Volume 631, May 4 – May 5, 1943

DIARY Book 631 May 4-5, 1943 Regraded Unclassified - A - Book Page Advertising Association of America See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds Allied Newspaper Council See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds - B - - Bolivia See Latin America - C - Cowles, Gardner See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (2nd War Loan Drive) - D - Davis, Elmer See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (2nd War Loan Drive) Deferments, Military Discussion of Treasury group by HMJr, Gaston, and Thompson - - 5/4/43 631 45 a) Copy of personnel involved attached 52 b) List of key positions in Treasury 55 - I - Financing, Government War Savings Bonds: Smith, Fred: Asked to associate himself with Treasury on full-time basis - 5/4/43 88 a) Rubicam thanked by HMJr - 5/8/43: See Book 632, page 168 b) Rubicam reply - - 5/13/43: Book 633, page 183 Payroll Deduction Plan: Issuing agents asked for report on lapse between completion of payments and delivery of bonds - 5/4/43 96 George (Senator, Georgia) in Chamber of Commerce speech advocates "encouraging purchase of War Bonds out of current earnings rather than compulsory savings" - 5/5/43 176,184 a) Speech as inserted in Congressional Record - 5/8/43: See Book 632, page 209 Non-redemption at end of war: Wallace's letter concerning - 5/5/43 210,211,213 a) Likert's study 215 2nd War Loan Drive: Sproul, Cowles, Elmer Davis, Outdoor Advertising Association of America, Allied Newspaper Council, Gulf 011 Corporation thanked for assistance - 5/4/43 72, etc. - 1- - (Continued) Book Page Foreign Funds Control Patenotre, Eleanor Elverson: Philadelphia Inquirer stock sale and tax claims against discussed in Paul memorandum - 5/5/43 631 227 - G - George, Walter F. (Senator, Georgia) See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds Gulf Oil Corporation See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (2nd War Loan Drive) - L - Latin America Bolivia: Current situation discussed in view of impending Presidential visit - 5/5/43 229 Leffingwell, Russell See Post-War Planning Lend-Lease Report of purchases for week ending May 1, 1943 - 5/4/43 140 U.S.S.R.: Third Soviet Protocol - supplementary request for supply, July 1, 1933-June 30, 1944 - 5/4/43 156 United Kingdom: for sterling area Gold and dollar assets and estimated balance of payments/ for next three months - 5/4/43 143 Aircraft despatched, week ending April 27, 1943 - British Air Commission report - 5/4/43 154 Likert, Rensis See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds - M - - Myers, William I. (Cornell University) Day (President, Cornell)-HMJr conversation concerning Myers - 5/4/43 92 - N - Newspaper Council, Allied See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds - 0 - Outdoor Advertising Association See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (2nd War Loan Drive) Regraded Unclassified - P - Book Page Patenotre, Eleanor Elverson See Foreign Funds Control Philadelphia Inquirer See Foreign Funds Control: Patenotre, Eleanor Elverson Post-War Planning Leffingwell's comments on British stabilization plan - 5/5/43 631 232 Press Releases, Treasury Distribution improvement requested by HMJr - 5/4/43 133 a) Schwarz memorandum 134 - R - Revenue Revision Revenue Act of 1943: Progress of bill discussed by HMJr, Paul, Blough, and Surrey - 5/4/43 1 a) Doughton-HMJr conversations 2,171 b) Rayburn-HMJr conversation 7 c) McCormack-HMJr conversation 43 Carlson-Ruml bill rejected, 206-202 - 5/4/43 70 George (Senator)--Paul discussion on procedure in Senate - 5/5/43 200 (See also Book 632, pages 220 and 222 - 5/10/43) - S - Smith, Fred See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds Sproul, Allan See Financing, Government: War Savings Bonds (2nd War Loan Drive) - T - Taxation See Revenue Revision Treasury Press Releases See Press Releases, Treasury - U - - U.S.S.R. See Lend-Lease United Kingdom See Lend-Lease 1 May 4, 1943 9:45 a.m. TAXES Present: Mr. Paul Mr. Blough Mr. Surrey H.M.JR: Where are we as of this morning on the bill? MR. PAUL: We simply don't know. We made all kinds of inquiries. I talked to twenty people, I guess, in the House. H.M.JR: Supposing I call up Doughton. MR. PAUL: I don't think you can get anything. Call up Sam Rayburn or McCormack. Doughton is in worse condi- tion than ever. H.M.JR: Let me start with Doughton. MR. PAUL: Doughton is pretty excited and not even what would be regarded as in his best form. MR. BLOUGH: No, he wasn't in his best form yesterday. He hollered around a good deal. MR. PAUL: Yes, but I was talking with him before he went up there. H.M.JR: I don't know whether the President has done any phoning or not. MR. PAUL: I tried to get Johnson but haven't been able to get him. I have talked to lots of them. I think, personally - if I had to make & bet I think I would bet on the Robertson plan. (The Secretary held a telephone conversation with Mr. Doughton, as follows:) Regraded Unclassified 2 May 4, 1943 9:51 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Mr. Doughton. HMJr: Hello. Robert Doughton: All right. HMJr: Henry talking. D: All right, Henry. HMJr: How're you coming, young fellow? D: Well, you can't tell. We're in a struggle down here. I don't see anything to be alarmed about, but still we know we're in a hard bat- tle. You can't tell. HMJr: Are the - are our fellow Democrate all right? D: Well, those that are all right are. There're some that are, not, and there will be B. few, but just how many - I think some of the waver- ing are coming into line. HMJr: How about the leadership? D: Well, it seems to be doing fine. HMJr: The leadership 18 doing fine. D: They seem to be all right, yeah. We had a conference with them yesterday afternoon and we're having another one this morning at 10:30. HMJr: Yes D: I have no - no complaints to make of them at all. I - the - the Majority Leader 1s going to make a speech and maybe the Speaker too. HMJr: And D: I have a feeling as 1t 18 - and now I am satis- fied they are doing what they can to line up wavering members. Regraded Unclassified 3 - 2 - HMJr: Well, then it's different than it was last time. D: How's that? HMJr: It's different than it was last D: Well, I think so, yes. HMJr: Well, you D: I - I think 80. We can't tell. You see, they have been going home and you can't tell how - how many of them might not get back. They might use that as a - just want to dodge, you know, and use an excuse or something that they didn't get back. I can't tell. HMJr: You can't tell. D: Now if folks get here and there's - as fully 88 ? I think we'll - I think we'll win. HMJr: Good. Will you pick up any Republican votes? D: I don't know. Somebody said we're going to lose a few; that they've had a conference yesterday afternoon. I've been trying to find out about that this morning. They're trying awfully hard to whip them in line. HMJr: Yeah. D: I doubt if we'll pick up any. I - I will try to find out - I'll find out more about that. HMJr: Do you think you'll get 8. vote today? D: I - yes, I think 80, unless we decide it is better strategy to finish the debates today and wait un- til - and vote in the morning when perhaps there might be more - some of the members that are not here today might be here by tomorrow. I don't know. We'll decide that 88 we see how many are here. HMJr: Uh huh. D: We call the offices of those who are not here, you Regraded Unclassified - 3 - 4 D: know, and then if they're not here today, but they 11 probably be here tomorrow, why, we might let the vote go until morning. HMJr: Well, that sounds smart. D: How's that? HMJr: That sounds smart. D: We'll - we'll determine that when we see what - how many will not be here today. HMJr: Good. D: We can find - by just getting - I'm inquiring of all their offices, you know. HMJr: And .... D: We're checking on it the very best we can. HMJr: Anything we can do at this end? D: Well, I believe you're doing - but I don't know - you may think of it - I don't think of anything more than you're doing. You're doing a fine job and fits the will in every way. I think that the Speaker was going to call the Big Boss about 8. few wavering members. HMJr: Yeah. D: And it' s HMJr: Well, if you get any bright ideas, I'm sitting here. Be glad to help. D: Well, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. We appre- ciate your calling. HMJr: O. K. D: Goodbye. Regraded Unclassified 5 - 2 - MR. PAUL: I talked with Poulson, one of the leading Republicans, and he said he had twenty-one or twenty-two of them in line. That was before the conference yesterday afternoon. H.M.JR: I will see if the Speaker is there. MR. BLOUGH: Doughton doesn't seem very confident, does he? H.M.JR: I thought so, yes. The thing that is encouraging, usually he goes into this long dissertation on the leadership. MR. PAUL: McCormack made a radio speech - at least we supplied him with the material last Friday - so it looks as if he is pretty well in line. H.M.JR: I thought for once we got the jump on the publicity through that statement which was positive. Then the Republicans had to try to pull it down. We at least got ours out first. The press is terrible. I gave out the statement last night around six on the figures, and I couldn't see that either the Times or Tribune carried my war bond figures. My figures may have been too late, but if this had been a flop they would have found time to stick the thing in. MR. PAUL: What time did you give them out? H.M.JR: About six or six-thirty. I am not going to call McCormack. MR. PAUL: Except that he is supposed to do some rounding up. What are you going to say when you are asked for a statement if the Ruml plan is defeated? I thought we might give some thought to that because we were both 6 - 3 - criticized for gloating the last time. I didn't gloat so I don't know where they got that remark. I wondered if we should think about a statement to issue. (The Secretary held a telephone conversation with Mr. Rayburn, as follows:) 7 May 4, 1943 9:57 a.m. HMJr: Hello. Operator: Speaker Rayburn. HMJr: All right. Operator: Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. Speaker Rayburn: Yeah, Henry. HMJr: How are you, Sam? R: Pretty fair. I got some cold, but.... HMJr; I spent the night in your town the other night, Dallas. R: Yeah. HMJr: I heard R: Fred Florence Was telling me you were there. HMJr: Who? R: Fred Florence HMJr: Yeah. R: one of the bankers there. HMJr: Yeah, and I heard you were un dedicating a country school. I asked R: (Laughs) That's right. HMJr: where you were. R: I was making a pretty loud speech that night. HMJr: Were you? R: Yes. Regraded Unclassified 8 - 2 - HMJr: If it hadn't been 75 miles, I'd have fooled you and come out and heard you. R: God, I wish you'd have been there. HMJr: What? R: I wish you could have come by. HMJr: Was it good? R: There's some pretty cattle and some pretty country. HMJr: No pretty girls? R: No pretty girls, no. No, I don't fool with them down there. HMJr: I see. Just up here in Washington, hmm? R: (Laughs) HMJr: (Laughs) Well, anyway how - how are we coming on the tax bill? R: I think we're in pretty good shape. I'm - here in the office this morning I've been calling about fifteen fellows HMJr: Yeah. R: that weren't here. I gave - the Boss called me yesterday end I gave him his friend, Manny Celler, and Jennings Randolph and Jim O'Leary. HMJr: Yeah. R: Randolph and Celler were off the other time, and I don't think O'Leary was here. HMJr: Yeah. R: And I - I told Grace to have him call them. HMJr: Yes. R: Now we're picking up some of those that weren't here. Regraded Unclassified 9 - 3 - HMJr: Yeah. R: I don't know how those 23 Republicans are going to stand. I'm going to have a meeting with Jere and Bob HMJr: Yeah. R: and Disney at 10:30 HMJr: Good. R: and Fred Crawford was meeting with the - his 23 yesterday HMJr: Yeah. R: and he thought they were going to hold. I don't know. I think we're all right. HMJr: But the President called you yesterday? R: Yeah. HMJr: Well, he's good. R: Yes, he asked me if there was anything - how I thought - what I thought about it, and I told him I believed we were all right. You never can tell until it goes through HMJr: Yeah. R: and he asked if there was anybody he could call, so we're in here yesterday and I thought it would flatter these three fellows if he called them. HMJr: Be wonderful. R: And especially Celler and Jennings Randolph HMJr: Yeah. R: from West Virginia. Jim wasn't here - Jim O'Leary HMJr: Yeah. Regraded Unclassified 10 - 4 - R: and I don't know how he - how he stands, but he's pretty good to RO along. HMJr: Good. R: But we picked off several of the fellows that weren't here the other time, and we've got some of our fellows that made speeches the other time that are taking no stock this time. HMJr: Good. R: They're not - they're not speaking at all. HMJr: Uh huh. R: And I've HMJr: You mean speaking against it. R: Huh? HMJr: Not speaking against it. R: Not speaking for the Ruml thing, you know. HMJr: Right. Well, it sounds - and - and you've got your - your boys are all together at the top? R: Oh, yes. HMJr: McCormack and all. R: Oh, you bet, yeah, 100%. He and Bob are just like a new married couple. (Laughs) HMJr: Well, let's hope the honeymoon lasts through tonight. (Laughs) R: (Laughs) The old man 1s pretty nervous. HMJr: Yeah. Well, like a June bride. R: I - I kind of think we're all right, Henry. I don't know. HMJr: I said he's like a June bride. Regraded Unclassified 11 - 5 - R: A lot depends on - on these 23 Republicans. HMJr: Yeah. R: Fred Crawford thinks he's going to have them. Jere Cooper will have a report on that when he comes over here at 10:30, and if I think of any- thing you folks can do now I'll call you, Henry. HMJr: Do that. R: All right, old fellow. Goodbye. HMJr: Goodbye. Regraded Unclassified 12 - 4 - H.M.JR: They all sound pretty good. MR. PAUL: Those Republicans are going to stick, I am pretty sure, about twenty-one of them out of the twenty-five. H.M.JR: Where will all you guys be? MR. PAUL: In the members part. As soon as they vote Ruml down - - and that is going to be first - we will phone you, if you want. H.M.JR: Yes. MR. BLOUGH: I expect to be at the hearing. MR. PAUL: Roy doesn't go up there. He is at the trial. H.M.JR: What trial? MR. BLOUGH: The Port of Authority case. It was brought down here. MR. PAUL: But the point is, do you want us to consider what you should say - what statement? H.M.JR: Sure. Who will do it? MR. PAUL: We will. 13 May 4, 1943 10:10 a.m. FINANCING - ORGANIZATION PLANS Present: Mr. Bell Mr. Gaston Mr. Graves Mr. Duffington Mr. Odegard Mr. Peabody Mr. Robbins Mr. Gamble Miss Elliott H.M.JR: Have you any bright ideas, Dan? MR. BELL: No. H.M.JR: Have you got your report written in such shape, Mr. Graves, that you can give it to me? MR. GRAVES: Yes, I çan give it to you now. (Mr. Grave's plan number one handed to the Secretary.) H.M.JR: Our six o'clock figures didn't seem to make any of the papers. MR. BELL: They were a little late, I am afraid. H.M.JR: If they had been bad they would have made the papers, all right. Do you suppose they will be in the afternoon papers? MR. BELL: It was six-thirty before they got them, I am afraid. H.M.JR: But you would think the Washington papers would get them. The Post-- MR. BELL: The Post never carries anything on finance. Regraded Unclassified 14 - 2 - H.M.JR: Would you have somebody look at the New York afternoon papers today? See whether they carry them. MR. PEABODY: Yes, I will. MR. BELL: I had better see if those allotment figures are on the ticker. I didn't see those in the papers. H.M.JR: I didn't see anything. It doesn't speak very well for the press services. MR. BELL: Our telegram went to the rederal Reserve banks last night. They will have it. They will probably give it out. Mr. Eccles said that he would like to call the presi- dents in as soon as possible. They want a regular meeting of the presidents, anyhow, and they thought maybe they would call them in at such time as you might want to talk to them about organization. he was thinking somewhere around the 18th. H.M.JR: He is in no hurry, then? MR. BELL: Well, he thought they ought to have at least ten days to two weeks' notice. (Mr. Bell left the conference.) H.M.JR: Herbert, have you any bright ideas? MR. GASTON: No, I think no especially bright ideas. I read Mr. Robbins' outline and I think it is a very clear presentation of the subject, but I don't reach the same conclusions that he does. I think there is a very definite danger, as you said yesterday, in turning this whole organization over to the Federal Reserve Banks. I don't think we would be able to control the personnel and I think that we just can't afford to sacrifice the Regraded Unclassified 15 - 3 - value of the "ar