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Ed MEMORANDUM THE WHITE HOUSE WASHINGTON CONFIDENTIAL DECLASSIFIED E.O. 12958 (as amended) SEC 3.3 MR # MR 10-024, #2 MEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION state rev 3/9/04; CIA en 4/1/10 By dal NARA, Date 5/5/10 PARTICIPANTS: President Ford Dr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State and Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs Congressman Benjamin S. Rosenthal (D-N.Y.) Congressman Lee H. Hamilton (R-Indiana) Congressman Charles W. Whalen, Jr. (R-Ohio) Congressman Dante B. Fascell (D-Florida) Congressman John Brademas (D-Indiana) Congressman Paul S. Sarbanes (D-Maryland) Lt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant to the President for National Security Affairs DATE AND TIME: Thursday, June 19, 1975 8:50 - 10:22 a.m. PLACE: The Oval Office The White House President: This meeting is even more appropriate than when we spoke last week, Ben. There have been some developments since then. There is a glimmer of hope -- the Clerides/Denktash talks have gone on, even though there has been no progress yet. I met with Karamanlis and Demirel at Brussels. Both of them talked tough and they both realize something needs to be done. They had a good meeting together. The Senate vote was close but it was good. Something needs to be done. But before we get into a discussion, I would like Secretary Kissinger to bring you up to date on the discussions and on the internal situation in Turkey. I see Karamanlis nominated Zatsos as President. BERALDA CONFIDENTIAL FOR SECRET XGDS (3) CLASSIFIED BY HENRY A. KISSINGER Downysted 5/20/04 Lab File scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library CONFIDENTIAL 2. Kissinger: Let me explain where the situation is and what the Turkish domestic situation is. Let me start in February, whatever our views about what happened before. I met Bitsios in February. He said he would accept a bizonal solution if we could work out the territorial arrangements. Karamanlis wanted a quick solution, to minimize the impact on the Greek domestic situation. I then went on to Turkey, which had a caretaker government. They said they had no power to do anything. But I met with every Turkish leader, urging them to put forth specific proposals to resolve the situation and prevent the development of complex international situation making it more difficult to resolve. They all agreed that they wouldn't discuss it while the embargo was on. They didn't promise to move after- wards, but they certainly would not move before; it would look like they were yielding to pressure. The Greek side has been very conciliatory we couldn't ask for a better position than they are now willing to take. Demirel then came in, which complicated the situation. Demirel couldn't accept the deal we had been working on, for domestic reasons. If Ecevit were in office, I am convinced we would now have a solution. I went to the CENTO meeting in May not for CENTO but to talk to the Turkish leaders. Ecevit won't take a position until the coalition does. He basically wants new elections which he feels certain as do most of the Parliament that he would win. He took Cyprus and he can blame the coalition for giving it away. Demirel was Prime Minister when Turkey didn't move in '67. The President had good talks with Demirel. But Demirel is looking for some way to manage it so he doesn't get beaten to death domestically. [He read from the message from Demirel of June 9, at Tab A] This was followed by an intelligence report we received that our NATO bases would be closed Monday. It is the non-NATO ones that we are most concerned about. They are of major importance to us. We called in the Ambassador and we got a 30-day extension. Demirel wants to be able to show he stood up to the U.S., or to get the embargo lifted so he can show he got something back Ecevit had lost. We expect Turkey to make progress in the Cyprus negotiation regardless of the embargo. I think the negotiation is now mostly a matter of Greek and Turkish domestic politics. The range of the issues is reasonably clear. It is not clear whether either side can make the re- quired movement. CONFIDENTIAL CONFID ENTIAL 3. The Turks spent the first 20 minutes with the President talking about the arms embargo. I know there is a difference of opinion about our strategy. But I assure you we had no other motive than to bring Turkish concessions. Even if the embargo is lifted, progress on Cyprus would be tough. But if the embargo is lifted, they would know the Presi- dent's prestige is involved and they couldn't sit. There is still a gap, but it is not unbridgeable. There are only two issues: the nature of the central government and the territorial division. There is also the issue of refugees. [He describes refugee issues. ] If they can break the logjam, the issues aren't too difficult. But getting started is the problem. If Greece made a move and it was turned down by Turkey, it would be disastrous for them. If Demirel moves in a way which looks weak, the coalition will break up. Brent, will you discuss our installations. General Scowcroft: [Described the bilateral installations. ] Fascell: If we move, won't we have Greek riots, etc. ? Kissinger: The Greeks asked the President in Brussels to warn against military action, especially in connection with the Aegean. We did so. We are preparing military assistance to Greece but we shouldn't link them. Fascell: But you think there would be no eruption? Kissinger: Papandreou and Mavros would complain bitterly. But we are convinced Karamanlis wants to get this behind him. If the embargo was lifted and there was no progress, there would be trouble. Whalen: Let's get right down to cases. We are concerned and want to do something. Our way is the Hamilton Amendment which passed the Senate 41 - 40. Let's face it. You have won some victories which have made the freshmen bitter. We need to resolve it in a way to try to avoid a bitter confrontation. Maybe you have some ideas. The President: What do you all think? Brademas: I want to thank you for inviting us, Mr. President. One idea I would like to put forth we have