of 25 cents per person for the
werve the same: but neither the improvements 50 made nor any in-
privilege of visiting and viewing the exhibit rooms or museum portion
crease in the value of the property by reason thereof shall be subject
of the said Library; and any funds so derived shall be paid by the
to taxation during the existence of any life estate reserved in the
Anhivist into the special account provided for in subsection (d) of
property.
setion 200 of this title, to be held, administered, and expended under
the provisions of that subsection.
Approved. July 18, 1939.
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15
wondering where else in the world would 12. Chief Executive be
am truly cognizant of the need for close relationship between the
statesman ao and the historian and make such generous disposition of
such priceless material.
APPENDIX IT
This, too, is an unusual occasion in another sense, because this
grand repository Was conceived and came to pass by reason of the
CEREMONIES INCIDENT TO THE DEDICATION OF THE FRANKLIN D.
generosity of fine Americans, 28,000 in number, from every walk of
ROOSEVELT LIBRARY, JUNE 30, 1941
life, representing every State in the Union and the several possessions.
To you fine representative Americana who helped BO nobly to make
INVOCATION BY THE REVEREND PATRICK J. MEE, RECTOR OF THE CHURCH OF
this possible, I say we are sincerely thankful.
REGINA COELI, HYDE PARK, N, Y.
To you, Mr. President, may I my we are most grateful.
0 Almighty and Eternal God, Father of Mercies, in whom
ADDRESS OF R. D. W. CONNOR, ABCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
assembled. live, move, and have our being, graciously look down upon as here We
In normal times the average person thinks little and cares less about
may be truly wise und ever enjoy His consolations.
Enlighten our minds with the light of Thy holy spirit NO that me
the past; he is quite content to let the dead past bury its dead; for
him the living present is sufficient. But when times are out of joint,
the fulfillment of Thy commandments.
Grant to us that peace which can come into our minds only through
when new ideologies appear to challenge traditional ideologies, every
champion of either the new or the old looks to the pust for help, and
Direct, we pray Thee, all our actions by Thy holy inspirations, and
feels himself at liberty to use or abuse the helpless Muse of History
further them by Thy continual assistance, 80 that every prayer and
05 suita his purpose,
work of ours may begin with Thee, and by Thee be happily ended.
We ourselves are living in such a time. Everywhere new and
through the merits of Jesus Christ Our Saviour,
strange isms are engaged in a life and death struggle with old and
Amen.
familiar isms, In our own land, according to our American custom,
the struggle is being waged within the framework of constitutional
REMARKS OF THE HONORABLE BANK C. WALKER, THEASURER OF THE FRANK
LIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY, INC., PRESIDING OFFICER AT THE DEDICATION
principles and practices. Other lands and other peoples have not
OF THE LIBRARY
been so fortunate. From Europe, from Africa, from Asia, come
reverberations of war and revolution. But whether waged with bal-
Mr. President, Ladies and Gentlemen:
lots or with bullets, the conflicts everywhere, in one respect at least,
We are assembled here today to dedicate the Franklin D. Roosevelt
follow the same historic pattern. In the present as in the past, pro-
Library, not to any individual, not to any group, but rather we are
togonista of the new and defenders of the old are busily thambing the
dedicating this splendid historic edifice to the American people,
pages of history in search of arguments to support their own partico-
Here, in the shadows of the birthplace and home of our President,
lar brands of isms. No one who wades patiently through the "publie
now stands, fully completed, a fine building of dignity and importance
pulse" columns of our daily papers can fail to admire the zeal if not
that will serve as the storehouse for the records of a period that has
the knowledge of these champions.
no paralle] in the history of America and of the world. Within
The interests which make such uses of history are ns numerous and
these walls shall be found, in the days to come, a collection of rare
varied as the interests of humanity itself. Ambition to live in history
documents that will well and truly record much of our part in World
has always been a powerful influence in the conduct of men. From
War I, Here will be found papers that will faithfully tell the inti-
earliest times, conquerors and rulers have had the records of their
mate story of the ambitions and aspirations, the suffering and sorrows,
actions preserved, falsified, or destroyed, as the case might require,
and the final triumph of the American people of the New Deal Era-
in the hope that history might speak well of them; leaders of lost
here, conceivably, may come a collection of documents that may pro-
causes have appealed for vindication from the verdict of their con-
vide more accurate source material delineating the world's greatest
temporaries to the verdict of history: and martyrs of every philos-
catastrophe, World War II, than may be found in any one collection
ophy have found consolation in handing over their persecutors to
of papers of an individual in the world.
history's avenging pen. But respect for the judgments of history
This unusual occasion is made possible by the fine understanding
is not confined to individuals; society itself, in every form, has
he presented to the people of America his private records, which tell
and appreciation of our President, who did that which is unique when
acknowledged its power. The Exchange, the Church, the State, have
feared its condemnation and courted its praise.
n Hory of n. most interesting and important era in world history. I
In a national crisis, men instinctively seek to find in the spirit
of the past inspiration to strengthen the morale of the present. Not
With the exception of the address by Dr. Connor, the material in this
long ago the President appealed to the American people for national
appeads 14 la taken from a stenographic report of the ceremonies
unity in the present crisis. Only through national unity, be told
ns, can We successfully defend our national heritage" and pass it
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PRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIBRARY
17
on come." "not only But intact, What is but strunger than ever, to all generations
of false respect in truth and defend its integrity! The 0102
if we do not its CRD we pass it on intact and stronger than national
history? And how our "national heritage" if it is not fille yet to
administrations in history. Think, for instance, of the number of
Your will be latter documented than any earlier Presidential
meile, misleading books about the great Abraham
les tin more history be desired a speteious patriotism. and a spurions product
Linedia that we might have been spared, had his heirs brought to-
to in Il democracy than in an autocracy,
gather and a collection of papers as this. But, Mr. President, if
TAW when outerials of history are the records of past human
am going to keep if Smig Harbor for all your collections and your
you from the White House, 1 shall have to warn you to give
and to him only the such records have been preserved and made available officies,
papers of these "oddities" the "deep six" or they will overflow and
Ii toust can have been historian truly reconstruct and interpret the
contrete expression in this library which We dedicate today, finds
some such thought that inspired the idea that Dur,
take np Class "pare needed for documents, I know you are the
Nation's No. 1 collector, but collecting can be overdone, even by No. 1.
Thoughtful person will seriously question the fact that the No
I want to any to the President's neighbors from Dutchess County
renomic, and social development of both the domestic and political.
IN assendited if you feel an impulse to give the President that old
afferirs of the United States during the past two deeades marks foreign
hor trunk in the nittie, or horse buggy, don't do it!
Not (Tait I um one of those who regard all historical material as his-
the that this period will be the subject of intensive study
dontited poriod UF a distinctivo uta in our national bistory: now can it this be
ing un paper or in ink. Far from it. I should like to sec. for in-
Toture historians, politiont wrientists, economists, and sociologiste of the by
stude, in this Library and musenm-well, a straw from that Literary
Suns Vote. I should like to see some of then Blades of Grass
Franklin D. Roosevelt, the historian, was quite as well aware
That grow in the Streets of our Cities. 1 should like to see n.
the fuel n° Was Franklin D. Ronsevelt, the statesman, when, of
Mark nit of that firmous Walk time led ont. from the White House,
Incomber 10, 1938, las annomed to the country his plan for on
and line now tompily come full circle, back again.
establement of Hris library. Mior describing the rich and varied the
And when I go below here, Mr. President, down into the hold of
N° of a whole atul intact in their original condition. ovailable to stolars
noterials (I) his collections, he soid: "It in my desiro that they be kopt
the building, I entimat help approving those ice-boats and carriages,
eyes if Hwy do take up a lot of space. They are going to be very
the future in one definite locality
interesting to historians in the future.
