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These documents were scanned from Box R33 of the Gerald R. Ford Congressional Papers at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library. FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE MARCH 13, 1973 OFFICE OF THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS CONFERENCE OF SENATOR HUGH SCOTT AND FORD CONGRESSMAN GERALD R. FORD GERALD LIBRARY THE BRIEFING ROOM 11:21 A.M. EST MR. WARREN: The President met with the Republican Leadership this morning, as you know. The meeting lasted for more than 2-1/2 hours. Senator Scott and Congressman Ford are here to report to you on that meeting, and I will turn this over to Senator Scott. SENATOR SCOTT: Ladies and gentlemen, there were two topics presented, one by Mr. Lynn on the general matter of housing and community development, and the other by several spokesmen from the Justice Department, Dean Snead, Mr. Santa- relli and Mr. Peterson. There will be a message coming up, which we believe will come up this week, on anti-crime legislation. It will include at least four topics: The new Law Enforcement Act, directed toward the improvement of law enforcement, the reform of the Criminal Code, which will not impinge on State laws and will recodify present laws and reform certain sanctions and penalties. The Death Penalty Act, which will include a very careful, narrow definition and provision for determination of guilt and suitability of the death penalty. The Drug Traffic Act, which will include, in addi- tion to penalties applying to heroin and cocaine, particularly, a definition of major and minor offenders, and there will be new restrictions recommended on pre-trial release where there is a judicial determination of danger to society. CONGRESSMAN FORD: The other subject that was covered in some detail was the Better Communities Act. Secretary Lynn laid out the basic points that will be included. He indi- cated the actual bill will be before the several committees sometime next week. He answered questions extensively as to the transitional period, much the same as he did when he met with the Governors and with the Mayors over the last several weeks. I believe that the Members of the House and Senate who were there were convinced that under the proposal there is adequate funding during this period of transition, some- thing like $7.4 billion available in the seven categorical grant programs that would be folded into the Better Communi- ties Act. The real problem is getting the Congress to act sufficiently in time on the new program in order to help in this transitional period. MORE - 2 - SENATOR SCOTT: One other thing: The President and Secretary Lynn both made the point that the President's domestic programs for this second Administration represents the greatest investiture of power by the Federal Government which has yet been proposed, and that is an answer, I think, to the various charges of accessions of Federal power. No greater return of responsibility to State and local govern- ments has ever been proposed. FORD LIBRARY GERALD Q Mr. Ford, did Mr. Lynn answer for you a ques- tion he refused to answer for us here the other day, which is to say, what will happen if Congress does not vote this special revenue sharing, or whatever you call it now? CONGRESSMAN FORD: The title, Pete, is Better Com- munities Act. Q Right. CONGRESSMAN FORD: The question was asked, if Con- gress doesn't act, what takes place? Well, under the exist- ing law, he indicated there was about $7.4 billion available that could be utilized until the Congress either passed the new legislation or refused to. Now, the question was not asked "if Congress doesn't act," but "does act" on the appropriation bill under the existing law. I would hope that with the help of Mayors, with the help of the Governors, who I think now are being con- vinced that this approach is the better one, we could get the Congress to act, and I don't assume that the Congress won't, after they have heard the testimony, act affirmatively on a program that gives to the Governors, to the Mayors, and local officials a lot more authority and discretion. Q Mr. Ford, all over the country cities have had telegrams in the last week or 10 days telling them to stop all action on processed programs that were in the stage of being processed but got in under the deadline for public housing for low-income people, and these cities are wonder- ing what in the world to do. I thought that money was already approved. Why stop the program? It said something about irregularities and processing in the office. Did Lynn talk to you about that? CONGRESSMAN FORD: He indicated that on all projects or programs where the application had been filed and some affirmative action had been taken, they would live up to the commitments, and I think they will. I can't discuss the de- tails in each and every program. I am familiar with one or two in my own area, and by working with the regional office, as well as the office down here, I think we have gotten fair treatment in those specific projects that I am definitely familiar with. Q Why did he send these telegrams to people all over the country if he is going to live up to it? CONGRESSMAN FORD: I can't answer that, because I haven't seen the telegrams and I don't know the details in all the communities. MORE - 3 - Q What about in your own district? You men- tioned your own district. CONGRESSMAN FORD: In my own district we haven't had this problem because of the cooperation at the regional and FORD LIBRARY at the Federal level. Q Senator Scott, did the question of counsel John Dean's appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee come up at all? SENATOR SCOTT: No, it was not one of the topics dis- cussed this morning. Q Do you think the President ought to withdraw Mr. Gray's nomination? SENATOR SCOTT: No, I do not. Q Was there any indication this might happen? SENATOR SCOTT: No, there was not. Q Senator Scott, can you say what the current status of gun control legislation is in the Congress, and have you any idea why it wasn't mentioned among the four points that you mentioned? SENATOR SCOTT: Well, it is in the hands of the Judiciary Committee already, and various gun control bills are proposed. They will include, of course, the Bayh bill, and there will be bills by other Members, and the Judiciary Committee has those under consideration. So what the Presi- dent has submitted isn't new legislation. This is already in existence, being considered, and as you know, both the majority and minority parties have indicated they would like action expedited by the Judiciary Committee in the Senate, and I am sure it is true in the House. Q Was the opposition to sending up the crime bills raised this morning? SENATOR SCOTT: Opposition? Q Opposition to any point the President made in his speech? SENATOR SCOTT: Well, the President said there will be people of good will who will differ on some of the points, and it is expected that there would not be complete agreement on all of these measures. People have different opinions on the death penalty, for example. The proposal will be carefully tailored within narrow limits so as not to run counter to the present Supreme Court decision, on which you will recall nine separate opinions were filed. I Senator, how would the new Law Enforcement Assistance Act which you said was discussed differ from the present LEAA? MORE - 4 - GERALD FORD VIBRARY SENATOR SCOTT: It would provide some additional funds, in the first place. In the second place, it would give to the local communities, as I understand it -- I haven't seen the details greater discretion in the application of their funds, some wider options than they have now under general revenue sharing. I do not have further details, be- cause it wasn't elaborated. I Mr. Ford, you mentioned that your real problem now is to get Congress to act quickly in this period of transition. Did you discuss with the White House anything about the delay that Congress is having in getting a bill from the White House before it so it can see what it is acting on? CONGRESSMAN FORD: It was indicated, as I said a moment ago, that the actual bill will be in the hands of the Congress within the next week. The message came up last week. The legislation as drafted will be before the Banking and Currency Committee sometime next week. 0 Isn't that quite a long delay for the first of four bills? CONGRESSMAN FORD: I don't think there is any serious delay. If the legislation is before the two committees next week, we still have until June 30th before the end of the fiscal year to act on it, and I should think that Congress could hold hearings and take action in a three-month period. SENATOR SCOTT: Evidently the majority doesn't think there is any great hurry. We have so little business this week that I believe the highway bill is the only thing pending. We have been holding very short sessions, and the majority in both Houses seems to be concentrating simply on throwing messages back to the President in the expectation