mentioned it earlier, but maybe we could modify it some. This idea is to employ the waiver authority. We have checked the legality with the GAO. We would want some private assurance that some action was forthcoming acceptable to both sides; then CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL 4. the President could waive the $50 million without Turkey publicly having to say anything. To be sure that there is no reneging on the agreement, you could assure them there would be another $50 million coming using both FY 75 and 76 -- that is more than the grant we are now giving. If you announced a reassessment of US-Turkish relations at the same time, it would be a gentle reminder that we don't like ultimatums thrown at us. Another idea is to get NATO more involved to soften the US-Turkish aspects of it. As you know, we here are NATO supporters. We voted against NATO cuts. And I tell the Turks I want aid to Turkey. I have 450 voting Greeks. I don't need it politically. We know there will be no settlement as good as the Greeks had before the crisis. President: We discussed the waiver policy before. The lawyers can argue whether the waiver is legal. I think the GAO argument is question- able and I as a lawyer think it is probably not right. Suppose I waive and we either don't get a settlement or it isn't satisfactory. Then I am out on a limb. I don't think that is a satisfactory situation. I talked with Demirel for an hour. He pointed out that there are arms paid for that he can't get shipped and is even having to pay for storage. They just don't understand this and the waiver won't answer it. Brademas: We are trying to find a way out. I agree, let's forget last August. But it is virtually impossible for Congress to turn around without something happening. We must save face and I think it is fundamentally wrong. Sure it causes you some problems. But we have the national interest to consider. I am offended by the Turkish ultimatums. I disagree with your waiver interpretation. I agree with Kissinger that the sides aren't that far apart. If we could get them $50 million, get some move- ment, another $50 million, more movement and we can end the whole thing in 8 - 12 weeks. In the face of the Turkish ultimatum, even if we tried to just lift the embargo, we would be hung in effigy. President: I have spoken with some of the leaders -- Tip, for example. Kissinger has talked to Burton. You know the Democratic freshman better than I. I have gotten to know some of them, including Hubbard he seems to want to help. It might be worth a try for Kissinger and me to talk to them. I am not sure they understand the nature of the problem. Whalen: I understand what you both are saying. I see you out on a limb where you could have a problem. What if we applauded your use of the waiver. That might help. CONFIDENTIAL BERALD CONFIDENTIAL 5. Sarbanes: I think a starting premise has to be an understanding of some accommodation by the Turks. If we can get that, we can orchestrate to save their face. I don't think we can approach the problem from the view of just getting the decision changed. I think it was correct. If we just change, we would be in the position of sustaining aggression. If we know certain things will be done, there are arrangements which can be made commercial sales, military sales, grants, etc. President: Let me follow up on that point. There are differences in the kinds of military deliveries and they can be legally treated differently -- especially when they have bought and paid for things. Let me throw this out. Is there a possibility of exempting sales? Sarbanes: There is a fundamental premise though, and that is that movement by us without moves by them. Kissinger: What bugs the Turks is not grant aid - that is within our sovereign rights. It is the sales, where they can't get things they have bought. So the waiver gets at what bothers them most. On the negotiations, there isn't any minor movement on which we could report. It will be done all together, or not at all. If the Turks decide to move, it will be done in six weeks -- but I can't say when they will decide to move. If Ecevit were in office, we could get a settlement quickly. Brademas: That is not Clerides' view. He thinks turning the arms on lose us all our leverage. He thinks that sticking fast will put such a bite on Turkish military that they will force a movement. There is another group in the House which feels more strongly from a different view -- Rangel. Hamilton: I think there is a trend in the House that the ban should come off. Many who voted for the ban are looking for reasons to change and the trick is to come up with something to help them to change. Can't we explore something other than full restoral? One quirk of the law is that cutoffs are in perpetuity. Maybe we could put on a time limit. Maybe we could permit enough aid to let Turkey fulfill its NATO commitment. I don't think right now you would get the votes to lift the ban. CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL 6. President: Have you got some language? Hamilton: We have been working on some ideas. President: Why don't we have our people work with you. I can see the need for a parliamentary maneuver to avoid a head-on collision. The situation is bound to deteriorate otherwise -- and it is not only Cyprus. Demirel did mention the Aegean and the Greek buildup on the islands. They are just off the Turkish coast. He didn't threaten, but it obviously is a concern. If this continues to unravel, with the Middle East situation nearby, we could have a holocaust. I can't sit here and do nothing. Brademas: But we can't just turn the arms back on without some actions by the Turks. That leaves us in an indefensible legal and moral situation. That would put the aid bill in jeopardy if we turned any part of it on without any progress from Turkey. We would in that case have to modify our position on the aid bill. President: We have to be realistic about the situation in Greece and Turkey. For either to take a public position would create an impossible situation. Brademas: We agree. That is why we want to do it privately -- to let them save face. Sarbanes: I would