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Digitized from Box 9 of The Ron Nessen File at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
This Copy For
NEWS CONFERENCE
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AT THE WHITE HOUSE
WITH RON NESSEN
AT 12:08 P.M. EDT
MAY 27, 1975
TUESDAY
MR. NESSEN: I want to move right along so we
can get to this 12:45 Rose Garden ceremony.
The President came into the office at 7:30 this
morning and held his usual staff meetings first thing.
His other meetings today include right now
at noon a regular meeting with Vice President Rockefeller,
which he has periodically.
At 12:30, Lt. Commander Steven Todd will go
in to see the President. I think some of you know
Steve. He is coming in so the President can bid him
farewell and express his appreciation for Commander Todd's
service as the Naval Aide to the President.
Commander Todd is being reassigned by the
Navy after two years of service here at the White
House. The President will present Commander Todd
with a Legion of Merit as he leaves the White House
to go to other Navy duties.
Q
Do you have the name of his successor?
MR. NESSEN: There is not going to be an
exact successor. As you know, the new Military
Assistant to the President, Captain Kollmorgan, is a
Navy man. There will be a Navy man of lower rank
assigned as an aide.
At 12:45, the President is going out to the Rose
Garden to participate in the swearing in of Lowell
W. Perry, of Detroit, as a Member and Chairman of
the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. I think
you will remember we announced the nomination on May
12th, and the Senate confirmed him on May 21st. There
is open coverage of that. We will try and wind up by
then.
I think we already have biographic information
available in the Press Office for you to pick up.
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At 2:15, the President is meeting in the Cabinet
Room with Richard Velde, the Administrator of the Law
Enforcement Assistance Administration, also other
staff members from the LEAA and also from the White
House.
The purpose of this is to discuss future pro-
grams and plans of the LEAA.
Under the law, the authorization for the LEAA
runs out at the end of this fiscal year and under the
law, the President is required to prepare future plans
to carry the agency on through the future years.
At 8:30 this evening, the President will make
a statement in the Oval Office in regard to decisions
on his energy program. This, I understand, will be broad-
cast on the three television networks. I think we are in
good shape on an advance text and I hope to have it
for you in the area of 4 o'clock, or thereabouts. There
will also be a fact sheet with the advance text.
Then, tomorrow, the President leaves for Europe,
you know, first thing in the morning, and he will have
remarks briefly at Andrews Air Force Base. Before
taking off at approximately 7:40, he will speak there.
We will also have an advance text of those remarks
available this afternoon.
The text of his statement tonight will
be embargoed for 8:30 and the advance for tomorrow
morning, I think, we will put it out for 6:00 a.m.
Q
Are a lot of Cabinet officers, and so forth,
going to be there?
MR. NESSEN: No. It is a very low-key departure.
Nobody has been invited.
Q
He is just going to make a farewell state-
ment?
MR. NESSEN: Yes, for those gathered there,
families of people going along, a few people, but no
big ceremony.
Q
What time will that be ready?
MR. NESSEN: Sometime later this afternoon,
I think.
Q
What are the chances for getting the 7:40
statement for release in the a.m.?
MR. NESSEN: No, I don't think we can do a.m.'s.
That is 6:00 tonight. I think we will make it 6:00 a.m.
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I think you have a little packet of material
that we have handed out. You have the announcement of
the appointment of Caroline Freeland, of Bethesda,
Maryland, and David Childs, of Washington, D. C., to
be members of the National Capital Planning Commission.
You have the appointment of Rogers C. B.
Morton to be a member of the National Commission
on Productivity and Work Quality.
Also, you have the appointment of four persons
to the United Services Organization, Inc.
Also, you have the intention to nominate
Wallace Bennett, of Salt Lake City, Utah, to be
a member of the Board of Directors of the Overseas
Private Investment Corporation.
And you also have the transmittal to the
Congress of the Annual Report of the Administration
on Aging; and the transmittal to the Congress of
the Final Report pursuant to the Jackson-Nunn
amendment. That is an amendment that has to do
with European countries helping to defray expenses
of American troops in Europe.
