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#141 -- 7 044 have only just begun to feel their power and when a man gets power at first he does not know how to use it, but he does after a bit. I am perfectly certain it is going to turn out right in the end. THE PRESIDENT: Some of our unions are going to work out really well. LORD ILLIFFE: The result of the general strike in England in 1926, I think, is that it gave unions a greater feeling of responsibility than they felt before. They really thought that it was possible for them to do anything and they did not consider the interest of the Nation as a whole. Before 1926 they played their own hand; after 1926 they realized that they have to consider the general good of the public. In the United States, as soon as they realize that, you will find that the union system works all right. In these days, when you have organized capital you have to have organized labor, and each side has to realize its responsibility for the public good as a whole. Q Does England recognize the principle of collective bargaining? LORD ILLIFFE: Oh, yes; it does. THE PRESIDENT: Did the bill pass the present House of Commons that was pending away back in June before I went off on my trip? It was a bill which would give the government enforcement authority in the case of agreements which had been made in any particular industry between labor and capital. As I recall it, there was some bill pending of that kind and it was a government measure. LORD ILLIFFE: I don't remember it. Was it just recently? THE PRESIDENT: It was in June before I went on my trip. LORD ILLIFFE: I don't remember that. You mean to enforce agreements that have been arrived at voluntarily between capital and labor, that they should be enforced by government?

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