like to broaden the discussion to the nature of U.S. foreign policy and providing arms and for what purpose. Aggression has been committed and we can't back off that principle. People may differ on that principle, and the Secretary and I part company on it. But just as we can divide categories of aid, we can divide categories of Turkish response. The other concern is Greece. Kissinger seems to assume Greece will always be there. Kissinger: No. Sarbanes: I don't think so and if we move without any justification, I think there would be an explosion. I know it could even be involved with Yugoslavia, with Tito's departure and a possible crisis involving Greece. So I think we must move in a way which does not antagonize Greece. President: Can you differentiate between sales and grants? CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL 7. Sarbanes: Yes, but I can't turn around on any part of it without anything on which to rest it. Because of the critical nature of our relationship to Greece. We want to restore relations with both Greece and Turkey. I think Turkey has more than it needs. I think it is in Turkey's interests to resolve this. Kissinger: I think most of them want a resolution -- maybe even Makarios. We can't get Turkish progress by 15 July. We also can't get it if there is a linkage with aid. But the President told Demirel that if the President sticks his neck out and they don't act, they are then up against the President also. Brademas: Then what? Hamilton: There is another aid bill. Brademas: We have kept quiet. But it hasn't helped getting Turkish movement when the Executive keeps making statements trying to get Congress to turn around. Whalen: The language is "substantial progress. 11 I think there has been some. Kissinger: We can't in good conscience say there has been. Whalen: Would you rule out John's suggestion on the waiver? President: It is such a marginal question legally. It puts me out on a limb. I am not saying you would cut it off, but let's be realistic. Statements by you on the floor would be helpful. Taking Lee's idea of making it affirmative action in support of NATO and sales versus grants, let's see what we can do. Rosenthal: Findley has a proposal to give NATO $100 million and let them do it. But the bases problems aren't NATO, but a bilateral problem. Brademas: Would this proposal. you are discussing be something different from a waiver? President: Right. Brademas: But the key part of a waiver was a private assurance from Turkey. If that would be included, I would look at it with an open mind. CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL 8. President: I haven't explored this with Caramanlis and Demirel. Brademas: I think that would be crucial. Sarbanes: Could we keep a couple of tracks open -- the waiver for example? We could also phase down what progress there is in line with what kinds of arms are released. We have tended to look at all this in total packages. Maybe we need to separate things out. Whalen: I have concerns of time. It will take time. Second, what would we do about private assurances? If we start to debate on the floor Sarbanes: There have been peripheral ones -- to Waldheim - - for example. Straightening out some lines, maybe. Can we put together enough peripheral items to justify sales? Maybe. If we can work together Congress is helping Greece as against the Turks and the Executive is helping Turkey as against Greece. President: I will reexamine the waiver, although I have grace reservations. If you could look at Lee's ideas Kissinger: I don't exclude that we could put something together like Paul says. The best place to do it is at the Greek-Turkish talks at the end of July. Rosenthal: We also can't appear to give in to Turkish threats. That would be a sign to others like Portugal. Sarbanes: Rather than crumble, maybe we should say we should reevaluate our policy. President: But if I use a waiver, doesn't that look like buckling? Whalen: That is right. We would have to help the President. Rosenthal: We are all in this together. Let's explore it again. Sarbanes: The other should be looked at, too. That puts us in the same boat. President: We have not only the deadline of the Karamanlis-Demirel talks. There is also the August recess, the end of the fiscal year, etc. There are lots of deadlines. FOUD CONFIDENTIAL CONFIDENTIAL 9. Brademas: If we would put this together I can't think of anything better for the country right now. Fascell: I want to table something here about delivering the material already paid for. There is nothing more basic than the sanctity of a contract. We have got to consider resolving that. CONFIDENTIAL 1b ) A FORD & GERALD W/t Commin 3 OF STATE Gin Engenthing Sconerift Department of State UNITED in STATES OF AMERICA TELEGRAM CONF IDENT IAL NOD670 S PAGE 01 ANKARA 04487 0916542 42 ACTION NODS-00 INFO OCT-01 ISO-00 1001 W 103224 JOZ 0 0915052 TUN 75 FM AMEMBASSY ANKAKA TO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9517 DECLASSIFIED E.O. 12958, Sec. 3.5 C N I +) E N I A L ANKARA 4487 State Dept. Guidelines, State lui w 3/9/04 By We NARA, Date 5/20/04 NODIS DEPARTMENT PASS ATHENS AND NICOSIA AS DESIRED 5 FOR THE SECRETARY FROM CHARGE E.O. 11652: XGDS-2 TAGS: PINT, PrUR, TU, Cr. GR SUBJ: MEETING WITH FUNMIN CAGLAYANGIL REF: STATE 133607 1. I MFT WITH FUNMIN CAGLAYANGIL LATE AFTERNOON JUNE 9 TO DELIVER YOUR MESSAGES(REFTEL). AIS DIRECTEUR DE CABINET AKBEL WAS ONLY OTHER PERSON PRESENT. AFTER HEARING YOUR MESSAGE, FONMIN PUNDERED A BIT AND THEN DICTATED A REPLY IN TURKISH 10 AKDEL who THEREUPON ORALLY TRANSLATED IT INTO ENGLISH FOR MF AT DICTATION SPEED. 2. BEGIN UWAL NESSAGE:S"I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE SECRETARY (IF STATE VERY MUCH, PARTICULARLY FOR nIS MESSAGE. OUR MEMORIES OF OUR MEETING IN GROSSELS WITH PRESIDENT FORD AND IME SECRETARY ARE ALSO VERY FRECIOUS. 