PPI, thought fireproof that building can be raised for the crection It of is, 11 separate, therefore, made my
Mr. President, you and I went to sen first al about the sume time,
and in the same waters, along the const of the Bay of Fundy, where
so designed that it would hold all of
flory is an uwful lot of fog, and I know that learning to suil through
this period in our history as might be domited to the collection in to
big own collections and also such other source material relating
the frigg has been extremely oseful to me, and I shouldn't wonder if il
future by other members of the present Administration." This there
badn't been sometimes usoful to you, Mr. President.
history." colled n. sources nuterial collection relating to a specific period in our
would be "wit op for the first time in this country what might be
It W/IB down in those regions a summer "yotter" asked il native
lobsternan what the lighthouse at "Tit Manan looked like. The lob-
sterman said. "Well, sir, I am afraid I don't know, I have been
That plan Terre now been carried into effect. and we have met here
living down here and lobstering for 50 years, but I ain't seen it yet."
today to dedicare the building and its contents to the service of the
Now, Mr. President, you know as well as I do that seamen don't like
American people, We do this in confident expectation that for
sailing through fog. nor do historians, But owing to the wise and
governtions to conts, the Franklin D. Roosevelt Library will be the
g-nerons provisions that have been made, there will be no Inistorical
Merra for rebolars And statesmen who would learn how in the mider
frg over the history of your administrations.
of IL world conflict between antocracy and democracy a free people
REMARKS OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES
provided institutions. these freedom and strengthened their democratic
Mr. Wolker, Dr. Connor:
It sems to ne that the dedication of a library is in itself on not of
REMARKS OF SAMURE E MORISON, PROFESSOR OF HISTORY AT HARVAND
faith To bring together the records of the past and to them in
UNIVERSITY
lauklings where they will be preserved for the lise of meti and women
One of my Reverite quotations to annotinée a historical address,
in the future, A nation forst believe in three things.
when a poet is present-is from Date
To must believe in the pust,
The (10ml le able to my OF sing Urings, not as they were, but ITA they
"It in one thing to write as a poet. another ИН all historian.
Ti must believe in the future.
It must, above nll, believe in the capacity of its own people sO to
modit to Inc. The historian has to write of them, not as they should
learn from the past that they can guin in judgement in creating their
have leon, Int 01 They were, without adding to them or subtracting
own future.
(ton) the both in any way,"
D has been among democracies, I think, through all the recorded
Now, Mr. Provident. it will be previble to write the truth, the whole
history of the world, that the building of persunent Institutions
Instructival Truth, aboid. your ndministrations, on account of this
like libraries and museums for the use of all the people has flourished.
wonderful collection Host you the bringing regether in this building
18
REPORT OF THE ARCHIVIST OF THE UNITED STATES
FRANKLIN D. ROOSEVELT LIDRARY
19
the determination interest rather than
people ought to work of out their for best. themselves, and through their own study,
And that is especially true in our own land, because We believe that
O'Commor very old friend is also the man who And your let
from New York; and Frank Walker, carries who in addition mail; and to
kind of course, rather than to accept such so-called information
Dr. is there? Oh, I asked him but he get Island
being Morison, a an old seafaring friend of mine. couldn't now here us today. see,
who decide what is best for them.
may be handed out to them by certain types of self-constituted leaders D
He was cooler than Hyde Park. Another old friend, whom you
who else terribly sorry, but he said, quite frankly. that Long have
And so it. is in keeping with the well-considered trend of these
servi was here many times with me-Harry Hopkins.
difficult days that we are distributing our own historical collections
so-and so I am asking the first Federal judge to be appointed
more widely than ever before throughout the length and breadth of
old these-1 won't call them diplomas, but they Jook like diplomas-
from friend Eddie Conger of Poughkeepsie, to step forward give
And Dutchess County for I don't know how many generations, when I our
our land. From the point of view of their sufety-the physical
safety of our records-it is, it seems to us in later times, Wiser that
these records should not be too greatly concentrated. And from
out these new trustees. I am going to ask Federal District Judge
the point of view of accessibility of these records, greatly concern
Conger to to administer the oath of office.
trated in any one place in the United States, modern methods, to
[The oath of office was then administered to Basil O'Connor, Samuel
which we have become accustomed, now make study and dissemination
E. Morison, and Frank C. Walker.]
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This particular Library is but one of many new libraries, And so,
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because it happens to be a national one, I as President have the privi.
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preserved-public papers and collections that refer to our own period
of history.
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name. May He give us light to guide us, courage to support us, and
Holy Spirit, rest upon our people and upon all our work done in His
May the blessing of God Almighty, the Father, the Son, and the
a moment when government of the people by themselves is being
love to unite us, now and forevermore.
attacked everywhere,
Amount
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in the future of democracy has not diminished in this Nation and
will not diminish.
As all of you know, into this Librury there has gone, and will con-
tinue to go, the interest and loving care of a great many people,
Most of you who are here today are old friends and neighbors of
mine-friends and neighbors throughout the years. And so all of
you, my friends and neighbors, are in a sense trustees of this Library
through the years to come,
We hope that millions of our citizens from every part of the land
will be glad that what we do today makes available to future Ameri-
cans the story of what We have lived, and what we are living today,
and what We will continue to live during the rest of our lives.
And so I am grateful to all of you for all that you have done.
I think that the cereinonies are now over, except for one very im-
portant addition that relates to the future. Under an act of the Con-
gress of the United States, there was appointed-authorized to be
appointed-a Boned of Trustees, who will be responsible for this
Library from midnight tonight, through the years to come.
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to some of the trustees, this is the last chance you have to see this
Library free of charge. At midnight tonight the Government of the
United States takes over, and it takes over through this Board of
Trustees of which Dr. Connor, the Archivist-the National Archivist
of the United States-is to be the Chairman, and on which will serve
ex officio our own neighbor from this county, the Secretary of the
Treasury of the United States-Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
And incidentally, I have appointed a number of very old friends
of mine to serve as additional trustees: My old law partner, Basil
173
Dear Marriners
I have your letter of January 28, 1942, enclosing a
nemorandum which expresses the unanimous view of those
present at your meeting on Friday, January 23, on the
program of Treasury financing that might be followed
during the was period.
I appreciate your sending this to no. I have turned
it over to the various staff members for study and we will
probably want to discuss it with you at some later date.
Sincerely,
Secretary of the Treasury
Honorable Marriner 5. Eccles,
Chairman,
Board of Governors of the
Federal Receive System,
Teshington, D. C.
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From: MR. FITZGERALD
176
BOARD OF GOVERNORS
Di THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON
JEWIERS
29,
Honorable llenry Margenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
D. C.
new
to you mov, the members of the Board and of the
Poderal Open Market Committee have been giving consideration
for EL con/dderable period of time to a program of Trensury fi-
nancing that might be followed during the war period. From
time to time we have had informal meetings in Washington the
last of which was held on Friday, January 23. At that meeting,
in addition to members of the Board, there were present Messrs.
stoul, Leach, and Williams, Presidents of the Federal Reserve
Broker of New York, Richmond, and Philadelphia, respectively,
Mesrs. Goldenweiser and Piser of the Board of Governors, and
Ressrs. Williams and Rouse of the New York Federal Reserve
Bank. As the result of discussions at that meeting, there was
prepared the attached memorandum which expresses the unanimous
view of those present, and it was understood that I would trans-
mit the statement to you for such consideration as you may wish
to give to it. If you or the members of your staff wish to dis-
cusa the various aspects of the program, we shall be glad to go
& the Treasury for that purpose at n time that is convenient
to you.
During the meeting on Friday Mr. Williams of Phila-
delphia presented a memorandum relating to the subject of busi-
ness funds for noninflationary war financing and it WAS agreed
thirt 5 copy of this memorandum would be sent to you as n supple-
ment to that pert of the general memorandum dealing with an
Lasue designed to attract temporarily idle business funds.
Sincerely,
S. weeles,
Chairmon.
Regraded Unclassified
TREASURY FINANCING
177
110 Prosident in nis Budget Message submitted to the Congress on
1
the following statement concerning "Borrowing and the Mensice
supply
d
"Inst year, defense expenditures so stimulated private
capital outlays that intonsified use of private funds and
private crodit added to the influtionary pressure created
by public spending.
