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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
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MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State
and Assistant to the President
for National Security Affairs
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant
to the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Monday, April 14, 1975
9:32 - 11:00 a. m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
Kissinger: I am going to give a speech at ASNE. The theme is that all
our foreign policy setbacks are related to our domestic situation. Allon
said at the airport there were some differences with the U.S. Government
but not with the American people. I say the President is determined to
master these problems, but we have to stop wailing. We have to stop the
so-called debate between security and morality. A nation's commitments
stem from its actions, not its legal documents. I'll say that we won't
forget who supplied the arms which tore up the Paris Accords.
You have seen some reports of the reaction -- I will give you the
whole summary.
As a general line.
We are like DeGaulle -- he created the
impression that France was a strong country just by being prickly. This
will run against the liberals who will push for humanitarianism -- that is
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the modern liberal cop-out. I tried to placate the liberals for the first
five years. I don't try any more. I say it is after the Rhineland and we
are heading for war. Herb Schlosser said he would put me on Barbara
Walters for four mornings in a row and advertise it.
DISCLASSIFIED
The President: I think that would be great.
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[Mahon calls to discuss the supplemental alternatives. Speaker
Albert gets on the line too. ]
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Kissinger: My speech will be ten percent tougher than yours.
The President: It burns me up the comments about disagreements between
us. The only thing I worry about is that people will say this is what you
wanted to say but couldn't
Kissinger: [Outlines his speech again.]
The President: That sounds like it meshes with mine very well.
Kissinger: I will give you a draft tomorrow. It does have some tough
sentences about the Jews and about the Soviets.
On the Soviets. I have thought about that communication I showed
you. They might think they are in a post-Czechoslovakia period and want
to calm things down, or they may want to really continue detente. Simon
slobbered all over them -- that was a disaster.
I want to tell Dobrynin I won't go to Moscow. The American people
won't understand with the situation in Vietnam. I will meet with Gromyko
in Europe, but only if the summit date is announced. But we don't really
need a summit now. You could sign the Vladivostok agreement next spring
as easy as this fall.
The President: How is that coming?
Kissinger: It will never be concluded in Geneva. The bureaucracy
on both sides is dragging its feet. It can be signed whenever you and
Br ezhnev meet.
On Rota, we can't afford a secret agreement. I would propose to
handle it in the Spanish negotiations.
It is important that the Arabs get the right impression from you.
We will give a rundown but then you should be tough and turn to Keating
and say he must treat them like a friendly power, not an arm of the
Hadassah.. Tell Eilts we don't need more speeches like Sadat made.
Tell them we are 1 ning toward an overall approach. We are determined
to push, and we will not fail when we take it up again.
FORD
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