Also, the President is accepting the resignation
of the Honorable John D. J. Moore as Ambassador to
Ireland, effective June 30. We have an exchange of
letters available in the Press Office which we will
post after this briefing.
Essentially, the Ambassador is quitting
for personal reasons.
Now, about the trip. First of all, those
of you who are on Air Force One pool tomorrow, I think
you know who you are, if you would, turn in your pass-
ports to Joy this afternoon, please.
Now, I think you have basically the logistics
detail that you need for the trip, the baggage and plane
times. I will run over it one more time. Bags in
Room 87 of the EOB until 6:00 tonight, or tomorrow
morning by 5:45 for the TWA flight and 6:00 for the
Pan Am flight, at Andrews.
If you leave your bags here tonight, then you
should check in at Andrews at 6:00 in the morning for
the TWA flight and 6:15 for the Pan Am flight.
As I said, for the Air Force One pool, give
your passports to Joy today and then check in at 7:15 at
Andrews tomorrow on the assumption you have left your
bags here today.
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Q
I didn't quite understand the Pan Am part.
Bags and check-in for Pan Am at 6:00 a.m.?
MR. NESSEN: 6:00 a.m. for the bags, 6:15
if you are coming without bags.
Now, we will have the detailed press schedule
for the first stop on the trip, which is Brussels, later
this afternoon. If you want to, I can run through the
highlights for you now.
As you know, the President will leave
the White House South Lawn at 7:25, no ceremony. He
will depart Andrews at 7:50 after making the brief
remarks there, and also no ceremony.
The arrival time in Brussels is 8:00 p.m.,
Brussels time. As you know, that is 3:00 in the after-
noon, Washington time.
Q
That is the President's arrival, or the
press?
MR. NESSEN: Yes, the President and Mrs. Ford.
Q
3:00 p.m. tomorrow?
MR. NESSEN: 3:00 p.m. Washington time.
The King and Queen will be there for an arrival ceremony.
There will be brief remarks.
Q
Do you have their names, by chance?
MR. NESSEN: King Baudouin, the King of the
Belgians, and Queen Fabiola.
There will be an arrival ceremony, as I say, with
brief remarks. Then they will all go to the Royal
Palace for a courtesy call on the King and Queen and
at the same time, the President will have a meeting
there with the Belgian Prime Minister, Leo Tindemans,
and the Belgian Foreign Minister, Renaat Vanelsande.
As you know, Dr. Kissinger is in Paris today.
He will come over to Brussels tomorrow and be there for
the arrival and, of course, will sit in on the meetings
with the Belgian Prime Minister and Foreign Minister.
That is about it for the events tomorrow.
Q
Will he be meeting with Giscard the first
day?
MR. NESSEN: I am just giving you what we
have firm, Walt.
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On Thursday, the NATO meetings begin at 4:30
in the afternoon.
Q
All these are local times?
MR. NESSEN: 4:30 Brussels time, right.
On Thursday, the NATO meetings don't begin
until 4:30 in the afternoon, Brussels time. Until the
time he goes to the NATO headquarters, the President
will hold meetings with European leaders at his residence.
The President will be staying while he is in
Brussels at the U.S. Embassy residence, and that is
normally occupied by the Ambassador and Mrs. Leonard
K. Firestone.
Q
Do you know how many meetings with leaders
in Brussels, private meetings?
MR. NESSEN: I am going to give you some
right now. The President will have a working break-
fast with Prime Minister Thorn, of Luxemborg.
After the breakfast with the Prime Minister
of Luxemborg, he will meet in the morning with the
Prime Minister of Greece, Mr. Karamanlis, and the
Prime Minister of Turkey, Demirel.
Q
Not together?
MR. NESSEN: No, separate meetings.
Q
Do you have first names?
MR. NESSEN: I'don't have first names on here.
Then, the President will have a working lunch
with Chancellor -- we are talking about Thursday now --
working lunch with Chancellor Schmidt of West Germany, of
the Federal Republic of West Germany.