"Under it full war program, Newever, most of the in-
chest in expenditures will replace private capital out-
195° rather than add to them. Allocations and priorities,
by shortuges of reterial, are now in operation;
11,07 curtail private outlays for consumers' durable FOODS,
private and public construction, expansion and ovun ru-
placements in nondufense plunt sná equipment. Those
Jr.stic curtailments of nondofense expenditures odd, there-
for , to the private funds svailable for noninflationary
financing of the Government deficit.
"Tile factor will contribute substantially to financing
the tremendous war <ffort rithout disruptive price rises
ad without necossituting a departure from our low-interust-
rate policy."
This statement will only Be birne out by the event If, in fact,
private funás diverted from their normal uses are lent to the Government
luning the your period. It omphasizes the neconsity of tuking further steps
DC obtain the maximim amount of borrowed funds from lenders other than
cond banks.
devising sorrowed Punis from Lendors
the Corporcial Danlis
(1) The President's Sudget Mossage indicated that expenditures
of the Fuderal Government nt during the fieral year 19/2-1913 (beginning July 1,
$0.0 write Le approximately 160 billions.
(2) Or the basis of the estimates riven in the Zudget Missury,
the revenue from proposed They taxes, the Fuder 1 dubt will indreant
570.8 billior on June 30, 1942, to 3110.L billion on Jury 30, 1943, an
EMail 12 039.8 billion.
(3) Th. : t public borrowing contennlated in the fiscal your
mede 033.6 billion.
(1.) Making allowance for possible sulve of Defonse Sevings Bonds
Bar to present solling program and a not increase over the fiscal year
count of tix anticipation notes and depository Londs outstanding, it
likely that 20 to "25 billions will him to be obtained by the sale
1 mem securities to banks end to other londors and inv stors.
Regraded Unclassified
-- 2
178
(5) The grave necessity of the Treasury's taking further steps
to obtain the maximum amount of these borrowed funds from lenders and in-
vestors other than commercial banks is apparent, if fiscal and monetary
policy is to contribute its share to the anti-inflation program. It will
require more than additional pressure for the sale of the present series
of Defense Savings Bonds, important as that is.
(6) The principal sources of funds, other than the banking
system and the small income purchasers of the present series of Defense
Savings Bonds, are:
(a) Insurance companies, other institutional investors
of various kinds, public bodies, wealthy individuals,
trustees, etc.
(b) Corporations and other business concerns which, in
the aggregate, may now have or may accumulate large
idle balances.
These two sources of funds must be tapped by the Government, and
preferably should be tapped with obligations which have fil special appeal for
tho holders of such funds but which cannot get into the commercial banking
system.
(7) It is sugrested that an attompt should be mado to roach those
funds with two issues, extending the present sorios of Defense Savings Bonds,
one of longer term for insurance companies and similar long-torm investors,
and one of shortor torm for business concerns (and public bodies) with
temporarily idlo funds.
The general foatures of such offerings might be as stated below.
(The exact ratos and naturities of those issues are, of course, subject to
review. We are in agreement that the terms of those offerings should not be
inconsistent with existing open-markot rates and maturities having in mind
suggested rostrictions upon nogotiability and other differences.):
(a) Long-torm issue:
Interest rate: 2 1/2%,
Maturity: 15 years or thoreabouts,
Redemption: At cost value with interost adjustment
(as in the case of Sories E, F, and G Savings Bonds)
on six months' notice after bond has been held
for one yoar,
Negotiability: Not negotiable in consideration
of redemption foature,
Callable: Not callable prior to maturity,
Salos Rostriction: For the present, limited sale
to any ono purchaser in any one year, upper limit
to be not loss than $1,000,000.
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179
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(b) Short-term issue:
Interest rate:
Rate of interest
payments
Yield
6 months
3/8
0.38
1 year
5/8
0.50
1 1/2 years
7/8
0.62
2
1 1/8
0.75
2 1/2
1 3/8
0.87
3
1 1/2
0.98
3 1/2
1 5/8
1.07
4
1 3/4
1.15
4 1/2
1 7/8
1.23
5
2
1.30
Maturity: 4 or 5 years, preferably 4 years,
Redemption: Redeemable -- after held six months,
on 60 days' notice at any time,
Negotiability: Not negotiable,
Callable: Not callable,
Sales Restriction: Available in unlimitod amounts,
(8) It is also suggested that there be an immediate increase in
the supply of Treasury bills to at least $2.6 billion (not including tax
period bills), whi ch would contribute not only to the fluidity of the money
markot but would also provide an alternative modium for the temporary
invostment of idlo public and business balancos. With $2.6 billion of Treasury
bills outstanding, thore would still be an adoquate margin of reserve buying
power in this markot to take care of emergoncy or temporary financing which
it might be desirable or necessary to accomplish with additional of forings
of bills.
It is also important that consideration regularly be given to
issuing additional blocks of Treasury bills to mature in the three or four
days following the quarterly tax payment dates.
(9) In so far as it is nocessary to use bank credit in financing
the Treasury's needs, money should be sought from banks with short-torm
opon markut issues, that is, with notos and bonds with maturities not ex-
cooding ten years. It may be truo that the breadth of the open markot will
be somewhat reduced by the sale of the rostricted issues suggested above.
It is more certainly true that to the extent such sales are successful in
obtaining for Government uso funds which otherwise would leve lain idlc,
the amount of the issues which it will be nocessary to place in the open
market will be reduced. On balance, and over a period, it would seem most
likely that the successful sale of these rostricted issues would be &
factor of strength, not of workness, in the open markot,
Regraded Unclassified
180
Pattern of Rates
(1) Our experience in the last war, the experience of other
countries in this war, and our present capacity for the management of the
monetary and credit resources of the country, all indicate that this program
should not be cast in the old pattern of rising rates of interest as the
war progresses. Price control is required in the field of credit, just as
in other fields, when the Government is the principal borrower in the market
and the cause of its borrowing is the defense of our national existence.
(2) It is, therefore, desirable, and the existing situation in
the money market and the Government security market makes it practicable,
to dotormino and establish a pattern of rates for United States Government
securities which will fix, for the present, the general terms of Treasury
financing.
(3) It is suggested that the rango of rates establishod by such
a pattorn should be, for the present, from 1/4-1/2 to 2 1/2 por cent, for
obligations other than Series E Dofense Savings Bonds. The lower limit of
the range and the short-torm ratus in general could have somo flexibility
without disturbing the maximum or long-term rato. The 2 1/2 per cont long-
turn rato approximates closely enough the general pattern of rates which
has already been established, and stoers a middlo course between the dangor
of B. substantial declino in the priocs of outstanding socurities on the
one hand, and the dangor of an unattractive program which will not draw
the maximum funds from investors and investing institutions on the other.
(4) Within the terms of the genoral financing program we
suggest, the ostablishment and maintenance of such a pattern of ratos does
not require the excessive volume of excess reserves which has characterized
recent years. It does contemplate that should excess reserves shrink to a
point which endangers maintenance of the pattern the Reserve System will
provide a sufficient volumo of reserves to enable banks to assist the
Treasury's financing to whatever extent is necessary.
Regraded Unclassified
181
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia,
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM A
Proposed Plan for Utilizing Idle Business Funds by the Treasury
The var program now calls for expenditures at the rate of $50-60,000,000.-
tod & year. In physical terms this means (1) that about one-half of our industrial
state will be engaged directly on the production and transportation of war materials,
1 12} that about one-half of our human resources will be engaged either in the
1241 forces or in the production and transportation of supplies for the armed forces,
(inancial terms it means that the Treasury will have to acquire $50-60,000,000,000
IT purchasing power. If inflation is to be minimized, these funds must be obtained
⑉195 89 little resort to bank credit 88 possible.
How such can be raised through taxes and borrowed savings? Even if the tax
revenue is doubled and borrowed savings exceed one billion dollars a month, there
would still be an inflationary gap to bridge. Based upon current estimates of ex-
venditures and reasonable possibilities of expanding real income, it would appear
that the Treasury may have to resort to bank credit to a considerable extent, as is
indicated in the following examples.
