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MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
SEGRET/NODIS/XGDS
DECLASSIFIED
E.O. 12958 (as amended) SEC 3.3
MR # 10-113
state rev 3/10/04 DOEltr 4/1/10
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
By dal NARA, Date 5/14/10
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State and
Assistant to the President for National Security
Affairs
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant to
the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Friday, January 31, 1975
9:28 - 10:25 a. m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
Kissinger: Callaghan was upset by what I told him on the Middle East.
I said either they want to settle or they are setting me up. He said what
is the quid pro quo for withdrawal? I said Egypt and Syria are separated;
the moderate Arabs are strengthened; U.S. influence is strong; and
Geneva convenes not in a spirit of frustration. The alternative is a
stalemate which you would be asked to finance.
President: I am not so sure of that.
Kissinger: I fear they may be setting me up. I mentioned this to Dinitz
and he said he would report it. That was four days ago.
President: Don't they know what to do?
Kissinger: I fear they may plan to stonewall. How they got 21 days
supply I don't know. It couldn't have happened under Laird. I think I
have to tell them that if they stonewall, they don't get a penny from us.
President: You can do it. This is bigger than any election issue.
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
UNITED
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Kissinger: The Jewish Community is now saying, "Let's go to Geneva. "
That is the prescription of a stalemate. The Jewish groups have
managed to prevent the nuclear power plant for Egypt. So now the
French are getting it -- we lose the business and eight years of political
leverage.
President: I think we have to tell Israel on your trip that I can't approve
anything without further diplomatic movement.
Kissinger: I am going on two trips. The first trip should be low-key.
I will get the maximum concessions from Sadat but I won't give them to
Israel
President: In the meeting with Wilson, should I say I agree with what
you told Callaghan on Israeli intransigence? Don't the Brits see the
problem?
Kissinger: They have ties to Israel and they are all screwed up.
Callaghan is a nice guy but the most incompetent Foreign Minister I
have ever seen. But it is good to have them slightly pro-Israel, to
balance off the French. But they are the kookiest on the PLO -- they
say it is a moral issue.
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