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File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library
NATIONAL ARCHIVES AND RECORDS ADMINISTRATION
Presidential Libraries Withdrawal Sheet
WITHDRAWAL ID 018009
REASON FOR WITHDRAWAL
National security restriction
TYPE OF MATERIAL
Memorandum of Conversation
TITLE
Ford, Kissinger
CREATION DATE
06/10/1975
VOLUME
2 pages
COLLECTION/SERIES/FOLDER ID
031400548
COLLECTION TITLE
National Security Adviser. Memoranda of
Conversations
BOX NUMBER
12
FOLDER TITLE
June 10, 1975 - Ford, Kissinger
DATE WITHDRAWN
05/28/2004
WITHDRAWING ARCHIVIST
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MEMORANDUM
THE WHITE HOUSE
WASHINGTON
SECRET/NODIS/XGDS
MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION
PARTICIPANTS:
President Ford
Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State and
Assistant to the President for National Security
Affairs
Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant
to the President for National Security Affairs
DATE AND TIME:
Tuesday, June 10, 1975
9:37 - 10:20 a.m.
PLACE:
The Oval Office
President: I got that memo on Brezhnev's health. It is disturbing.
Do we know about his possible replacements?
Kissinger: The paper mentioned Shelepin and Andropov. Shelepin is
gone and it would be a first if Andropov, head of the KGB, were to
make it.
DECLASSIFIED with portions exempt
AUTHORITY RAC deview 9/21/05; state visit 3/9/04
[There was some discussion of the Malenkov-Beria days.]
NLF, DATE 4/17/07
They obviously count on having a CSCE summit in July. Dobrynin
says that Brezhnev wants to meet with you there. That would be a good
time to make progress on SALT. I can do a little beforehand, but not
much.
We got a letter from Demirel. [He reads it. Once they have said
this, they are not bluffing.
President: We ought to talk to the House leadership the last of this week,
or early next. Get some language, and something on refugees.
BY Cabl
CLASSIFIED BY
HENRY A. KISSINGER
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President: How do you assess the Marcos visit there?
Kissinger: He feels he can no longer appear as an American stooge.
He seriously doubts our ability to stay the course and has decided
China is the wave of the future. China won't hurt us over the near
term. They won't push us from Thailand or the Philippines. After
3-5 years, there may be hell to pay. In ten years if the President and
Secretary of State have sense, we will probably be lining up with the
Soviet Union against the Chinese.
Schlesinger is releasing the pictures of Berbera today. It is a
mug's game to score these little victories against the Soviets.
President: What is the reason?
Kissinger: Diego Garcia. But we have to start talking with one issue.
We are going to humiliate the Soviet Union enough in the Middle East
that we just shouldn't overload the circuit.
President: Do you want a directive?
Kissinger: Let me think about it. I tried to make peace with him but I
fear he took it as a sign of weakness.
President: Why does Sadat say "after our victory in the October war? "
Kissinger: He is an Arab. And at the end of the first week, without
our intervention, the Israelis would have run out of ammunition.
President: Can we do something for John Lodge -- some commission
or something?
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Presidential Libraries Withdrawal Sheet
WITHDRAWAL ID 018010
REASON FOR WITHDRAWAL
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TYPE OF MATERIAL
Note
DESCRIPTION
Brent Scowcroft's handwritten notes for
memcon
CREATION DATE
06/10/1975
VOLUME
2 pages
COLLECTION/SERIES/FOLDER ID
031400548
COLLECTION TITLE
National Security Adviser. Memoranda of
Conversations
BOX NUMBER
12
FOLDER TITLE
June 10, 1975 - Ford, Kissinger
DATE WITHDRAWN
05/28/2004
WITHDRAWING ARCHIVIST
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