POSSIBLE METHOD OF MEETING TREASURY REQUIREMENTS - IN BILLIONS
1942-1943
1941-1942
1942-1943
(extrone)
Satimated abount procurable from:
Caxes
$12
$24
$26
Government trust funds
2
5
6
Defense Savings Securities
a
12
14
Total availabl
$22
$41
$45
Towal. need of the Treasury (war and ordinary)
33
63
62
Remost to bene credit, if not available from other sources.
$11
$21
$16
The Assumptions as to the amount that can be secured from taxes and borrowed savings
170 probably over-optimistic, but they suggest the urgency for exploring all possible
lources of funds if inflation is to be curbed.
Operations have already been undertaken by the Treasury to raise a large
Regraded Unclassified
(Memorandum 4, Cont.)
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182
pertion of the required funds through taxation and through the sale of Defense Bonds
to individuals. There exists, however, within business enterprise itself, a. large
volume of potentially inflationary funds, particularly if used for nondefense pur-
poses. Specifically. the funds consist of business balances available after taxation
accruals have been set aside and business operating requirements have been met, No
adequate provision has yet been made to use this money in the war effort.
Special attention must be given to this potential market for Treasury f1-
sancing because (1) the amounts involved may become huge as the year progresses, (2)
these funds in large part are not properly subject to taxation, and (3) Treasury ob-
ligations now available for the investment of these funds are not particularly suit-
able to the needs of the situation. What is required, obviously, is a special con-
sideration of the kinds of Federal securities best adapted to meet the needs of busi-
sess concerns for the investment of idle business funds and a special organization to
promote the sale of these securities to business enterprises.
Large business balances will arise during 1942 out of (a) surplus earnings
not needed for immediate expansion, (b) liquidation of current assets (accounts re-
ceivable and inventories). and (c) depreciation accruals. In view of prospective
shortages of materials, it is probable that enterprises not engaged directly on war
production will not be in & position to replace current inventories during the coming
year or to replace capital equipment for which depreciation is taken. It is impossi-
ble to estimate closely the funds that may become available from these two sources
but their total may well aggregate as much as $10,000,000,000. Part of the funds BO
released will be used to repay indebtedness. The remainder of the funds should be
invested in Treasury obligations. Such investment will make them available to finance
the war effort without inflationary effects and will leave business enterprise in a
strong financial position to re-acquire materials and re-equip plant when the emer-
gency is over, The amounts so invested should be as large as possible, because, to
minimize inflation, it is essential to postpone as long se possible all deferable
business expenditures.
January 16, 1942.
Regraded Unclassified
183
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NOWINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM 3
What is the Amount of Business Funds
Available for War Financing?
The minimum amount of business funds in the United States available for In-
restment in Government securities might be placed at $7 billion. Of this total prob-
ably over $750 million might be procured in the Third Federal Reserve District.
Conservative estimates made informally by the National Bureau of Economic
Research at the request of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia indicate the fol-
loving volume of business funds that are now available or will become available dur-
ing 1942.
Available
Sources of funds
Total
for investment
(Dollar figures in billions)
in 1942
in Government
securities
1. Cash balances
$10.0
$1.4
2. Inventory
26,6
2.7
3. Undistributed earnings
2,6
1.1
4. Depreciation accruals
4.3
1.9
TOTAL
$7.1
Large concerns (assets over $1 million).
$4.6
Small concerns (assets under $1 million)
2.5
These estimates do not include cash that may be derived from collection of
receivables, giving an additional sum of $500 million.
The break-down by grand totals and by groups shows the following:
Manu-
Con-
Serv-
Public
(000,000's omitted in figures)
factur-
Trade
struc-
Mining
ices
util.
Total
ing
tion
1. Existing cash balances
$5,876
$1,990
3420
$133
$450
$1,170
$10,039
Available - purchase U.S. 380,...
1,370
50
-
-
!
-
1,420
2, Existing inventories
14,413
10,450
580
80
300
795
26,618
Liquidation in 1942
1,325
2,130
0
0
o
o
3,455
Available - purchase U.S. sec.
(Net of retirent. of notes pay.)
1,040
1,608
o
o
o
o
2,648
3, Undistributed earnings
1,615
300
93
25
60
505
2,598
Available - purchase U.S. 800,...
750
205
50
o
40
50
1,095
4, Depreciation accruals
1,985
450
180
110
400
1,200
4,325
Available purchase U.S. 600,...
955
285
45
40
300
300
1,925
January 16, 1942.
184
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM C
What Type of Treasury Security Would be Most
Suitable for Sale to Business Concerns?
Informal contact with the Presidents and Treasurers of business concerns in
Philadelphia indicates!
1. Appreciation of the public need of pressing the sale of Treasury securi-
ties to business concerns in order to siphon off cash balances now avail-
able or to become available in 1942 through inventory liquidation, col-
lection of receivables, accumulated depreciation accruale, etc.
2. Willingness to participate in e program such as has been suggested by
the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
3. The importance of bringing out B. new type of Treasury security tailor-
made to fit the problem of business concerns.
This memorandum is specifically directed toward the last problem . the need
for A special type of security for this purpose. There is general agreement that
Treasury securities now available are not particularly suited to the investment of
idle cash balances of corporations. There is also general agreement that the issu-
ance of a suitable security would make directly available to the Treasury large
amounts of cash that at present are left on deposit and are made available only
through recourse to the banks.
It is suggested that a special issue of Treasury notes similar to that pro-
posed last year by Chairman Eccles would meet the needs outlined. Such notes would
be marketed in the manner outlined in Memorandum D. They would have the following
characteristics.
1. Maturity - 3 years. or 5 years.
2. The notes could be issued on a besis that each coupon
would be for e definite mount rising from my a 1/2 per sent
rate for the first coupon to a 1 per comb rate for throe-year
naturity and 1-1/2 per cent rate for five-year naturity for
the final eoupon.
3, Registered.
4. Non-negotiable, but elegible as collateral at the Reserve Bank.
5, Redeemable by the Treasury on three months' notice after six months from
purchase. Interest for the portion of the period during which ascurities
are redeemed to be paid at coupon rate for the full period.
January 16, 1942.
Regraded Unclassified
185
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM D
How to Sell Treasury Securities to Business Concerns
PROPOSED VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATION TO PROMOTE THE SALE
OF TREASURY SECURITIES TO BUSINESS CONCERNS
IN THE THIRD FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT
UNITED STATES TREASURY
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
THIRD FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT
BUSINESS VICTORY FUND COMMITTEE
Business men
Bankers
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
INDUSTRIAL AREA COMMITTEES
Wilkes- Wilmington
Altoona Allentown, Etc.
Barre
Members of regional committees should represent such
industries as manufacturing, trade, construction, min-
ing, public utilities, and services, as local condi-
tions warrant.
1. The Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia is to set up & well-integrated working
organization for the Third Federal Reserve District. It should have an appro-
priate title, as explanatory and suggestive as possible. For example, it may be
designated as -
BUSINESS VICTORY FUND COMMITTEE
2, This organization is to be established by industrial areas, or combination of
such areas, having due regard to industrial structure of each area.
(a) Business Victory Fund Committee is to be represented by one business
san and one banker from each area, and by the Federal Reserve Bank.
Regraded Unclassified
186
(Memorandum D, Cont.)
&
The primary purpose of this Committee is to provide organiza-
tional material and to cover all parts of the District and all
leading industries therein.
(b) This Committee is to appoint an Executive Committee consisting of three
business men, three bankers and the President of the Federal Reserve
Bank or his alternate.
The function of the Executive Committee is to develop the
program and to direct the campaign among business concerns.
The Reserve Bank is to provide the needed facilities for
this purpose.
3. Regional Committees. Under the direction of the Executive Committee, representa-
tives on the Business Victory Fund Committee are to organize appropriate local
committees within their respective areas.
(a) The size of such committees should be large enough, but not too large,
to enable its members to canvass industrial establishments within the
areas.
