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Withdrawal/Redaction Sheet
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11. Memcon
Re: Meeting with Brian Mulroney, Prime Minister of Canada
10/7/92
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C
[FOIA exemptions redacted] (3 pp.)
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Presidential Correspondence
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Presidential Memcons
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Presidential Meetings - Memorandum of Conversations 7/9/92 - 12/22/92
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CONFIDENTIAL
CONFIDENTIAL
GEORGE H.W. BUSH
7717
THE WHITE HOUSE
510
WASHINGTON
LIBRARY
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
SUBJECT:
Meeting with Brian Mulroney, Prime Minister
of Canada (U)
PARTICIPANTS:
The President
James A. Baker, III, Chief of Staff
Lawrence Eagleburger, Acting Secretary of
State
Brent Scowcroft, Assistant to the President
for National Security Affairs
Peter Teeley, U.S. Ambassador to Canada
Thomas M. Niles, Assistant Secretary of State
for European and Canadian Affairs
Eric Melby, Senior Director for
International Economic Affairs, NSC
Brian Mulroney, Prime Minister of Canada
Derek Burney, Ambassador to the United States
Michael Wilson, Trade Minister
Gilles Loiselle, President of the Treasury
Board
Donald Campbell, Deputy Minister of
International Trade and External Affairs
James Judd, Assistant Secretary to the
Cabinet, Foreign and Defense Policy
DATE, TIME
October 7, 1992, 4:40 p.m.-5:00 p.m.
AND PLACE:
Plaza de San Antonio Hotel, San Antonio,
Texas
The President: Thank you for coming all this way. I am very
comfortable with the overall relationship. I am sure we have
some trade matters but otherwise things are fine. (U)
Prime Minister Mulroney: The inter-agency Howe Group at the NSC
is good news for us. Thank you for setting it up. I thought I
might have to bend your ear on lumber. But I understand Derek
and Brent are working on it and so it may be in hand. (e)
Steel is a looming problem. But Derek is working with Brent and
Larry on it. (ø)
I want to raise another issue. Jim Bolger of New Zealand, whom I
saw recently, wants a Security Council seat. He is looking for a
way to get back with the U.S. He is embarrassed by the actions
of his predecessor. (&)
DECLASSIFIED IN PART
PER E.O. 13526
CONFIDENTIAL
Declassify on: OADR
2009-0698-MR
CONFIDENTIAL
SCS 9/30/13
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The President: With our policy on nuclear weapons, why does he
still have a problem? (e)
Prime Minister Mulroney: He is a good fellow; he likes you. I
said I would raise the issue with you. (¢)
The President: What's our policy? (C)
James Baker: I broke the mold by seeing him. The security
people were quite upset. (C)
The President: Brent, let's take a look at this. (e)
Lawrence Eagleburger: New Zealand is trying hard. There are
three candidates for Security Council seats -- Sweden, Spain and
New Zealand. We need to pick two out of three. Mr. President,
as Acting Secretary I have already decided we should support New
Zealand and Spain. (e)
The President: Brian, we will follow through on New Zealand. We
have got a big China problem again. (e)
Michael Wilson: I was in Taiwan recently. The Chinese
Ambassador in Ottawa wanted to know all about my trip. (¢)
The President: China was pleased about our MFN decision. But it
is threatening publicly on the F-16 sales.
(b)(1)
(b)(1)
James Baker: Could Brent tell the Prime Minister the extent we
have moved on the nuclear issue? (e)
Brent Scowcroft: As a matter of policy our nuclear ships won't
carry tactical nuclear weapons. Only submarines will. But we
still won't say which ships carry nuclear weapons. (e)
Prime Minister Mulroney: If you don't mind, I'll follow through
with Bolger as a courtesy. (&)
The President: Fine. (U)
Lawrence Eagleburger: We cannot undercut Australia. (e)
Prime Minister Mulroney: Bolger could be the president of a
Chamber of Commerce in the U.S. The attitude is changing in New
Zealand. We're trying to help him in the Commonwealth and
Francophonie. (Φ)
I know you also want to hear about the referendum in Canada.
We're doing OK. The referendum in non-binding, only advisory.
We have a unanimous agreement representing ten premiers and the
Prime Minister. It is a generous, balanced approach. A lot of
people don't like it -- some don't like the French, Jews or
Indians. (&)
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CONFIDENTIAL
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We took a hit from Bourassa. Let me tell you something. We
struck the deal on August 28. I told the premiers to be careful
because the press was picking up cellular phone conversations
with scanners. Bourassa's legal adviser called an aide in Quebec
from his hotel room. He told her that Quebec had lost, that
Bourassa had sold out. All this was picked up by a journalist
and reported. Someone then hired two actors to read the
transcript on the radio -- the only legal way to do it. It has
caused a firestorm. (C)
But I think we can win. (U)
The President: What do you think will happen? (U)
Prime Minister Mulroney: We will get a majority in Canada. But
we need a majority plus one in each province. If Quebec votes
no, there will have to be a direct confrontation in the Quebec
legislature. Yes or no. British Columbia and Alberta will be
the toughest. The polls show that we are tied nationally at 42-
42. We are behind in BC, Alberta and Quebec where the undecided
are at 42%. (e)
Let me say one word on your debates. I won in '84 in space of 37
seconds during a debate. In '88 I almost lost the election
during the debates. You need a series of lines to get out no
matter what. Regardless of what the question is, get your
message out. You've got to cut, cut, cut. And when he's down,
stomp on him. (C)
The President: That's hardly Presidential! I gather you've got
a meeting with Salinas now. (U)
-- End of Conversation --
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