Then, in the afternoon, you will have the first
NATO session. The President, before he goes to the NATO
session, will meet with Prime Minister Jorgensen, of
Denmark, and Prime Minister Goncalves, of Portugal.
Now, at the moment, those are all the meetings
I have to give you. We hope to have more for you tomorrow
and Thursday.
Q
Can we have their full names on the bible,
if possible, when we get it?
Q
I have heard he is going to meet with
headsof State of the NATO Alliance except Iceland and
the Netherlands, with whom he recently met, and Aldo
Moro, of Italy, with whom he will presumably meet
in Rome. Is that the case?
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MR. NESSEN: I think what I will do is just
give them to you as their plans are firmed up, Walt.
As I say, we will be giving more information
as we go along. I think it is fair to say there will
be other meetings with other foreign leaders when he is
there, but I just don't have the firm people, places
and times on those.
Q
When will he make his first formal
remarks?
MR. NESSEN: I think it is good to be aware of
the fact that the NATO meeting he will attend twice,
Thursday beginning at 4:30 and then pretty much all day
on Friday. Those are closed meetings with a very small
delegation from each country, no press. He will speak
there but the speech is a private speech.
Q
Why is that?
MR. NESSEN: It is just the way NATO does business.
This is a working NATO meeting. Now, we have
laid on a very full schedule of briefings for you
several times a day and you will be able to keep up fully
with what is going on.
Q
Ron, can you say definitely whether Presi-
dent Ford will meet privately apart from the dinner
with the King -- with President Giscard d'Estaing?
There have been reports from Paris that he will not.
MR. NESSEN: I think if you attended Secretary
Kissinger's briefing on the trip on Saturday, he said
the President looks forward to meeting the French
President.
Q
I know, but there have been reports from
Paris to the contrary.
MR. NESSEN: I don't have anything further to
give you on any further meetings.
Q
Informationally, will reporters from
European papers be able to get in on those briefings
the same as the reporters from the White House?
MR. NESSEN: It all depends. The way we put
things together, some of the briefings will be done,
especially on Thursday when these foreign leaders
are coming to his residence, we might give a fill on the
meetings at the pool there at the residence, and also
phone it down to the Press Office. Other times, we
will have big, full briefings at the press center.
It will be done in a variety of ways.
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Q
So, our people overseas will get the news?
MR. NESSEN: Yes, if we don't have a formal
briefing at the press center, it will be given to the
pools and posted at the press center.
Q
When will the President first make his
formal remarks to the NATO group?
MR. NESSEN: You are talking about other than
the arrival statement?
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Q
I am talking about the plenary session
of the NATO heads of Government.
MR. NESSEN: I've got you. The President
goes to the first NATO meeting at 4:30. There are
various ceremonial arrivals and so forth. The
opening session is open at 4:30, but the President
will not speak at that.
The remarks will be by Karamanlis, who is the
honorary President of this session, and by Prime
Minister Tindemans of Belgium, who is obviously the
host, and NATO Secretary General Luns. That: is the
opening ceremony. The President does not speak.
Then the actual working session begins in
another room at 5:20, and the President will speak at
5:50. We are talking about Thursday now. That will
be his first formal speech, Peter, but as I say, it
will be closed. It is expected to run about 20
minutes, according to this schedule.
As you know, later that night there will be
a dinner by the King, and it is also not expected
that the President will take part in the toasts at that
dinner.
Q
Is there coverage of that dinner?
MR. NESSEN: Official photo. The King goes
into the dinner and there is no pool coverage in that
dinner.
There is press pool coverage of the arrival,
and then it says "official photo coverage." That is
official photographers, but no press coverage of
the dinner.
Q
Will you be present when the President
addresses NATO at 5:50 on Thursday?
MR. NESSEN: I have to see if I am one of
those limited members. I don't think SO. It really
is a very small working group.
Q
Who else will be there from the American
delegation?