(b) Committee members should be responsible business executives, as they
are to be the effective saleemen of Treasury securities designed for
the purpose.
(c) The chairmen of such local committees should be members of the general
committee and should be responsible to the Executive Committee.
4. The supply of Treasury securities is to be handled by the Reserve Bank, as
Fiscal Agent -
(a) The Reserve Bank is to issue the security directly upon receipt of
applications and payments, or
(b) The Reserve Bank may issue the security in due course through the banks
authorized for this purpose.
5. The Federal Reserve Bank, as Fiscal Agent, is to be directly responsible for the
proper functioning of the organization, assisting the Treasury in every way to
assure the success of the campaign.
(a) The Treasury is to define general policy and to provide suitable se-
curity for sale.
(b) The Bank is to advance the necessary expenses, such expenses to be re-
inbursed by the Treasury in the usual manner.
January 16, 1942
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187
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM E
Would the Proposal to Sell Special Securities
To Business Concerns be Acceptable to Banks?
la Withdrawals of deposits by business concerns for purchase of Government securi-
ties would not result in hardship to banks.
(a) Às the Treasury spends borrowed funds, banke receive new deposits
immediately.
(b) Large banks in New York City would probably be the heaviest losers
of business deposits but they, too, would soon regain the funds
through Treasury operations.
2. Deposit withdrawls may lessen the burden on the capital structure of many banks.
(a) While this effect may be temporary, it will indicate the fluidity of
funds and tend to lessen the pressure for higher capital ratios.
(b) This would be desirable because (1) at present It would be difficult
to raise capital locally and (2) it wight lessen the concern of super-
visory authorities in this respect.
3. As an integral part of the program to curb inflation, the proposed plan would be
in the interest of sound banking and credit.
(a) Inflation and deflation are injurious to banking: they disrupt values
and expose assets to undue risk.
(b) À spiral and tailspin of prices impoverish the people, destroy savings,
increase cost to the Government and the taxpayer, and undermine the
capital and credit structures.
(c) The plan provides for noninflati onary borrowing as against inflationary
borrowing from commercial banks.
4. Active support of the proposed plan by the bankers will aid in war financing,
help in curbing inflation, and assist in safeguarding the credit structure
against current and prospective dislocations.
(a) Wisdom and self-interest require cooperation, as the war must be won
regardless of financial difficulties.
(b) Cooperation in the use of funds may forestall the need for further
over-all and selective credit controls, including adjustment in re-
quired reserves.
(c) The effect of the proposal will be to minimize & post-war slump.
(d) The support of the plan would result in good public relationship.
January 16, 1942.
Regraded Unclassified
BOARD OF GOVERNORS
OF THE
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
WASHINGTON
OFFICE or THE CHAIRMAN
,
Jenuery LB, 1041
Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
Secretary of the Treasury,
Mashington, D. C.
Dear Henry:
As you know, the members of the Board and of the
Federal Open Market Committee have been giving consideration
for a considerable period of time to a program of Treasury f1-
nancing that might be followed during the war period. From
time to time we have had informal meetings in Washington the
last of which was held on Friday, January 23. At that meeting,
in addition to members of the Board, there were present Messrs.
Sproul, Leach, and Williams, Presidents of the Federal Reserve
Banks of New York, Richmond, and Philadelphia, respectively,
Messrs. Goldenweiser and Piser of the Board of Governors, and
Messre. Williams and Rouse of the New York Federal Reserve
Bank. As the result of discussions at that meeting, there was
prepared the attached memorandum which expresses the unanimous
view of those present, and it was understood that I would trans-
mit the statement to you for such consideration as you may wish
to give to it. If you or the members of your staff wish to dis-
cues the various aspects of the program, we shall be glad to go
to the Treasury for that purpose at a time that is convenient
to you.
During the meeting on Friday Mr. Williams of Phila-
delphia presented a memorandum relating to the subject of busi-
nees funds for noninflationary war financing and it was agreed
that . copy of this memorandum would be sent to you as a supple-
west to that part of the general memorandum dealing with an
Spouse designed to attract temporarily idle business funds.
Sincerely,
Marrmer
M. S. Eccles,
Chairman.
Regraded Unclassified
TREASURY FINANCING
The President in his Budget Message submitted to the Congress on
January 1 mide the following statement concerning "Borrowing and the Menace
of
"Last year, defonse expenditures so stimulated private
capital outlays that intensified use of private funds and
private credit added to the influtionary pressure created
by public sponding.
"Undor a full war program, howover, most of the in-
cruase in expenditures will replace private capital out-
lays rathor than add to them, Allocations and priorities,
necussitated by shortagos of material, are now in operation;
they curtail private outlays for consumers' durable goods,
privato and public construction, expansion and oven re-
placements in nondefense plant and equipment, These
drastic curtailments of nondofense expenditures add, there-
fore, to the private funds available for noninflationary
financing of the Government deficit,
"This factor will contribute substantially to financing
the tremondous war effort without disruptivo prico rises
and without nccessitating a departure from our low-interest-
rate policy."
This statement will only be berne out by the event if, in fact,
privato funds diverted from their normal usos are lent to the Government
during the war period. It emphasizes the necessity of taking further steps
to obtain the maximum amount of borrowed funds from lenders other than
commorcial banks.
Obtaining Borrowed Funds from Londers
Other than Commercial Banks
(1) The President's Budget Mossage indicated that expenditures
of the Foderal Government during the fiscal year 1942-1943 (beginning July 1,
1942) would be approximately $60 billions.
(2) On the basis of the catimates givon in the Budgot Message,
including the rovenue from proposed now taxes, the Foderal dobt will increaso
from $70.6 billior on June 30, 1942, to $110.4 billion on Junc 30, 1943, an
incroase of $39.8 billion.
(3) The not public borrowing contemplated in the fiscal yoar
1942-1943 totals $33.6 billion.
(4) Making allowance for possible salos of Defense Savings Bonds
under
as
present solling program and G nct incruase over the fiscal year
La
ount of tax anticipation notus and depositary bonds outstanding, it
appears
Mooly that $20 to 325 billions will have to be obtained by the sale
of
unt sccurities to banks and to other londors and invustors.
Regraded Unclassified
-- 2 --
The grave necessity of the Treasury's taking further steps
to obtain
eximum amount of these borrowed funds from lenders and in-
waters
than commercial banks is apparent, if fiscal and monetary
policy
sontribute its share to the anti-inflation program, It will
require
than additional pressure for the sale of the present series
of
Defense
vings Bands, important as that is.
(6) The principal sources of funds, other than the banking
system and the small income purchasers of the present series of Defense
Savings Bonia, are:
(a) Insurance companies, other institutional investors
of warious kinds, public bodies, wealthy individuals,
trustees, etc.
(b) Corporations and other business concerns which, in
the aggregate, may now have or my accumulate large
idle balances.
These two sources of funds must be tapped by the Government, and
proferably should be tapped with obligations which have a special appeal for
the holders of such funds but which cannot get into the commercial banking
system.
(7) It is suggested that an attempt should be mado to roach those
funds with two issues, extending the present sorios of Defonso Savings Bonds,
one of longer torm for insurance companies and similar long-torm investors,
and CELO of shorter torm for business concerns (and public bodies) with
temporarily idlo funds.
The general foatures of such offerings might be as stated below.
(The asset ratos and maturitios of those issues arc, of course, subject to
review. To are in agreement that the terms of those offerings should not be
inconsistent with existing open-markot rates and maturities having in mind
suggested restrictions upon nogotiability and other differences.)
(a) Long-torm issuo:
Interest rato: 2 1/2%,
Maturity: 15 years or thoreabouts,
Redemption: At cost valuo with interest adjustment
(as in the caso of Series E, F, and G Savings Bonds)
on six months' notice after bond has boon hold
for one year,
Negotiability: Not negotiable in consideration
of redomption foature,
Callable: Not callable prior to maturity,
Salos Restriction: For the present, limited sale
to any ono purchasor in any one year, upper limit
to be not loss than $1,000,000.