1 WOULD LIKE S TO EXPRESS MY TEEP THANKS AND APPRECIATION UN BEHALF OF MY PRIME MINISTER AS WELLSAS MYSELF FUR THE PRESIDENT'S AND SECRETARY KISSINGER'S CONSTRUCTIVE ATTITUDE. "THE DIALUGUE BETWEEN DEMIREL AND CARAMANLIS HAS, IN OUR VIEW AS "ELL, UTTN LUNSTRUCTIVE AND EFFECTIVE. GERALD ? LIBRARY FORD IT HAS DEPENED EACH SILE'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE UTHER AND NOT TO BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE IAL AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY DIPARTMENT OF STATE Department of State UNITED AMERICA TELEGRAM STATES OF CONF PAGE 02 ANKARA 04487 0916542 PRACTICAL OUTCOMES HAVE ALSO EMERGED. IT WAS DECIDED THAT APPRECIATION OF THIS PROGRESS SHOULD ot RECORDED AND EFFORTS SHOULD EE EXERTED TO REACH SOLUTIONS THROUGH MEETINGS AT MINISTERIAL LEVELS. 502 "THE ISSUE OF TERRITORY SHOULD CONSTITUTE THAT PART OF THE QUESTION WHICH HAS TO BE DEALT WITH AT THE VERY FINAL STAGE. THE SOLUTION OF OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES, BESIDES THAT of TERRITORY, THROUGH MUTUAL AGREEMENT, WOULD ENHANCE THE PUSSIMILITIES OF REACHING AN AGREEMENT UN THE ISSUE Or TERRITURY. I InINK THAT OUR GREEK COLLEAGUES HAVE ALSO UNDERSTOOD AND ADOPTED THIS VIEW UF OURS. "THERE ARE TWO SUBJECTS ON WHICH 1 HAVE TO SPEAK CLEARLY NUn. 1 HOPE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND ME. AS LONG AS THE ARMS EMOARGO IS IN EFFECT, THERE 15 NOT REPEAT NO1 MUCH WE CAN 00 ON THE ISSUE OF TERRITORY. AN INAGE TO THE EFFECT FORD THAT TURKEY HDS FINALLY GIVEN IN 10 THIS THREAT, OR THE ? EXPLOITATION OF such A CLAIM, IN INTERNAL PULITICS, COULD IRREPARABLY DAMAGE TURKISH-AMERICAN RELATIONS. GERALO LIBRARY "SECONOLY, UNLESS THERE IS AMELIORATION IN THE EMBARGO DECISION, THE PUSSIDILITIES TU PREVENT COUNTER ACTION WILL NOn REPEAT NOW SE EXHAUSTED. I HOPE THAT DEVELUPMENTS UN THIS SUBJECT WILL NCT BE CONSIDERED AS A SURPRISE. AS nE HAVE STATED To YOU EFORE, AE ARE DOING ALL WE CAN TO REMAIN MODERATE. END OF URAL MESSAGE. 3. FONMIN ASKED IF I hAD ANY QUESTIONS ON FOREGOING. I ASKED -1M TO CARAND A BIT ON THE "OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES" HE MENTIONED IN HIS THIRD PARAGRAPH Or HIS ORAL MESSAGE. HE REPLIED THAT IF AGREEMENT COOLD DE HEALHED ON THE PLACKS ur The FUTURE FEDERAL GUVERNMENT, THIS KOULD HE HELPFUL. At MENTIUNED IN THIS CONNECTION SUCH ANLILLARY ISSUES as PROVISION FOR A UNIFIED ECONOMY FOR THE ISLAND, DIPLORATIC REPRESENTATION AUROAD, A SINGLE MENAL CODE, AND THE DEFENSE OF The FEDERAL STATE. UP 10 NUA, CONTINUED CAULAYANGIL, THE GAEEKS SAY THEY HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF A FEDERAL STATE. LAGLAYANGIL FELT THIS STILL SHOULD NUT PREVENT DISCUSSION AS TO nun AS"PURELY HYPOTHETICAL" FEDERAL STATE COULD BE CREATED. THE GREEKS COULD RESERVE THEIR POSITION ONF IDENTIAL NOT TO BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY OF STATE Department of State UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TELEGRAM CONFIDENTIAL PAGE n3. ANKARA 24467 0916542 ON THE PRINCIPLE WHILE SUCH A DISCUSSION WERE GOING FURWARD. CAGLAYANGIL CONCLUDED BY SAYING THAT ANY PROGRESS ON ISSUES SUCH AS THESE WOULD DE PACILITATING FACTORS ON THE PROBLEMS UF REFUGEES AND TERRITORY. IN PRESENT CIRCUM- STANCES, AS SUON AS THE Two SIDES BEGIN TO DISCUSS THESE TWO LATTER ISSUES, THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY BLUCKED. THERE IS NO WAY TO MAKE PROGRESS IN THIS FASHION, ME DECLARED. BENGUS NOTE: NOT PASSED ATHENS AND NICOSIA BY OC/T. 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    "ocrText": "Ed\nMEMORANDUM\nTHE WHITE HOUSE\nWASHINGTON\nCONFIDENTIAL\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958 (as amended) SEC 3.3\nMR # MR 10-024, #2\nMEMORANDUM OF CONVERSATION\nstate rev 3/9/04; CIA en 4/1/10\nBy dal NARA, Date 5/5/10\nPARTICIPANTS:\nPresident Ford\nDr. Henry A. Kissinger, Secretary of State and\nAssistant to the President for National Security\nAffairs\nCongressman Benjamin S. Rosenthal (D-N.Y.)\nCongressman Lee H. Hamilton (R-Indiana)\nCongressman Charles W. Whalen, Jr. (R-Ohio)\nCongressman Dante B. Fascell (D-Florida)\nCongressman John Brademas (D-Indiana)\nCongressman Paul S. Sarbanes (D-Maryland)\nLt. General Brent Scowcroft, Deputy Assistant\nto the President for National Security Affairs\nDATE AND TIME:\nThursday, June 19, 1975\n8:50 - 10:22 a.m.\nPLACE:\nThe Oval Office\nThe White House\nPresident: This meeting is even more appropriate than when we spoke\nlast week, Ben. There have been some developments since then. There\nis a glimmer of hope -- the Clerides/Denktash talks have gone on, even\nthough there has been no progress yet.\nI met with Karamanlis and Demirel at Brussels. Both of them talked\ntough and they both realize something needs to be done. They had a good\nmeeting together.\nThe Senate vote was close but it was good. Something needs to be\ndone. But before we get into a discussion, I would like Secretary Kissinger\nto bring you up to date on the discussions and on the internal situation in\nTurkey.\nI see Karamanlis nominated Zatsos as President.\nBERALDA\nCONFIDENTIAL\nFOR SECRET XGDS (3)\nCLASSIFIED BY HENRY A. KISSINGER\nDownysted 5/20/04 Lab\nFile scanned from the National Security Adviser's Memoranda of Conversation Collection at the Gerald R. Ford Presidential Library\nCONFIDENTIAL\n2.\nKissinger: Let me explain where the situation is and what the Turkish\ndomestic situation is. Let me start in February, whatever our views\nabout what happened before.\nI met Bitsios in February. He said he would accept a bizonal\nsolution if we could work out the territorial arrangements. Karamanlis\nwanted a quick solution, to minimize the impact on the Greek domestic\nsituation. I then went on to Turkey, which had a caretaker government.\nThey said they had no power to do anything. But I met with every\nTurkish leader, urging them to put forth specific proposals to resolve the\nsituation and prevent the development of complex international situation\nmaking it more difficult to resolve. They all agreed that they wouldn't\ndiscuss it while the embargo was on. They didn't promise to move after-\nwards, but they certainly would not move before; it would look like they\nwere yielding to pressure. The Greek side has been very conciliatory\nwe couldn't ask for a better position than they are now willing to take.\nDemirel then came in, which complicated the situation. Demirel\ncouldn't accept the deal we had been working on, for domestic reasons.