MR. NESSEN: Secretary Kissinger, Ambassador
Bruce, Don Rumsfeld, Mr. Sonnenfeldt and General
Scowcroft are the American delegation to that working
session.
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Q
The answer is you will not be present?
MR. NESSEN: That appears to be the case at
the moment.
Q
Ron, do you know why there is no press
coverage of that dinner?
MR. NESSEN: As you know, that is a dinner
given by the King, and the President is one of the
invited guests. I would think you wouldhave to take
it up with the Palace in Brussels.
Q
Ron, we can assume the President in his
opening remarks at the closed meeting, that those
will be prepared remarks?
MR. NESSEN: Oh, yes, certainly SO.
Q
Ron, are you through now?
MR. NESSEN: I can't think of anything else
to give out here.
Q
Shall we get through Thursday and all
of Friday?
MR. NESSEN: I will run through all of this.
You will have this late in the afternoon.
The NATO meeting begins early on Friday.
The President will arrive at the NATO headquarters
at 9:56 in the morning, and there will be a long
morning session.
There will be a long morning session, then
there will be a lunch beginning at 1 o'clock, o' and that
will end at 2:15. The sessions will resume again at
2:20 and will go on until 4:35.
The President will go back to his residence.
The President has no scheduled events that evening.
Q
These Friday sessions are closed working
sessions, as well?
MR. NESSEN: Yes, they are. That will take
you up through Friday night.
Q
Ron, are youthrough now?
MR. NESSEN: Yes, ma'am.
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Q
Has the President decided whether he
is going to give any relief for taking those refugees
off Phu Kuoc Island in Vietnam, and has he considered
an answer to Senator Helms on that and is he
considering the fact that 200 of those children are
supposed to be half American?
MR. NESSEN: I am not familiar with Senator
Helms --
Q
He is supposed to have sent a letter
here Friday, and.the President was supposed to answer
today, this morning. Anyway, the situation has been
kicking around here for days.
MR. NESSEN: I know, and I have an answer for
you.
I don't, as I say, know about Senator Helms'
letter.
Q
Anyway, is he: going to try to get the
refugees off or not?
MR. NESSEN: Phu Quoc Island is part of the
Vietnamese territory. The evacuation of Americans
and Vietnamese has been completed. We picked up,
in addition to the helicopter and airplane evacuation,
thousands of Vietnamese who sailed out to ships and
also who flew out on their own planes and an effort is
being made to resettle those refugees.
But in answer to your specific question, Sarah,
the people who are on that island are subject to the
control of the South Vietnamese territories.
Q
Ron, may I ask a question relative to
the bilateral --
MR. NESSEN: May I say those who want to go
to the Rose Garden with cameras and sound equipment
should leave now and follow Bill out through this door
here.
Q
Does that mean that the 200 she is
referring to will remain on the island, that there is
no way to get them out?
MR. NESSEN: I don't know how many are on the
island. As I say, the evacuation is completed, and the
island is under the control of the South Vietnamese
authority.
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Q
Can you please give us some idea of the
nature of the discussions the President will have in
his bilateral head-to-head meetings with the various
- leaders of the Alliance and particularly his meeting
with the Belgium Prime Minister Tindemans? Will the
F-16 be on that agenda for that meeting?
MR. NESSEN: I have not seen the agenda for
these private meetings, Walt. Obviously, each will
deal with the questions that interest that country.
When I get through briefing myself thoroughly on each
of the meetings, I will let you know.
Q
I would like to know specifically on
the F-16 on Belgium.
MR. NESSEN: All right.
Q
What is the President doing about the
pending amnesty applications that have not been
signed and so on? Why is it so delayed?
MR. NESSEN: At this moment, there are none
here at the White House awaiting the President's
action. Eighty cases were signed yesterday by the
President.
Q
They were not announced, were they?
MR. NESSEN: No, they were not.
Q
What was the question?
MR. NESSEN: Fran was wondering, she had
some feeling that there were a whole bunch of amnesty
applications or rulings here awaiting signature, and
the fact is there aren't any here at the moment
awaiting signature. Eighty were signed yesterday,
and there are no more here.