Regraded Unclassified
m : :
(b) Short-term issue:
Interest rate:
Rate of interest
payments
Yield
6 months
3/8
0.38
1 year
5/8
0.50
1 1/2 years
7/8
0.62
2
1 1/8
0.75
2 1/2
1 3/8
0.87
3
1 1/2
0.98
3 1/2
1 5/8
1.07
1.
1 3/4
1.15
4 1/2
1 7/8
1.23
5
2
1.30
Naturity: 4 or 5 years, preferably 4 years,
Redemption: Redeemable -- after held six months,
on 60 days' notice at any time,
Negotiability: Not negotiable,
Callable: Not callable,
Sales Restriction: Available in unlimitod amounts.
(8) It is also suggested that there be an immediate increase in
the supply of Treasury bills to at least $2.6 billion (not including tax
period bills), whi would contribute not only to the fluidity of the money
markot but would also provide an alternative medium for the temporary
investment of idlo public and businoss balances. With $2.6 billion of Treasury
bills outstanding, thore would still be an adequate margin of reservo buying
power* in this markot to take care of emorgency or temporary financing which
it might be dosirable or nocessary to accomplish with additional offorings
of bills,
It is also important that consideration regularly be given to
issuing additional blocks of Treasury bills to mature in the three or four
days following the quartorly tax payment dates.
(9) In so far LB it is nocessary to use bank credit in financing
the Treasury's needs, money should be sought from banks with short-torm
opon market issues, that is, with notos and bonds with maturities not EX-
coodi ten years. It may bc truc that the breadth of the open markot will
be somewhat reduced by the salo of the restricted issues suggested above.
It 10 more certainly true that to the extent such sales are successful in
obtaining for Government uso funds which otherwise would have lain idlc,
the amount of the issues which it will be necessary to place in the open
market dill be reduced. On balance, and over a period, it would soon most
likely that the successful sale of these restricted issues would be &
factor of strungth, not of weakness, in the open markot,
Regraded Unclassified
4
Pasteri
Our experience in the last war, the experience of other
countrie
M # war, and our present capacity for the management of the
scortary
prodit resources of the country, all indicate that this program
should
st in the old pattern of rising rates of intorest as the
Price control is required in the field of credit, just as
me
Le other
when the Government is the principal borrower in the market
and
the
of its borrowing is the defense of our national existence.
(2) It is, therefore, desirable, and the existing situation in
the
or
arket and the Government security market makes it practicable,
#
and establish a pattern of rates for United States Government
which will fix, for the present, the general terms of Treasury
Dransing.
(3) It is suggested that the rango of ratos established by such
3
patients should bo, for the present, from 1/4-1/2 to 2 1/2 por cent, for
obligations other than Series E Dofense Savings Bonds, The lower limit of
the
PARES
and the short-torm ratos in general could have somo flexibility
without
Listurbing the maximum or long-term rato. The 2 1/2 per cont long-
total
rate
approximates closoly enough the general pattern of ratos which
her
already been established, and stoers a middlo course betwoon the dangor
of
minutial declino in the prioce of outstanding socurities on the
EMP 1404, and the dangor of an unattractive program which will not draw
F
solum funds from investors and invosting institutions on the other.
(4) Within the torms of the genoral financing program we
NEW
the catablishment and maintenance of such a pattern of ratos dous
TMP
the excessive volume of excess reserves which has characterized
mee
It does contemplate that should excess reserves shrink to a
FOR
endangers maintenance of the pattorn the Reserve System will
ficient volumo of roserves to enable banks to assist the
Cinadoing to whatever extent is necessary.
Regraded Unclassified
Federal Reserve Bank of Philaderphia.
CONFIDENTIAL
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM &
Plan for Utilizing Idle Business Funds by the Treasury
The vir program now calls for expenditures at the rate of $50-60,000,000.-
000 a year. la physical terms this means (1) that about one-half of our industrial
plant vill be sagaged directly on the production and transportation of war materials,
and (a) that sbout one-half of our human resources will be engaged either in the
arsed forces of in the production and transportation of supplies for the armed forces,
Is financial terms it means that the Treasury will have to acquire $50-60,000,000,000
of purchasing power. If inflation is to be minimized, these funds must be obtained
with as little resort to bank credit as possible.
How much can be raised through taxes and borrowed savings? Even if the tax
Insurence is doubled and borrowed savings exceed one billion dollars B month, there
would still be an inflationary gap to bridge. Based upon current estimatee of ex-
penditures and reasonable possibilities of expanding real income, 1t would appear
that the Treasury may have to resort to bank credit to a considerable extent, as is
indicated in the following examples.
POSSIBLE METHOD OF MEETING TREASURY REQUIREMENTS - IN BILLIONS
1942-1943
1941-1942
1942-1943
(extress)
Extimated ascreas procurable from:
Taxas
$12
$24
$26
2
5
6
Government Igust funds
8
12
14
Defense fairingo Securities
$22
$41
$46
Total evailable
Total
Treasury (wor and ordinary)
33
62
62
need
M
the
Enset so
sdit, If not available from other nources.
$11
$21
$16
The
assumption " to the amount that can be secured from taxes and borrowed savings
are
proteile
vr-optimistic, but they suggest the urgency for exploring all possible
Rources
if inflation is to be curbed.
isions have already been undertaken by the Treasury to rateo a. large
Regraded Unclassified
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\
pertice of
squšted funds through taxation and through the sale of Defense Bonds
there exists, however, within business enterprise itself, A large
se
ally inflationary funds, particularly if used for nondefense pur-
volume of
the funds consist of business balances available after taxation
power.
sccruale
1
H
set aside and business operating requirements have been met. No
adequate provision has yet been made to use this money in the war effort.
spacial attention must be given to this potential market for Treasury f1-
assing legility (1) the amounts involved may become huge as the year progresses, (2)
these funds is large part are not properly subject to taxation, and (3) Treasury ob-
ligations MY available for the investment of these funds are not particularly suit-
able to the needs of the situation. What in required, obviously, is a special con-
sideration of the kinds of Federal securities best adapted to meet the needs of busi-
sees concerns for the investment of idle business funds end a special organization to
promote the sale of these securities to business enterprises.
large business balances will arise during 1942 out of (a) surplus earnings
not needed for immediate expansion, (b) liquidation of current assets (accounts re-
coivable and investories), and (c) depreciation accruals. In view of prospective
shortages of materials, it is probable that enterprises not angaged directly on war
production will not be in a position to replace current inventories during the coming
par If La ruplace capital equipment for which depreciation is taken. It is impossi-
ble
to closely the funds that may become available from these two sources
but
there total may well aggregate as much as $10,000,000,000, Part of the funds so
released
an be used to repay indebtedness. The remainder of the funds should be
Teasury obligations. Such investment will make them available to finance.
Rs
without inflationary effects and will leave business enterprise in a
strong
al position to re-acquire materials and re-equip plant when the emer-
The amounts 80 invested should be as large as possible, because, to
lation, it is essential to postpene as long as possible all deferable
ditures.
Regraded Unclassified
195
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelyhia,
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY VAB FINANCING
MEMORANDUM B
What is the Amount of Business Funds
Available for War Financing?
The minimum amount of business funds in the United States available for in-
restment in Gevernment securities might be placed at $7 billion. Reserve Of this total prob-
ably over #780 million might be procured in the Third Federal District.
Conservative estimates made informally by the National Bureau of Economic
Besearch at the request of the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia indicate the fol-
loving volume of business funds that are now available or will become available dur-
105 1942,
Available
Sources of funds
Total
for investment
(Dollar figures in billions)
in 1942
in Government
securities
1. Cash balances
$10.0
$1.4
26.6
2.7
2, Inventory
3. Undistributed earnings
2.6
1.1
4. Depreciation accruals
4.3
1.9
TOTAL
$7.1
Large concerns (assets over $1 million).
$4.6
Small concerns (assets under 21 million)
2.5
These estimates do not include cash that may be derived from collection of
receivablem, giving an additional sum of $500 million.