that he will veto them. But I haven't seen much new or constructive legis- lation. In other words, the party in charge of legislation does not seem to be in a great rush. Q Senator, what do you think is going to happen to the Gray nomination if the Senate Judiciary Committee today votes to call counsel Dean to testify and it is refused, as the White House has indicated? SENATOR SCOTT: Then each Senator will make up his own mind on that. They meet this afternoon at 2:00 o'clock in my office. My own feeling about it is that the attempt to get the President to send his lawyer up there to discuss matters which ought to be confidential and ought to be pro- tected, is one that should not appeal to Senators as unjust. I know if I had a lawyer, and were involved in a matter, I wouldn't want my lawyer to be called before a Con- gressional committee. I could get called, but I wouldn't want my lawyer to be called, because I might have said things confidential to him like, for example, "I did it," or "I didn't do it." Q You didn't say what you think will happen to the nomination. MORE - 5 - GERALD FORD LIBRARY SENATOR SCOTT: Helen, I think the nomination will be confirmed even SO. Q Are you suggesting that is why the President doesn't want to send Mr. Dean up? SENATOR SCOTT: No, I am saying the way I feel as a person who had a lawyer. Anything I said to the lawyer would be in confidence. It seems to me that all of you in the press are quite rightly making the point that you are entitled to the protection of certain confidential informa- tion. Now I don't know why you don't want to extend that same privilege to the President of the United States or to me or to yourselves and your lawyers. If this business of protec- tion of sources is important, it ought to be important to the President. Q Should that same protection, Senator, have been given to the witnesses at the Committee to Reelect the President whose identity was revealed by the FBI? SENATOR SCOTT: I think it depends on whether or not those people are protected under any Executive privilege. Most of them are not, the ones who were involved in that trial. The trial has disposed of it. 2 Doesn't every investigative agency require con- fidentiality of sources to do its job? SENATOR SCOTT: Well, I think investigating agen- cies ought to be protected in confidentiality of sources, and the Executive ought to be protected, too. Q Do you think the FBI should have told Mr. Dean of the names of those people who requested private inter- views with them? SENATOR SCOTT: I don't know all of the circum- stances that surround that, and you had better ask somebody who knows more of the facts. MR. WARREN: Let me interject just a moment, if I may, here because a couple of questions, I think, are predi- cated on the story in the Washington Post this morning con- cerning Mrs. Judith Hoback; is that correct? Is that what you are asking about? 0 Yes. I Not on the story in the Washington Post, but questions about her deposition, which was released by the committee. MR. WARREN: Okay. As I read the story this morn- ing, and as I am sure all of you read it, it would have been impossible for the FBI to tell John Dean about this in time for John Dean to tell the Committee for the Reelection of the President to call her in 48 hours after the initial interview. That was all in the story. Now, I can tell you this -- and I talked to John about this at great length this morning. He had no informa- tion on Mrs. Hoback's private interview, as she pointed out in her affidavit. MORE - 6 - Mr. Gray has testified that he began giving infor- mation to the Counsel to the President on July 21st. Her in terview was on July 18th. And as the story pointed out this morning, she said 48 hours after that July 18th inter- view, the Committee for the Reelection of the President officials called her in to discuss it. It was impossible GERALOR FORD VIBRARY for that to come from John Dean, and it was spelled out in the story, but the story didn't make that conclusion. Now, the July 21st date that the Acting Director was referring to refers to that summary report that you are all familiar with, and has been released. If you will go back and re-study that report, Mrs. Hoback's name is not mentioned in it. Q What about Mardian and other officials at the committee having had the information from the FBI? MR. WARREN: I think if you will check Mr. Shumway, who is still a spokesman for the Committee to Reelect the President, he will be able to answer that question for you. I am answering it from the standpoint of John Dean and the White House. There is nothing to the story. Q Have you found out just who the FBI told, then, in order for the information to get back? MR. WARREN: I think if you check with Mr. Shumway -- Q He doesn't speak for the FBI. MR. WARREN: Nor do I. I can tell you that the FBI did not tell John Dean, and John Dean did not tell the Com- mittee for the Reelection of the President. I Did the FBI tell Mr. Ehrlichman or anyone in the White House?' MR. WARREN: There was no conversation with the FBI on this matter. Now, I think I have imposed enough on the Senator and the Congressman, if you have any more questions for them. Q Senator, were any topics discussed on inter- national affairs, like Secretary Shultz's visit to Moscow? SENATOR SCOTT: No. We were discussing only these two domestic topics today. Q Senator, was there any discussion of possible inclusion in the crime message of white collar crime, such as perhaps antitrust violations or political espionage? SENATOR SCOTT: I don't know that either political espionage or antitrust violations are necessarily white collar unless you mean that people who wear blue collars never violate those laws, but I would say that they were not brought up in the context of this message. This message deals with four topics, and certainly we didn't discuss the death penalty for antitrust violations. I want to assure you we didn't. (Laughter) MORE - 7 - Q Can you tell us what areas the death penalty would be used in? SENATOR SCOTT: We will have to wait for the message for specifics, but it will cover only those areas where the Federal Government has jurisdiction. They would include cer- tain wartime offenses. They would include offenses under the GERALO FORD LIBRARY various assassination acts, protection of Federal personnel. They would include hijacking in interstate commerce, kidnapping in interstate commerce, crimes committed on Federal territory, and that sort of thing. Q Senator, would the type of murders that were committed by Lt. Calley constitute a death penalty under this new legislation? SENATOR SCOTT: Since that is a military question, and is handled by a military court martial, it would hardly be covered under the civilian Criminal Code, as I am sure you knew when you asked the question. Q This pre-trial release restriction, the fourth subject, is that related to preventive detention that was tried in the District of Columbia two years ago? SENATOR SCOTT: I don't know whether you call it preventive detention. It relates to a finding of whether or not the public safety is endangered by the release of a big-time heroin pusher, for example, as to whether or not that person would endanger society; whether there is an ongoing operation believed to be in conduct, in course, where his release would enable him to continue pushing heroin while waiting for the trial to come up. I think that is what is involved. It was not explained in detail. Q It was not as preventive detention was here, if a man might be presumed to commit a new crime? SENATOR SCOTT: Well, yes; you can see a parallel. The phrase "preventive detention" wasn't used, Bob, but I think you can see a parallel. Q Why did you volunteer that the reform of the Criminal Code would not impinge on State laws? Is it not going to extend Federal jurisdiction over crimes that are now largely considered State crimes? SENATOR SCOTT: I don't believe it is intended to at all. The revision of the code will not seek to enlarge the jurisdiction of the Federal courts. It is designed to go to the present laws, to codify them, look at penalties. Some penalties are grossly inconsistent. It will look into that. It will look at sanctions and it will endeavor to reshuffle the Criminal Code so as to make it more consistent with the practice before the courts and with the needs of the conduct of Federal criminal cases. CONGRESSMAN FORD: It was pointed out that out of all crimes that come before the courts, the Federal Government has responsibility in about 15 to 20 percent, and it was the aim of this new legislation to make it easier for the prosecutor in the courts to expedite the consideration of any of those who are charged with a crime. MORE - 8 - The Criminal Code hasn't been revised in a great many years, and this effort is aimed at helping the courts, the juries, judges, and the prosecutors so that the indivi- dual who is indicted will have speedier justice. & Senator, Newsweek magazine said you and the GERALD FORD LIBRARY Congressman were petitioning the President