Savings organization, which I am afraid we do, very largely, if we make this a Federal Reserve proposition. H.M. JR: Have you gone any further than that? MR. GASTON: I think that we want a consolidated organization. H.M.JR: This isn't prearranged. I haven't talked to anybody since yesterday, so there is nothing cooking. I don't know what Herbert is going to say. MR. GASTON: Well, I think first we have got topreserve the war Savings organization because I think it has been an efficient hard-working organization. I think we have to combine with it, in some way, facilities for working into higher levels; that is, the corporations and the larger investors. I am rather favorably inclined, unless there is some better plan offered, toward the plan that Harold suggests, which is working on the War Davings organization as a basis and then enlarging it to take in a special branch for making these larger solicitations, and leaving it to the Federal Reserve Banks to carry on the occasional campaigns, primarily in the banks. I think that they might also be given the responsibility for all financial corporations, including insurance companies, leaving to the expanded War Savings organization the soliticitation of all individuals and commercial and industrial corporations. I am just very much afraid that if we set up the thing as a permanent organization exclusively through the presi- dents of the Federal Reserve Banks, we are going to alienate a lot of very effective workers. We are going to lend weight to this argument that the thing is being turned over to the bankers, whether that should ultimately be the case or not. H.M.JR: Are you finished? (Mr. Bell re-entered the conference.) Regraded Unclassified 16 - 4 - MR. GASTON: Yes. H.M.JR: The thing that I would like to talk about is this. I would like to begin at the grass roots and work up. Suppose for a minute we talk about on the community level and then work it up from there. Start at the foundation and then work up. MR. ROBBINS: I think that is right. That is a spiendid approach. H.M.JR: Then gradually work up to finally reach my office. If we are going to organize - I think everybody is together in the room here that on the community level this should only be one organization. MR. GASTON: Except for bank solicitations - except for commercial bank subscriptions. H.M.JR: Yes, possibly. MR. BELL: I think you can forget any organization for banks. You don't need any. MR. GASTON: I don't think you need any. Just send out the word to the Feds. H.M.JR: Well, if we agree on that - excluding the banks from the community level-- MR. BELL: Exclude the banks from the drives and certainly you don't need any organization for bank financing. H.M.JR: What is that? MR. BELL: If you exclude the banks from the periodic drives, then you don't need any organization any more than we have had all along for bank financing - interim bank financing. 17 - 5 - H.M.JR: I have a strong inclination to keep the banks - the sale of securities to the banks, separate from the drive. MR. BELL: I agree with that, yet I think there are problems in doing it. We have to have a special type of security that we sell to the public that can't go into the banks, in order to keep the banks out of the drives. That is the thing that worries me a little. H.M.JR: Well, we could take those seven-eighths, or those two percents - we could have offered them a month earlier if we had wanted to. MR. BELL: Yes, but they go into the banks through individual channels. H.M.JR: Well, that is a matter of policing. MR. BELL: It is a little more than policing. You are offering a bank security to the public. It is very difficult to keep the banks out of the drive when you do that. A two- and-a-half is simple because the banks can't hold them for ten years. Maybe you could offer a two-and-a-half, and the savings bonds, and tax notes, and maybe a two-and-a-quarter twelve-year bond, and keep the banks out of the whole picture. H.M.J.R: I don't think that is too difficult. After all, the Comptroller of the Currency could rule that the banks could only buy such and such kind of securities and not offer those to the public - make them a strictly banking obligation. MR. BELL: Those I have mentioned, yes, but there are a lot of corporations and a lot of individuals that want seven-eighths. H.M.JR: Well, we can make it a little bit different for the individuals and the corporations. MR. BELL: I think we can work it, but it just isn't so simple as it might seem on its face. Regraded Unclassified 18 - 6 - H.M.JR: No, but if you wanted to you could offer a corporation a year and a quarter or a year and a half to make it just a little bit different. MR. BELL: Keep the registered, you get objection. H.M.JR: Don't let's make this too difficult. I mean, let's get back and talk about the community level, and let's say that in this, whatever the organization is in the county or the community, it is not going to include selling the banks. Let's just take that for a premise for 8. minute. MR. BELL: Sure. H.M.JR: If necessary we can dip the securities in the dye and say, "These are for the banks and the undyed are for the individuals.' But I mean, there are plenty of ways of doing it. MR. BELL: Tainted - tinted, I should have said. (Laughter) H.M.JR: Well, now, if you are going to have an organi- zation which is going to do a job in the community, what are we going to use? MR. GRAVES: Would you like me to comment on that? H.M.JR: It is an open meeting. MR. GRAVES: I think we would have at the community level - and I am now talking about the smaller communities because there would possibly be some variation from this in places like New York and Chicago where institutions of the kind that Herbert has just mentioned will mainly be found - but in the ordinary community we would have one single committee - say it is the War Savings Committee - it would be about what it has been in the past, plus a special addi- tional group whose responsibility it would be to canvass the larger investor classes, both corporate and individual. That would be one change from the present setup. 19 - 7 Then I think, too, there ought to be created in each one of these local committees a special drives sub-division which would have the responsibility for the periodic drive in the community as distinct from the regular continuing operations which go on all the time. In my opinion it would be very simple to do those things. We have now in a number of States - I should say we had in the April drive in a number of States - an organization that was substantially that. Take Indiana as a typical case of that. Mr. Pulliam, the chairman of the -ar Savings organization, was, of course, chairman of this drive for Indiana. He had already in Indiana, as the result of the early organization of the War Savings Staff; special groups attached to each of his local committees. They originally were intended to promote the sale of F and G Bonds. He converted those groups for this drive into groups to canvass the large investor category. H.M.JR: Who is that man ? Mr. GRAVES: Pulliam. H.M.JR: what is his position? MR. GRAVES: He is chairman of the War Davings Staff in Indiana, and was designated by Mr. Young in Chicago to head up the drive in that part of Indiana which is located in the Chicago Federal Reserve District. He just utilized the same organization that he had built originally in Indiana. To whatever number of people he had in the war Savings organization were added some hundreds of people from the Victory Fund groups in Indiana. MR. GAMBLE: Three hundred. MR. GRAVES: They supplemented the organization which he had there 80 that in Indiana you had a single committee in each locality which embraced a special group whose responsibility it was to reach the larger investor people. I think that was a very effective and a very successful operation in Indiana. Regraded Unclassified 20 - 8 - Now, we can go to the State of Washington, say. It happened in the State of Washington our State chairman, Mr. Ferris was also the regional manager, as I understand, of the Victory Fund groups in that State. In Washington, again, for this drive, you had in each community one single committee which consisted of the regular groups which worked everywhere in the war Savings organization, plus special groups which functioned particularly with reference to the larger investor people. H.M.JR: what is Mr. Pulliam's background? MR. GRAVES: Mr. Pulliam is a radio and newspaperman. Mr. Ferris, in Washington, is a banker. He is, I think, vice president of a bank at Spokane. MR. GASTON: Spokane and Bastern Trust. He was at this meeting in Spokane. H.M.JR: He is State chairman? MR. GRAVES: State chairman of the War Savings Staff for "ashington. H.M.JR: And everything was under him? MR. GRAVES: Everything was under him; that is, every- thing was under him and Karl kichards, who was, in the absence of Mr. Saul Haas, in charge of this drive, so far as the War Davings organization was concerned. But at the community level which I am talking about, there was one group in each. H.M.JR: Are you familiar with these two States? MR. ROBBINS: I haven't visited either of those two States, but I wanted to ask Harold if I might - you have read my suggestion, I take it, haven't you? MR. GRAVES: I heard it, Bill. I haven't had a chance to read it. I haven't & copy. Regraded Unclassified 21 - 9 - MR. ROBBINS: There isn't any difference on this community level approach. We are all in agreement. MR. GASTON: I don't think there is. It is a question of whether we funnel it through the Federal Reserve Bank or not. H.M.JR: I am not ready for that yet. MR. ROBBINS: But the point I wanted to make for you is, I think what Harold is saying, and what I anticipated in my presentation, are almost identical at the community level. MR. GASTON: Yes, it is a question of expanding. I think everybody agrees we want to retain the value of this War Davings organization which we have built over a period of the last two years. I would differ, I think, a little bit from Harold on this matter of community organization. Rather than taking in the bankers, what you might call the Victory Fund group, solely for campaigns, I would have proper representation of that group as 8. member of the permanent organization for ideas and for steady work on those larger classes of investors. MR. GRAVES: You are right. MR. GASTON: I don't think it matters whether we call this the War Savings Staff in the State or not, or change it to 8. somewhat different name - call it the war Finance Committee - but I think that we want one organization, and we want it expanded to take in that other group, with proper representation for both. And then I think we want to have means to assure that the type of solicitation we have carried on in the factories and the cooperation with the unions and the cooperation of the women's groups shall con- tinue on this local level. H.M.JR: Of course, in New York State originally Perry Hall worked under Patterson. That is the way it was first, wasn't it? 22 - 10 - MR. BUFFINGTON: Yes. H.M. JR: And then they took him out from under that, didn't they? MR. BUFFINGTON: Yes. I don't know how active he was. MR. GRAVES: I think they had never perfected their plans for work under the "ar Savings Staff before the change was made. H.M.JR: I want to just take a little more time. I haven't been to Indiana or Washington, but in Indiana there is a man by the name of Pulliam and he is in - was in charge of everything in this drive. MR. GRAVES: That is right. In that part of Indiana which is in the Chicago Federal Reserve District. H.M.JR: As chairman of the War Savings? MR. GRAVES: That is right. MR. BELL: Young designated him to represent the War Savings Committee in this drive. H.M.JR: George, from your standpoint, how did it work in Indiana? MR. BUFFINGTON: Wonderfully - excellently; Pulliam tied in to Mr. Young and the Federal Reserve organization for general instructions, and all the activities in the State of Indiana, as I understand it, were under Mr. Pulliam's direction. H.M.JR: What did you hear in Indiana from your men? MR. BUFFINGTON: Fine results, and there was very close relationship between the Federal Reserve and Pulliam's organization. H.M.JR: Did they take their orders from Pulliam? Regraded Unclassified 23 - 11 - MR. BUFFINGTON: Sure, everybody worked in the State of Indiana, so far as I know. In fact, largely it was the Pulliam organization with some personnel that heretofore had been active in the State - I think of Gary, Indiana, particularly, and one or two other sections where they had been identified with the Victory Fund Committee, they worked under Pulliam. lie headed the thing. There was no difficulty at all. MR. BELL: The whole Chicago District worked very well. MR. BUFFINGTON: That same thing was true in Iowa under Clark. MR. GAMBLE: In Iowa, Clark was the administrator for the whole program and there were two chairmen - Cocalette you met. H.M.JR: I never met Cocalette. I may have shaken hands with him, but that is all. MR. GAMBLE: That is all you did. Then the gentleman that spoke on the pro gram was co-chairman and Clark was administrator for the War Savings Staff for Iowa - for the whole financing program. MR. GASTON: There was Dr. Nollen-- MR. GAMBLE: Dr. John Nollen. MR. GASTON: Retired president of Grinnell College. H.M.JR: How did the women make out in Indiana? MISS ELLIOTT: Excellent. We have had reports from the State - the best reports, I think, that have come in from any State up to date - full reports - have come from Indiana. Most of the counties - they worked on the county organiza- tion there, and most of those counties went over the top in their quota, and the city organizations functioned very well. We have a good many special reports from city organizations 24 - 12 - But of course they were working primarily with the War Savings Staff technique and methods in using the system and plans that they had formerly used in the regu- lar War Savings Staff methods. MR. BUFFINGTON: While you are on the Seventh District might it not be well for the other side of the picture to go to a State like that part of Michigan falling in the Seventh District? As I understand it there was little coordination be- tween Isbey's organization in Michigan and the Victory Fund Committee organization, which is the opposite of what you had in Iowa and in Indiana. H.M.JR: What would you people think of sending word to Pulliam to have him come in here - get on a plane and come in and let me talk to him? MR. GAMBLE: I think it would be a very good idea. H.M.JR: If he is such an outstanding success-- MR. GASTON: Saul Haas is in town and he has some ideas on this subject. H.M.JR: He talks so much. MR. ROBBINS: We are getting almost complete unanimity of opinion on this point. I mean, we are all together. H.M.JR: I would like to talk with Pulliam. 1 have heard about Indiana. Does anybody see any objection to talking to Pulliam? MR. BUFFINGTON: I don't see any. H.M.JR: What woman have you got in Indiana? MISS ELLIOTT: Ahigren, she is the State chairman, and then they have got a very good county organization of women. From the very beginning we have had a very good county organization. 