The break-down by grand totals and by groups shows the following:
Manu-
Con-
Serv-
Public
(000,000), smitted in figures)
factur-
Trade
struc-
Mining
ices
util.
Total
ing
tion
1.
Tristing
ansh balances
$5,876
$1,990
$420
$133
$450
$1,170
$10,039
50
-
1,420
- purchase U.S. sec
1,370
-
i
2.
Idditional
Inventories
14,413
10,450
580
80
300
795
26,618
in 1942
1,325
2,130
0
o
0
o
3,455
- purchase U.S. sec.
retirent. of notes pay.)
1,608
0
o
0
0
2,648
1,040
I.
The
93
25
60
505
2,598
ed earnings
1,615
300
- purchase U.S. sec
750
205
50
0
40
50
1,095
4.
Non accruals
1,985
450
180
110
400
1,200
4,325
. purchase U.S. sec....
955
285
45
40
300
300
1,925
June
1942.
Regraded Unclassified
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM C
What Type of Treasury Security Would be Most
Suitable for Sale to Business Concerns?
Informal contact with the Presidents and Treasurers of business concerns in
Philadelphis indicates:
1. Approciation of the public need of pressing the sale of Treasury securi-
the to business concerns in order to siphon off cash balances now avail-
able or to become available in 1942 through inventory liquidation, col-
lection of receivables, accumulated depreciation accruals, etc.
2. Villingness to participate in a program such as has been suggested by
the Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
3. The importance of bringing out a new type of Treasury security tailor-
made to fit the problem of business concerns.
This memorandum is specifically directed toward the last problem - the need
for a special type of security for this purpose. There is general agreement that
Treasury securities now available are not particularly suited to the investment of
idle cash balances of corporations. There 1e also general agreement that the issu-
SECE of - suitable security would make directly available to the Treasury large
amounts of cash that at present are left on deposit and are made available only
through recourse to the banks.
It 1a suggested that a special issue of Treasury notes similar to that pro-
posed last year by Chairman Eccles would meet the needs outlined. Such notes would
be la the manner outlined in Memorandum D. They would have the following
characteriatics.
1. subjecty - 3 years. or 5 years.
1.
birted could be issued on 4 basis that each soupon
be
for a definite mount rising from say a 1/2 per cent
for
the first equapon 10 a 1 per cent rate for three-year
I
and
1-1/2 per eent rate for five-year naturity for
Itad everyon.
alered.
ptiable, but elegible 8.6 collateral at the Reserve Bank.
ble by the Treasury on three months' notice after six months from
no. Interest for the portion of the period during which securities
sened to be paid at coupon rate for the full period.
1542.
Regraded Unclassified
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM D
How to Sell Treasury Securities to Business Concerns
PROPOSED VOLUNTARY ORGANIZATION TO PROMOTE THE SALE
OF TREASURY SECURITIES TO BUSINESS CONCERNS
IN THE THIRD FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT
UNITED STATES TREASURY
FEDERAL RESERVE SYSTEM
THIRD FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT
BUSINESS VICTORY FUND COMMITTEE
Business men
Bankers
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
INDUSTRIAL AREA COMMITTEES
Altoons Allentown, Etc.
Wilkes-
Wilmington
Barre
Members of regional committees should represent such
industries as manufacturing, trade, construction, min-
ing, public utilities, and services, as local condi-
tions warrant.
1. The Feieral Reserve Bank of Philadelphia is to set up & well-integrated working
organization for the Third Federal Reserve District. It should have an appro-
priete Htle, as explanatory and suggestive as possible. For example, it may be
desipated as - -
BUSINESS VICTORY FUND COMMITTEE
2. This signization is to be established by industrial areas, or combination of
having due regard to industrial structure of each area.
inees Victory Fund Committee is to be represented by one business
and one banker from each area, and by the Federal Reserve Bank.
Regraded Unclassified
3.)
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(Memoration
primary purpose of this Committee is to provide organiza-
Jacal material and to cover all parts of the District and all
ing industries therein.
(w)
ittee 1n to appoint an Executive Committee consisting of three
men, three bankers and the President of the Federal Reserve
-
his alternate.
The function of the Executive Committee is to develop the
program and to direct the campaign among business concerne.
The Reserve Bank is to provide the needed facilities for
purpose.
3.
Redings ittees. Under the direction of the Executive Committee, representa-
time - the Business Victory Fund Committee are to organize appropriate local
come)
within their respective areas.
3
DE sizo of such committees should be large enough, but not too large,
1
ble its members to canvass industrial establishments within the
ATEA).
(b) ittee members should be responsible business executives, as they
sto to be the effective saleamen of Treasury securities designed for
as purpose.
(e)
as
chairmen of such local committees should be members of the general
ittee and should be responsible to the Executive Committee.
4. The equaly of Treasury securities is to be handled by the Reserve Bank, as
Marki Agrot -
(a)
-
laserve Bank is to issue the security directly upon receipt of
leations and payments, or
(a)
s
Reserve Bank may issue the security in due course through the banks
rised for this purpose.
Reserve Bank, as Fiscal Agent, 1 e to be directly responsible for the
tioning of the organization, assisting the Treasury in every way to
nuccess of the campaign.
Treasury is to define general policy and to provide suitable se-
Ay for sale.
* is to advance the necessary expenses, such expenses to be re-
sed by the Treasury in the usual manner.
Regraded Unclassified
Federal Reserve Bank of Philadelphia.
BUSINESS FUNDS FOR NONINFLATIONARY WAR FINANCING
MEMORANDUM I
Would the Proposal to Sell Special Securities
To Business Concerns be Acceptable to Banks?
1+ Withdrawalz of deposits by business concerns for purchase of Government securi-
tiee would not result in hardship to banks.
(a) As the Treasury spends borrowed funds, banks receive nov deposits
imediately.
(b) Large banks in New York City would probably be the heaviest losers
of business deposits but they, too, would soon regain the funds
through Treasury operations.
2. Deposit withdrawls may lessen the burden on the capital structure of many banks,
(a) While this effect may be temporary, it will indicate the fluidity of
funds and tend to lessen the pressure for higher capital ratios.
(b) This would be desirable because (1) at present it would be difficult
to raise capital locally and (2) it might leasen the concern of super-
visory authorities in this respect.
3. As an integral part of the program to curb inflation, the proposed plan would be
in the interest of sound banking and credit.
(a) Inflation and deflation are injurious to banking: they disrupt values
and expose assets to undue risk.
(b) A spiral and tailspin of prices impoveriah the people, destroy savings,
increase cost to the Government and the taxpayer, and undermine the
capital and credit structures.
(c) The plan provides for noninflationary borrowing as against inflationary
borrowing from commercial banks.
4. Active support of the proposed plan by the bankers will aid in war financing,
help 1b curbing inflation, and assist in safeguarding the credit structure
against current and prospective dislocations.
Ca) Visdom and self-interest require cooperation, as the war must be won
regardless of financial difficulties.
(b) Cooperation in the use of funds may forestall the need for further
over-all and selective credit controls, including adjustment in re-
quired reserves.
(es
The effect of the proposal will be to minimise a post-war slump.
w The support of the plan would result in good public relationship.
January le, 1942.
Regraded Unclassified
200
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION
DATE February 2, 1942
TO
Secretary Morgenthau
FROM George Buffington
You may be interested in the attached one sheet
poster being sent to exhibitors by the National Screen
Service Corporation. I am also attaching a photostatic
copy of the publicity which appeared in the Motion Picture
Herald on January 31.
GB.
Regraded Unclassified
201
MOTION PICTURE HERALD
Donald Duck Shows the Nation How
Disney Cartoon
(**)
TREASURY DEPARTMENT
istributed Free
WASHINGTON
or Treasury
January 28, 1942
To the Maving Picture Exhibitor Addressed
Dear Bir:
the
Very 8000 you will be offered a new Donald
Duok picture in teshnicolor entitled "The New Spirit*
which 10 very entertaining. It was made especially
for the United States Treasury by Walt Disney as 4
contribution to the nation's war affort. It carries
a patriotic ******* to every American, showing through
the medium of Donald Duok how each citizen can do his
or her bit by paying his income tax promptly.