to see more Republican Congressmen because there were complaints on the Hill, and that you had brought the complaints to the Presi- dent's attention. We notice a lot more cars outside today. Was this an expanded meeting? SENATOR SCOTT: I don't accept the word "complaints". I think everybody wants to see the President all the time. It is perfectly correct that Jerry and I had, over some period of time, indicated to the President that we would like to see included in meetings of this kind Senators and Congressmen who otherwise will not see the operation of the leadership meetings. The President fully agreed. The only time we specifically discussed that point, he agreed immediately. There were four Senators present and four Members of the House present today, and I understand that that practice is intended to be continued and I think it is a very good one. Q You mean four additional? SENATOR SCOTT: Yes, four additional Senators and four additional Congressmen. Q Were they committee chairmen? MR. WARREN: We will give you a list. SENATOR SCOTT: Jerry will give you a list. Not necessarily. The thought is to include, among others, com- mittee chairmen, senior Representatives, and some of the freshmen from time to time. Q Is that one of the reasons it took so long this time? SENATOR SCOTT: No. They didn't ask too many ques- tions. They were free to ask them. It took longer because those are two very interesting topics. Q You seem very subdued today. SENATOR SCOTT: I am just tired, that is all. (Laughter) THE PRESS: Thank you very much. END (AT 11:45 A.M. EST) THE WHITE HOUSE 3/13/73 RN introduction/greatent drostiture of power by Pres. of Congress in history of U.S Responsive Ant act 6110mlhon Sec Lynn - Better Community act - July 1, 1974 - substitute for 7 categorical programs #2, 2, 3 hold harmless BiLL - about a week TRANSITION - 7.4 Whin unspent 1.2 billion plus (3 monthe Specifies - each city 590 william 2ndel likes. within 90 days after act passed [Photocopied from Ford Scrapbooks, Boy 14, Notes on White House Meetings, 1973-74] THE WHITE HOUSE 2 Housing - subardozed/in excess of current F.Y. "honon christing committments" Public housing / 4236, 4 you - unbsidged more than in mm subsided - twice that m 20 yrs previous 20 yrs. RN - 15%t20% federal come front local. state + Message / Death penalty 2) Drug control (dangeroms drop) THE WHITE HOUSE 3 Dean Bread - Crime (4 Gills) i) Sav Enforcement - 680 million to put memorace with states + local molification of LEAA a) Reform of federal criminal ends a) protection of state pensdiction Amprement at b) semplification of difentions c) reform I sanctions (penath) 1- more related to crime. 3) death penalty - non flexile 4) Herom traffic act capacious. genlty / pre-tivel detention THE WHITE HOUSE 4 Capital Premohment Treason, war-time sabatage, (no expronage death required) federal meander that official assasmation Kedrapping He - packing n arcotics - Penalty /Hetrin/morphone structure (hard) 1] Tero Then 4 Mands 2) Major 10 to life Houness more or Life or Death Pleatly HIGHLIGHTS OF HOUSE ACTION, FEBRUARY 6, 1973 THROUGH MARCH 12, 1973 Tuesday, February 6, 1973 GERALD FORD LIBRARY JOINT ECONOMIC REPORT The House passed H. J. Res. 299 relating to the date for the submission of the report of the Joint Economic Committee on the President's Eco- nomic Report, clearing the measure for Senate action. Wednesday, February 7, 1973 RURAL ENVIRONMENT ASSISTANCE RULE By a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 188, providing one hour of open debate. By a record vote of 237 yeas to 150 nays, the House agreed to the previous question. (GRF - Nay; Speaker - Not Voting) Yea Nay Not Voting Total Rep. 29 144 19 192 Demo. 208 6 25 239 Total 237 150 44 431 Vacancies - 3 PASSAGE By a record vote of 251 yeas to 142 nays, the House passed H.R. 2107, to require the Secretary of Agriculture to carry out a rural environ- mental assistance program. (GRF - nay; Speaker - Not voting) Yea Nay Not Voting Total Rep. 52 122 18 192 Demo. 199 20 20 239 Total 251 142 38 431 RECOMMIT By a voice vote, the House rejected a motion by Mr. Teague of California to recommit the bill to the Committee on Agriculture. (MORE) -2- Wednesday, February 7, 1973 (continued) GERALD F.O.R.D LIBRARY RURAL ENVIRONMENT ASSISTANCE Prior to final passage of the bill, by a record teller vote of 176 ayes to 217 noes, the House rejected an amendment by Mr. Mizell that sought to reduce funds in the bill by $85 million. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV Total Rep. 151 24 17 192 Demo. 25 193 21 239 Total 176 217 38 431 By a record teller vote of 132 ayes to 260 noes, the House rejected an amendment by Mr. Findley that would restrict REAP payments to farmers with an average annual net income from all sources during the preceding 3 years of $10,000 or less. (GRF - yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV Total Rep. 118 57 17 192 Demo. 14 203 22 239 Total 132 260 39 431 LYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER The House passed, and cleared for the President S. J. Res. 37, to designate the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston, Tex., as the "Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center," in honor of the late President. Thursday, February 8, 1973 AMERICAN HISTORY MONTH The House passed H.J. Res. 211, designating February of each year as "American History Month. " LINCOLN DAY RECESS House agreed to the amendments of the Senate to H. Con. Res. 105, pro- viding an adjournment of the House from Thursday, February 8, 1973, to Monday, February 19, 1973, clearing the measure. RAILWAY-LABOR DISPUTE House passed S.J. Res. 59, to extend the Railway Labor Act. Agreed to an amendment by Mr. Staggers that inserted certain House language in section I. -3- Monday, February 19, 1973 GERALD FORD LIBRARY WASHINGTON'S FAREWELL ADDRESS Pursuant to a special order agreed to on February 7, 1973, the House heard the reading of George Washington's Farewell Address by Repre- sentative Robert W. Daniel, Jr. Tuesday, February 20, 1973 AMERICAN REVOLUTION BICENTENNIAL COMMISSION -- (SUSPENSION) By a record vote of 286 yeas to 72 nays, with 1 voting "present," (Thomson of Wis.), the House voted to suspend the rules and pass H.R. 3694, to amend the joint resolution establishing the American Revolution Bicentennial Commission, as amended. (GRF - Yea; Speaker -NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 127 31 33 1 192 Demo. 159 41 39 0 239 Total 286 72 72 1 431 Wednesday, February 21, 1973 CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS By a record vote of 311 yeas to 73 nays, the House passed H. J. Res. 345, making further continuing appropriations (foreign aid; Labor-HEW) for fiscal year 1973. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 121 43 28 0 192 Demo. 190 30 19 0 239 Total 311 73 47 0 431 Thursday, February 22, 1973 EMERGENCY FARM LOAN PROGRAM RULE By a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 226, providing for one hour of open debate. PASSAGE By a record vote of 269 yeas to 95 nays, the House passed H.R. 1975, to amend the emergency loan program under the Consolidated Farm and Rural Development Act. (MORE) -4- Thursday, February 22, 1973 (cont'd) FORD LIBRARY & GERALD EMERGENCY FARM LOAN PROGRAM (cont'd) PASSAGE (repeat) By a record vote of 269 yeas to 95 nays, the House passed H.R. 1975, to amend the emergency loan program under the Consolidated Farm and Rural Development Act. (GRF - nay; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 68 93 31 0 192 Demo. 201 2 36 0 239 269 95 67 0 431 Prior to final passage, by a record teller vote of 196 ayes to 160 noes, the House agreed to an amendment by Mr. Bergland that allows eligible applicants in natural disaster areas designated by the Secretary of Agriculture to apply for 1 percent disaster loans 18 days after the effective date of this act. (GRF - no; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 19 139 34 0 192 Demo. 177 21 41 0 239 196 160 75 0 431 Monday, February 26, 1973 NO LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS Tuesday, February 27, 1973 CONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS The House disagreed to the amendments of the Senate to H. J. Res. 345, making further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 1973, and agreed to a conference asked by the Senate. Appointed as conferees: Representatives Mahon, Passman, Natcher, Flood, Hansen of Washington, Addabbo, Cederberg, Rhodes, Michel, and Shriver. INTEREST EQUALIZATION TAX RULE By a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 197, providing two hours of open debate. (MORE) -5- Tuesday, February 27, 1973 (continued) FORD & LIBRARY GERALD INTEREST EQUALIZATION TAX (cont'd) PASSAGE By a record vote of 358 yeas to 23 nays, the House passed H.R. 3577, to provide an extension of the interest equalization tax. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 159 11 21 0 191 Demo. 199 12 29 0 240 358 23 50 0 431 Wednesday, February 28, 1973 CONTINUING APPROPRIATION The House agreed to the conference report on H.J. Res. 345, making further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 1973. The House receded and concurred in certain Senate amendments, clearing the measure for Senate action. SELECT COMMITTEE ON CRIME By a record vote of 317 yeas to 75 nays, with 2 voting "present," the House agreed to H. Res. 256, creating a select committee to investigate all aspects of crime affecting the United States, until June 30, 1973. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) (Arends & Riegle voting "present") Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 108 62 19 2 191 Demo. 209 13 18 0 240 317 75 37 2 431 COMMITTEE INVESTIGATIVE AUTHORIZATION PREVIOUS QUESTION By a record vote of 204 yeas to 191 nays, with 1 voting "present," the House agreed to the previous question on H. Res. 18, Banking and Currency Committee travel authority. (Issue - Minority Staffing) (GRF -- Nay; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 0 177 14 0 191 Demo. 204 14 21 1 240 204 191 35 1 431 (MORE) -6- Wednesday, February 28, 1973 (continued) COMMITTEE ON THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA FORD & LIBRARY GERALD FAILED TO PASS By a reocrd vote of 153 yeas to 234 nays, the House failed to agree to H. Res. 257, authorizing the Committee on the District of Columbia to conduct studies and investigations. (GRF - Nay; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 12 162 17 0 191 Demo. 141 72 27 0 240 153 234 44 0 431 Thursday, March 1, 1973 RURAL WATER AND SEWER GRANTS RULE By a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 255, providing for one hour of open debate. PASSAGE By a record vote of 297 yeas to 54 nays, the House passed H.R. 3298, to restore the rural water and sewer grant program under the Con- solidated Farm and Rural Development Act. (GRF - NV; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 106 48 37 0 191 Demo. 191 6 43 0 240 297 54 80 0 431 Monday, March 5, 1973 SUSPENSIONS (2 Bills) The House voted to suspend the rules and pass the following: CHILD NUTRITION PROGRAMS By a record vote of 352 yeas to 7 nays, the House passed H.R. 4278, to assure that Federal financial assistance to the child nutrition programs is maintained at the level budgeted for fiscal year 1973. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 161 7 23 0 191 Demo. 191 0 49 0 240 352 7 72 0 431 (MORE) -7- Monday, March 5, 1973 (continued) FORD LIBRARY & GERALD SUSPENSIONS (continued) POSTSECONDARY EDUCATION By a record vote of 332 yeas to 29 nays, the House passed H. J. Res. 393, to extend the authorization of the National Commission on the Financing of Postsecondary Education and the period within which it must make its final report. (GRF -- Yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 144 24 22 0 190 Demo. 188 5 48 0 241 332 29 70 0 431 Wednesday, March 7, 1973 OPEN COMMITTEE MEETINGS RULE By a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 272, providing for one hour of open debate. The previous question was ordered on the rule - minority staffing - by a record vote of 197 yeas to 196 nays with 1 voting "present." (GRF - Nay; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 0 179 12 0 191 Demo. 197 17 25 1 240 197 196 37 1 431 PASSAGE By a record vote of 370 yeas to 27 nays, the House agreed to H. Res. 259, to amend the Rules of the House of Representatives to strengthen the requirements that committee proceedings be held in open session, (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 172 9 10 0 191 Demo. 198 18 24 0 240 370 27 34 0 431 (MORE) -8- Wednesday, March 7, 1973 (continued) GERALD FORD LIBRARY OPEN COMMITTEE MEETINGS (continued) PASSAGE (continued) Prior to final passage, by a record vote of 201 yeas to 198 nays, the House agreed to an amendment by Mr. Stratton that authorizes departmental representatives to attend closed committee meetings if authorized by that committee (same amendment was agreed to in the Committee of the Whole by a division vote of 73 yeas to 45 nays). (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) Yes Nay NV P Total Rep. 135 44 12 0 191 Demo. 66 154 20 0 240 201 198 32 0 431 VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION AMENDMENTS RULE By a voice vote the House adopted H. Res. 274, providing for one hour of open debate for the consideration of H.R. 17, Vocational Rehabilitation Act Amendments. Thursday, March 8, 1973 VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION RULE By a voice vote, on Wednesday, March 7, 1973, the House adopted H. Res. 274, providing for one hour of open debate. PASSAGE By a record vote of 318 yeas to 57 nays, the House passed H.R. 17, Vocational Rehabilitation Act of 1973. (GRF - Nay; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 118 50 23 0 191 Demo. 200 7 33 0 240 318 57 56 0 431 Subsequently, this passage was vacated, and a similar Senate-passed bill, S. 7, was passed in lieu after being amended to contain the language of the House bill as passed. (MORE) -9- Thursday, March 8, 1973 (continued) VOCATIONAL REHABILITATION (cont'd) FORD LIBRARY & GERALD PASSAGE (continued) Prior to final passage, by a record teller vote of 166 ayes to 213 noes, the House rejected an amendment by Mr. Landgrebe to the com- mittee amendment in the nature of a substitute which sought to authorize $600 million for fiscal year 1973, $630 million for fiscal year 1974, and $650 million for fiscal year 1975 for the continuation of programs authorized under the Vocational Rehabili- tation Act. (GRF - Ave; Speaker - NV) Yea Nay NV P Total Rep. 126 45 20 0 191 Demo. 40 168 33 0 241 166 213 53 0 432 Monday, March 12, 1973 DISTRICT DAY (No Bills) PROGRAM AHEAD Tuesday, March 13, 1973 H.R. 71 - Older Americans Act Amendments (OPEN RULE, ONE HOUR OF DEBATE) Wednesday, March 14, 1973, and Balance of Week S. 583 - Rules of Evidence for U.S. Courts (SUBJECT TO A RULE BEING GRANTED) H.R. 2246 - Public Works & Economic Development Act (SUBJECT TO A RULE BEING GRANTED) # # # CONGRESSIONAL STATUS OF VETO-BAIT BILLS GLRALD FORD LIBRARY SENATE BILLS HOUSE S. 50 - Passed 2/20/73 Older Americans Act H.R. 71 - Coming up Tuesday Y-82 3/13/73 N-9 S. Research on Aging H.R. 65 - Public Hearings scheduled for March 16 by Comm. on Interstate & Foreign Commerce S. 467 - Pending before Public Works & EDA Amendments H.R. 2246 - On Whip Notice for Wed. Public Works 3/14/73 or bal. of week. Committee Subject to a rule. S. 263 - Pending before Amendments to Mining & Mineral Policy H.R. 5079 - (Saylor) - Pending before Interior Committee Interior Committee S. 38 - Passed 2/5/73 Airport Development H.R. 4082 - Committee on Interstate Y-65 & Foreign Commerce begin N-15 hearings 3/14/73 S. 39 - Passed 2/21/73 Anti-Hijacking H.R. 3858 - Hearings concluded by Y-89 Committee on Interstate & Foreign Commerce. S. 606 - Passed 2/1/73 Flood Control H.R. 4904 & H.R. 4905 - Committee on Y-67 Public Works. Briefing by N-14 Gen. Clark on 3/8/73. Hearings scheduled for 3/20,21,22. S. 49 - Passed 3/6/73 National Cemetery Act H.R. 2828 - Pending before Committee Y-85 on Veterans Affairs. N-4 S. 59 - Passed 3/6/73 Veterans Health Care H.R. 2900 - Pending before Committee Y-86 on Veterans Affairs N-2 -2- GERALD FORD LIBRARY SENATE BILLS HOUSE S. 7 - Passed 2/28/73 Vocational Rehabilitation H.R. 17 - Passed 3/8/73 Y-86 Y - 318 N-2 N - 57 (Landgrebe Substitute: Y-166; N-213) H.R. 2107 - Passed 3/1/73 REAP H.R. 2107 - Passed 2/7/73 Y-71 Y - 251 N-10 N - 142 S. 394 - Passed 2/21/73 REA Extension H.R. 2276 - Committee on Agriculture Y-69 held hearings; met in N-20 executive session 3/6/73; additional hearings sched- uled to begin 3/13/73 on subcommittee substitute. H.R. 3298 - Committee on Rural Water and Sewer H.R. 3298 - Passed 3/1/73 Agriculture - Y - 297 ordered reported. N - 54 S. 14 (Kennedy Bill) Before Health Maintenance Organizations H.R. 4871 (Staggers & Devine) & Labor & Public Welfare H.R. 51 (Dr. Roy) Subcommittee hearings Committee concluded - Interstate and Foreign Commerce Committee S. 502 - Coming up Wed., Highway Act Amendments H.R. - Hearings to begin March 3/14/73 20 by Committee on Public Works. No bill number as yet. March 12, 1973