25 - 13 - There is good leadership, which I think is the impor- tant thing in localizing this thing - State and local leadership. They know their leaders; they work with them and they follow that pattern. H.M.JR: I wonder who our labor man is in Indiana. MR. GAMBLE: I don't know, by name, Mr. Secretary. H.M.JR: Well, if I understand the thing, in Iowa-- MR. GAMBLE: The man you met, Porin, was the chairman of the program. He was the war Davings man. H.M.JR: Locally? MR. GAMBLE: lie was the chairman of the program - the little fellow that you spent some time with. H.M.JR: Who was the man in charge at DesMoines? MR. GAMBLE: Clark. H.M.JR: Was he over the whole works? MR. GAMBLE: Yes, sir, he was administrator for the whole program. H.M.JR: Did Victory Fund come under him? MR. BELL: War "inance came under him. MR. GAMBLE: The top Victory Fund man in the State of Iowa, and the chairman of the War Savings Staff of Iowa were co-chairmen of the drive and Clark was the administrator. MR. BUFFINGTON: Mr. Horton, a banker, worked with Mr. Clark. There was no difficulty. MR. GAMBLE: Cocalette was the county man. H.M.JR: How did it work from your standpoint, George? Regraded Unclassified 26 - 14 - MR. BUFFINGTON: Fine. We had no difficulty in the Seventh District at all except in Detroit. I don't think the two things were coordinated as closely as they were in Iowa, Indiana, Illinois, and Wisconsin. H.M.JR: From what you people say here - let me see if I have the thing straight so far - you say that where we have 8, man like Pulliam, let's say, who is as good as Pulliam and can get along as Pulliam - take a man like that and say, "The State of Indiana is yours and you are responsible for raising the money that we need for the whole State" - and then - "except for the bank subscriptions; and we want you to organize a special drives committee for these drives which will come two or three times a year." Now, who disagrees with that? I am not saying this is my idea - I am just groping. MR. ROBBINS: I don't see that there is any difference of opinion. H.M.JR: What did you call it in your report? A campaign committee? MR. ROBBINS: I called it a campaign. That is just 8. word. MR. BUFFINGTON: Mr. Secretary, while that is working in those States you have just mentioned, I don't think that you can logically conclude that that same condition would work as effectively in some other States as it is working in Indiana. In other words, take the Fourth District, Ohio. There has not been that same close relationship there. H.M.JR: Well, what I am trying to get, George, is this. I am trying to - you can't help but be personal in some of these things. Why did I bring Gamble down to Washington? Gambie did an outstanding job in the State of Washington; he attracted our attention, so we brought him down here to help us. 27 - 15 - Now, let's say Pulliam has done an outstanding job in Indiana and made the thing work. what we are groping for here is a pattern. The fact that in Ohio they have four offices and it doesn't work - all right. I an just saying - let's call it the Indiana plan, to give it 8. name - after many more meetings, let's say the Indiana plan for a State community is what we want; then we say, "In other States you have got to conform." Now, in Ohio it might be your Victory Fund man who should be the State chairman. I don't know. But I am saying that each State should be examined to get the right plan to carry out the Indiana plan. MR. BUFFINGTON: I agree. H.M.JR: And it may be your fellow, who I know there, may be the right man. Now maybe in Michigan, because they don't get along, our fellow - the War Savings fellow, what- ever his name is - maybe he is the wrong man. MR. GASTON: Isbey. H.M.JR: I wouldn't for a minute say I want a - I want a man that has worked. After all, we can sit here and do the thing on paper - make pretty charts from now until the war is over and not hit it right, but if you get a State like Indiana where it has clicked, and people have been able to sit down and everybody agrees, after plenty of thought, that that is the way to do it, then the thing to do is to look for the individuals in the various States to carry it out. Do you and I differ on that? MR. BUFFINGTON: That is all right. MR. GASTON: I think that is quite an important point because that implies that we here in washington will retain a large measure of supervision over the selection of personnel in the States, and I don't think the thing can work unless that is-- Regraded Unclassified 28 - 16 - H.M.R: On paper it is supposed to be that way. I mean, I have the veto power on all of them, on paper. But we just haven't had time enough to do it. MR. GASTON: I think that is essential, and another thing; I think that it would be a mistake to take in the Victory Fund crowd, to imagine that they are going to be the special campaigns committee and confine them to that. I would rather have a special campaign committee which would take in the various groups, which include your War Savings people; and I think that this group and the group that was represented in your Victory Fund Committee, ought to have continuous responsibility as a part of the general committee; and I think that they should be provided with a tap issue or something of the kind that they can sell all the time, so as to retain their continuous services. (The Secretary held a telephone conversation with Mr. McCormack.) MR. ROBBINS: There are two points I would like to make on this. The Indiana experience was a good experience. I think in evaluating it, really, the whole way through, we must also look back and find out what sort of help, responsibility, guidance, and leadership was coming down from the strata above Mr. Pulliam in this coordinated effort, and to that, of course, we have to look back to Mr. Young in Chicago. Mr. Young seems to have nad a variety of experiences out of Chicago, the Pulliam one being one which was fine and perhaps the Michigan one that wasn't quite as fine. but I think we would be shortsighted not to look at that experience. Now, another point that I think we should quickly recognize here is that we seem to be centering on Indiana as a good experience, and I don't think anybody is in disagreement with that, but let's quickly recognize the fact we are talking about a split State. So we are up against the question of realizing, or at least we shouldn't take Indiana too quickly and then conclude that that proves any- thing statewise, because we had 8. split State in that circumstance. 29 - 17 - I am not arguing for or against it, but I think we should recognize that is what we are doing. MR. BELL: Didn't we jump from a community level to a State level in this talk? MR. GRAVES: I mentioned Indiana as an illustration of what happened at the community level, which is what we were talking about. I was simply trying to say that in Indiana, or at least that part of Indiana which came in the Chicago district, there was but one organization at the community level. MR. BELL: I think all agreed there should be one organization down there. I wondered if you agreed with Herbert that it didn't make any difference what you called this organization. MR. GRAVES: Well, I would have a good deal to say about that, yes. I think it would be a great loss to give up the designation, "War Savings." H.M.JR: There you are going to have some trouble with me becáuse I think that is one thing that we are going to have to do - forget the designations, I think, War Savings and Victory Fund, and have United States Treasury Organiza- tion - community and State. I don't see how else we can do it. MR. GASTON: I don't see why we couldn't call it, for instance, the South Bend War Finance Committee, and the Cedar Rapids War Finance Committee, showing that they have taken over. MR. BELL: It starts out with United Ptates Treasury War Finance Committee. MR. GASTON: Showing they have taken over the whole field. H.M.JR: No, there I have learned enough on this thing. I think that if we keep these old tags, then we are not going to get anywhere. 30 - 18 - I think that this organization has got to be called United States Treasury War Finance Committee of Dutchess County. MR. PEABODY: Those are battle flags in some districts, Mr. Secretary; they literally are. These old tags that you refer to, there is a tremendous amount of feeling about the name itself, and I don't see how you are ever going to bring the two together unless you take an entirely new name. H.M.JR: Well, it is like the idea of the old fighting 69th in New York, or the 7th Regiment. I mean, as long as they have their National Guard names, you can't merge them into United States Army. They have just got to forget their old names and become members of the United States Army. That was the trouble at this Pass - this Iowa group wanted to hold on as a National Guard unit, and that was one of the troubles with them - the National Guard unit in Iowa, which was wiped out. 1 think it is a good example. "If you are going to become members of the United States Army, you can't stay the 69th or the 7th, or the Blues of Richmond" - and all of these things which are very nice in peacetimes, Harold. MR. GRAVES: I wouldn't consider that a major point, although I think there is some value in the name. H.M.JR: I think it is fairly important. If they are going to bury this thing, we want to forget this button - we want to forget the button the other fellow is wearing. I think we are going to have to have a new button. MR. ODEGARD: Mr. Secretary, wouldn't it be relevant to consider - I don't want to argue this point now, but wouldn't it be relevant to consider the value of the names in terms of the number of people involved. For example, you may have a small group of people. I suspect there are not over - being over-liberal - certainly not over a million - I think that is an exageration by twice - the people who are concerned about the War finance Committee. There are literally millions of people in the United States who identify themselves with the "ar Savings Committee. 31 - 19 - They are identified as & savings operation and I merely suggest that for consideration. H.M.JR: I don't know where they are. MR. ODEGARD: There are fifty million of them that have purchased savings bonds. H.M.JR: We have used that over and OV er again. If you don't mind my saying it, it is incorrect, Peter. There are not fifty million people. MR. ODEGARD: Pretty close to in, now. H.M.JR: We have said it for six months and it wasn't so. MR. GRAVES: I think that is SO. H.M.JR: Yes, but these people are holders of bonds. Let's say there are fifty million different people that hold bonds, which both Tickton and Lindow say is not so, but let's say there are. But what difference does it make to a holder of a United States Treasury bond whether he is being sold by a Molly Pitcher, if you please, or by a Victory Fund - what does he care? MR. ODEGARD: He may not, Mr. Secretary, I just-- H.M.JR: You see, Peter, if you don't mind, the very fact that you get kind of excited by this, and Harold gets excited by this thing, is convincing to me that the thing should be buried. I think - and I can't think of & better example than these famous names of National Guard organizations which in time of war become members of the United States Army, and as long as they carry their tags, they don't merge themselves. I mean, the very fact that you fellows get excited about the tag, to me that is an argument we should drop it. But I would like to ask Ted Gambie how he feels about it. Regraded Unclassified 32 - 20 - MR. GAMBLE: I tell you how I feel about it; I don't think it makes any difference. What I would like to see is War Bonds kept. I don't think United States War Finance Committee is a good name, but-- H.M.JR: You think we should hold to war Savings Organization? MR. GAMBLE: I wouldn't worry much about that. H.M.JR: Don't you think it is fairly important to drop both names? MR. GAMBLE: Yes, Treasury War Finance, Victory Fund, and War Savings. I would like to see it "War Bonds" because that is what the people call it. H.M.JR: Do you agree with me or not as to dropping all names? MR. GAMBLE: Yes, dropping all of them, but I would argue when we did it that we ought to come up with something that had War Bonds in it. H.M.JR: That is something else again, but as to the old name, if you want to argue about a new name-- MR. GAMBLE: Yes. H.M.JR: How about you, Miss Elliott? MISS ELLIOTT: It is very funny, because last night working on it and thinking about what I was going to suggest, I was going to suggest we change the name of Mar Savings Staff to either war Bond or War Loan Staff. I think it is important to get away from these identifications that have caused the friction. But I agree with Mr. Gamble that it should definitely be either the War Loan Committee or the war Bond Committee. I think that should be retained in it. H.M.JR: But would you hang onto the old name? 33 - 21 - MISSELLIOTT: Not necessarily. No, I would not. In fact, I was going to suggest we drop it. I think if we go to this principle you established here this morning of separating Government finance and the regular war financing, separate the two, then organize,I would say, straight down the line, one committee - I am jumping to the top instead of starting at the bottom - a very definite and simplified national organization with direct functional lines down to one State organization with one State director, operating right down to one committee. And make your organization as simple as possible with as little confusion. I don't see any necessity of building up an overlapping and complicated piece of machinery to do one thing - sell bonds. H.M.JR: I think we are making a little progress, now. MR. GASTON: I would drop "United States Treasury" in the State and local level because, really, they are not - I don't think you want to identify them as United States Treasury organizations. I think you want to identify them as a people's organization - & community organization. I think "War Bonds Committee" is very good because there is a sort of a double play in the word "Bonds." MR. GAMBLE: You get millions of dollars' worth of promotion every month for it. H.M.JR: I don't mean to be too categorical, Peter. MR. ODEGARD: That is all right. I was raising the question, Mr. Secretary. H.M.JR: But I am glad you raised the thing because the very thing that you are hanging onto - if you don't mind my saying it - is the important thing I think should be buried. MR. ODEGARD: As a matter of fact, I asked Karl Richards about it and Howard Mills about it, and both said that 80 far as the name was concerned, they wouldn't be very much concerned about the change in name. 34 - 22 - Now, I haven't talked with very many other State administrators, but I think that might be true. I would like to emphasize the importance of the savings angle to this because I think that is an important motivation. MR. PEABODY: I think it is easy to get into a little confusion here between the name of the organization that is going to do this job and the name of the product they are going to sell. I would go along with Peter a hundred percent. They still ought to be selling Savings Bonds, but that is something which is going to be general. That will get into your fifty or sixty million, or whatever it is, but the name we call the organization is going to be a considerably limited thing, and I think that that definitely should be changed. H.M.JR: I think that that is - what, the name of the organization? MR. PEABODY: Yes. H.M.JR: I think that is an intelligent comment. MR. ROBBINS: I would even go a little further than that and say I recognize the valuesthat Peter and Harold are talking about, and they are very real values. You can't have had an operation over & period of years and nothave built up that value. But that, to my mind, points up the importance of our problem; that there are certain sacrifices in values that have to be made to get greater values. That is the reason we are discussing this organization. This may be a sacrifice we will have to make to improve our situation. I am perfectly willing to take it on that basis. I think it should be changed, by all means. H.M.JR: Now, just let me take an inventory here for a minute. What we are talking about for the moment - and I don't want to get above the State, and I don't care, for my purposes, whether Indiana is divided in half - it doesn't make any difference-- 35 - 23 - MR. ROBBINS: It doesn't to me, I can assure you. H.M.JR: But I meant, it is the idea. We have got somebody - whether we take the Iowa organization or the Washington organization, I want to keep it for the moment on the State-county level. What we are talking about here is that we will have at the head of each State one man WIO should be selected by us, who will stand for what I stand for, and feel that he can talk and think the way I would talk if I were in his State. And then it is to be his responsibility to get people to do that kind of talking and thinking in each community. I mean, they talk the same way we talked on this trip, and not the way they did in San Francisco. There is the other angle. MR. PEABODY: That is right. H.M.JR: Then, as I see it, what we are talking about now is that in this, from the county up or the State down, there would be an organization built to sell Treasury securities three hundred and sixty-five days in the year. And I don't know whether they would have to have a special campaign committee or not, or whether they wouldn't be in such shape that they are going along at thirty miles an hour one month and the next month they step on the gas, and the same group goes up to sixty miles an hour. I don't know whether you have to have a special group-- MR. BELL: You would have to be in a position to expand very suddenly to meet that drive. They could do that. MR. ODEGARD: If you had, Mr. Secretary, a- setup such as was developing after the Kansas City meeting we had, where the State administrators went back and on a community basis established F and G Committees, or what some of them called Investment Committees - Howard Mills called his an investment committee out in Southern California - made up of people who were experienced in the sale of securities to large investors. Regraded Unclassified 36 - 24 - Now, that committee