Tble pleture will have widespread publicity,
and I believe your patrone will be looking for it
engerly. It will be offered to you free and 2 hope
that you will aleot to show it.
Since its greatest effectiveness will be
between now and March 18, 1 further hope that you will
show it as soon " you can get it, and then send 1%
along without delay so that the next exhibitor say
show it promptly.
1
I shall appreciate very much your coopera-
Um
tion.
Sincerely yours,
Henry
Sprind las Inco granted los 1/2 Services of the Invoice to
allowing Ilvm to reproduce the letter, with (ignature, in 493 promote or advertion
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Regraded Unclassified
202
MOTION PICTURE DAILY
January 29, 1942
Auks Exhibitors' Aid
On Disney Tax Short
Supplary of the Treasury
Hinry Morgenthau has ad-
dressed . letter to all exhibi-
(ifs urging them to show the
Denoy Bonald Duck cartoun.
"The New Xpirit." made for
the Treasury Department and
the importance of
early income tax payments.
The subject is heims distrib-
ated through the War Activi-
time Cummitter- Motion Pie-
fare Intents by National
with armier
1 reproduction of the letter
and a review of the subject
an 00 l'ave 1.
Uncle Sam Needs Your Help
REASURY DEPARTMENT
WASHINGTON
January 24, 1948
1a the Maving Picture Exhibitor Addressed
Dear Bir:
Vary soon you will be offered a new Donald
Duck picture la teahnicalor entitled "The Sex Spirit"
which 18 very entertaining. Is vas made sapecially
for the United States Treasury by Walt Disney as .
contribution to the nation's war affort. It carries
A patrintis 16 every American, showing through
the medium of Donald Duck how such citizen can do this
of her bit by paying his income tax promptly.
This ploture will have widespress publicity.
and 1 believe your patrons will be looking for it
engerly. IN will be affered to you free and I hope
that you will sleet to show it.
Since its greatest effectiveness will be
between DOV and March 14, I further hope that you will
above is as soon " you un get it, and then wend 11
along without dalay so that the next exhibitor say
show it promptly.
I stall supreciate vary such your enoyers-
1100-
Sincerely yours,
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OFFICE OF
WILLIAM RANDOLPH HEARST
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WYNTOON
McCLOUD, CALIFORNIA
February 2, 1942.
Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr.,
THE secretary OF THE TREASURY,
Washington, D. C.
My dear Mr. Secretary :
I appreciate very highly your
kind letter of January 30.
Every American desires to be of some service
in the present situation, and it 18 a great gratifica-
tion to know that you feel that our newspapers are
making a real contribution.
We will continue to do our utmost, stimulated
by your generous encouragement, for which we all thank
you most sincerely.
Very faithfully yours,
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January 30, 1942
Dear Mr. Hearst:
The "Buy a bomber" campaign now being
concucted by your newspapers parallels the plan
shereby the people of certain cities have provided
funds for military equipment by the purchase of
befense Bonds and Stamps.
The regular purchase of Defense Bonds and
Stemps by every American is a program which gives
each of us continual opportunities to strike added
5lows for freedom.
Your newspapers are making a real contribu-
tion to this program.
Sincerely,
(Signed) Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Mr. William Rendolph Hearst
"yntoon
LoCloud, California
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William Randolph Hearst
January 9, 1942
San Simeon
California
Delighted to hear that your newspapers are urging their
readers to buy bombers with Defense Savings Stamps stop
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Every little
purchase will help if it is repeated every payday stop Every stamp
you can sell will strike 8. blow for freedom
Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Secretary of the Treasury
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My dear Mr. Postmaster General:
Thank you very much for your good letter
of January 24. I em deeply grateful for the
superb cooperation which you personally and
elso your associates are giving us in the
Defense Savings Progrem.
Our people tell me that they have net
several times in the lest few days with
Mr. Helmer and Mr. Hargrove of your Department.
I understand that these men have been designated
to carry on the work 80 ably cerried on by
Mr. Imus during the past year.
You may be sure that every assistance will
be given in the preparation of the Postal
Bulletin which you suggest. We know you will
feel free to call upon us et eny time that you
believe we oan help.
Sincerely,
1. 11.
The Honorable,
The Postmaster General,
Washington, D. C.
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Office of the Postmaster General
Mashington, D. G.
January 24, 1942.
Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr.
Secretary of the Treasury
Fashington, D.C.
My dear Mr. Secretary:
I have received with your letter of January 7, a copy
of your letter of December 29 to the heads of bureaus and
divisions of your Department with respect to the purchase of
defense savings bonds and stamps by employees of the
Department, urging that where possible employees make larger
per capita purchases.
I have arranged for meetings with postmasters, and thus
far have met with postmasters in Boston, New York and Washington,
and contemplate several other meetings in the course of the next
three weeks. At these conferences, among other things, I have
been encouraging the postmasters to devote special emphasis to
the participation by employees in the defense bond and stamp
program.
I have in mind that sometime after this series of confer-
ences it might be helpful, at least to the postal service, if I
issued a postal bulletin explaining not only the necessity for
participation because of the needs of the government, but also
calling attention to the fact that the withdrawal of past
savings is not as important as the use of current income. In
that connection, I would appreciate having some member of your
Defense Savings Staff collaborate with Mr. Arthur C. Helmer, of
this Department, in the preparation of such & bulletin.
I feel confident that as a result of these conferences
and such a bulletin, the amount of bonds and stamps purchased
regularly by employees of the postal service would be materially
increased.
Sincerely yours,
From Owder
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Postmaster General.
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February 2, 1942
Dear Low:
I am very sorry to have to accept your
resignation 8.5 Chairman of the Defense Savings
Committee for Greater New York.
You have been of immense help to us in
setublishing our llen York organization, and
I should like you to know how much all of us
nt the Treasury approciate what you have done.
I an sure that with the foundation that has
now been laid, we can expect fine results.
Your new work in England will enable you
to give still greater service on one of the
front lines of the war effort, and I wish you
every success in the important work which you
are about to undertake.
Sincerely,
(Signed) Heary
non. Lewis W. Douglas,
Co-Chairman, New York State
Defense Savings Committee,
1270 Sixth Avenue,
lien York, 3. Y.
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TREASURY DEPARTMENT
DEFENSE SAVINGS STAFF
NEW YORK
HEADQUARTERS-1270 SIXTH AVENUE. NEW YORK. N. Y.-CIRCLE 6-3100
ALBANY
BUFFALO
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January 28, 1942
et YORK STATE COMMITTEE
39. HEREAT H. LEMAN
HONORY OWN
HOURD c. PATTERSOR, a
STATE CHAIRMAN
las LYTLE HULL
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Dear Mr. Secretary:
STATE ADMINISTRATOR
act a SMITH
ASSOCIATE STATE ADMINISTRATOR
I suppose it isn't necessary - perhaps
LEMIS W. DOUGLAS
it isn't even proper - for me to submit in
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writing my resignation as Chairman of the Defense
- COURTLANDT D. BARNES
Savings Staff for the lower New York area, but
M. LETCHWORTH
MEMAN, LIPETATE NEW York
at any rate I want you to know in black and
Md. OSCAR SOLDERT
white how grateful I an to you for having let
Vice-Charman
me help a little in the establishment of the
EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE
organization. I want you to know, too, that
QUY EMERSON
CUMMANY
I am not without regret in resigning as
MTARD POPE
Chairman for this area.
4DRY BRUERE
FRANK 1. COLUMBUS
I hope to see you next week.
DANNE c. DONOVAN
A ARTHUR GETMAN
BALTER 1. GIFFORD
DAY H. HEMANN
ATHUR H. KUONER
Ever faithfully yours,
TROMAS 4. LYONS
WILLIAM L MYERS
W. REVENUE
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CUSTAVE STREET,
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The Honorable Henry S. Morgenthau,
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Washington, D. C.
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