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    "ocrText": "These documents were scanned from Box R33 of the Gerald R. Ford Congressional Papers at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library.\nFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE\nMARCH 13, 1973\nOFFICE OF THE WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nPRESS CONFERENCE\nOF\nSENATOR HUGH SCOTT\nAND\nFORD\nCONGRESSMAN GERALD R. FORD\nGERALD\nLIBRARY\nTHE BRIEFING ROOM\n11:21 A.M. EST\nMR. WARREN: The President met with the Republican\nLeadership this morning, as you know. The meeting lasted\nfor more than 2-1/2 hours. Senator Scott and Congressman\nFord are here to report to you on that meeting, and I will\nturn this over to Senator Scott.\nSENATOR SCOTT: Ladies and gentlemen, there were\ntwo topics presented, one by Mr. Lynn on the general matter\nof housing and community development, and the other by several\nspokesmen from the Justice Department, Dean Snead, Mr. Santa-\nrelli and Mr. Peterson.\nThere will be a message coming up, which we believe\nwill come up this week, on anti-crime legislation. It will\ninclude at least four topics:\nThe new Law Enforcement Act, directed toward the\nimprovement of law enforcement, the reform of the Criminal\nCode, which will not impinge on State laws and will recodify\npresent laws and reform certain sanctions and penalties.\nThe Death Penalty Act, which will include a very\ncareful, narrow definition and provision for determination of\nguilt and suitability of the death penalty.\nThe Drug Traffic Act, which will include, in addi-\ntion to penalties applying to heroin and cocaine, particularly,\na definition of major and minor offenders, and there will be\nnew restrictions recommended on pre-trial release where there\nis a judicial determination of danger to society.\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: The other subject that was covered\nin some detail was the Better Communities Act. Secretary Lynn\nlaid out the basic points that will be included. He indi-\ncated the actual bill will be before the several committees\nsometime next week. He answered questions extensively as to\nthe transitional period, much the same as he did when he met\nwith the Governors and with the Mayors over the last several\nweeks.\nI believe that the Members of the House and Senate\nwho were there were convinced that under the proposal there\nis adequate funding during this period of transition, some-\nthing like $7.4 billion available in the seven categorical\ngrant programs that would be folded into the Better Communi-\nties Act. The real problem is getting the Congress to\nact sufficiently in time on the new program in order to help\nin this transitional period.\nMORE\n- 2 -\nSENATOR SCOTT: One other thing: The President and\nSecretary Lynn both made the point that the President's\ndomestic programs for this second Administration represents\nthe greatest investiture of power by the Federal Government\nwhich has yet been proposed, and that is an answer, I think,\nto the various charges of accessions of Federal power. No\ngreater return of responsibility to State and local govern-\nments has ever been proposed.\nFORD LIBRARY GERALD\nQ Mr. Ford, did Mr. Lynn answer for you a ques-\ntion he refused to answer for us here the other day, which is\nto say, what will happen if Congress does not vote this\nspecial revenue sharing, or whatever you call it now?\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: The title, Pete, is Better Com-\nmunities Act.\nQ Right.\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: The question was asked, if Con-\ngress doesn't act, what takes place? Well, under the exist-\ning law, he indicated there was about $7.4 billion available\nthat could be utilized until the Congress either passed the\nnew legislation or refused to.\nNow, the question was not asked \"if Congress doesn't\nact,\" but \"does act\" on the appropriation bill under the\nexisting law. I would hope that with the help of Mayors, with\nthe help of the Governors, who I think now are being con-\nvinced that this approach is the better one, we could get\nthe Congress to act, and I don't assume that the Congress\nwon't, after they have heard the testimony, act affirmatively\non a program that gives to the Governors, to the Mayors, and\nlocal officials a lot more authority and discretion.\nQ\nMr. Ford, all over the country cities have\nhad telegrams in the last week or 10 days telling them to stop\nall action on processed programs that were in the stage of\nbeing processed but got in under the deadline for public\nhousing for low-income people, and these cities are wonder-\ning what in the world to do. I thought that money was already\napproved. Why stop the program? It said something about\nirregularities and processing in the office. Did Lynn talk to\nyou about that?\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: He indicated that on all projects\nor programs where the application had been filed and some\naffirmative action had been taken, they would live up to the\ncommitments, and I think they will. I can't discuss the de-\ntails in each and every program. I am familiar with one or two\nin my own area, and by working with the regional office, as\nwell as the office down here, I think we have gotten fair\ntreatment in those specific projects that I am definitely\nfamiliar with.\nQ\nWhy did he send these telegrams to people all\nover the country if he is going to live up to it?\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: I can't answer that, because I\nhaven't seen the telegrams and I don't know the details in\nall the communities.\nMORE\n- 3 -\nQ What about in your own district? You men-\ntioned your own district.\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: In my own district we haven't had\nthis problem because of the cooperation at the regional and\nFORD LIBRARY\nat the Federal level.\nQ\nSenator Scott, did the question of counsel\nJohn Dean's appearance before the Senate Judiciary Committee\ncome up at all?\nSENATOR SCOTT: No, it was not one of the topics dis-\ncussed this morning.\nQ\nDo you think the President ought to withdraw\nMr. Gray's nomination?\nSENATOR SCOTT: No, I do not.\nQ Was there any indication this might happen?\nSENATOR SCOTT: No, there was not.\nQ Senator Scott, can you say what the current\nstatus of gun control legislation is in the Congress, and\nhave you any idea why it wasn't mentioned among the four\npoints that you mentioned?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Well, it is in the hands of the\nJudiciary Committee already, and various gun control bills\nare proposed. They will include, of course, the Bayh bill,\nand there will be bills by other Members, and the Judiciary\nCommittee has those under consideration. So what the Presi-\ndent has submitted isn't new legislation. This is already\nin existence, being considered, and as you know, both the\nmajority and minority parties have indicated they would like\naction expedited by the Judiciary Committee in the Senate,\nand I am sure it is true in the House.\nQ\nWas the opposition to sending up the crime\nbills raised this morning?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Opposition?\nQ Opposition to any point the President made\nin his speech?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Well, the President said there will\nbe people of good will who will differ on some of the points,\nand it is expected that there would not be complete agreement\non all of these measures. People have different opinions on\nthe death penalty, for example.\nThe proposal will be carefully tailored within narrow\nlimits so as not to run counter to the present Supreme Court\ndecision, on which you will recall nine separate opinions\nwere filed.\nI Senator, how would the new Law Enforcement\nAssistance Act which you said was discussed differ from the\npresent LEAA?\nMORE\n- 4 -\nGERALD FORD VIBRARY\nSENATOR SCOTT: It would provide some additional\nfunds, in the first place. In the second place, it would\ngive to the local communities, as I understand it -- I haven't\nseen the details greater discretion in the application of\ntheir funds, some wider options than they have now under\ngeneral revenue sharing. I do not have further details, be-\ncause it wasn't elaborated.\nI Mr. Ford, you mentioned that your real problem\nnow is to get Congress to act quickly in this period of\ntransition. Did you discuss with the White House anything\nabout the delay that Congress is having in getting a bill\nfrom the White House before it so it can see what it is acting on?\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: It was indicated, as I said a\nmoment ago, that the actual bill will be in the hands of the\nCongress within the next week. The message came up last week.\nThe legislation as drafted will be before the Banking and\nCurrency Committee sometime next week.\n0 Isn't that quite a long delay for the first\nof four bills?\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: I don't think there is any serious\ndelay. If the legislation is before the two committees next\nweek, we still have until June 30th before the end of the\nfiscal year to act on it, and I should think that Congress\ncould hold hearings and take action in a three-month period.\nSENATOR SCOTT: Evidently the majority doesn't think\nthere is any great hurry. We have so little business this week\nthat I believe the highway bill is the only thing pending.\nWe have been holding very short sessions, and the majority\nin both Houses seems to be concentrating simply on throwing\nmessages back to the President in the expectation that he\nwill veto them.\nBut I haven't seen much new or constructive legis-\nlation. In other words, the party in charge of legislation\ndoes not seem to be in a great rush.\nQ Senator, what do you think is going to happen\nto the Gray nomination if the Senate Judiciary Committee today\nvotes to call counsel Dean to testify and it is refused, as\nthe White House has indicated?