might not have a tremendous amount of work to do during the three hundred and sixty-five days of the year and could serve as a planning committee in addition to its other activities for these special drives. You would have a group then that would have time to devote attention to the need for expansion and the way in which it is to be done. MR. GASTON: We want to avoid divisions, Peter, and if you set up 8. - there is 8. danger there of accentuating a division, but making this particular group your investment- banker group, as the special campaign committee, you then accentuate the cleavage. I would rather they would be permanent working members of the committee. Then you have a special subcommittee that will represent all groups for a drive. You would have a labor union man, you would have a women's representative - the farmer - you wouldn't leave those drives in the hands of what you might recognize as the Victory Fund group. Otherwise, you are in danger of promoting division - a continuing division. MR. ODEGARD: I was merely speaking of what actually happened in Southern California. MISS ELLIOTT: ^ren't most of the States organized along, now, on that functional line? Just follow the same in organizing the State and local community. Follow the functional lines that are already being used in most of the States. You have your Agricultural Committee, your Labor Committee, your Women's Division - you have your-- MR. GRAVES: Payroll savings - it is very-- MISS ELLIOTT: It is a very simple functional organiza- tion, and if anything new comes into the picture that you need an additional committee, simply add it. You don't have to change your simple organization to achieve complete representation. Regraded Unclassified 37 - 25 - H.M.JR: What do you - how would you handle selling, say, corporations? MISS ELLIOTT: On the local level, organize a committee under the county chairman or city chairman to handle that. H.M.JR: Would that be your special campaign committee? MISS ELLIOTT: No, I wouldn't have a special campaign committee. I think it is much better to let that go along as a regular function - continuous activity, anyway - and then when you come into these special drives- why wait to solicit them, anyhow, until you have a special drive on? Let it be a part of your continuous activity and then when you come to the next big drive, just as Mr. Bell said, expand this functional organization to cover the whole program. Very easy to do. MR. GASTON: This group, in other words, your Cadillac salesmen - all part of the continuing organization. MR. BELL: Haven't we got to forget groups such as bankers investment groups and why haven't we got to get the best citizen in the community to help on this job, regardless of why or where he hangs his hat? It seems to me you have got just as good bankers and investment people as you have labor people and others, but get them all into this committee. I think we have got to forget the groups. MISS ELLIOTT: I think that was the principle that Mr. Gaston was establishing here, but then, you do have to have the functional groups. MR. ODEGARD: Dan, that is exactly what we have tried to do. MR. BELL: That is what I thought you tried to do, and that is what we ought to continue to do, and then expand it when the work increases during the drive periods. 38 - 26 - MR. GAMBLE: I agree with what you have said, but psychologically, I think it is a mistake not to have a group of people that are planning these two or three operations & year. Now, you have a going concern, and it is pretty hard to pick them if you have them all working. If you want to get people to really rise up and do the kind of job we are asking them to do three or four times a year, that should be their job at the time they step into the limelight, just 8.8 the pay-roll fellows stepping into the limelight when they have their drive. Human beings are all the same and they like to be spot-lighted a little when they are heading up an important operation. I think you could do it just as Herbert has said. Have this group and they could carry on some continuing activity; but it would be largely the responsibility of this special campaigns committee to coordinate all activities of the other functional groups. In other words, they would be-- H.M.JR: I don't see that. Then you are going to mess up your whole thing again. MR. BELL: I think it is up to the local chairman on that community level to be preparing for these periodic drives, and I think he has got to have people on his committee to work with him to prepare for that. These are all volunteers and they are not going to work continually. But for a period of three weeks, they can be preparing, or at least they can be preparing for this three-weeks drive, and that is under that local chairman. I don't see that he has to have a lot of committees. It confuses the whole situation to have a committee for each little segment of this financing. MR. ODEGARD: I don't think Ted's notion is in conflict with that. 39 - 27 - MR. GAMBLE: Not at all. I only say that there is a responsibility attached to these drives that is pretty important and you should have a group whose sole responsi- bility it is under your county chairman; just as the responsibility for pay-roll savings operations is in the hands of pay-roll savings chairmen, so would the special operations be in the hands of-- H.M.JR: That isn't what Miss Elliott has been saying. MR. GRAVES: I think it is. MR. GAMBLE: She thought they ought to be on a continuous working basis, and I think they ought to be on a continuous working basis, planning from one drive to another. MR. GRAVES: In these drives you have got, suddenly, to expand your organization by the recruitment and training of a very large additional number of people. Well, now, some group ought to have the responsibility for that, pretty nearly to the exclusion of everything else. MR. GAMBLE: That is right. MR. GRAVES: If you are going to have 8. successful drive to reach all the people, somebody has got to focus on that - has got to lay plans for that, and has got to take care of recruiting the volunteers to engage in that particular activity, and to train them and organize them. MR. BELL: That has first got to center in the chairman of that local organization. MR. GRAVES: That is right. The thing would be under the supervision of the chairman. MISS ELLIOTT: If you keep it tied right into the major committee, both State and local, and make them a working part, but not as a separate drive unit over here (indicating). Regraded Unclassified 40 - 28 - MR. GRAVES: Às & part of it as the women's organiza- tion is, or as the farm organization is, or as the pay-roll savings organization is? MISS ELLIOTT: The special activity assigned to them, but citing definitely-- MR. GRAVES: Greater separation there than you have with respect to women's activities. MR. GASTON: My point is the special campaign committee should be representative of all classes of solicitation. MR. GRAVES: That is right. MR. GASTON: Not pick out the Victory Fund group and make that a special committee. MR. GAMBLE: That is the way it has to be. MISS ELLIOTT: Mr. Gamble, do you mean the heads of these functional groups in the local committee would be automatically, or ex officio the people who would work with this head of this drive? MR. GAMBLE: That is right. The only difference-- MISS ELLIOTT: That would tie them in with the Secre- tary. MR. GAMBLE: But you should have one person who is solely responsible for these three or four operations and leans on all these other folks. MISS ELLIOTT: But not a separate division - that is what I object to. MR. GAMBLE: No, it wouldn't be a separate division. MR. ROBBINS: It seems to me there are probably three things that fall into a special classification. When we 41 - 29 - get down to the community level and we figure that the probabilities are we will divide our bank financing from our other solicitation, there may be certain duties evolve on whatever our organization may be at the community level to do that, and maybe, I don't know, but whatever they are, there should be provision at the local level to have properly qualified people to perform whatever service necessary in a separate financial drive that might be handled differently in the future. Then I certainly agree with what Ted says about the necessity - and Peter, I think, said this, too - of planning. I think the drive planning is a separate function. We are probably going to continue to have drives, and therefore we must have somebody, whether it is a person, a committee, or what, that really plans for drives. And that again must repeat itself at the community level. Then there may be a third factor here that is important and I am sure it has been mentioned, but perhaps not crystal- lized quite as clearly as it seems to me it warrants, and that is that there is going to be a continuous selling activity to certain types of business and organizations that will be just as continuous as pay-roll selling will be. And that function, like the women's activity, like the pay- roll savings activity must be provided for at the local level. So if we agree, as I think we all do, that this local level should be a single organization expanded and developed pretty much to reflect the local flavor of doing the complete job to embrace all three of these things, I think we can do it, and I don't think there is anything that will be hard or discordant in such an organization concept, or difficult of its achievement, provided we get the right people to head up the over-all local functions. H.M. JR: I have got to stop now. Would you think it would be at all helpful if they continued a little in your office on this or not? MR. BEL If they want to, I don't care, but I don't-- Regraded Unclassified 42 - 30 - MR. ROBBINS: Mr. Grant is probably in my office now. Are you going to see him today? H.M.JR: Yes, I have an appointment with him. He has asked to see me. He is coming in at three. MR. BELL: Would anybody like to continue it in my office? H.M.JR: I will give this same group here three-thirty. Regraded Unclassified 43 May 4, 1943 10:39 A. M. John McCormack: Hello. Operator: Go ahead. HMJr: Hello. McC: Yes, Henry. HMJr: Hello, John? McC: Yeah. HMJr: How do things look today? McC: Why - we're doing the best We can. I'm here with Sam and Jere Cooper now. HMJr: Uh huh. McC: We're - we're throwing everything into it we can there HMJr: I see. McC: And.... HMJr: Well, I talked with Sam. He seems to feel quite hopeful. McC: Well, I - - I wouldn't challenge his - his state of mind, but I'm one - I - all I say 18, we're throwing everything in we can. HMJr: Well, at least I hear there's brotherly love up there amongst the Democrats. McC: Why - ab - absolutely and uncompletely - absolutely and unconditionally. HMJr: Yeah. McC: (Laughs). HMJr: Well, that's fine. Now, is there anything I can do at this end, John? McC: Well, wait a minute. (talks aside). 44 - 2 - McC: No, we don't know of anything, Henry. That's one of these affairs up here, you know, that- that if anything can be done it's - we can level on them without bothering you. But, if there's anything we'll- we'll call you. HMJr: That's the idea. McC: All right, Henry. HMJr: Thank you. McC: Goodbye. 45 May 4, 1943 11:45 a.m. DEFERMENTS Present: Mr. Gaston Mr. Thompson H.M.JR: Now, where are we? MR. THOMPSON: There is the list made up on the submission of three names from the various offices. (List handed to the Secretary, copy attached.) H.M.JR: What is 3-A-4? MR. THOMPSON: Some of the boards put 1, 2, 3, and 4 following various categories of 3-A. H.M.JR: The thing that I want clear, which isn't quite clear in my mind, is the status now about this thing as between ourselves and the Manpower? What is the latest thing on that? What are the rules about deferments? MR. THOMPSON: The President's Executive order requires us to prepare key lists of positions and submit them to the War Manpower Commission for approval. After approval a deferment may be requested for any one of those key positions. H.M.JR: Does that go through McReynolds now? MR. THOMPSON: No, he isn't in it any more. It goes through Mr. McNutt's office. Mr. Barnett is chairman of the Review Committee, and they review all the deferment requests. MR. GASTON: You are not bound to ask deferment for anybody on that key list, but we have taken it as a list of positions which must be protected, which are essential positions. Regraded Unclassified 46 - 2 - H.M.JR: Is the first step to go through the McNutt committee? MR. THOMPSON: Yes, the key list must go through there; but pending the establishment of the key list deferment may be requested and reported to the committee. But after the list is prepared then we go ahead. H.M.JR: Would this be the list that would go? MR. THOMPSON: No, sir. The list of key positions is much longer than this. H.M.JR: We have never sent that? MR. THOMPSON: No. That is being prepared and is just about completed now. We went over it yesterday. MR. GASTON: We had one list under prior orders. This is the new list which we went over yesterday. We are including a great many positions where we probably would not require deferment, but as a protective measure we did it - for instance, if we got in a jam and couldn't replace a man. H.M.JR: Does that freeze the man here? MR. THOMPSON: No. H.M.JR: When will that list go over? MR. THOMPSON: It is about ready. We went over it yesterday. There are some revisions to be made. I guess we will get it out today or tomorrow. H.M.JR: Do I see that? MR. THOMPSON: If you would like to. I don't think it is necessary. H.M.JR: I would like to. 47 - 3 - MR. GASTON: It isn't a. request for deferment at all. H.M.JR: That goes to the Manpower? MR. GASTON: Yes. H.M.JR: I suppose that is for the whole country? MR. GASTON: Yes. H.M.JR: And this (indicating list) is just for Washington. What about this list here? MR. THOMPSON: This is just the list that you wanted of persons who might be considered for deferment who occupy important, key positions. MR. GASTON: I don't think there is anything to be done here except to keep this list as a memorandum, and then if they should be called up - any of these men - we could focus on the question of whether we want to ask their deferment. MR. THOMPSON: Unless the Secretary now wanted to make a decision so that these men could be told. H.M.JR: What about this thing - would you rather do it that way than try to get them in the Army? MR. THOMPSON: I think so because if they went in the Army as privates they couldn't come back unless you did the same way as with the White House agents. I don't think - - I talked to some of the men, and I don't think they would like to do that. H.M.JR: Take the one in the General Counsel's office - Thomas M. Davis. Is he fairly important? 48 - 4 - MR. THOMPSON: That is one case. He has been called for induction May 13. There is some doubt whether he will get by the physical examination. He is rather frail. H.M.JR: Is he an important fellow? MR. THOMPSON: He is a very important fellow, and Mack and O'Connell tell me it would be a serious loss if we didn't defer him. H.M.JR: Why not ask for deferment? MR. THOMPSON: I think we should because he is on the Lend-Lease work down there. H.M.JR: Let's say O.K. on him. Are you all right, Herbert? MR. GASTON: Yes. H.M.JR: Then we go to the next one. MR. THOMPSON: Mr. Flatley. Cliff told me he would like to make an urgent appeal to you to get a deferment for Flatley. He is the Chief of Contract and Purchase Branch, and he is doing all of the Lend-Lease purchasing. I am told by people working under him that he goes a pace, and if he went they wouldn't put him in combat service. H.M.JR: All right. What about Stephens? Regraded Unclassified 49 - 5 - MR. THOMPSON: It is rather unusual that they put him in 1-A because he is somewhat crippled. He is lame and certainly wouldn't be available for combat service. H.M.JR: Now, those are the only three which are in 1-A? MR. THOMPSON: That is right. H.M.JR: Why don't we ask for deferment on those three? MR. GASTON: I think that would be proper. MR. THOMPSON: That would be my recommendation. H.M.JR: They are Thomas M. Davis, John W. Flatley, and Thomas C. Stephens, and they are all-- MR. THOMPSON: It so happens they are all in Procurement. That will take care of the whole situation for the present. MR. GASTON: They are 35, 36, and 34, all married. H.M.JR: That gets around, doesn't it - doing this? MR. THOMPSON: Yes. H.M.JR: I don't have to do anything on the others? MR. THOMPSON: No, unless you wanted to go so far this time as to give a flat assurance they would be given deferments. I doubt if you want to do that. I mean if they should get in 1-A. H.M.JR: It is awful hard to do that, isn't it, Herbert? MR. GASTON: That is right. 