Q
Can you explain the delay in getting
them signed before yesterday? They have been here
for a couple of months.
MR. NESSEN: I don't know that they have been
here for a couple of months.
Q
How long were they here?
MR. NESSEN: I don't know, but I don't think
they were here a couple of. months. I think all of you
know that there is some need for additional help by
the Clemency Board, and there are lawyers being trans-
ferred over there for duty to help clean up the
applications.
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Q
How many, and where from?
MR. NESSEN: The latest figures I have here
are from May 7. The Board had considered 511 cases,
the Clemency Board. We have not updated this. Just
before I came out here I checked with Phil Buchen's
office and he says he has no cases on his desk at
the moment.
Q
How many has the President acted on?
MR. NESSEN: That is what Bill is checking.
Those figures were as of May 7, and I think you would
rather have updated figures.
Q
Did the President get some recommendations
from the Clemency Council on actions on discharges?
MR. NESSEN: I don't know what you mean by
actions on discharges. Do you mean upgrading discharges
and so forth?
Q
Yes, some recommendations from the Board
over there which would be a little extra work, a
little extra thing, not just in the category you have
given us.
MR. NESSEN: Bill is checking all the figures.
I have a breakdown, and he wants to update those.
Q
That won't be in the figures. Did he
get a recommendation from the Board? I understand he
did. I mean, from the Clemency lawyers that he should
take further action on discharges of veterans?
MR. NESSEN: I have not heard that, but I
will check it.
Q
Ron, is the President informing any
Congressional leaders in advance of his speech tonight
on energy?
MR. NESSEN: Yes, he is, beginning about 5
o'clock.
Q
Personally by phone?
MR. NESSEN: Some by phone and some people
in the legislative office will do the others.
Q
Can you tell us who and which ones
he has talked to personally?
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MR. NESSEN: I don't have a list.
Q
Will you give us a list?
MR. NESSEN: I will try.
Q
Ron, some weeks ago Mayor McClory asked
the President to reconsider opening up the amnesty
program. Was any consideration given to that, and did
that proceed anywhere?
MR. NESSEN: It has not.
Q
Ron, also on the President's speech
tonight, he has left little doubt that he is going
to announce the second dollar increase and in his
conversation Friday with the European correspondents,
he virtually said as much, but he didn't say anything
about announcing anything further on his decontrol
plan.
Could you give us further guidance on whether
that will be included in the speech?
MR. NESSEN: I think the speech will answer
all your questions or both your questions.
Q
Ron, the Associated Press carried a
story over the weekend quoting some Marines who took
part in the landing on Koh Tang. They said even. before
they left Thailand they knew the crew of the MAYAGUEZ
was not on the island of Koh Tang. If this was the case --
MR. NESSEN: It is not the case, so you
might as well stop there.
Q
Can you tell me how it is you know it
is not the case?
MR. NESSEN: The case was that nobody was
sure where the crew was. There was no evidence that
they had been moved anywhere, no firm evidence other
than one pilot who thought he saw some American faces
on the deck of the one ship that got into Kompong Som.
Other than that, there was no firm evidence
of where they were, but there was no firm evidence they
left either the ship or the island.
Q
Were radio sweeps carried out of the
island and, if so, by which branch of the service?
MR. NESSEN: I don't know the answer to that.
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Q
Can you find out?
MR. NESSEN: I will try.
Q
Ron, I thought on Friday we had a pretty
clear statement from the President as to where he stood
on the negotiations in the Middle East.
MR. NESSEN: Yes.
Q
Yet, on Saturday after Secretary Kissinger
held his briefing, it seemed to me that the thing
became very cloudy again. As the President stated to
the five European correspondents, as I understand it,
he was going to have statements to make the U.S.
policy after he sees the Israeli and Egyptian leaders.
But, according to what the Secretary said, he
is going to tell Sadat, "Well, we will have to make a
decision and then we will take it up with the Congress
and then we will go on further," without any clear
notion as to what is in it.