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Then each Senator will make up his\nown mind on that. They meet this afternoon at 2:00 o'clock\nin my office. My own feeling about it is that the attempt\nto get the President to send his lawyer up there to discuss\nmatters which ought to be confidential and ought to be pro-\ntected, is one that should not appeal to Senators as unjust.\nI know if I had a lawyer, and were involved in a\nmatter, I wouldn't want my lawyer to be called before a Con-\ngressional committee. I could get called, but I wouldn't\nwant my lawyer to be called, because I might have said things\nconfidential to him like, for example, \"I did it,\" or \"I\ndidn't do it.\"\nQ\nYou didn't say what you think will happen to\nthe nomination.\nMORE\n- 5 -\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nSENATOR SCOTT: Helen, I think the nomination will\nbe confirmed even SO.\nQ\nAre you suggesting that is why the President\ndoesn't want to send Mr. Dean up?\nSENATOR SCOTT: No, I am saying the way I feel as a\nperson who had a lawyer. Anything I said to the lawyer\nwould be in confidence. It seems to me that all of you in\nthe press are quite rightly making the point that you are\nentitled to the protection of certain confidential informa-\ntion. Now I don't know why you don't want to extend that\nsame privilege to the President of the United States or to me or\nto yourselves and your lawyers. If this business of protec-\ntion of sources is important, it ought to be important to\nthe President.\nQ\nShould that same protection, Senator, have\nbeen given to the witnesses at the Committee to Reelect the\nPresident whose identity was revealed by the FBI?\nSENATOR SCOTT: I think it depends on whether or\nnot those people are protected under any Executive privilege.\nMost of them are not, the ones who were involved in that\ntrial. The trial has disposed of it.\n2 Doesn't every investigative agency require con-\nfidentiality of sources to do its job?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Well, I think investigating agen-\ncies ought to be protected in confidentiality of sources, and\nthe Executive ought to be protected, too.\nQ\nDo you think the FBI should have told Mr.\nDean of the names of those people who requested private inter-\nviews with them?\nSENATOR SCOTT: I don't know all of the circum-\nstances that surround that, and you had better ask somebody\nwho knows more of the facts.\nMR. WARREN: Let me interject just a moment, if I\nmay, here because a couple of questions, I think, are predi-\ncated on the story in the Washington Post this morning con-\ncerning Mrs. Judith Hoback; is that correct? Is that what\nyou are asking about?\n0\nYes.\nI\nNot on the story in the Washington Post, but\nquestions about her deposition, which was released by the\ncommittee.\nMR. WARREN: Okay. As I read the story this morn-\ning, and as I am sure all of you read it, it would have been\nimpossible for the FBI to tell John Dean about this in time\nfor John Dean to tell the Committee for the Reelection of the\nPresident to call her in 48 hours after the initial interview.\nThat was all in the story.\nNow, I can tell you this -- and I talked to John\nabout this at great length this morning. He had no informa-\ntion on Mrs. Hoback's private interview, as she pointed out\nin her affidavit.\nMORE\n- 6 -\nMr. Gray has testified that he began giving infor-\nmation to the Counsel to the President on July 21st. Her\nin terview was on July 18th. And as the story pointed out\nthis morning, she said 48 hours after that July 18th inter-\nview, the Committee for the Reelection of the President\nofficials called her in to discuss it. It was impossible\nGERALOR FORD VIBRARY\nfor that to come from John Dean, and it was spelled out in\nthe story, but the story didn't make that conclusion.\nNow, the July 21st date that the Acting Director\nwas referring to refers to that summary report that you\nare all familiar with, and has been released. If you will\ngo back and re-study that report, Mrs. Hoback's name is not\nmentioned in it.\nQ\nWhat about Mardian and other officials at\nthe committee having had the information from the FBI?\nMR. WARREN: I think if you will check Mr. Shumway,\nwho is still a spokesman for the Committee to Reelect the\nPresident, he will be able to answer that question for you.\nI am answering it from the standpoint of John Dean and the\nWhite House. There is nothing to the story.\nQ\nHave you found out just who the FBI told,\nthen, in order for the information to get back?\nMR. WARREN: I think if you check with Mr. Shumway --\nQ\nHe doesn't speak for the FBI.\nMR. WARREN: Nor do I. I can tell you that the FBI\ndid not tell John Dean, and John Dean did not tell the Com-\nmittee for the Reelection of the President.\nI\nDid the FBI tell Mr. Ehrlichman or anyone in\nthe White House?'\nMR. WARREN: There was no conversation with the FBI\non this matter.\nNow, I think I have imposed enough on the Senator\nand the Congressman, if you have any more questions for them.\nQ Senator, were any topics discussed on inter-\nnational affairs, like Secretary Shultz's visit to Moscow?\nSENATOR SCOTT: No. We were discussing only these\ntwo domestic topics today.\nQ\nSenator, was there any discussion of possible\ninclusion in the crime message of white collar crime, such as\nperhaps antitrust violations or political espionage?\nSENATOR SCOTT: I don't know that either political\nespionage or antitrust violations are necessarily white collar\nunless you mean that people who wear blue collars never\nviolate those laws, but I would say that they were not brought\nup in the context of this message. This message deals with\nfour topics, and certainly we didn't discuss the death penalty\nfor antitrust violations. I want to assure you we didn't.\n(Laughter)\nMORE\n- 7 -\nQ\nCan you tell us what areas the death penalty\nwould be used in?\nSENATOR SCOTT: We will have to wait for the message\nfor specifics, but it will cover only those areas where the\nFederal Government has jurisdiction. They would include cer-\ntain wartime offenses. They would include offenses under the\nGERALO FORD LIBRARY\nvarious assassination acts, protection of Federal personnel.\nThey would include hijacking in interstate commerce, kidnapping\nin interstate commerce, crimes committed on Federal territory,\nand that sort of thing.\nQ Senator, would the type of murders that were\ncommitted by Lt. Calley constitute a death penalty under this\nnew legislation?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Since that is a military question,\nand is handled by a military court martial, it would hardly\nbe covered under the civilian Criminal Code, as I am sure you\nknew when you asked the question.\nQ\nThis pre-trial release restriction, the fourth\nsubject, is that related to preventive detention that was tried\nin the District of Columbia two years ago?\nSENATOR SCOTT: I don't know whether you call it\npreventive detention. It relates to a finding of whether or\nnot the public safety is endangered by the release of a big-time\nheroin pusher, for example, as to whether or not that person\nwould endanger society; whether there is an ongoing operation\nbelieved to be in conduct, in course, where his release would\nenable him to continue pushing heroin while waiting for the\ntrial to come up. I think that is what is involved. It was\nnot explained in detail.\nQ\nIt was not as preventive detention was here,\nif a man might be presumed to commit a new crime?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Well, yes; you can see a parallel.\nThe phrase \"preventive detention\" wasn't used, Bob, but I\nthink you can see a parallel.\nQ\nWhy did you volunteer that the reform of the\nCriminal Code would not impinge on State laws? Is it not\ngoing to extend Federal jurisdiction over crimes that are now\nlargely considered State crimes?\nSENATOR SCOTT: I don't believe it is intended to\nat all. The revision of the code will not seek to enlarge\nthe jurisdiction of the Federal courts. It is designed to\ngo to the present laws, to codify them, look at penalties.\nSome penalties are grossly inconsistent. It will look into\nthat. It will look at sanctions and it will endeavor to reshuffle\nthe Criminal Code so as to make it more consistent with the\npractice before the courts and with the needs of the conduct\nof Federal criminal cases.\nCONGRESSMAN FORD: It was pointed out that out of all\ncrimes that come before the courts, the Federal Government has\nresponsibility in about 15 to 20 percent, and it was the aim\nof this new legislation to make it easier for the prosecutor\nin the courts to expedite the consideration of any of those\nwho are charged with a crime.\nMORE\n- 8 -\nThe Criminal Code hasn't been revised in a great\nmany years, and this effort is aimed at helping the courts,\nthe juries, judges, and the prosecutors so that the indivi-\ndual who is indicted will have speedier justice.