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    "ocrText": "File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library\nMEMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nSECRET/NODIS/XGDS\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958 (as amended) SEC 3.3\nMR # 10-119, #20\nMEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION\nJFK records.rev; state ets 7/29/10\nBy dal NARA, Date 9/1/10\nPARTICIPANTS:\nPresident Ford\nDr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State\nand Assistant to the President for\nNational Security Affairs\nLt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant\nto the President for National Security Affairs\nDATE AND TIME:\nSaturday, April 12, 1975\n11:45 a. m.\nPLACE:\nOval Office\nKissinger: The press at David Brinkley's dinner last night was saying\nthat if you went to Dubuque, the reception for you with that message\n[to Rabin] would be great. They asked about your mood, and were you\ntrying to separate yourself. I said I thought you were at peace with\nyourself.\nBraden said he asked Colby if he could deny there had been any\nassassinations or plans for them. He said, no. Colby must go.\nPresident: I agree. It is a matter of who and when. I want to go into\nthe country.\nCouldn't I weave into the bicentennial something about our foreign\npolicy?\nKissinger: I have been thinking after last night; I don't have to give a\nmajor speech each time. Just talk for 20 minutes.\nPresident: That's right. The impact is you saying it. The thrust is\nwe have to be strong.\nPERALO\nCLASSIFIED BY HENRY A. KISSINGER\nEXEMPT FROM GENERAL DECLASSIFICATION\nSCHEDULE OF EXECUTIVE ORDER 11652\nSECRET/NODIS/XGDS\nEXEMPTION CATEGORY 5 (b) (1, 3)\nAUTOMATICALLY DECLASSIFIED ON Imp. to det.\nSECRET/NODIS/XGDS\n2.\nKissinger: We can take sections from your [State of the World] speech\nand expand it. The people last night think within a year there will be\nan enormous backlash. This Congress is really McGovern's, because\nof Watergate. Osborne thought your speech was great and the pardon\nwas one of the most courageous things you have done. The press is\nout of touch with the country.\nPresident: The local press. Not out in the country.\nKissinger: The press is out of touch. Now that the Israelis have taken\nus on this year this year rather than next we maybe have the\nopportunity. We maybe should go for all the marbles.\nPresident: Any reaction from Greece and Turkey to my speech?\nKissinger: The Turks are delighted. The Greeks are too, but they\nwanted the money under the table.\nPresident: We haven't heard anything from Brezhnev.\nKissinger: Hamilton said he would introduce something.\nI told Javits if he is a Jewish spokesman he had to talk to me as\nan American and what is in it for the United States.\nIsrael has done something again I would like to protest about.\nI told Allon about your talk with Schmidt, to show them the concern\nabout Portugal. Now it is in the Israeli papers. I told Allon about\nthem going to the Germans to contact the Europeans. They [the\nIsraelis] in doing it this way make it look as if they are going behind\nour backs.\nEgypt is afraid of an attack. I think we should tell them if it\nhappens we will formally dissociate.\nPresident: Should we tell the Israelis that?\nFORD\nKissinger: When Allon is here.\nGERALD\nThree out of five speeches now on foreign policy would be good.\nRallying the people should be the theme. We should stress the last\npart of the speech, but not avoid Vietnam either.\nPresident: Is the Vice President going to go?\nKissinger: He doesn't want to.\nSEGRET/NODIS/XGDS\nP/R 12 apr 75\nBrinkley\n&\nThe pills last might was that if\nyour went to C useption for you\nspecial and la print, 6 w/chat may would\nbe grent, They afted about your wood +\nand your tying G separate yourself. said\nftht yen innent prace / yourself\nBraden said he arter 6MG if he we cand claim\nor plano for He sail no.\ngo.\nP\ndagell. It a matter of whorahin. I wont of go\ninto C emety.\nContaint d whant in to hereinment pensiting\nabout me FP.\nK\n& here thinking efter last might, 8 dnit hunt given\nmajor sprech lach Time. Just Talk paca\nminutes.\nP\nThats right. 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