\nIf Ecevit were in office, I am convinced we would now have a solution.\nI went to the CENTO meeting in May not for CENTO but to talk to the\nTurkish leaders. Ecevit won't take a position until the coalition does.\nHe basically wants new elections which he feels certain as do most of\nthe Parliament that he would win. He took Cyprus and he can blame the\ncoalition for giving it away. Demirel was Prime Minister when Turkey\ndidn't move in '67.\nThe President had good talks with Demirel. But Demirel is looking\nfor some way to manage it so he doesn't get beaten to death domestically.\n[He read from the message from Demirel of June 9, at Tab A]\nThis was followed by an intelligence report we received that our\nNATO bases would be closed Monday. It is the non-NATO ones that we are\nmost concerned about. They are of major importance to us. We called in\nthe Ambassador and we got a 30-day extension.\nDemirel wants to be able to show he stood up to the U.S., or to get\nthe embargo lifted so he can show he got something back Ecevit had lost.\nWe expect Turkey to make progress in the Cyprus negotiation\nregardless of the embargo. I think the negotiation is now mostly a matter\nof Greek and Turkish domestic politics. The range of the issues is\nreasonably clear. It is not clear whether either side can make the re-\nquired movement.\nCONFIDENTIAL\nCONFID ENTIAL\n3.\nThe Turks spent the first 20 minutes with the President talking\nabout the arms embargo. I know there is a difference of opinion about\nour strategy. But I assure you we had no other motive than to bring\nTurkish concessions. Even if the embargo is lifted, progress on Cyprus\nwould be tough. But if the embargo is lifted, they would know the Presi-\ndent's prestige is involved and they couldn't sit. There is still a gap,\nbut it is not unbridgeable. There are only two issues: the nature of the\ncentral government and the territorial division. There is also the issue\nof refugees. [He describes refugee issues. ] If they can break the logjam,\nthe issues aren't too difficult. But getting started is the problem. If\nGreece made a move and it was turned down by Turkey, it would be\ndisastrous for them. If Demirel moves in a way which looks weak, the\ncoalition will break up.\nBrent, will you discuss our installations.\nGeneral Scowcroft: [Described the bilateral installations.\n]\nFascell: If we move, won't we have Greek riots, etc. ?\nKissinger: The Greeks asked the President in Brussels to warn against\nmilitary action, especially in connection with the Aegean. We did so.\nWe are preparing military assistance to Greece but we shouldn't link them.\nFascell: But you think there would be no eruption?\nKissinger: Papandreou and Mavros would complain bitterly. But we are\nconvinced Karamanlis wants to get this behind him. If the embargo was\nlifted and there was no progress, there would be trouble.\nWhalen: Let's get right down to cases. We are concerned and want to do\nsomething. Our way is the Hamilton Amendment which passed the Senate\n41 - 40. Let's face it. You have won some victories which have made the\nfreshmen bitter. We need to resolve it in a way to try to avoid a bitter\nconfrontation. Maybe you have some ideas.\nThe President: What do you all think?\nBrademas: I want to thank you for inviting us, Mr. President. One idea\nI would like to put forth we have mentioned it earlier, but maybe we\ncould modify it some. This idea is to employ the waiver authority. We\nhave checked the legality with the GAO. We would want some private\nassurance that some action was forthcoming acceptable to both sides; then\nCONFIDENTIAL\nCONFIDENTIAL\n4.\nthe President could waive the $50 million without Turkey publicly having\nto say anything. To be sure that there is no reneging on the agreement,\nyou could assure them there would be another $50 million coming\nusing both FY 75 and 76 -- that is more than the grant we are now giving.\nIf you announced a reassessment of US-Turkish relations at the\nsame time, it would be a gentle reminder that we don't like ultimatums\nthrown at us. Another idea is to get NATO more involved to soften the\nUS-Turkish aspects of it. As you know, we here are NATO supporters.\nWe voted against NATO cuts. And I tell the Turks I want aid to Turkey.\nI have 450 voting Greeks. I don't need it politically.\nWe know there will be no settlement as good as the Greeks had\nbefore the crisis.\nPresident: We discussed the waiver policy before. The lawyers can\nargue whether the waiver is legal. I think the GAO argument is question-\nable and I as a lawyer think it is probably not right. Suppose I waive and\nwe either don't get a settlement or it isn't satisfactory. Then I am out on\na limb. I don't think that is a satisfactory situation. I talked with Demirel\nfor an hour. He pointed out that there are arms paid for that he can't get\nshipped and is even having to pay for storage. They just don't understand\nthis and the waiver won't answer it.\nBrademas: We are trying to find a way out. I agree, let's forget last\nAugust. But it is virtually impossible for Congress to turn around without\nsomething happening. We must save face and I think it is fundamentally\nwrong. Sure it causes you some problems. But we have the national\ninterest to consider. I am offended by the Turkish ultimatums. I disagree\nwith your waiver interpretation. I agree with Kissinger that the sides\naren't that far apart. If we could get them $50 million, get some move-\nment, another $50 million, more movement and we can end the whole thing\nin 8 - 12 weeks. In the face of the Turkish ultimatum, even if we tried to\njust lift the embargo, we would be hung in effigy.\nPresident: I have spoken with some of the leaders -- Tip, for example.\nKissinger has talked to Burton. You know the Democratic freshman better\nthan I. I have gotten to know some of them, including Hubbard he\nseems to want to help. It might be worth a try for Kissinger and me to\ntalk to them. I am not sure they understand the nature of the problem.\nWhalen: I understand what you both are saying. I see you out on a limb\nwhere you could have a problem. What if we applauded your use of the\nwaiver. That might help.