\n&\nSenator, Newsweek magazine said you and the\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nCongressman were petitioning the President to see more\nRepublican Congressmen because there were complaints on the\nHill, and that you had brought the complaints to the Presi-\ndent's attention. We notice a lot more cars outside today.\nWas this an expanded meeting?\nSENATOR SCOTT: I don't accept the word \"complaints\".\nI think everybody wants to see the President all the time.\nIt is perfectly correct that Jerry and I had, over some period\nof time, indicated to the President that we would like to see\nincluded in meetings of this kind Senators and Congressmen\nwho otherwise will not see the operation of the leadership\nmeetings. The President fully agreed.\nThe only time we specifically discussed that point,\nhe agreed immediately. There were four Senators present and\nfour Members of the House present today, and I understand\nthat that practice is intended to be continued and I think\nit is a very good one.\nQ\nYou mean four additional?\nSENATOR SCOTT: Yes, four additional Senators and\nfour additional Congressmen.\nQ\nWere they committee chairmen?\nMR. WARREN: We will give you a list.\nSENATOR SCOTT: Jerry will give you a list. Not\nnecessarily. The thought is to include, among others, com-\nmittee chairmen, senior Representatives, and some of the\nfreshmen from time to time.\nQ\nIs that one of the reasons it took so long\nthis time?\nSENATOR SCOTT: No. They didn't ask too many ques-\ntions. They were free to ask them. It took longer because\nthose are two very interesting topics.\nQ\nYou seem very subdued today.\nSENATOR SCOTT: I am just tired, that is all. (Laughter)\nTHE PRESS: Thank you very much.\nEND\n(AT 11:45 A.M. EST)\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\n3/13/73\nRN introduction/greatent drostiture\nof power by Pres. of Congress in history\nof U.S\nResponsive Ant act\n6110mlhon\nSec Lynn - Better Community act -\nJuly 1, 1974 - substitute\nfor 7 categorical programs\n#2, 2, 3\nhold harmless\nBiLL - about a week\nTRANSITION -\n7.4 Whin unspent\n1.2 billion plus (3 monthe\nSpecifies - each city\n590 william 2ndel likes.\nwithin 90 days after act passed\n[Photocopied from Ford Scrapbooks,\nBoy 14, Notes on White House\nMeetings, 1973-74]\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\n2\nHousing - subardozed/in excess of\ncurrent F.Y.\n\"honon christing committments\"\nPublic housing / 4236,\n4 you - unbsidged more than in\nmm subsided - twice that m\n20 yrs\nprevious 20 yrs.\nRN - 15%t20% federal come front local. state +\nMessage / Death penalty\n2) Drug control (dangeroms drop)\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\n3\nDean Bread - Crime (4 Gills)\ni) Sav Enforcement -\n680 million to put memorace\nwith states + local\nmolification of LEAA\na) Reform of federal criminal ends\na) protection of state pensdiction\nAmprement at\nb) semplification of difentions\nc) reform I sanctions (penath)\n1-\nmore related to crime.\n3) death penalty - non\nflexile 4) Herom traffic act\ncapacious. genlty /\npre-tivel detention\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\n4\nCapital Premohment\nTreason, war-time sabatage, (no expronage death required)\nfederal meander\nthat official assasmation\nKedrapping He - packing\nn arcotics - Penalty /Hetrin/morphone structure (hard)\n1] Tero Then 4 Mands\n2) Major 10 to life\nHouness more or Life or Death Pleatly\nHIGHLIGHTS OF HOUSE ACTION, FEBRUARY 6, 1973 THROUGH MARCH 12, 1973\nTuesday, February 6, 1973\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nJOINT ECONOMIC REPORT\nThe House passed H. J. Res. 299 relating to the date for the submission\nof the report of the Joint Economic Committee on the President's Eco-\nnomic Report, clearing the measure for Senate action.\nWednesday, February 7, 1973\nRURAL ENVIRONMENT ASSISTANCE\nRULE\nBy a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 188, providing one hour\nof open debate.\nBy a record vote of 237 yeas to 150 nays, the House agreed to\nthe previous question. (GRF - Nay; Speaker - Not Voting)\nYea\nNay\nNot Voting\nTotal\nRep.\n29\n144\n19\n192\nDemo.\n208\n6\n25\n239\nTotal\n237\n150\n44\n431\nVacancies - 3\nPASSAGE\nBy a record vote of 251 yeas to 142 nays, the House passed H.R. 2107,\nto require the Secretary of Agriculture to carry out a rural environ-\nmental assistance program. (GRF - nay; Speaker - Not voting)\nYea\nNay\nNot Voting\nTotal\nRep.\n52\n122\n18\n192\nDemo.\n199\n20\n20\n239\nTotal\n251\n142\n38\n431\nRECOMMIT\nBy a voice vote, the House rejected a motion by Mr. Teague of\nCalifornia to recommit the bill to the Committee on Agriculture.\n(MORE)\n-2-\nWednesday, February 7, 1973 (continued)\nGERALD F.O.R.D LIBRARY\nRURAL ENVIRONMENT ASSISTANCE\nPrior to final passage of the bill, by a record teller vote of 176\nayes to 217 noes, the House rejected an amendment by Mr. Mizell\nthat sought to reduce funds in the bill by $85 million.\n(GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nTotal\nRep.\n151\n24\n17\n192\nDemo.\n25\n193\n21\n239\nTotal\n176\n217\n38\n431\nBy a record teller vote of 132 ayes to 260 noes, the House rejected\nan amendment by Mr. Findley that would restrict REAP payments to\nfarmers with an average annual net income from all sources during\nthe preceding 3 years of $10,000 or less. (GRF - yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nTotal\nRep.\n118\n57\n17\n192\nDemo.\n14\n203\n22\n239\nTotal\n132\n260\n39\n431\nLYNDON B. JOHNSON SPACE CENTER\nThe House passed, and cleared for the President S. J. Res. 37, to\ndesignate the Manned Spacecraft Center in Houston, Tex., as the\n\"Lyndon B. Johnson Space Center,\" in honor of the late President.\nThursday, February 8, 1973\nAMERICAN HISTORY MONTH\nThe House passed H.J. Res. 211, designating February of each year as\n\"American History Month. \"\nLINCOLN DAY RECESS\nHouse agreed to the amendments of the Senate to H. Con. Res. 105, pro-\nviding an adjournment of the House from Thursday, February 8, 1973,\nto Monday, February 19, 1973, clearing the measure.\nRAILWAY-LABOR DISPUTE\nHouse passed S.J. Res. 59, to extend the Railway Labor Act. Agreed to\nan amendment by Mr. Staggers that inserted certain House language in\nsection I.\n-3-\nMonday, February 19, 1973\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nWASHINGTON'S FAREWELL ADDRESS\nPursuant to a special order agreed to on February 7, 1973, the House\nheard the reading of George Washington's Farewell Address by Repre-\nsentative Robert W. Daniel, Jr.\nTuesday, February 20, 1973\nAMERICAN REVOLUTION BICENTENNIAL COMMISSION\n-- (SUSPENSION)\nBy a record vote of 286 yeas to 72 nays, with 1 voting \"present,\"\n(Thomson of Wis.), the House voted to suspend the rules and pass\nH.R. 3694, to amend the joint resolution establishing the American\nRevolution Bicentennial Commission, as amended. (GRF - Yea; Speaker -NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n127\n31\n33\n1\n192\nDemo.\n159\n41\n39\n0\n239\nTotal\n286\n72\n72\n1\n431\nWednesday, February 21, 1973\nCONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS\nBy a record vote of 311 yeas to 73 nays, the House passed H. J. Res. 345,\nmaking further continuing appropriations (foreign aid; Labor-HEW) for\nfiscal year 1973. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n121\n43\n28\n0\n192\nDemo.\n190\n30\n19\n0\n239\nTotal\n311\n73\n47\n0\n431\nThursday, February 22, 1973\nEMERGENCY FARM LOAN PROGRAM\nRULE\nBy a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 226, providing for one\nhour of open debate.\nPASSAGE\nBy a record vote of 269 yeas to 95 nays, the House passed H.R. 1975,\nto amend the emergency loan program under the Consolidated Farm\nand Rural Development Act.\n(MORE)\n-4-\nThursday, February 22, 1973 (cont'd)\nFORD LIBRARY & GERALD\nEMERGENCY FARM LOAN PROGRAM (cont'd)\nPASSAGE (repeat)\nBy a record vote of 269 yeas to 95 nays, the House passed H.R. 1975,\nto amend the emergency loan program under the Consolidated Farm\nand Rural Development Act. (GRF - nay; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n68\n93\n31\n0\n192\nDemo.\n201\n2\n36\n0\n239\n269\n95\n67\n0\n431\nPrior to final passage, by a record teller vote of 196 ayes to 160 noes,\nthe House agreed to an amendment by Mr. Bergland that allows eligible\napplicants in natural disaster areas designated by the Secretary of\nAgriculture to apply for 1 percent disaster loans 18 days after the\neffective date of this act. (GRF - no; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n19\n139\n34\n0\n192\nDemo.\n177\n21\n41\n0\n239\n196\n160\n75\n0\n431\nMonday, February 26, 1973\nNO LEGISLATIVE BUSINESS\nTuesday, February 27, 1973\nCONTINUING APPROPRIATIONS\nThe House disagreed to the amendments of the Senate to H. J. Res. 345,\nmaking further continuing appropriations for fiscal year 1973, and\nagreed to a conference asked by the Senate. Appointed as conferees:\nRepresentatives Mahon, Passman, Natcher, Flood, Hansen of Washington,\nAddabbo, Cederberg, Rhodes, Michel, and Shriver.