50 - 6 - MR. THOMPSON: Because most of these men in 3-A or 3-B - it will be a long time before they will be reached. H.M.JR: Why don't you and Gaston get these people together who are concerned and tell them that I have done this, and that this is the way I am leaning, 80 that they know. How would that be? MR. THOMPSON: I think that would be fine. H.M.JR: Why don't you send for these men and tell them I have taken these three people and asked for defer- ments, and until further notice that is the policy I will follow. There is no use bothering with people in 3-A. MR. GASTON: There is one case here, a man in 2-A, this Wahrhaftig. His board is out in California. He has been put in 2-A because of his work in the Treasury. They will have to cancel that occupational deferment now be- cause of the Lodge bill. He has dependents. He is single, thirty-four. Roy Blough thinks it is very important - he spoke to me about it yesterday - that they keep him here until something happens with respect to the sales tax. He is the sales tax expert. H.M.JR: That is Office of Tax Counsel? MR. GASTON: Yes. It is in Surrey's office. H.M.JR: All right, Felis Wahrhaftig O.K. MR. THOMPSON: There is this difference in his case. If he is deferred, when the deferment time is up he will be through, he will be out of the Department. There wouldn't be any question of renewing the deferment request. H.M.JR: O.K. Any other, Herbert? Regraded Unclassified 51 - 7 - MR. GASTON: No, there is no other. H.M.JR: I think you ought to get these people together and tell them what we have done. Will you do that? MR. THOMPSON: Yes. MR. GASTON: Yes. H.M.JR: Everything else all right? MR. THOMPSON: That is fine. 52 FOREIGN FUNDS CONTROL Name Title Age Marital Present Status Draft Status Pehle, John W. Assistant to the Secy. 34 Married 3-A & Director of Foreign 1 Child Funds Control Schmidt, Orvis A. Assistant Director of 31 Married 3-B Foreign Funds Control 1 Child Stewart, Ward Assistant Director of 30 Married 3-B Foreign Funds Control 1 Child GENERAL COUNSEL Luxford, Ansel F. Assistant General Counsel 31 Married 3-A 1 Child Aarons, Lehman Head Attorney 34 Married 3-A 1 Child DuBois, Josiah E. Jr. Head Attorney 30 Married 3-A 1 Child Davis, Thomas M. Assistant Chief Counsel 35 Married ,1-A-O.K. of Procurement Division. MINT Howard, F. Leland Assistant Director 35 Married 3-B 3 Children Russell, Timothy E., Administrative Officer 32 Married 3-A Jr. 1 Child Tidball, Lewis C. Asst. Supt. of Coining 32 Married 3-A Dept.,Philadelphia 2 children MONETARY RESEARCH Taylor, William H. Assistant Director 37 Married 3-A 1 Child Friedman, Irving S. Senior Economic Analyst 28 Married 3-B 1 Child Gunter, John W. Senior Economic Analyst 29 Married 3-A 2 children * Have been with the Treasury Department less than 3 years Regraded Unclassified 53 PROCUREMENT DIVISION Name Title Age Marital Present Status Draft Status Flatley, John W. Chief of Contract and 36 Married 1-A-O.K. Purchase Branch Stephens, Thomas C. Regional Procurement 34 Married 1-A - Officer - San Francisco 1 Child Widmann, Robert J. Special Asst. to the 32 Married 3-A Director, Acting in charge 1 Child of Inspection for Lend-Lease Inspection and Expediting PUBLIC DEBT Heffelfinger, Ross A. Deputy Commissioner 35 Married 3-B 3 children Ziegenfus, H. F. Special Assistant to the 35 Married 3-A Commissioner 2 children RESEARCH AND STATISTICS Lindow, Wesley Principal Economic Analyst 32 Married 2-A Tickton, Sidney G. Principal Economic Analyst 31 Married 3-A-4 1 Child Banyas, Lawrence Economic Analyst 33 Married 3-B (Head of Graphic Section) 1 Child OFFICE OF TAX LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL Surrey, Stanley Tax Legislative Counsel 33 Married 3-A * Wahrhaftig, Felix Consulting Expert 34 Single 2-д-ок, * Brodsky, Benjamin M. Principal Attorney 32 Married 3-A TAX RESEARCH Farioletti, Marius Principal Economic Analyst 35 Married 3-A 1 Child * Have been with the Treasury Department less than 3 years Regraded Unclassified 54 OFFICE OF THE TREASURER Name Title Age Marital Present Status Draft Status Cole, Alwyn Examiner of Questioned 34 Married 3-A-4 Documents 1 child Annis, Howard M. Chief, Chicago Branch of 35 Married 3-A the Securities Division 2 children OFFICE OF THE UNDER SECRETARY Frese, Walter F. Special Asst. to the 37 Married 3-A Fiscal Asst. Secy. 2 children Moore, Martin L. Special Asst. to the 32 Married 3-A Fiscal Asst. Secy. 3 children April 30, 1943. 5/4/43 55 55 LIST OF KEY POSITIONS SUBMITTED BY THE TREASURY DEPARTMENT IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE PROVISIONS OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 9309 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade OFFICE OF THE SECRETARY Technical Assistant to the Secretary 1 CAF-15 Special Assistant to the Fiscal Assistant Secretary 2 CAF-13 BUREAU OF ACCOUNTS Assistant Commissioner of Accounts 1 CAF-14 Chief Accountant 1 CAF-14 Assistant Chief Accountant 1 CAF-13 Division of Disbursement Senior Field Supervisor 1 CAF-11 Assistant Disbursing Officer in Charge of Regional Offices 38 CAF-10 - CAF-12 COMPTROLLER OF THE CURRENCY Assistant Chief National Bank Examiner 8 $7,500 - $9,500 District Chief National Bank Examiner 12 $9,000 - $15,000 - 2 - 56 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF CUSTOMS Assistant to the Assistant Commissioner 1 CAF-12 Liaison Officer 4 CAF-12 and 13 Chief of Section, Tariff and Marine 5 P-6 Administration Assistant Chief of Section, Tariff and 5 P-5 Marine Administration Assistant Deputy Commissioner (Assistant 1 P-5 Chief of Section), Tariff and Marine Administration Technical Assistant, Tariff and Marine 4 P-4 Administration Deputy Commissioner, Fiscal Administration 1 CAF-13 Chief of Division, Laboratories 1 P-7 Assistant Collector 47 CAF-9-15,inc. Chemist 34 P-3,4 and 5 Supervising Customs Agent 13 CAF-9-14,inc. Customs Agent in Charge 15 CAF-9-14,inc. Admeasurer 21 CAF-7,8 and 9 Automatic Scale Expert 7 CPC-10 Regraded Unclassified - 3 - 57 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF ENGRAVING AND PRINTING Special Assistant to Chief Accountant 2 CAF-9 Engraver 21 $8.06-$25.00 p.o. Superintendent of Division 16 CAF-5 - CAF-13 Assistant Superintendent of Division 16 CAF-5 - CAF-11 Plate Printer 609 Piece Rates - ($14.42 p.d.) Physicist - Chemist 2 P-4 - P-5 Engineering Draftsman 3 SP-7 - P-3 FOREIGN FUNDS CONTROL Assistant to the Secretary 1 CAF-15 (Director, Foreign Funds Control) Assistant Director (Enforcement) 1 CAF-14 Assistant Director (Licensing) 1 CAF-14 Assistant Director (Administrative 1 CAF-14 Services) Assistant Director (Field Operations) 1 CAF-13 Special Assistant to the Assistant 1 CAF-13 Director Chief Accountant 1 CAF-13 Head Commercial Specialist 1 CAF-12 - 4 - 58 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade GENERAL COUNSEL Assistant General Counsel and Chief Counsel 1 P-8 of Foreign Funds Control Assistant Chief Counsel, Foreign Funds Control 1 P-7 Assistant Chief Counsel, Foreign Funds Control 1 P=7 Chief Counsel, Bureau of Customs 1 P-7 Assistant Chief Counsel, Procurement Division 1 P-6 Assistant Chief Counsel, Internal Revenue 1 P-8 Division Head, Internal Revenue 1 P-7 Assistant Division Head, Internal Revenue 1 P-7 Special Assistant, Internal Revenue 2 P-6 Chief of Section, Internal Revenue 2 P-6 Special Assistant to the Chief Counsel, 2 P-6 Internal Revenue Principal Attorney, Internal Revenue 6 P-6 9 P-6 Principal Attorney, Internal Revenue Regraded Unclassified - 5 - 59 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF INTERNAL REVENUE Commissioner and Miscellaneous Unit Assistant to the Commissioner 1 CAF-15 Executive Assistant to the Commissioner 1 CAF-14 Special Assistant to the Commissioner 1 CAF-11 Income Tax Unit Deputy Commissioner 1 CAF-15 Associate Technical Advisor 1 CAF-13 Reviewer 4 CAF-12 Records Division Head 1 CAF-12 Clearing Division Junior Technical Assistant 1 P&S-3 Chief, Production Statistics Subsection 1 CAF-8 Practice & Procedure Division Chief of Section 3 CAF-13 Reviewer-Coordinator 10 CAF-13 Reviewer 16 CAF-12 Group Chief 2 CAF-12 Field Procedure Division Administrative Assistant 2 CAF-11 - 6 - 60 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF INTERNAL REVENUE Income Tax Unit (Continued) Audit Review Division Head 5 CAF-13 Assistant Head 5 CAF-12 Supervising Reviewer (Corporation) 8 CAF-12 Reviewer 29 CAF-12 Engineering and Valuation Division Chief 3 P&S-6 Valuation Engineer 24 P&S-5 Reviewer-Conferee 10 CAF-12 Field Internal Revenue Agent in Charge 38 CAF-13 and 14 Assistant Internal Revenue Agent in Charge 43 CAF-12 and 13 Chief Conferee 66 CAF-12 and 13 Chief Reviewer 32 CAF-12 and 13 Junior and Senior Conferee 84 CAF-11 and 12 Junior and Senior Reviewer 76 CAF-11 and 12 Group Chief 62 CAF-11 and 12 Chief, Engineering Section 4 P&S-6 Engineer Revenue Agent 63 P&S 3, 4 and 5 Internal Revenue Agent 282 CAF-12 Internal Revenue Agent 546 CAF-11 Internal Revenue Agent 998 CAF-9 Internal Revenue Agent 240 P-3, 4 and 5 Regraded Unclassified - 7 - 61 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF INTERNAL REVENUE Miscellaneous Tax Unit Technical Advisor to Deputy Commissioner 2 CAF-13 Member, Special Research Committee 3 P&S-6 Head, Sales Tax Division 1 CAF-13 Internal Revenue Agent 3 CAF-11 Internal Revenue Agent (or General Deputy 27 CAF-9 Collector) Technical Staff Senior Technical Advisor 5 CAF-14 Technical Advisor 4 CAF-13 Assistant Technical Advisor 8 CAF-12 Head, Major and Minor Divisions 10 CAF-14 and 15 Assistant Head, Major and Minor Divisions 11 CAF-13 and 14 Technical Advisor in Charge 19 CAF-13 Technical Advisor 66 CAF-13 Assistant Technical Advisor 88 CAF-12 Head Accountant and Auditor 18 CAF-12 Assistant Chief Accountant and Auditor 13 CAF-11 Senior Accountant and Auditor 18 CAR-10 Intelligence Unit Special Agent in Charge 8 CAF-13 Assistant Special Agent in Charge 10 CAF-12 Special Agent 33 CAF-12 Special Agent 84 CAF-11 Special Agent 93 CAF-9 Regraded Unclassified - 8 - 62 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF INTERNAL REVENUE Accounts and Collections Unit Head, Rules and Regulations Division 1 CAF-12 Head, Control Division 1 CAF-10 Technical Assistant 1 CAF-12 Supervisor of Accounts and Collections 11 CAF-13 in Charge Supervisor of Accounts and Collections 12 CAF-12 Collector of Internal Revenue 64 CAF-13 and 14 Assistant to Collector of Internal Revenue 64 CAF-12 and 13 Chief Office Deputy 27 CAF-12 Chief Field Deputy 64 CAF-11 and 12 Chief, Income Tax Division 64 CAF-10 and 11 Chief, Employment Tax Division 64 CAF-9 and 10 Chief, Miscellaneous Tax Division 64 CAF-9 and 10 Cashier 64 CAF-10 and 11 Comptroller 64 CAF-9 and 10 Alcohol Tax Unit Assistant Deputy Commissioner 1 CAF-13 (Basic Permit Trade Practice) Assistant Deputy Commissioner (Enforcement) 1 CAF-14 Chemist 32 P-2, P-3 and P-4 District Supervisor 15 CAF-13 and 14 Assistant Supervisor (Permissive) 11 CAF-12 and 13 Assistant Supervisor (Enforcement) 14 CAF-11, 12 and 13 Chief Inspector 13 CAF-9, 10 and 11 Salary Stabilization Unit Chief Liaison Officer 1 CAF-12 Regraded Unclassified - 9 - 63 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade MINT Assistant Director of the Mint 1 CAF-14 Junior Administrative Officer 1 CAF-10 Assistant Superintendent of Melting 1 P-3 and Refining Assayer 2 P-5 Superintendent of Coining 1 CAF-12 Bookkeeper 1 CAF-8 Foreman, Electrolytic Refinery 1 $10.40 per diem Die, Gage and Toolmaker 4 $9.20-$10.16 per diem Die Setter 27 $7.44-$8.96 per diem Machinist 36 $7.76-$9.68 per diem Principal Assayer's Assistant 17 SP-7 Electrician 23 $8.56-$9.52 per diem Junior Engraver 1 SP-7 Foreman of Ingot Melting Room 1 $10.24-$11.20 per diem Assistant Superintendent 1 CAF-8 of Machinery Foreman of Make-up Room 1 $10.24 per diem Second Assistant Superintendent of the 1 CAF-8 Coining Department Foreman of the Bar Department 1 $10.88 per diem Foreman of Refinery Cell Room 1 $11.36 per diem Foreman of Make-up Room 1 $10.88 per diem Regraded Unclassified - 10 - 64 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade MINT (Continued) Scale Bldr. & Adjuster 1 $8.08 per diem Assistant Assayer 1 P-3 Foreman of Automatic Scales 1 $9.60 per diem Chief Clerk 1 CAF-12 Sheet Metal Worker 1 $8.56 per diem Skilled Workman 1 $7.60 per diem MONETARY RESEARCH Assistant Director 2 P-7 Senior Economist 3 P-5 Regraded Unclassifie - 11 - 65 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade PROCUREMENT DIVISION Director of Procurement 1 CAF-15 Deputy Director of Procurement 1 CAF-15 Chief, Contract and Purchase Branch 1 CAF-13 Purchasing Officer 7 CAF-11 Purchasing Officer 2 P-4 Consultant 1 CAF-15 Consultant 4 CAF-14 Industrial Commodity Specialist 6 CAF-13 Associate Industrial Commodity Specialist 7 CAF-12 Chief, Lend-Lease Inspection and Expediting Division 1 P=6 Assistant Chief, Lend-Lease Inspection and Expediting Division 1 P-5 Inspector-in-Charge 10 CAF-11 and 12 Regional Procurement Officers (Field) 11 CAF-13 and 14 Regional Property Officers (Field) 11 CAF-12 and 13 Assistant Chief, Finance Division 1 CAF-11 Senior Automobile Mechanic 8 CPC-7 Typewriter Repairman 8 CPC-6 Regraded Unclassifie - 12 - 66 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade BUREAU OF THE PUBLIC DEBT Deputy Commissioner of the Public Debt 1 CAF-12 Management Officer 1 CAF-12 Special Assistant to the Commissioner 1 CAF-11 Assistant Chief, Division of Loans and Currency 1 CAF-12 Chief Accountant and Auditor 1 CAF-11 Deputy Commissioner in Charge (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-14 Administrative Officer (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-12 Assistant Personnel Officer (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-10 Assistant to the Register of the Treasury (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-12 Manager, Claims and Ruling Section, Division of Loans and Currency (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-12 Head, E Bond Unit, Machine Accounts and Statistical Section, Division of Loans and Currency (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-9 Assistant Head, E Bond Unit, Machine Accounts and Statistical Section, Division of Loans and Currency (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-7 Head, F and G Bond and Statistical Unit, Machine Accounts and Statistical Section, Division of Loans and Currency (Chicago Office) 1 CAF-9 Regraded Unclassified - 13 - 67 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade DIVISION OF RESEARCH AND STATISTICS Assistant Director (Government Actuary) 1 P-7 Principal Economic Analyst 2 P-6 .Senior Economist 1 P-5 Senior Economic Analyst 1 P-5 Economic Analyst (Head of Graphic Section) 1 P-4 SECRET SERVICE Executive Aide to the Chief 1 CAF-12 Superintendent, Uniformed Force 1 CAF-10 Supervising Agent 4 CAF-12 and 13 Agent-in-Charge 9 CAF-8 to 12, inc. Agent (Presidential Protective Assignments) 21 CAF-8 to 11, ino. Agent, Polygraph Operator 2 CAF-9 and 10 Agent, Special Investigator 38 CAF-7 to 11, ino. Agent, Analyst 1 CAF-6 Regraded Unclassified - 14 68 Number of Title of Position Positions Grade OFFICE OF TAX LEGISLATIVE COUNSEL Tax Legislative Counsel 1 P-8 Consulting Expert 1 P-8 Principal Attorney 1 P-6 TAX RESEARCH Director of Tax Research 1 P-8 Assistant Director 1 P-7 Assistant Director 1 P-7 Principal Economic Analyst 5 P=6 Senior Economic Analyst 3 P-5 OFFICE OF THE TREASURER Examiner of Questioned Documents 1 CAF-11 Chief, Chicago Branch of Securities Division 1 CAF-10 WAR SAVINGS STAFF State Administrator 19 CAF-12 to 15 Senior Deputy Administrator 34 CAF-11 to 14 69 May 4, 1943 2:19 P. M. HMJr: Hello. Harry White: Yes, sir. HMJr: Harry, I was just reading your memorandum of May 3rd as to the status of these various countries that you've heard from in regard to stabilization. W: Yes. HMJr: And I notice that no letter went to Russia. W: Un - the arrangement had been HMJr: Yeah, I know. I read it. W: that .... HMJr: Well, I think we should send a letter to Russia. And what I would do 1s - I - - you prepare a letter and we'll send one just where we have every other, and we'll Just tell Berle we've done it, that's all. W: Uh - well, wouldn't it be a little peculiar at this stage of the game to do that? We d just - I'd have to - I suppose you'd have to do it with China and U. K. too. I think We ought to do something, be- cause I don't think that situation has been proper- ly handled. HMJr: Well, you make a better suggestion. W: All right. I'll think about it and talk - there are a couple of other things that - we'd like to see you today or tomorrow. HMJr: Yeah. Well, you make a better suggestion, but I - I - don't see how you can leave that lie around like that. W: Well, it isn't satisfactory. HMJr: No. W: All right, sir. I'll - I'll see if we can get something better. Regraded Unclassifi The 5/4/43 4:30 message from Paul The House just voted down the Carlson Rume Bill by 206-202 now going to vote with on re commiting out the Robertson Forand instructions to bring Bill Paul will keep you posted In gallery Cant be reached From: Mr. Fitsgerald 71 TREASURY DEPARTMENT INTER OFFICE COMMUNICATION DATE May 4, 1943. TO Secretary Morgenthau FROM Harold Graves g I find that Mr. Pulliam is en route from Indianapolis, Ind., to Chattanooga, Tenn., and that I will not be able to reach him before late this evening. Since it seems unlikely that he would be able to reach here tomorrow, would you like me to ask him to come in on Thursday? Yes yes. pays Hmg TREASURY 80 V Wd to MAY EVEL Regraded Unclassifie 72 May 4, 1943 Dear Allan: I want to thank you for your very nice telegram of May 3rd. May I take this opportunity not only to thank you personally but all of your associates for the amazingly good job which you did during the Second War Loan Drive. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Mr. Allan Sproul, Chairman, War Finance Committee, Federal Reserve Bank of New York, New York, N. Y. File in Diary Regraded Unclassifie 470 73 W66WASH B283 NY 3-2P SECRETARY MORGENTHAU 1943 MAY 3 PM 2 13 IN BEHALF OF THE WAR FINANCE COMMITTEE OF THE 2ND FEDERAL RESERVE DISTRICT AND THE THOUSANDS OF WORKERS OF THE WAR SAVINGS STAFF AND VICTORY FUND COMMITTEE I SEND YOU THE CONGRATULATIONS WHICH ARE YOUR DUE ON THE TREMENDOUS PUBLIC RESPONSE TO THE SECOND WAR LOAN. ITS SUCCESS OVERSHADOWING THAT OF THE FIRST WAR LOAN IN DECEMBER AUGURS WELL FOR FUTURE DRIVES WHICH WE ARE PLEDGED TO CARRY THROUGH UNTIL THIS WAR IS WON ALLAN SPROUL CHAIRMAN, WAR FINANCE COMMITTEE. Regraded Unclassified 74 May 4, 1943 My dear Cowles: The telegram you sent me to Cedar Rapids was very much appreciated by me. I want to take this opportunity to thank you for the splendid assistance that you gave us during our Second War Loan. I would like you to feel that you had a real part in the success that we have attained. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Mr. Gardner Cowles, Jr., Director, Domestic Operations Branch, Office of War Information, Washington, D. C. (Telegram not brought base from Cedar Rapids) Copies in Diary 75 May 4, 1943 Dear Mr. Davis: First, may I thank you for your very nice letter of April 26th; second, I would like to take this opportunity to thank you and the Office of War Informa- tion for the splendid assistance you have given us in connection with the Second War Loan. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Mergenthau, Jr. Mr. Elmer Davis, Director, Office of War Information, Washington, D. C. File in Diary Regraded Unclassifie 76% OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION WASHINGTON OFFICE OF THE DIRECTOR April 26, 1943 The Honorable The Secretary of the Treasury Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: May I offer you the compliments of a professional on the way you handled the "We the People" program last night? It was a most admirable job. Incidentally, it is obvious that the script came to the attention of the Army only because there were Army officers on the program. Cordially, ElemeDains Elmer Davis Director FORVICTORY BUY UNITED STATES WAR BONDS AND STAMPS Regraded Unclassifie 77 May 4, 1943 My dear Mr. Rogers: Thanks for your letter of April 28th. I would like to take this opportunity to thank you for the excellent work you have done in assisting the Treasury with the Second War Loan. Since you have been given the job of liaison between the Office of War In- formation and the Treasury, our relations have been only of the best. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Mr. James G. Rogers, Jr., Deputy Director, Domestic Branch, Office of War Information, Washington, D. C. File in Diary Regraded Unclassifie 78 OFFICE OF WAR INFORMATION WASHINGTON April 28, 1943 The Honorable The Secretary of the Treasury Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: I thought you might be interested to know that I have heard nothing but extremely favorable comment here on your "We The People" broadcast last Sunday night. Mike Cowles came in to tell me Monday he thought it was excellent. I, also, felt it was interesting, sincere and convincing. It seemed to me that it did & lot for the sale of War Bonds and also for better understanding of what this war is all about. Sincerely yours, James gRoga I James G. Rogere, Jr. Deputy Director Domestic Branch BUR FORVICTORY BUY UNITED STATES WAR BONDS AND STAMPS 79 May 4, 1943 My dear Mr. Peyton: Thank you very much for your letter of May 1. I want to take this opportunity to thank you and your associates for the excellent job that you did during the Second War Loan. Yours sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Mr. J. N. Peyton, President Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis, Minneapolis, Minnesota. File in Diary 80 FEDERAL RESERVE BANK OF MINNEAPOLIS OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT May 1, 1943 Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: The success of the Second War Loan Drive in the Ninth Federal Reserve District mist be predicated on your splendid support. In commemoration of your contribution, I am forwarding to you under separate cover a War Service Certificate. Should there be drives of a similar character in future, when the Treasury gives us equal cooperation, we will forward additional ribbons in commemoration of those events, which may be placed beside the red ribbon marked "Second War Loan, April 1943", now appearing upon the certificate. Seriously, Mr. Secretary, the drive in the Ninth Federal Reserve District has been a signal success. Regards, PRESIDENT JNP:B FORVICTORY BUY UNITED STATES WAS SAVINGS BONDS AND STAMPS Regraded Unclassified 81 May 4, 1943 Dear Mr. Fulton: The Second War Loan drive, which has just come to an end, has exceeded a goal far beyond that which the Treasury Department's original estimates had cet for it. First credit, of course, must go to the innumerable patriotic citizens and institutions whose subscriptions in Government securities achieved this excellent con- clusion of the campaign. However, I an well aware of the essential part played by advertising media in general, and I want particularly to express appreciation for the important rule taken by the great outdoor advertising industry which you ao ably represent. For this, my sincere thanks. Sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthan. Jr. Secretary of the Treasury Mr. Kerwin N. Fulton, Director of for Activition, Outdoor Advertising Association of America, 60 East 42nd Street, New York, IN York. SPeabody:amo Copiesin Diary Initialed copy to Peabody Regraded Unclassifie 82 May 4, 1943 Dear Mr. Tripp: Thanks for your letter of April 27, 1943. At the official end of the drive, as you know, the figures were even more gratifying and it now seems certain that we will have a total of about $18,000,000,000. I have just returned from & trip across the country. Everywhere I went my original impression of the complete cooperation of newspapers has been confirmed. I have had pre- liminary returns of the count of sponsored advertisements in this campaign and the total exceeds our expectations by a wide margin. I an fully aware of the part played by newspapers in getting this sponsorship. Editorial occperation in the form of news coverage and features has also been tremendous. I will await with interest the report you are to submit but even before that is rendered, I want to thank you, and through you, the newspaper industry, for the mest outstand- ing support over tendered to any promotional effort. Sincerely yours, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury. Mr. Frank B. Tripp, Chairman, Allied Newspaper Council, Walderf Actoria Motel, New York, New York. File in Diary SPeabody:amo Initialed copy to Peabody 83 May 1, 1943 opies of this went to the following today: Mr. Bell Mr. Robbins Mr. Graves Mr. Gamble Mr. Buffington Mr. Peabody Mr. Gardner Cowles 84 The April 27, 1943 FRANK E. TRIPF DENERAL MANAGER Send Reply to Elmira, N.Y. Hon. Henry Morgentheau, Secretary of the Treasury, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Secretary: The Second War Loan now being almost in the bag and the work of the Allied Newspaper Council with which I was entrusted having reached & point from which it can be reasonably observed, I take pleasure in render- ing a preliminary report to you, the man responsible for its formation. It is not yet time for figures, but I can tell you that you started something which unquestionably will prove to be the most stupendous and effective newspaper publicity and advertising effort in the his- tory of the press. Cooperation has been almost one hundred per cent. It surpassed my fondest expectations and it has been a willing and en- thusiastic cooperation which has extended from the press wire services at the top to the smallest country weekly at the bottom. Your own attitude and cooperation throughout this effort have been conspicuously responsible for much of the fine result and I want to thank you wholeheartedly for the wholesome manner in which you have responded at every point when B. word from you could help Don Bridge and me so much. You have come across with an old fashioned frank- ness and haven't pulled your punches. Newspaper men like this, They like its ring of sincerity and they respond to it. A great big measure of the success of the Allied Newspaper Council is attributable to your attitude and I thank you. With kindest regards Trank F. E. Tripp Yours sincerely Trink P. S. At the conclusion we are going to have some astounding figures for you to review. Hertford Times Rochester Times-Union Rochester Democrat & Chronicle Utics Observer-Dispatch Utica Press Albans Knickerhocker-Newe Elmira Star-Gazette & Advertiser Elmira Telegram Olean Times-Herald Plainfield Courler-News Ithaca Journal The Saratogism Danville Commercial-News Ogdensburg Inurnal Newburgh-Beacon News Malone Telegram Massena Observer Regraded Unclassified 85 for Secty april 22 '43 Statement of the functions of the Allied Newspaper Council was made today by Frank Tripp, Chairman, following a meeting of the Council Committee held this week. Mr. Tripp saids "The Allied Newspaper Council grew out of a meeting of editors and publishers called together by Secretary of the Treasury Morgenthau. Its immediate function was conceived to be the Second War Loan. It expected from the start to remain in ex- istence so long as it could be of service to the Treasury De- partment, whose task in financing the war is continuous. "The over all function of the Council is to help interpret the publicity and advertising needs of government to newspapers, to simplify, if possible, the contacts between government and the far flung press of the country and to maintain those con- taots according to newspaper practice. The Council does not originate programs, promotions, advertising or policy. The Council has not been directly requested, as yet, to give any service to other than the Treasury Department." Regraded Unclassified 86 May 4, 1943 Dear Mr. Drake: I have not had an opportunity before now to acknowledge personally your letter of April 26, 1943, and to express my sincere appreciation of the action taken by your company in turning over to us "WE THE PHOPLE" on Sunday, April 25. Appearing on this program was an interesting and gratifying experience to no, and I feel that the broadcast made an important contribution to the success of the Second Mar Loan drive. I hope your organisation feels that it was beneficial to the Gulf Companies. I would like to tell you also of the splendid cooperation of Mr. Huber and of the staff which produced the show. I think they did an outstanding piece of work and throughout the whole operation they were most helpful and considerate. Sincerely yours, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury Mr. J. 7. Drake, President, Gulf 011 Cerporation, Gulf Building, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. File in Diary Initialed copy to Peabody SPeabody:amo Regraded Unclassified 87 GULF OIL CORPORATION OFFICE OF THE PRESIDENT GULF BUILDING PITTSBURGH, PA. April 26, 1943 My dear Mr. Morgenthau: I wish to tell you what a great pleasure it was for me to listen to you last evening on our program "WE THE PEOPLE". If all who heard it were as much thrilled as were the people with whom I have contacted since the broadcast, I am sure that the War Bond Campaign will be greatly benefited. The success of this broadcast was, of course, due in large part to the fact that you actéd as Master of Ceremonies, and I wish you to know what a pleasure it is to me as President of the Gulf Companies to feel that we could be of assistance in such a worthy cause. As you doubtless know, we are making it a policy to have each broadcast given almost completely to furthering the war effort in some way and, in that connection, I wish you to feel that you, as Secretary of the Treasury, can count upon "WE THE PEOPLE" program for support in future War Bond Campaigns. Sincerely yours, DRAKE Honorable Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury Washington D. C. Regraded Unclassified 88 May 4, 1943 Dear Fred: I have read your letter of May 3rd, and I assure you that I have not changed my mind since our conversation on the plane. You did a great job on the Carnegie Hall speech, and in suggesting and help- ing me carry through the Cedar Rapids program, and the whole Western trip. I should like very much to have your full-time services for an indefinite period, if that can be arranged. The sug- gestion made by Mr. Rubicam seems to me a very generous one, and it is more than satisfactory to me. Will you please ex- press my gratitude to him? Sincerely yours, (Signed) Henry Morgenthau, Jr. File in Diary Mr. Fred Smith, AIR MAIL Young & Rubicam, Inc., SPECIAL DEI IVERY 285 Madison Avenue, New York, New York. by stungis 5:06 to B.F. Sta. 89 Free Smith young Y Rutican new yut Dear Fred: I have read your letter of may n and I assue you That I have net Changed my mind since cree conservation on the plaine you did a seat jif m the Camegie Hall speech and in supporting and helping me cam, Through the Cedar Rahids hurgram and the While western this I shmeld like very much & have you pull time services for an indefinite beingd il that can he ananged. The Reggestions in Mr. Rubican seems to me a more Than satisfacting to the your will you expenses my gratitude to him very genernes please me and 2 who Can m conseder t attled? 2 The as 2 am lorking frund W pooing you early Sincerely, tomm. Regraded Unclassified YOUNG b RUBICAM, INC. Advertising NEW YORK CHICAGO DETROIT SAN PRANCISCO HOLLYWOOD MONTREAL TORONTO NEW YORK 205 Madison Avenue May 3rd, 1943. Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr., Secretary of the Treasury, Treasury Department, Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Boss: I have just had a discussion with Mr. Rubicam. I have told him that in my estimation and apparently in yours I can be of great service to the war effort by giving you all my time. I made it clear to him that I felt that I should do it regardless of what happened; that if it meant my losing out at Young & Rubicam, and if it meant my getting into financial difficulties through moving my family to Washington, which I would insist upon doing, that was too bad. We would simply have to charge it up to the war. It certainly seems E. slim sacrifice in comparison to the handsome twenty year old youngster we met in San Francisco who has only one arm from here out, having left the other one in Guadalcanal. After being disturbed for a few moments, Mr. Rubicam asked what you would pay me. I replied "Up to $9,000," which is what I gathered from your conversation. He then seid that he would make up the difference between the $9,000 and the $12,500 which he is paying me now, and give me 8 leave of absence for 8 period of time -- say six months. This, of course, is very generous and if he doesn't change his mind, will relieve my poor, tired, pulpy, flabby, disgusting mind. It was about the only thing that really had me worried. He inferred, however, that he would like to be sure that it is a necessary and desirable thing for me to do. Therefore if you believe that it is & desirable thing, end are willing to believe at leest for the time being that it is a reasonably necessary thing, perhaps you would be good enough to have Herbert prepare E letter for you asking me to come to Washington and give you a hand if it can possibly be arranged. I know this is e lot to ask, but if you will do it it will grease the ways considerably. Regraded Unclassifie 91 Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr. May 3rd, 1943. - 2 - That is, of course, 1f the whole set-up would be satisfactory to you. Incidentally, & couple of very fine things have happened. First, a case of wine was waiting for me when I returned home, and my beautiful wife and I are very appreciative, not only of the wine but of your thoughtfulness, which is considerable. And second, I em hearing a great deal of comment about your broadcast from Cedar Rapids, and it is all good. Personally, I think we are ON OUR WAY. Next time, with what we have learned from this in the way of nation-wide organization to carry the torch, and such things as that, I believe we can make & tremendous dent. Sincerely, Fred Smith. fs:m Regraded Unclassified 92 May 4, 1943. Dear Dr. Days I just want to acknowledge your letter of April 30, and thank you very much for your attitude in regard to Dr. Myers' assistance to the Treasury Department. I hope that ve shall not trespass too much upon his time and energy, and I as most appreciative of your willingness to let him be the judge of how much time he can give us during the coming weeks. With cordial personal regards, Sincerely, (Signed) H. Morgenthau, Jr. Dr. Edmend 1. Day, President, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York. Orig. file to Coyne in Wer Savings GEF/dbs Photo file in Diary Regraded Unclassifie CORNELL UNIVERSITY ITHACA. NEW YORK IFICE or THE PRESIDENT April 30, 1943 Dear Mr. Secretary: After a considerable absence from the University, I have returned to find your letter respecting the service which Dr. William I. Myers has been rendering to the Treasury Department as consultant on problems incident to the formation of a war savings program for farmers. I am much pleased, though not at all surprised, to learn that Dr. Myers has proven SQ valuable to the Department in this important section of the war financing program. He is, of course, an exceptionally able man. For this very reason, he is, as you can readily understand, in great demand. Recently there have been developments here in New York State, in connection with the critical food situation, which have brought Dr. Myers under great pressure to work on problems closely related to his regular post in the New York State College of Agriculture. Just how much time he can give to the Treasury Department under these circum- stances I do not know. My own inclination 1s to leave the matter very largely to him, since he alone can see clearly all the factors that are involved. Meanwhile, I can assure you that the University is eager to do whatever it can to assist in the supremely important contributions made by the Treasury Department to the national war effort. Sincerely yours, Hon. Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury Washington, L.C. Regraded Unclassified 94 May 4, 1943. Dear Bill: Dr. Day wrote me such a nice letter about your work at Cornell, and your cooperation with the Treasury Department, that I thought you would like to have a photostat of it for your own records. I an sending it to you herewith. Needless to say, I look forward to any associations we may have with a great deal of pleasure. Sincerely, (Signed) Henry Dr. Villiam I. Myers, New York State College of Agriculture, Cornell University, Ithaca, New York. Copy in Diary Enclosure. Copies to Coyne in War Savings GEF/dbs Regraded Unclassified Treasury Department 97 DL sion of Research and Statistics Date May 6. 1943 To: Miss Channosy From: Mr. Tickton 1 95 NEW York STATE COLLEGE OF AGRICULTURE AGRICULTURAL EXPERIMENT STATION CORNELL UNIVERSITY ITHACA, NEW YORK DEPARTMENT OF AGRICULTURAL ECONOMICS AND FARM MANAGEMENT May 6, 1943 The Hon. Henry J. Morgenthau, jr. Secretary of the Treasury Washington, D. C. Dear Mr. Morgenthau, In Professor Myers' absence of several days from the office, I wish to acknowledge your letter of May 4th with which you enclosed a photostat of President Day's letter concerning Mr. Myers' cooperation with the Treasury Department in its agricultural war savings program. I am sure he will be glad to have this for his personal files. Very truly yours, Mary Nardi (Miss) Mary Nardi nn Regraded Unclassified 96 Regraded Unclass TELEGRAM Expenses of leans, st of 9/24/17, as amended and extended MAY 1- 1943 To: Corporations 02 the attached list. Last fall the nation's large corporations helped me speed up the issuance of war bonds purchased under the payroll savings plan by the suggestions and information they were good enough to submit in response to By telegram of September 9 re var bond issuance. The number of war bonds issued under the payroll plan has more than doubled einee last September, and we confidently expect the number to increase as deductions for war bond purchases continue to rise from month to month. We realize that the increased volume has been the cause of delays in bond issuance in some son- panies, yet many corporation executives in plants where the plan has resulted in maximum achievement have advised Be that it has never been truer than it is today that war bond sales can continue with full success only if the bonds are delivered promptly. Employees tell me that bonds must be issued promptly after payment if their enthusiasm for the plan is to be maintained. will you as an lesu- ing agent please wire as collect how long it takes your employees and to receive bonds after payments are completed/any suggestions you can give me for speeding up delivery. Henry Morgenthau, Jr. Secretary of the Treasury SGT:ld 5-4-43 98 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Aetna Life Insurance Co. Hartford, Conn. 7,383 Allis-Chalmers Mfg. Co. Milwaukee, Wis. 26,998 B. Altman and Co. 361 Fifth Avenue, 3,000 New York, N. Y. The Alton Railroad Co. 340 W. Harrison Street, 6,291 Chicago, Ill. Aluminum Co. of America Pittsburgh, Pa. 84,934 American Airlines, Inc. Jackson Heights, 6,072 L. I., N. Y. American Bosch Corp. Springfield, Mass. 6,700 American Can Co. 230 Park Ave. 32,238 New York, N. Y. American Car and Foundry Co. 30 Church St. 16,272 New York, N. Y. American Chain and Cable Co.Inc. Bridgeport, Conn. 8,446 American Hardware Corp. New Britain, Conn. 5,400 American Locomotive Co. 30 Church St. 16,900 New York, N. Y. American Steel and Wire Co. of New Jersey Cleveland, Ohio. 31,767 American Sugar Refining Co. New York, N. Y. 5,367 American Tel. and Tel. Co. 195 Broadway, 20,798 New York, N. Y. American Thread Co. Inc., The 260 West Broadway 6,717 New York, N. I. The American Tobacco Co. 111 5th Ave. 11,597 New York, N. Y. Regraded Unclassified - 2 - 99 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Anaconda Copper Mining Co. Butte, Mont. 49,806 Anchor Hocking Glass Corp. Lancaster, Ohio 8,478 Anheuser-Busch, Inc. St. Louis, Mo. 5,400 Arlington Mills Lawrence, Mass. 6,496 Armour and Co. Union Stock Yards 63,997 Chicago, Ill. Amstrong Cork Co. Liberty and Charlotte Sts. 15,305 Lancaster, Pa. Associated Shipbuilders 2929 - 16th Ave., S. W. 8,999 Seattle, Wash. Atlantic Coast Line Railroad Co. Wilmington, N. C. 19,978 the Atlantic Refining Co. Philadelphia, Pa. 10,000 Atlas Powder Co. 9th and Market Sts. 3,975 Wilmington, Del. Automatic Electric Co. 1033 West Van Buren St. 3,860 Chicago, Ill. Avondale Mills Sylacauga, Ala. 7,017 Baltimore and Ohio Railroad Co. Baltimore, Md. 72,544 L. Bamberger and Co. 131 Mark et St. 6,256 Newark, N. J. Bath Iron Works Corp. 4 Union St. 11,360 Bath, Maine. Bausch and Lomb Optical Co. 635 St. Paul St., 12,772 Rochester, N. Y. Bayuk Cigars Inc. N. W. Cor. 9th and Columbia Aves 4,800 Philadelphia, Pa. Bell Aircraft Corp. 2050 Elmwood Ave. 29,192 Buffalo, N. Y. Regraded Unclassified - 3 - 100 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Bell Telephone Co. of Nevada, San Francisco, Calif. 19,000 Bell Telephone Co. of Pa. 1835 Arch St. 20,166 Philadelphia, Pa. Bell Telephone Laboratories, Inc. 463 West St. 6,472 New York, N. Y. Berkshire Ktg. Mills, Wyomissing, Pa. 3,750 Bethlehem Steel Corp. 25 Broadway 273,799 New York, N. Y. Bibb Manufacturing Co. Macon, Ga. 10,336 Bigelow-Sanford Carpet Co. Inc. Atlanta, Ga. 5,275 Blaw-Knox Co., Pittsburgh, Pa. 10,279 Boeing Aircraft Co. 200 W. Michigan St. 30,825 Seattle, Wash. The Borden Co. 350 Madison Ave. 22,962 New York, N. Y. Boston Elevated Railway Co. 31 St. James Ave. 7,072 Boston, Mass. Boston and Maine Railroad, Boston, Mass. 15,569 Botany Worsted Mills, 84 - 182 Dayton Avenue 4,989 Passaic, N. J. Brewater Aeronautical Corp. Long Island City, N. Y. 16,821 Brooklyn Union Gas Co., The 176 Remsen St. 3,779 Brooklyn, N. Y. Brown Shipbuilding Corp. Green Bayou - 365 15,951 Houston, Tex. Brown and Williamson Tobacco Corp. 1600 West Hill 7,831 Louisville, Ky. Edward G. Budd Mfg. Co. 2450 Hunting Park Ave. 13,409 Philadelphia, Pa. Regraded Unclassified 101 - 4 - List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943 With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Bullock's, Inc. Broadway, Hill and 7th Sts. 3,546 Los Angeles, Calif. Burroughs Adding Machine Co. 6071 Second Blvd. 7,565 Detroit, Mich. Butler Brothers 426 W. Randolph St. 5,486 Chicago, Ill. California Shipbuilding Corp. P. 0. Box 966, 30,666 Wilmington, Calif. Callaway Mills, LaGrange, Ga. 8,282 Campbell Soup Co. 2md and Market Sts. 9,108 Camden, N. J. The Carborundum Co. Buffalo Ave., 6,197 Niagara Falls, N. Y. amation Co. Oconomowoc, Wis. 4,370 Camegie-Illinois Steel Corp. Pittsburgh, Pa. 125,000 Carson, Pirie, Scott and Co. 1 South State St. 3,576 Chicago, Ill. Casco Products Corp. 133 Railroad Ave., 1,589 Bridgeport, Conn. Caterpillar Tractor Co. Peoria, Ill. 17,554 Celanese Corporation of 180 Madison Ave. 12,836 America New York, N. Y. Central of Georgia Railway Savannah, Oa. 5,515 Company The Chesapeake and Potomac 725 - 13th St., N. W. 5,472 Telephone Co., Washington, D. C. Chicago Bridge and Iron Co. 1305 West 105th St. 17,730 Chicago, Ill. Chicago Burlington and 547 West Jackson Boulevard, 30,659 Quincy Railroad Co. Chicago, Ill. Regraded Unclassified 102 - 5 - List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Chicago and Eastern Illinois 332 South Michigan Ave. 4,925 Railroad Co. Chicago, Ill. Chicago Great Western Railway Co. 309 West Jackson Boulevard, 4,449 Chicago, Ill. Chicago Mill and Lumber Co. 111 W. Washington St. 3,676 Chicago, Ill. Chicago, Milwaukee, St. Paul Union Station - Room 732 - 30,338 and Pacific Railroad Co. Chicago, Ill. Chicago and North Western 400 West Madison St. 25,700 Railway Co. Chicago, Ill. Chicago Rapid Transit Co. 72 West Adams St. 4,787 Chicago, Ill. Chicago, Rock Island and LaSalle Street Station, 21,000 Pacific Railroad Co. Chicago, Ill. Chicago, St. Paul, Minneapolis, 275 E. 4th St. 4;913 and Omaha Railway, Company, St. Paul, Minn. Chicago Surface Lines, 231 South LaSalle St. 16,839 Chicago, Ill. Childs Co. 200 Fifth Ave. 7,983 New York, N. Y. Chrysler Corp. 341 Massachusetts Ave. 86,000 Detroit, Mich. Cities Service Oil Co. Bartlesville, Okla. 7,550 City Ice and Fuel Co. Clevelani, Ohio 5,106 Clevelard Electric Illuminating Cleveland, Ohio 3,480 Company The Cleveland Graphite Bronze Co. 16800 St. Clair Ave. 6,889 Cleveland, Ohio. Cleveland Railway Company, Cleveland, Ohio 4,200 Regraded Unclassified - 6 - 103 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Cluett, Peabody and Co., Inc., 433 River St., 5,605 Troy, N. Y. The Coca-Cola Co., 101 W. 10 St., 4,014 Wilmington, Del. Colgate-Palmolive-Pect Co., 105 Hudson St., 6,268 Jersey City, No J. Columbia Pictures Corp., 729 7th Ave., 2,063 New York, N. I. Columbia Steel Co., Russ Building, 5,621 San Francisco, Calif. Combustion Engineering Co., Inc., 200 Madison Ave., 1,716 New York, N. Y. Commercial Investment Trust Corp., 1 Park Ave., 3,412 New York, N. Y. mercial Iron Works, Foot of S. W. Gibbs St., 9,124 Box 2230, Portland, Oreg. Commonwealth Edison Co., 72 W. Adams St., 15,913 Chicago, Ill. Consolidated Aircraft Corp., 3302 Pacific Highway, 43,513 San Diego, Calif. Consolidated Gas Electric Light and Lexington Building, 4,814 Power Company of Baltimore, Baltimore, Md. Consolidated 011 Corporation 630 Fifth Ave., 17,626 New York, N. Y. Consolidated Steel Corp. of Texas Foot of Frount St., 36,563 Orange, Texas Consolidated Water Power and Paper Wisconsin Rapids, Wis. 1,489 Company, Consolidation Coal Co., 30 Rockefeller Plaza, 9,012 New York, N. Y. {"ntinental Baking Co., 630 5th Ave., 11,180 New York, N. I. Continental Can Co., Inc., 100 East 42nd St., 13,040 New York, N. I. Regraded Unclassified - 7 - 104 Idst of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Continental Roll and Steel Foundry 144 St. and Railroad Ave., 6,268 Company, East Chicago, Ind. Crane Co., 836 S. Michigan Ave., 17,560 Chicago, n. Crown Zellerbach Corp., 343 Sansome St., 6,990 San Francisco, Calif. Crucible Steel Company of America, 405 Lexington Ave., 27,424 New York, N. I. The Cudahy Packing Co., 221 N. LaSalle St., 16,534 Chicago, n. The Cuneo Press, Inc., 2242 Grove St., 6,540 Chicago, n. Curtiss Wright Corp., Buffalo, N. I. 40,400 Curtiss Wright Corp., Airplane Robertson, 13,359 Mision, Missouri Curtiss-Wright Corp., Caldwell, 7,864 Propeller Division New Jersey Cutler-Hammer, Inc., 315 No 12th St., 8,587 Milwaukee, Wis. The Dayton Co., Minneapolis, 2,300 Minnesota Deare and Company, 1325 3rd Ave., 15,028 Moline, n. Delaware and Hudson Railroad Corp., 230 Park Ave., 9,189 New York, N. Y. Delta Shipbuilding Co., Inc., New Orleans, 17,000 Louisiana The Detroit Edison Co., 2000 2nd Ave., 7,750 Detroit, Mich. The Diamond Match Co., 30 Church St., 4,546 New York, N. Y. ary Diston and Sons Inc., Uhruh and Milnar Sts., 3,805 Tacony, Philadelphia, Pa. *Cramp Shipyards Richmond and Norris Streets 14,000 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Regraded Unclassified - 8 - 105 Idst of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Dohler Die Casting Co., 384 4th Ave., 15,121 New York, N. Y. Dravo Corp., Pittsburgh, 4,500 Pennsylvania Indiana Ordnance Works, Charlestown, 10,000 B. I. du Pont de Nemours and Co., Indiana 3. I. du Pont de Nemours and Co., Joliet, 4,200 Kankakee Ordnance Works, Illinois Eaton Manufacturing Co., 739 E. 140th St., 12,658 Cleveland, Ohio Thomas A. Edison Inc., 51 Lakeside Ave., 4,850 West Orange, N. J. Klectric Auto-Lite Co., Champlain and Chestnut, 12,851 Toledo, Ohio Pectric Boat Co., Groton, 10,997 Connecticut Electric Storage Battery Co., 19th and Allegheny Ave., 4,719 Philadelphia, Pa. Kigin Joliet and Eastern Railway Co.,208 S. LaSalle St., 6,096 Chicago, Ill. The Emerson Electric Mfg. Co., 1824 Washington Ave., 7,828 St. Louis, Mo. Endicott Johnson Corp., Sales Building, 18,017 Endicott, N. Y. Equitable Idfe Assurance Society 393 - 7th Ave., 3,892 of U. S., New York, N. Y. Erie Railroad Co., Midland Building, 23,328 Cleveland, Ohio The Fafnir Bearing Co., 37 Booth St., 6,553 New Britain, Conn. Fairbanks, Morse and Co., 600 S. Michigan Ave., 7,734 Chicago, n. Regraded Unclassified - 9 - 106 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943 With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Famous Barr Co., St. Louis, Mo. 8,437 Federal Cartridge Corp. New Brighton, Minn. 20,409 Federal Shipbuilding and Kearny, N. J. 21,123 Dry Dock Co. Marshall Field and Co. 22 West North Bank Drive, 10,679 Chicago, Ill. Wm. Filene Sons Co. 426 Wash. St. 2,995 Boston, Mass. Firestone Tire and Rubber Co. Akron, Ohio 50,663 The Flintkote Co. 50 W. 50th St. 3,888 New York, N. Y. Ford, Bacon and Davis, Inc. Marshall, Tex. 4,500 Longhorn Ordnance Works Ford Instrument Co., 32-36 47th Ave. 5,150 Long Island City, N. Y. Ford Motor Co. 3600 Shaffer Rd. 162,558 Dearborn, Mich. Julius Forstmann and Co. Inc., Passaic, N. J. 4,000 George A. Fuller Co. and Merrit- Quonset Point, R. I. 11,539 Chapman and Scott Corp. Naval Air Base General American Transportation 135 S. LaSalle St. 6,500 Corp. Chicago, m. General Aniline and Film Corp. 230 Park Ave, 6,207 New York, N. Y. General Cigar Co., Inc., 119 West 40th St. 5,500 New York, N. Y. General Electric Co. 1 River Road, 182,051 Schenectady, N. Y. General Fire Extinguisher Corp. 260 W. Exchange St. 4,400 Providence, R. I. Regraded Unclassified 107 - 10 - List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees General Foods Corp., 250 Park Ave. 9,819 General Machinery Corp., Hamilton, Ohio 3,466 General Motors Corp. 3044 West Grand Blvd. 327,925 Detroit, Mich. General Petroleum Corp., 108 W. 2nd St. 3,882 Los Angeles, Calif. General Refractories Co. 1600 Real Estate Building 6,145 Philadelphia, Pa. General Steel Castings Corp. Eddystone, Pa. 7,562 General Tire and Rubber Co. Englewood, Ave. 3,020 Akron, Ohio. Georgia Power Co. Atlanta, Ga. 4,584 The Glidden Co. 11001 Madison Ave. 2,363 Cleveland, Ohio. Goldblatt Bros., Inc., 3932 S. Wolcott Ave. 5,177 Chicago, Ill. B. F. Goodrick Co. 500 S. Main St. 34,429 Akron, Ohio. The Great Atlantic and Pacific 