\nCONFIDENTIAL\nBERALD\nCONFIDENTIAL\n5.\nSarbanes: I think a starting premise has to be an understanding of some\naccommodation by the Turks. If we can get that, we can orchestrate\nto save their face. I don't think we can approach the problem from the\nview of just getting the decision changed. I think it was correct. If we\njust change, we would be in the position of sustaining aggression. If\nwe know certain things will be done, there are arrangements which can\nbe made commercial sales, military sales, grants, etc.\nPresident: Let me follow up on that point. There are differences in\nthe kinds of military deliveries and they can be legally treated differently\n-- especially when they have bought and paid for things.\nLet me throw this out. Is there a possibility of exempting sales?\nSarbanes: There is a fundamental premise though, and that is that\nmovement by us without moves by them.\nKissinger: What bugs the Turks is not grant aid - that is within our\nsovereign rights. It is the sales, where they can't get things they have\nbought. So the waiver gets at what bothers them most.\nOn the negotiations, there isn't any minor movement on which we\ncould report. It will be done all together, or not at all. If the Turks\ndecide to move, it will be done in six weeks -- but I can't say when they\nwill decide to move.\nIf Ecevit were in office, we could get a settlement quickly.\nBrademas: That is not Clerides' view. He thinks turning the arms on\nlose us all our leverage. He thinks that sticking fast will put such a bite\non Turkish military that they will force a movement.\nThere is another group in the House which feels more strongly from\na different view -- Rangel.\nHamilton: I think there is a trend in the House that the ban should come off.\nMany who voted for the ban are looking for reasons to change and the trick\nis to come up with something to help them to change. Can't we explore\nsomething other than full restoral? One quirk of the law is that cutoffs\nare in perpetuity. Maybe we could put on a time limit. Maybe we could\npermit enough aid to let Turkey fulfill its NATO commitment. I don't\nthink right now you would get the votes to lift the ban.\nCONFIDENTIAL\nCONFIDENTIAL\n6.\nPresident: Have you got some language?\nHamilton: We have been working on some ideas.\nPresident: Why don't we have our people work with you. I can see the\nneed for a parliamentary maneuver to avoid a head-on collision. The\nsituation is bound to deteriorate otherwise -- and it is not only Cyprus.\nDemirel did mention the Aegean and the Greek buildup on the islands.\nThey are just off the Turkish coast. He didn't threaten, but it obviously\nis a concern. If this continues to unravel, with the Middle East situation\nnearby, we could have a holocaust. I can't sit here and do nothing.\nBrademas: But we can't just turn the arms back on without some actions\nby the Turks. That leaves us in an indefensible legal and moral situation.\nThat would put the aid bill in jeopardy if we turned any part of it on without\nany progress from Turkey. We would in that case have to modify our\nposition on the aid bill.\nPresident: We have to be realistic about the situation in Greece and\nTurkey. For either to take a public position would create an impossible\nsituation.\nBrademas: We agree. That is why we want to do it privately -- to let\nthem save face.\nSarbanes: I would like to broaden the discussion to the nature of U.S.\nforeign policy and providing arms and for what purpose. Aggression\nhas been committed and we can't back off that principle. People may\ndiffer on that principle, and the Secretary and I part company on it.\nBut just as we can divide categories of aid, we can divide categories\nof Turkish response.\nThe other concern is Greece. Kissinger seems to assume Greece\nwill always be there.\nKissinger: No.\nSarbanes: I don't think so and if we move without any justification, I think\nthere would be an explosion. I know it could even be involved with\nYugoslavia, with Tito's departure and a possible crisis involving Greece.\nSo I think we must move in a way which does not antagonize Greece.\nPresident: Can you differentiate between sales and grants?\nCONFIDENTIAL\nCONFIDENTIAL\n7.\nSarbanes: Yes, but I can't turn around on any part of it without anything\non which to rest it. Because of the critical nature of our relationship\nto Greece. We want to restore relations with both Greece and Turkey.\nI think Turkey has more than it needs. I think it is in Turkey's interests\nto resolve this.\nKissinger: I think most of them want a resolution -- maybe even Makarios.\nWe can't get Turkish progress by 15 July. We also can't get it if there is\na linkage with aid. But the President told Demirel that if the President\nsticks his neck out and they don't act, they are then up against the\nPresident also.\nBrademas: Then what?\nHamilton: There is another aid bill.\nBrademas: We have kept quiet. But it hasn't helped getting Turkish\nmovement when the Executive keeps making statements trying to get\nCongress to turn around.\nWhalen: The language is \"substantial progress. 11 I think there has been\nsome.\nKissinger: We can't in good conscience say there has been.\nWhalen: Would you rule out John's suggestion on the waiver?\nPresident: It is such a marginal question legally. It puts me out on a\nlimb. I am not saying you would cut it off, but let's be realistic.\nStatements by you on the floor would be helpful.\nTaking Lee's idea of making it affirmative action in support of\nNATO and sales versus grants, let's see what we can do.\nRosenthal: Findley has a proposal to give NATO $100 million and let\nthem do it. But the bases problems aren't NATO, but a bilateral problem.\nBrademas: Would this proposal.\nyou are discussing be something\ndifferent from a waiver?\nPresident: Right.\nBrademas: But the key part of a waiver was a private assurance from\nTurkey. If that would be included, I would look at it with an open mind.\nCONFIDENTIAL\nCONFIDENTIAL\n8.\nPresident: I haven't explored this with Caramanlis and Demirel.\nBrademas: I think that would be crucial.