\nINTEREST EQUALIZATION TAX\nRULE\nBy a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 197, providing two hours\nof open debate.\n(MORE)\n-5-\nTuesday, February 27, 1973 (continued)\nFORD & LIBRARY GERALD\nINTEREST EQUALIZATION TAX (cont'd)\nPASSAGE\nBy a record vote of 358 yeas to 23 nays, the House passed H.R. 3577,\nto provide an extension of the interest equalization tax.\n(GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n159\n11\n21\n0\n191\nDemo.\n199\n12\n29\n0\n240\n358\n23\n50\n0\n431\nWednesday, February 28, 1973\nCONTINUING APPROPRIATION\nThe House agreed to the conference report on H.J. Res. 345, making\nfurther continuing appropriations for fiscal year 1973. The House\nreceded and concurred in certain Senate amendments, clearing the\nmeasure for Senate action.\nSELECT COMMITTEE ON CRIME\nBy a record vote of 317 yeas to 75 nays, with 2 voting \"present,\"\nthe House agreed to H. Res. 256, creating a select committee to\ninvestigate all aspects of crime affecting the United States, until\nJune 30, 1973. (GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV) (Arends & Riegle voting \"present\")\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n108\n62\n19\n2\n191\nDemo.\n209\n13\n18\n0\n240\n317\n75\n37\n2\n431\nCOMMITTEE INVESTIGATIVE AUTHORIZATION\nPREVIOUS QUESTION\nBy a record vote of 204 yeas to 191 nays, with 1 voting \"present,\"\nthe House agreed to the previous question on H. Res. 18, Banking\nand Currency Committee travel authority. (Issue - Minority Staffing)\n(GRF -- Nay; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n0\n177\n14\n0\n191\nDemo.\n204\n14\n21\n1\n240\n204\n191\n35\n1\n431\n(MORE)\n-6-\nWednesday, February 28, 1973 (continued)\nCOMMITTEE ON THE DISTRICT OF COLUMBIA\nFORD & LIBRARY GERALD\nFAILED TO PASS\nBy a reocrd vote of 153 yeas to 234 nays, the House failed to agree\nto H. Res. 257, authorizing the Committee on the District of Columbia\nto conduct studies and investigations. (GRF - Nay; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n12\n162\n17\n0\n191\nDemo.\n141\n72\n27\n0\n240\n153\n234\n44\n0\n431\nThursday, March 1, 1973\nRURAL WATER AND SEWER GRANTS\nRULE\nBy a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 255, providing for one hour\nof open debate.\nPASSAGE\nBy a record vote of 297 yeas to 54 nays, the House passed H.R. 3298,\nto restore the rural water and sewer grant program under the Con-\nsolidated Farm and Rural Development Act. (GRF - NV; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n106\n48\n37\n0\n191\nDemo.\n191\n6\n43\n0\n240\n297\n54\n80\n0\n431\nMonday, March 5, 1973\nSUSPENSIONS (2 Bills)\nThe House voted to suspend the rules and pass the following:\nCHILD NUTRITION PROGRAMS\nBy a record vote of 352 yeas to 7 nays, the House passed H.R. 4278,\nto assure that Federal financial assistance to the child nutrition\nprograms is maintained at the level budgeted for fiscal year 1973.\n(GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n161\n7\n23\n0\n191\nDemo.\n191\n0\n49\n0\n240\n352\n7\n72\n0\n431\n(MORE)\n-7-\nMonday, March 5, 1973 (continued)\nFORD LIBRARY & GERALD\nSUSPENSIONS (continued)\nPOSTSECONDARY EDUCATION\nBy a record vote of 332 yeas to 29 nays, the House passed H. J. Res. 393,\nto extend the authorization of the National Commission on the Financing\nof Postsecondary Education and the period within which it must make\nits final report. (GRF -- Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n144\n24\n22\n0\n190\nDemo.\n188\n5\n48\n0\n241\n332\n29\n70\n0\n431\nWednesday, March 7, 1973\nOPEN COMMITTEE MEETINGS\nRULE\nBy a voice vote, the House adopted H. Res. 272, providing for one\nhour of open debate.\nThe previous question was ordered on the rule - minority staffing -\nby a record vote of 197 yeas to 196 nays with 1 voting \"present.\"\n(GRF - Nay; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n0\n179\n12\n0\n191\nDemo.\n197\n17\n25\n1\n240\n197\n196\n37\n1\n431\nPASSAGE\nBy a record vote of 370 yeas to 27 nays, the House agreed to H. Res. 259,\nto amend the Rules of the House of Representatives to strengthen the\nrequirements that committee proceedings be held in open session,\n(GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n172\n9\n10\n0\n191\nDemo.\n198\n18\n24\n0\n240\n370\n27\n34\n0\n431\n(MORE)\n-8-\nWednesday, March 7, 1973 (continued)\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nOPEN COMMITTEE MEETINGS (continued)\nPASSAGE (continued)\nPrior to final passage, by a record vote of 201 yeas to 198 nays,\nthe House agreed to an amendment by Mr. Stratton that authorizes\ndepartmental representatives to attend closed committee meetings\nif authorized by that committee (same amendment was agreed to in\nthe Committee of the Whole by a division vote of 73 yeas to 45 nays).\n(GRF - Yea; Speaker - NV)\nYes\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n135\n44\n12\n0\n191\nDemo.\n66\n154\n20\n0\n240\n201\n198\n32\n0\n431\nVOCATIONAL REHABILITATION AMENDMENTS\nRULE\nBy a voice vote the House adopted H. Res. 274, providing for one\nhour of open debate for the consideration of H.R. 17, Vocational\nRehabilitation Act Amendments.\nThursday, March 8, 1973\nVOCATIONAL REHABILITATION\nRULE\nBy a voice vote, on Wednesday, March 7, 1973, the House adopted\nH. Res. 274, providing for one hour of open debate.\nPASSAGE\nBy a record vote of 318 yeas to 57 nays, the House passed H.R. 17,\nVocational Rehabilitation Act of 1973. (GRF - Nay; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n118\n50\n23\n0\n191\nDemo.\n200\n7\n33\n0\n240\n318\n57\n56\n0\n431\nSubsequently, this passage was vacated, and a similar Senate-passed\nbill, S. 7, was passed in lieu after being amended to contain the\nlanguage of the House bill as passed.\n(MORE)\n-9-\nThursday, March 8, 1973 (continued)\nVOCATIONAL REHABILITATION (cont'd)\nFORD LIBRARY & GERALD\nPASSAGE (continued)\nPrior to final passage, by a record teller vote of 166 ayes to 213\nnoes, the House rejected an amendment by Mr. Landgrebe to the com-\nmittee amendment in the nature of a substitute which sought to\nauthorize $600 million for fiscal year 1973, $630 million for\nfiscal year 1974, and $650 million for fiscal year 1975 for the\ncontinuation of programs authorized under the Vocational Rehabili-\ntation Act.\n(GRF - Ave; Speaker - NV)\nYea\nNay\nNV\nP\nTotal\nRep.\n126\n45\n20\n0\n191\nDemo.\n40\n168\n33\n0\n241\n166\n213\n53\n0\n432\nMonday, March 12, 1973\nDISTRICT DAY (No Bills)\nPROGRAM AHEAD\nTuesday, March 13, 1973\nH.R. 71 - Older Americans Act Amendments\n(OPEN RULE, ONE HOUR OF DEBATE)\nWednesday, March 14, 1973, and Balance of Week\nS. 583 - Rules of Evidence for U.S. Courts\n(SUBJECT TO A RULE BEING GRANTED)\nH.R. 2246 - Public Works & Economic Development Act\n(SUBJECT TO A RULE BEING GRANTED)\n# # #\nCONGRESSIONAL STATUS OF VETO-BAIT BILLS\nGLRALD FORD LIBRARY\nSENATE\nBILLS\nHOUSE\nS. 50 - Passed 2/20/73\nOlder Americans Act\nH.R. 71 - Coming up Tuesday\nY-82\n3/13/73\nN-9\nS.\nResearch on Aging\nH.R. 65 - Public Hearings scheduled\nfor March 16 by Comm. on\nInterstate & Foreign Commerce\nS. 467 - Pending before\nPublic Works & EDA Amendments\nH.R. 2246 - On Whip Notice for Wed.\nPublic Works\n3/14/73 or bal. of week.\nCommittee\nSubject to a rule.\nS. 263 - Pending before\nAmendments to Mining & Mineral Policy\nH.R. 5079 - (Saylor) - Pending before\nInterior Committee\nInterior Committee\nS. 38 - Passed 2/5/73\nAirport Development\nH.R. 4082 - Committee on Interstate\nY-65\n& Foreign Commerce begin\nN-15\nhearings 3/14/73\nS. 39 - Passed 2/21/73\nAnti-Hijacking\nH.R. 3858 - Hearings concluded by\nY-89\nCommittee on Interstate\n& Foreign Commerce.\nS. 606 - Passed 2/1/73\nFlood Control\nH.R. 4904 & H.R. 4905 - Committee on\nY-67\nPublic Works. Briefing by\nN-14\nGen. Clark on 3/8/73.\nHearings scheduled for\n3/20,21,22.\nS. 49 - Passed 3/6/73\nNational Cemetery Act\nH.R. 2828 - Pending before Committee\nY-85\non Veterans Affairs.\nN-4\nS. 59 - Passed 3/6/73\nVeterans Health Care\nH.R. 2900 - Pending before Committee\nY-86\non Veterans Affairs\nN-2\n-2-\nGERALD FORD LIBRARY\nSENATE\nBILLS\nHOUSE\nS. 7 - Passed 2/28/73\nVocational Rehabilitation\nH.R. 17 - Passed 3/8/73\nY-86\nY - 318\nN-2\nN - 57\n(Landgrebe Substitute: Y-166; N-213)\nH.R. 2107 - Passed 3/1/73\nREAP\nH.R. 2107 - Passed 2/7/73\nY-71\nY - 251\nN-10\nN - 142\nS. 394 - Passed 2/21/73\nREA Extension\nH.R. 2276 - Committee on Agriculture\nY-69\nheld hearings; met in\nN-20\nexecutive session 3/6/73;\nadditional hearings sched-\nuled to begin 3/13/73 on\nsubcommittee substitute.\nH.R. 3298 - Committee on\nRural Water and Sewer\nH.R. 3298 - Passed 3/1/73\nAgriculture -\nY - 297\nordered reported.\nN - 54\nS. 14 (Kennedy Bill) Before\nHealth Maintenance Organizations\nH.R. 4871 (Staggers & Devine) &\nLabor & Public Welfare\nH.R. 51 (Dr. Roy) Subcommittee hearings\nCommittee\nconcluded - Interstate and\nForeign Commerce Committee\nS. 502 - Coming up Wed.,\nHighway Act Amendments\nH.R.\n- Hearings to begin March\n3/14/73\n20 by Committee on Public\nWorks. No bill number\nas yet.\nMarch 12, 1973"
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