420 Lexington Ave. 59,507 Tea Co. New York, N. Y. Great Northern Railway Co. St. Paul, Minn- 25,206 Greenfield Tap and Die Corp. Sanderson St. 8,286 Greenfield, Mass. Grumman Aircraft Engineering Corp. Bethpage, New York. 15,500 Galveston, Tex. 5,000 Gulf Colorado and Santa Fe Railway Company, Hale Brothers Stores, Inc., 901 Market St. 1,187 San Francisco, Calif. Regraded Unclassified - 11 - 108 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Harbison-Walker Refractories Co., Pittsburgh, Pa. 6,754 Hart Schaffner and Marx 36 8. Franklin St., 4,000 Chicago, Ill. Hazel-Atlas Glass Co., Wheeling, We Va. 7,472 Hearst Publications, Ino., Market and Third Sts., 8,131 San Francisco, Calif H. J. Heins Co., Pittsburgh, Pa. 7,776 Hercules Powder Co., Inc., Pulaski, Va. 32,651 New River Ordnance Plant Hershey Chocolate Corp., 19 B. Chocolate Ave., 3,081 Hershey, Pa. Higbee Co., Cleveland, Ohio 2,115 Higgins Industries, Inc., 521 City Park Avenue, 7,029 New Orleans, La. H. P. Hood and Sons, Ino., "500 Rutherford Ave., 4,101 Boston, Mass. Hoover Co., North Canton, Ohio 4,019 Austin, Minn. 4,806 George A. Hormel end Co., Horn and Hardart Co., 600 W. 50th St., 6,000 New York, N. Y. Joseph Horne Co., 501 Penn Ave., 2,310 Pittsburgh, Pa. Houston, Texas 21,346 Houston Shipbuilding Corp., 1206 Woodward Ave., 8,500 The J. L. Hudson Co., Detroit, Mich. Hughes Tool Co., 300 Hughes St., 9,033 Houston, Texas. Regraded Unclassified - 12 - 109 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943 With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees The Ingalls Shipbuilding Corp., Pascagoula, Miss. 10,192 Inland Steel Co. 38 South Dearborn St. 16,769 Chicago, n. International Harvester Do. 180 North Michigan Ave. 56,253 Chicago, n. International Paper Oo. 220 East 42 St. New York, N. Y. 17,085 International Shoe Co. 1509 Washington Ave. 31,935 St. Louis, Mo. John Hancock Mutual Life Ins. Co. 197 Clarendon St. 4,000 Boston, Mass. Johnson and Johnson Hamilton St. 7,460 New Brunswick, N. J. Cnes and Laughlin Steel Corp. 3rd and Ross Sts. 36,709 Pittsburgh, Pa. Jordan Marsh Co. 450 Washington St. 4,000 Boston, Mass. Kahn and Feldman, Inc. 200 Madison Ave. 7,310 New York, N. Y. Kaiser Co., Inc. 1522 Latham Sq. Bldg. 179,000 Oakland, Calif. Kansas City Southern Railway Oo. 114 West 11th St. 4.756 Kansas City, Mo. Kearney and Trecker Corp. Milwaukse, Wis. 4,635 Kelsey Hayes Wheel Co. 3600 Military Ave. 8,499 Detroit, Mich. Koppers United Co. Kopper Building 21,594 Pittsburgh, Pa. Kraft Cheese Oo. San Francisco, Calif. 9,500 oger Grocery and Baking Oo. 35 1. 7th St. 21,691 Cincinnati, Ohio. Regraded Unclassified - 13 - 110 List of Issuing Agents, Subject & Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Lake Washington Shipyards, Houghton, Wash. 7,950 Lehigh Valley Coal Com 133 N. River St., 5,738 Wilkes Barre, Pa. Lever Brothers Co., 50 Memorial Drive, 4,800 Cambridge, Mess. Libby, McNeill and Libby, Union atock Yards, 4,396 Chicago, n. Liberty Mutual Insurance Co., 175 Berkeley St., 4,600 Boston, Mass. S. Liebovitz and Sons, Inc., New York, N. Y. 4,877 Liggett Drug Co., Inc., New York, N. Y. 6,000 Link-Belt Company, 307 N. Michigan Ave., 9,230 Chicago, Ill. Lit Brothers, 8th and Market Streets, 3,087 Philadelphia, Pa. Loew's Incorporated, 1540 Broadway, 10,935 New York, N. Y. Loft Candy Corporation, Long Island City, N. Y. 3,560 Loose Wiles Biscuit Co., 811 Commerce Building, 9,786 Kansas City, Mo. Los Angeles Railway Corp., 1060 South Broadway, 4,023 Los Angeles, Calif. Los Angeles Shipbuilding and Post Office Box 231, 9,600 Drydock Corporation, San Pedro, Calif. Louisville and Nashville Louisville, 31,520 Railroad Co., Kentucky McClellan Stores Co., 55th Fifth Ave., 6,700 New York, N. Y. McQuay-Norris Manufacturing 2320 Marconi Ave., 9,975 Co., Ordnance Management Div. St. Louis, Mo. Regraded Unclassified -.14 - 111 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Mack Manufacturing Co., 34th St. and 48th Ave., 5,670 Long Island City, N. Y. Magnolia Petroleum Co., Post Office Box 900, 8,227 Dallas, Texas Mandel Brothers, Inc., 1 N. State Street, 3,300 Chicago, n. Manitowoc Ship Building Co., Menitowoc, Wis. 6,738 Marin Shipbuilding, Sausalito, Calif. 16,619 The Glenn L. Martin Company, Baltimore, Md. 62,779 The Maryland Drydock Company, Baltimore, Md. 8,440 Merck and Company, Inc., Lincoln Avenue, 3,770 Rahwey, N. J. Metropolitan Life Insurance Co.,1 Medison Avenue, 17,924 New York, N. Y. Michigan Bell Telephone Co., 1365 Cass Avenue, 14,207 Detroit, Mich. Minneapolis-Honeywell Minnespolis, 7,133 Regulator Co., Minn. Mohawk Carpet Mills Inc., 57 Lyon St., 4,600 Amsterdam, N. Y. The Mohican Co., 280 Broadway, 1,375 New York, N. Y. Victor Monaghan Company, Greenville, S. C. 4,155 Monsanto Chemical Co., 1700 So. 2nd St., 9,731 St. Louis, Mo. Montgomery Ward and Co., Inc., Room 8-A 619 W. Chicago Ave., 58,000 Chicago, nl. Ottumwa, Iowa. 8,585 John Morrell and Co., Mountain States Telephone P. 0. Box 960, 10,455 and Telegraph Co., Denver, Colo. Regraded Unclassified - 15 - 112 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees The Murray Corporation of America, 7700 Russell St. 12,646 Detroit, Mich. Nash-Kelvinator Corp. 14250 Plymouth Road, 17,132 Detroit, Mich. The Nashville, Chattanooga and Nashville, Tenn. 8,571 St. Louis Railway, National Biscuit Co. 449 West 14th St. 21,826 New York, N. Y. National Cash Register Co. Main and K Sts. 11,059 Dayton, Ohio. National Distillers Products Corp. 120 Broadway 4.034 New York, N. Y. National Fireworks, Inc. West Hanover, Mass. 8,802 .ional Lead Co. 111 Broadway, 8,122 New York, N. Y. National Malleable and Steel 10600 Quincy Ave. 8,559 Castings Co. Cleveland, Ohio. The National Supply Co. Grant Bldg. Box 416, 10,564 Pittsburgh, Pa. 1000 N. Crosby St. 6,868 National Tea Co. Chicago, Ill. New England Power Service Co. Boston, Mass. 20,319 New England Telephone & Telegraph Co. 50 Oliver St. 22,480 Boston, Mass. New Jersey Bell Telephone Co. 540 Broad St. 14,750 Newark, N. J. 466 Lexington Ave. 126,429 New York Central System, New York, N. Y. 51 Madison Ave. 4,121 New York Life Insurance Co. New York, 1. Y. 24,931 The N.Y.N.H. and Hartford R.R. Go. 71 Meadow St. New Haven, Conn. Regraded Unclassified - 16 - 113 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943 With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees liew York Telephone Co. 140 West Street 39,326 New York, N. Y. Newport News Shipbuilding and Newport News, 51,278 Dry Dook Company, Virginia. llews Syndicate Co., Inc. 220 East 42 Street 2,721 New York, N. Y. North American Aviation, Inc. 5701 Imperial Highway 55,367 Inglewood, California Northwest Airlines, Inc. St. Paul, Minn. 5,469 Northwestern Bell Tele. Co. Omaha, Nebraska 13,335 Norton Company, Worcester, Mass. 15,029 Ohio Bell Tele. Co. Cleveland, Ohio 11,365 hio Oil Company, Findlay, Ohio 5,226 Oliver Iron Mining Co. Duluth, Minn. 5,866 Oregon Shipbuilding Corp. Portland, Ore. 28,214 Otis Steel Company, Cleveland, Ohio 5,058 Pacific Electric Railway Co. Los Angeles, Calif. 4,671 Pacific Gas and Electric Co. 245 Market Street 11,990 San Francisco, Calif. Pacific Mills, 140 Federal Street 12,174 Boston, Mass. Pacific Telephone and San Francisco, Calif. 41,325 Telegraph Co. Packard Motor Car Co. 1580 East Grand Blvd. 28,694 Detroit, Mich. Regraded Unclassified - 17 - 114 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Paramount Pictures, Ino., 1501 Broadway 8,106 New York, N. Y. The Parker Appliance Co., 17325 Euclid Ave. 5,427 Cleveland, Ohio Peabody Coal Company, 231 So. LaSallo Street 7,991 Chicago, Ill. Pennsylvania Power and Light Co., 9th and Hamilton Sts. 5,270 Allentown, Pa. Pennsylvania Railroad Co. Broad Street Station 172,532 Philadelphia, Pa. Peoples Gas Light and Coke Co. 122 S. Michigan Ave. 3,861 Chicago, Ill. Pore Marquette Railway Co. Terminal Tower, 6,515 Cleveland, Ohio helps Dodge Corp., 40 Wall Street 19,119 New York, N. Y. Philadelphia Electric Co. 1000 Chestnut Street 6,000 Philadelphia, Pa. Philadelphia Transportation Co. Mitten Bldg. 11,178 Broad and Looust St., Philadelphia, Pa. Philco Corporation, Tioga and C Sts. 9,285 Philadelphia, Pa. Phillips Petroleum Co. Bartlesville, Oklahoma 10,369 Pickands Mather and Company, 2000 Union Commerce Bldg. 5,152 Cleveland, Ohio Pittsburgh Steel Company, 1600 Grant Building, 8,447 Pittsburgh, Pa. Potlatch Forests, Ino. Lewiston, Idaho 3,677 Potts and Callahan Contracting Baltimore, Maryland 10,000 Company, Incorporated tratt Whitney-Niles-Bement Pond Co. West Hartford, Conn. 5,813 Regraded Unclassified -18- 115 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 14, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Proximity Manufacturing Co. Greensboro, N. C. 4,902 Public Service Co. of Northern 72 West Adams. Street, 4,376 Illinois Chicago, Illinois Public Service Corporation of N. J. 80 Park Place 19,343 Newark, N. J. Pullman Company 79 East Adams Street, 26,848 Chicago, Illinois Pullman-Standard Car Manufacturing 79 Best Adams Street, 18,471 Company Chicago, Illinois Pure Oil Co. 35 E. Wacker Drive 6,995 Chicago, Illinois RCA Manufacturing Co., Ino. Front and Cooper Sts. 32,288 Camden, N. J. K. 0. Radio Pictures, Inc. 1270 Sixth Ave. 395 New York, N. Y. Railway Express Agency, Inc. 230 Park Avenue 50,600 New York, N. Y. The Rath Packing Company, Waterloo, Iowa 6,405 Raybestos Manhattan Ino. 61 Willott Street 4,032 Passaic, N. J. Reading Company, Reading Terminal 19,300 Philadelphia, Pa. Remington Arms Co., Ino. 939 Barnum Ave. 95,503 Bridgeport, Conn. Remington Rand, Ino. 465 Washington St. 9.653 Buffalo, N. Y. Republic Steel Corp., 1630 Republic Building 67,322 Cleveland, Ohio Reynolds Metals Company, Richmond, Virginia 13,573 R. J. Reynolds Tobacco Company, Winston-Salem, N. C. 12,051 Regraded Unclassified 116 -19- List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees Rheem Manufacturing Co., P. 0. Box 7, 4,576 Richmond, Calif. Richfield 011 Corporation, Richfield Building, 2,550 Los Angeles, Calif. Riggs Distler and Company, Inc., Baltimore, Md. 180 Riverside and Dan River Cotton Danville, 14,538 Mills, Incorporated, Virginia. John A. Roebling's Sons Co., 640 S. Broad St., 8,438 Trenton, N. J. SKF Industries Inc., Front St. and Erie Ave., 7,281 Philadelphia, Pa. Saco-Lowell Shops, Biddeford, Maine. 3,048 Safeway Stores Inc., 201 Fourth St., 21,602 Oakland, Calif. St. Louis Public Service Co., 3869 Park Ave., 4,200 St. Louis, Mo. Sanderson and Porter, Elwood Ordnance Plant, 10,000 Joliet, Ill. Schenley Distillers Corp., 26 E. 6th St., 5,423 Cincinnati, Ohio. Columbus, Ohio. 4,812 Schiff Company, Scovill Manufacturing Co., 99 Mill St., 10,253 Waterbury, Conn. Sears Roebuck and Company, 925 South Homan Ave., 79,826 Chicago, nl. Seattle-Tacoma Shipbuilding Corp., 2400 - 11th Avenue, N. W., 41,863 Seattle, Wash. Evansville, Ind. 9,572 Servel, Incorporated, Frank G. Shattuck Co., 59 West 25 St., 7,633 New York, N. Y. Regraded Unclassified 117 - 20 - List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of Employees Sheffield Steel Corp., Sheffield Station, Kansas City, Mo. 3,896 Singer Manufacturing Co., 149 Broadway, New York, N. Y. 15,368 Sloss-Sheffield Steel and Iron Co.,3131 N. 1st Ave., Birmingham, Ala. 3,606 A. 0. Smith Corp., 3533 N. 27th St., Milwaukee, Wis. 14,545 N. Snellenburg and Co., Market 11th and 12th Sts., Philadelphia, Pa. 2,366 Socony-Vacuum Oil Co., Inc., 26 Broadway, New York, N. Y. 32,017 South Portland Shipbuilding Corp., South Portland, Me. 27,000 Southeastern Shipbuilding Corp., Savannah, Ga. 11,924 Southern Bell Telephone and Telegraph Co., Atlanta, Ga. 28,904 Southern California Gas Co., Metropolitan Station, Box 6110, Los Angeles, Calif. 5,185 Southern California Telephone Co., San Francisco, Calif. 14,594 Southern New England Telephone Co. 227 Church St., New Haven, Conn. 5,875 Southern Pacific Co., 65 Market St., San Francisco, Calif. 62,460 Southern Railway Co., 15 and K Sts., N. W., Washington, D. C. 45,763 Southwestern Bell Telephone Co., 1010 Pine St., St. Louis, Mo. 33,119 Spiegel, Inc., 1061 W. 35th St., Chicago, Ill. 5,400 R. Squibbe and Sons, 25 Columbia Hgts., Brooklyn, N. Y. 4,411 Regraded Unclassified 118 - 21 - List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943. Name Address Number of employees Standard Brands, Inc., 595 Madison Ave., New York, N. Y. 7,900 Standard Oil Co. of Calif., 225 Bush, San Francisco, Calif. 17,879 Standard 011 of Indiana, 910 South Michigan Ave., Chicago, Ill. 28,821 Standard Oil Co. of La., Baton Rouge, La. (P. 0. Box 1111) 7,900 Standard Oil Co., of N. J., 30 Rockefeller Plaza, New York, N. Y. 41,290 Standolind Oil and Gas Co., Philcode Bldg., Tulsa, Okla. 3,532 Stewart-Warner Corp., 1826 Diversey Pkwy., Chicago, Ill. 13,439 Lix, Baer and Fuller Dry Goods Co. 603 Washington Ave., St. Louis, Mo. 2,250 Sun 011 Co., 1608 Walnut St., Philadelphia, Pa. 11,581 Sun Shipbuilding and Dry Dock Co. Pt. Morton Ave., Chester, Pa. 32,758 Swift and Co., Union Stock Yards, Chicago, Ill. 59,013 Sylvania Electric Products, Inc., 60 Boston St., Salem, Mass. 9,280 Tampa Shipbuilding Co., Inc., 19th and Grant Sts., Tampa, Fla. 13,465 Tennessee Coal, Iron and Railroad Co., Brown-Marx Bldg., Birmingham, Ala. 26,000 Terminal R. R. Ass'n. of St. Louis,St. Louis, Mo. 5,274 The Texas Co., 135 E. 42nd St., New York, N. Y. 23,200 Texas and New Orleans Railroad Co. 913 Franklin Ave., Houston, Tex. 17,997 Regraded Unclassified - 22 - 119 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees the Texas and Pacific Railway Co., 503 Texas and Pacific Bldg., 10,136 Dallas, Texas Thompson Products, Inc., 2196 Clarkwood Road, 14,860 Cleveland, Ohio Tide Water Associated 011 Co., 17 Battery Place, 9,202 New York, N. Y. Timken Roller Bearing Co., 1835 Dusber Ave., 17,493 Canton, Ohio Todd Bath Iron Shipbuilding Corp., South Portland, Me. 27,000 part of, New England Shipbuilding Corp. Todd Erie Basin Dry Docks, Inc., 1 Broadway, 7,400 New York, N. Y. Todd Hoboken Dry Docks, Inc., Park Ave. and 17th St., 5,658 Hoboken, N. J. iscon Steel Co., Youngstown, Ohio 4,307 20th Century-Fox Film Corp., 444 West 56 St., 2,648 New York, N. Y. Underwood, Elliott, Fisher Co., 141 Broadway, 8,647 New York, N. I. Union Bag and Paper Corp., Savannah, Ga. 5,201 Union 011 Company of California Los Angeles, Calif 6,944 Union Switch and Signal Co., Swissvale, Pa. 4,047 United Air Lines Transport Corp., United Air Lines Bldg., 7,038 Minicipal Airport, Chicago, n. United Cigar-Whelan Stores Corp., 215 Fourth Ave., 5,000 New York, N. Y. United Drug Inc., 43 Leon St., 6,099 Boston, Mass. United Shoe Machinery Corp., 140 Federal St., 10,000 Boston, Mass. Regraded Unclassified - 23 - 120 List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943, With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees United States Gypsum Co., 300 West Adams St., 6,370 Chicago, m. Universal Atlas Cement Co., 71 Broadway, 4,397 New York, N. I. Van Raalte Co., Inc., 417 5th Ave., 3,361 New York, N. Y. Wagner Electric Corp., 6400 Flymouth Ave., 4,559 St. Louis, Mo. Waldorf System, Inc., 169 High St., 2,100 Boston, Mass. Walgreen Co., 744 East Bowen Ave., 22,509 Chicago, n. Walworth Co., Inc., 60 1. 42nd St., 8,058 New York, N. I. Warner Brothers Pictures, Inc., 321 West 44th St., 12,834 New York, N. Y. Warner and Swasey Co., 5701 Carnegie, 6,313 Clevelsed, Ohio West Virginia Pulp and Paper Co., 230 Park Ave., 6,041 New York, N. Y. Western Electric Co., 195 Broadway, 75,116 New York, N. Y. Western Pacific Railroad Co., Mills Building 5,850 San Francisco, Calif. Western Pipe and Steel Co., 200 Bush St., 17,199 San Prancisco, Calif. Western Union Telegraph Co., The 60 Hudson St., 36,500 New York, N. Y. The Western Union Telegraph Co., 722 Market St., Room 234, 6,250 Pacific Division San Francisco, Calif. Westinghouse Air Brake Co., Wilmerding, Pa. 9,717 inghouse Electric and Mfg. Co., Pittsburgh, Pa. 101,692 Regraded Unclassified 121 - 24 - List of Issuing Agents, Subject of Telegram, May 4, 1943 With the Latest Employment Data Available, May 1, 1943 Name Address Number of employees White Construction Co., Inc., New York, N. Y. 389 Floyd Bennett Field Whitin Machine Works, Whitinsville, Mass. 4,123 Wickwire Spencer Steel Co., New York, N. Y. 3,952 500 - 5th Ave. Willamette Iron and Steel Corp., 3050 N. W. Front Ave. Portland, Oreg. 14,676 Wilson and Co., Inc., 41st St. and Ashland Ave Chicago, Ill. 27,952 Winchester Repeating Arms Co., New Haven, Conn. 12,886 Davision of Western Cartridge Co., Wisconsin Telephone Co., 722 North Broadway Milwaukee, Wis. 7,868 R. Worcester and Co., and Mathew Cummings Co., Inc. Taunton, Mass. 900 Wright Aeronautical Corporation, Cincinnati, Ohio 12,107 Youngstown Sheet and Tube Co. Youngstown, Ohio 22,947 Zenith Radio Corp., 6001 W. Dickens Ave., Chicago, Ill. 5,518 Regraded Unclassified