\nSarbanes: Could we keep a couple of tracks open -- the waiver for\nexample? We could also phase down what progress there is in line\nwith what kinds of arms are released. We have tended to look at all\nthis in total packages. Maybe we need to separate things out.\nWhalen: I have concerns of time. It will take time. Second, what would\nwe do about private assurances? If we start to debate on the floor\nSarbanes: There have been peripheral ones -- to Waldheim - - for\nexample. Straightening out some lines, maybe. Can we put together\nenough peripheral items to justify sales? Maybe. If we can work\ntogether\nCongress is helping Greece as against the Turks and the\nExecutive is helping Turkey as against Greece.\nPresident: I will reexamine the waiver, although I have grace reservations.\nIf you could look at Lee's ideas\nKissinger: I don't exclude that we could put something together like Paul\nsays. The best place to do it is at the Greek-Turkish talks at the end of\nJuly.\nRosenthal: We also can't appear to give in to Turkish threats. That would\nbe a sign to others like Portugal.\nSarbanes: Rather than crumble, maybe we should say we should reevaluate\nour policy.\nPresident: But if I use a waiver, doesn't that look like buckling?\nWhalen: That is right. We would have to help the President.\nRosenthal: We are all in this together. Let's explore it again.\nSarbanes: The other should be looked at, too. That puts us in the same\nboat.\nPresident: We have not only the deadline of the Karamanlis-Demirel talks.\nThere is also the August recess, the end of the fiscal year, etc. There are\nlots of deadlines.\nFOUD\nCONFIDENTIAL\nCONFIDENTIAL\n9.\nBrademas: If we would put this together I can't think of anything better\nfor the country right now.\nFascell: I want to table something here about delivering the material\nalready paid for. There is nothing more basic than the sanctity of a\ncontract. We have got to consider resolving that.\nCONFIDENTIAL\n1b\n)\nA\nFORD\n&\nGERALD\nW/t Commin 3\nOF STATE\nGin Engenthing Sconerift\nDepartment of State\nUNITED in STATES OF AMERICA\nTELEGRAM\nCONF IDENT IAL\nNOD670\nS\nPAGE 01 ANKARA 04487 0916542\n42\nACTION NODS-00\nINFO OCT-01 ISO-00 1001 W\n103224\nJOZ\n0 0915052 TUN 75\nFM AMEMBASSY ANKAKA\nTO SECSTATE WASHDC IMMEDIATE 9517\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, Sec. 3.5\nC N I +) E N I A L ANKARA 4487\nState Dept. Guidelines,\nState lui w 3/9/04\nBy We\nNARA, Date 5/20/04\nNODIS\nDEPARTMENT PASS ATHENS AND NICOSIA AS DESIRED\n5\nFOR THE SECRETARY FROM CHARGE\nE.O. 11652: XGDS-2\nTAGS: PINT, PrUR, TU, Cr. GR\nSUBJ: MEETING WITH FUNMIN CAGLAYANGIL\nREF: STATE 133607\n1. I MFT WITH FUNMIN CAGLAYANGIL LATE AFTERNOON JUNE 9 TO\nDELIVER YOUR MESSAGES(REFTEL). AIS DIRECTEUR DE CABINET AKBEL\nWAS ONLY OTHER PERSON PRESENT. AFTER HEARING YOUR\nMESSAGE, FONMIN PUNDERED A BIT AND THEN DICTATED A REPLY\nIN TURKISH 10 AKDEL who THEREUPON ORALLY TRANSLATED IT\nINTO ENGLISH FOR MF AT DICTATION SPEED.\n2. BEGIN UWAL NESSAGE:S\"I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE\nSECRETARY (IF STATE VERY MUCH, PARTICULARLY FOR nIS MESSAGE.\nOUR MEMORIES OF OUR MEETING IN GROSSELS WITH PRESIDENT\nFORD AND IME SECRETARY ARE ALSO VERY FRECIOUS. 1 WOULD LIKE\nS\nTO EXPRESS MY TEEP THANKS AND APPRECIATION UN BEHALF OF\nMY PRIME MINISTER AS WELLSAS MYSELF FUR THE PRESIDENT'S AND\nSECRETARY KISSINGER'S CONSTRUCTIVE ATTITUDE.\n\"THE DIALUGUE BETWEEN DEMIREL AND CARAMANLIS\nHAS, IN OUR VIEW AS \"ELL, UTTN LUNSTRUCTIVE AND EFFECTIVE.\nGERALD ? LIBRARY FORD\nIT HAS DEPENED EACH SILE'S UNDERSTANDING OF THE UTHER AND\nNOT TO BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE IAL AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY\nDIPARTMENT OF STATE\nDepartment of State\nUNITED\nAMERICA\nTELEGRAM\nSTATES\nOF\nCONF\nPAGE 02 ANKARA 04487 0916542\nPRACTICAL OUTCOMES HAVE ALSO EMERGED. IT WAS DECIDED\nTHAT APPRECIATION OF THIS PROGRESS SHOULD ot RECORDED AND\nEFFORTS SHOULD EE EXERTED TO REACH SOLUTIONS THROUGH MEETINGS\nAT MINISTERIAL LEVELS.\n502\n\"THE ISSUE OF TERRITORY SHOULD CONSTITUTE THAT PART\nOF THE QUESTION WHICH HAS TO BE DEALT WITH AT THE VERY\nFINAL STAGE. THE SOLUTION OF OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES, BESIDES\nTHAT of TERRITORY, THROUGH MUTUAL AGREEMENT, WOULD ENHANCE\nTHE PUSSIMILITIES OF REACHING AN AGREEMENT UN THE ISSUE Or\nTERRITURY. I InINK THAT OUR GREEK COLLEAGUES HAVE ALSO\nUNDERSTOOD AND ADOPTED THIS VIEW UF OURS.\n\"THERE ARE TWO SUBJECTS ON WHICH 1 HAVE TO SPEAK\nCLEARLY NUn. 1 HOPE YOU WILL UNDERSTAND ME. AS LONG AS\nTHE ARMS EMOARGO IS IN EFFECT, THERE 15 NOT REPEAT NO1 MUCH\nWE CAN 00 ON THE ISSUE OF TERRITORY. AN INAGE TO THE EFFECT\nFORD\nTHAT TURKEY HDS FINALLY GIVEN IN 10 THIS THREAT, OR THE\n?\nEXPLOITATION OF such A CLAIM, IN INTERNAL PULITICS, COULD\nIRREPARABLY DAMAGE TURKISH-AMERICAN RELATIONS.\nGERALO\nLIBRARY\n\"SECONOLY, UNLESS THERE IS AMELIORATION IN THE\nEMBARGO DECISION, THE PUSSIDILITIES TU PREVENT COUNTER ACTION\nWILL NOn REPEAT NOW SE EXHAUSTED. I HOPE THAT DEVELUPMENTS\nUN THIS SUBJECT WILL NCT BE CONSIDERED AS A SURPRISE. AS nE\nHAVE STATED To YOU EFORE, AE ARE DOING ALL WE CAN TO REMAIN\nMODERATE. END OF URAL MESSAGE.\n3. FONMIN ASKED IF I hAD ANY QUESTIONS ON FOREGOING. I\nASKED -1M TO CARAND A BIT ON THE \"OTHER IMPORTANT ISSUES\"\nHE MENTIONED IN HIS THIRD PARAGRAPH Or HIS ORAL MESSAGE.\nHE REPLIED THAT IF AGREEMENT COOLD DE HEALHED\nON THE PLACKS ur The FUTURE FEDERAL GUVERNMENT, THIS KOULD\nHE HELPFUL. At MENTIUNED IN THIS CONNECTION SUCH ANLILLARY\nISSUES as PROVISION FOR A UNIFIED ECONOMY FOR THE ISLAND,\nDIPLORATIC REPRESENTATION AUROAD, A SINGLE MENAL CODE, AND THE\nDEFENSE OF The FEDERAL STATE. UP 10 NUA, CONTINUED CAULAYANGIL,\nTHE GAEEKS SAY THEY HAVE NOT ACCEPTED THE PRINCIPLE OF A\nFEDERAL STATE. LAGLAYANGIL FELT THIS STILL SHOULD NUT PREVENT\nDISCUSSION AS TO nun AS\"PURELY HYPOTHETICAL\" FEDERAL STATE\nCOULD BE CREATED. THE GREEKS COULD RESERVE THEIR POSITION\nONF IDENTIAL\nNOT TO BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY\nOF STATE\nDepartment of State\nUNITED STATES OF AMERICA\nTELEGRAM\nCONFIDENTIAL\nPAGE n3. ANKARA 24467 0916542\nON THE PRINCIPLE WHILE SUCH A DISCUSSION WERE GOING FURWARD.