Furthermore, the Secretary spoke about the
need of a definition of defensible borders for Israel.
This has been in the UN Resolution 242 for almost more
than six years.
Why is there a need now to go about defining
it?
MR. NESSEN: Is that the question, why is there
a need to define it?
Q
Are there any second thoughts by the Admin-
istration as to what the President said on Friday, or
does the President's statement stand?
MR. NESSEN: The President's statement stands.
Q
All right, how about these other things?
MR. NESSEN: I think Secretary Kissinger stated
rather clearly on the question of defensible borders he
was talking about definitions. I don't think that I
can take it much further than that.
Q
Is the Rogers plan dead? The Rogers
plan spoke about insubstantial changes. Is that dead?
MR. NESSEN: I think you should probably check
with the State Department for that degree of detail.
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Q
Does the President back the Rogers plan,
or does he not back the Rogers plan? Where is it?
MR. NESSEN: I can't help you on that.
Q
Has the President seen or talked to the
Secretary of Interior-designate Hathaway since he was
confirmed by the Senate Interior Committee on May 1?
MR. NESSEN: I am not sure. I will have to
check. I can't keep up with all his phone calls.
Q
Why do we need Rogers C. B. Morton to
be on the National Commission on Productivity and
Work Quality? This is about the fourth appointment he
has had this year from the President. Don't we have
any other people in the United States that can work?
MR. NESSEN: Sarah, as the Secretary of Commerce,
dealing with problems of business and so forth, it
seemed like an appropriate appointment.
Q
You know he won't have time to do it. He
will just name some little flunkie to do it.
MR. NESSEN: I didn't know that.
Q
Does the President now have any cases
of pardon before him?
MR. NESSEN: Do you mean you are not talking
about Vietnam-related cases?
Q Nonrelated.
MR. NESSEN: I would have to check with the
legal counsel's office. I don't know.
Q
Can you tell us why he pardoned Mr. Beck?
MR. NESSEN: The Justice Department made the
recommendation and gave the reasons,
Q
What were the reasons? They were not made
public.
MR. NESSEN: I thought the Justice Department
did make those public. I thought I read that in the
paper.
Q
Surely you know what the President
thought and whether he had some views on it, too, as he
did it. Surely he didn't do it just as a public --
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MR. NESSEN: Hardly, Sarah. You know what
the procedure for pardons is.
Q
I know what it is, but I also know it
is up to the President to have the last word. Sometimes
he takes away or adds views on the subject.
MR. NESSEN: He didn't add or take away.
Q
Do you have anything else on what the
President intends to discuss with the Pope?
MR. NESSEN: That portion of the schedule is
not ready yet, and when it is and I have had a chance
to brief myself, I will be readyto answer your questions.
Q
When will that be ready? Will you have a
description of what the President intends or is it just
a courtesy call?
MR. NESSEN: I believe on Saturday, Les--I
don't know if you attended Secretary Kissinger's briefing--
but the purpose of Secretary Kissinger's briefing as it
was announced was to provide all the information to
people who are interested in the European trip and details
of each stop on the trip. He did cover in that --
you missed that, didn't you?
Q
I am sorry. I had to be out of town.
MR. NESSEN: He did mention there were two
subjects that he would talk to the Pope about. One was
the Pope's interest in humanitarian efforts around the
world, and the second subject of discussion with the
Pope would be the Pope's continuing interest and
statements and efforts in the interest of world peace
around the world.
I don't know whether that is satisfactory, but
that is what Secretary Kissinger outlined.
Q
It is. Thank you.
Q
Did Phil Buchen play any role in the
apparent Justice Department decision not to defend
portions of the Federal Election Campaign Act from
Constitutional challenge?
MR. NESSEN: Why don't you check with us
after the briefing? I know we looked into that.
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One technical question, Ron. Will the
texts of the statements being made by the President in
the meetings with the foreign leaders be made available
here pretty quickly after they are delivered?
MR. NESSEN: There will be some delay, but
they will be available eventually at the White House.
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