\nCAGLAYANGIL CONCLUDED BY SAYING THAT ANY PROGRESS ON ISSUES\nSUCH AS THESE WOULD DE PACILITATING FACTORS ON THE\nPROBLEMS UF REFUGEES AND TERRITORY. IN PRESENT CIRCUM-\nSTANCES, AS SUON AS THE Two SIDES BEGIN TO DISCUSS THESE\nTWO LATTER ISSUES, THEY WERE IMMEDIATELY BLUCKED. THERE IS\nNO WAY TO MAKE PROGRESS IN THIS FASHION, ME DECLARED.\nBENGUS\nNOTE: NOT PASSED ATHENS AND NICOSIA BY OC/T.\nI\n0\nFORD LIBRARY & DERALO\nCONT IDL NTIAL\nNOT TO BE REPRODUCED WITHOUT THE AUTHORIZATION OF THE EXECUTIVE SECRETARY\n12\nmuch money Greenspe\nof\nform\nbefore from\n/\nCopy of March lither-\n1\n2\ncalline for sit\"\nP/Hamilton/ whater/Faxcell/\nRosenthal Sarbanes/K\n19 June 75\nP This int, is when were perp then\nwhen un spot eat work, ben. Some allyoust\nsince Ch There is glvin of have -\ne/D tarks hum garal net on, from the ny\nproy yet,\nSenst as/ K + D at BONTH\nand Grugh butthing both unlegh\nweres together to evelous They bad gend mt,\nSunat not elne hut food. Smothing\nruds to he due. But hopese und get but\ndrand the Rt hig jm\npto with one chic & customer sit mis\n2 so Rostoi dp P.\nK\nLet me exystion artum sit 10 & what\ndrawster it. Grt me at it in Fish whatner\nam wins about hyponed have\nI unt this in Fit, He schil a and\nQ wet Required printing if me endel\nworld ont Unitord mangered Neva\nunited a finish salution as incoming\nmarket on E charstic int. 9 then what\nof or A T which had Today sant\nthey had w fames adv may this but I hat\nw/ my T. Guder mging Chan & pmt fink\nspenific program to -Ashir C oit & present\ndisgority energlex int it making it mer\nby to Marhal They aM apeed they\nin was while hertings on didn't\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958 (as amended) SEC 3.3\nMR # 10-024, # #2\nstate use 3/9/04; CIA ets 4/1/10\nBy dal NARA, Date 5/5/10\nLIBRARY GERALD\nwhich he first antaire- of do words 3\nof Partice, that he worldomn.\nfamilie at meet apt, mt certainly unt\nenfore - crumit you thing A pursouse\nG sich has home why emergency- we\nMR herter positive the thing him curring &\nfebe.\nDennil Chricelle in, which\nDimmil couldn't accept C dent une and has\nwriting on, for dismotion Masms whe\nE chit in, I Chemmed are mm/dd how hower\n& munt At Cento - unt for Conto but\n& wh D The E cent ant Tnts contron\nTil condition dab, He took informs & em home\nuniversity amount me Victions\nemptim for priving it may. Bennil PIVI when\nT dh hit more in 67,\nThat your this w/ Dmril, Bist he browning for\nsmilling to Marrage it to hi dresn't\nget hentern to death\n(Reevlo lith from Demind)\nThis has fortunal by intil ugst that here\nNato have and he Ined Working. stise\nwm-Nato and am not envormed about\nThey on of injoyee important K us. we\ncalled in and on got a To dry which\nextension\nDenised white to h whis a them he strel\nupt- - us, or t set enalmyo lyar to for com\nAmr he got screwhing Luck Edmit hnd\ntrst. we\nWe eye T & make prevy in (ypen\nGERALD\n3\nway of of brokeryd. & think\nC injust on how mostly matter of Qrt\nThe cause of 0 issub\nis clean It ml alson written\nwith sick comminke c required havent\nThat sport - , et to min w/p talk\nabout - am entergo, R home then a\nchip f per about ones thatisy. But 2\nassure you un have we when Burtine Them\nto thing E me if\nhigh jung on lyping world he lmgs\nBe if though high thing world Sum\npresting minhed x they sit. Than\nis And a jop, bmA not\nThere one my 2 string nature & Untimed\ngood I thirtment chinging. also are\nof (Desomites reference\nyours). &g They in arre have C\nbuyjam, C crissing arount RJ dig But getter\nstreeted is prov. & 60 unable Q hear &\nit was and donen by T, it and he dowth\nIn am of D. work ina may which Carbs\nweek, Fruit C condition am brating\nBranth will you do inso one installation\nSc\n(Desinted hereby to installation)\nMa\nFood of In mary won't are have Gnk with, at\nK\nThe G arthod c P in Bursels & with\nQ e yourst mail actions, esp in\nw/ argeen. use child ID. up I who\nTREATMENT GERALD Crito\n4\npuppaing unit assis to G has we em\nwith Jun.\nF & But you think world to WA verytin\nK\nMams world crouplain betting\nBut we counind Kance weeks ants & get\nthis hind him. 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Tohe shere no\nrencying and givennent, you cauld\nsome there and he and/or 50 mil\nwring - rising birth so Fy 15+76-\nthat more them guest and now gering\nLIBRETT BERALD FORD\n5\nIf your anmunt of US -T\nwatnes it terms tries, in world he ymith\ninmunity an dnt his internation throm\nat hs. another information is & get NOT nike\nmothed X softher us aspects of it.\nBron, are here am N to information\nwe fortil against Nato ents. & tell LID\nwont and IT I has 450 wtig\nG. I dun't and it printically\nCV know thin mill he m septement as\nyour Is C F had hepez < cris.\nP\nWe humand worm puty hopes. amyrs\ncm angree whether cream is legal. I think\n& Ao argument is questimes or larger think\nit per not right. Smpport CA & waive & and\nwith dritget a setternent ant isn't satis Then\ndan art on or limb. Idn't this that satis\nint. w/ Divint for on have He\nposstitant There one and paid for he count\nget stripgerd f is were hing to you strage. 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Freithen totaln pub poitric world\nwrite it.\nB\nwe agen, that why and wont to do in printaly\nto ht them fm face-\nSm. I I mink tipe to handen the discrision -w-\nUNITED GERALD TORD\n2\nu the of US FP t providing onms X for\nwhat purpose aggension brown until\nf who cant pringh. Purch\nmany differ on that primaple, hand and\nSre & & part energency on it But just as\n- can drink amhgosise of and am cer dirth\ncatigois of Traporia\nO then Channa is G. K sehools A drame G\nwill along due there\nK\nNo\n5\nI ent think 10 & if are Through w/o any justif.,\n& think There and I he on explision, them\nit here involved w/ TNTO lyntms I\npossable ensis in orting G. Sr I think and most\nMRS in any which dresmt antagoring G\nP Can your differ. but Intro + grent\nS Yes, hut I can't Tum and on any partifiest\nw/o anything on which t next A. Become of\nL ent. hotse form Matrishing & C, We cont\nto rytra watches or/ think G+T, J has\nwor then it web. 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